Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Namaste Happy Birthday. May Lord Shiva and Divine Mother hold you in Their laps for all Eternity. And, may you be fully aware of Their loving embrace now, this moment, and forever. Thanks for sharing that great story. It is Truth to me. The story is told so well, so clearly from the heart. It really comforts me to read those words. So glad that Maa and Swami touched your heart. Look forward to reading more wisdom. Happy Birthday. Jai Maa Jai Swami vishweshwar , "way131" <wendy131 wrote: > > Namaste -- > > In honor of today being my birthday (yes, the 131 in my email address > is nothing more profound than my birth date!), I decided to post my > first email to the group -- I have been reading these posts since the > first week of January, after I visited the Devi Mandir with my Gita > class. It was an extraordinary visit for me and I am STILL walking > around with the afterglow (which I no longer consider an afterglow > but rather, who I am now!) > > Like most of us, I, too, have experienced a lot of suffering -- both > physical and emotional -- and I have found that, true to the laws of > Yin/Yang, however deep I have gone into my suffering, I have always > been able to rise that high in my capacity to experience love. In > fact, it is that very love which often pulls me out of the suffering. > Perhaps they serve as a balance of some sort, each one giving us the > strength to live life to the fullest. > > Today's passage in Swami Satchidananda's book "The Golden Present" > had the following story, which sheds some more light on suffering: > > "When Tirunavukarasar, one of the well-known Saiva saints, was > suffering from a stomachache, he said, "Lord, I know You gave me this > stomachache. I don't know what l did to deserve it. Certainly I did > something; but I don't remember what it is. Maybe it was even in a > previous birth. But one thing I do know: You want me to trust You > completely. Probably this is the only way You can make me do that. > You are very kind to make me think of You. If You didn't love me, why > would You even bother to give me this problem? You wouldn't even be > thinking of me. The very fact that You thought of me makes me happy; > because this has made me remember to think of you. When I experience > pleasure, I may forget You; but when I experience pain, I can never > forget You. > > I am not asking You to get rid of it right away. Please just give me > strength and continue to give me this problem until I completely > purge out my karma. I know You are merciful. You want to bring out > the beauty, the pure part of me, so You are simply rubbing and > scrubbing me. It hurts sometimes, but I know that You would not > unnecessarily hurt me. If there were another more simple way, You > would certainly have done it that way. Probably my problem is too > tough. So go ahead; do what You must. All I request is that You give > me the strength and the understanding to accept it." > > Thank you all for your wonderful writing on this site. I am enjoying > it every day and look forward to remaining part of it. > > Jai Maa > > Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti > wendy > > > , "c_morningsong" <shaktimaa@> > wrote: > > > > Namaste' > > > > I am by no means an authority on this subject but would like to > offer > > my thoughts on the topic of suffering. Like so many of you I've > also > > thought about suffering, particularly in my role as an addiction > > counselor. I see so many people doing the same behaviors over and > > over again, knowing they are suffereing, yet unable to break those > > old patterns. In thinking about the question of why we suffer for > > the past many years, I began with Buddha's first Noble Truth - > > Suffering Exists. From that it doesn't even sound like something > to > > question, it simply is, like oxygen, or carbon, or wind currents. > > > > But living in bodies we experience this suffering first hand. And > > when we are in the middle of it we find it very difficult to think > of > > anything but "how do I get out of this fiery hell". At that moment > > our suffering becomes a gift. At this point we may find that there > > is nothing left for us but to surrender, bring our forehead to the > > floor and ask Maa to take over. > > > > Our suffering exists because of our thoughts. We know that we have > a > > choice regarding how we will respond to any given situation, and > > given that choice we can chant the Chandi, and remind ourselves > that > > every time we remember our Divine Mother in times of distress She > > will appear for us without a doubt, and relieve us of our suffering. > > > > So given all of this, I have come to believe that our suffering is > > Maa calling us to Wake Up! and to know that we are not alone and > that > > She is here with us in every moment. She is our choice to have a > > different experience. Suffering is a belief in separation, and > > therefore has no truth. I know that all of this is easier said > then > > done, so we just keep practicing and looking to our gurus and our > > satsang to remind us of who we really are. > > > > Chandi Maa ki JAI > > > > OM Shanti > > Morningsong > > > > > > , "mahadevanv" <mahadevanv@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Om Namah Shivaya! > > > > > > Everyone feels pain at one stage or the other. And the pain > > > gives us hint to where we have to grow and it urges us to wake > up. > > > You can surrender this pain to the Holy Mother (who is always > there > > > inside you) and She will guide you. At the sametime, you can feel > > > your pain to the full. Ask yourself what choice you like to make > at > > > this stage. You will get guidance from within. Without putting > > > pressure on you, you follow that guidance. You will find way. > Also > > > know that pain in life is temporary. Day follows night and spring > > > follows winter. > > > > > > The good thing you are able to do is you have expressed > you > > > are feeling pain and that also at the right place. > > > > > > I have got my own share of pain as became both a widower > and > > a > > > divorcee. But I am seeing the God's message in the turn of events. > > > > > > Our Holy Mother minimises the effects of Karma also. I may > > be > > > able to give more help if you can send me personal email. > > > > > > Cheers and Enjoy your life, > > > > > > Mahadevan Venkitaraman > > > > > > > > > , "quickfoxjumped" > > > <quickfoxjumped@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Why am I suffering so much in this life? How can I feel > > better...Is > > > > this my Karma? > > > > Sorry to be a bother anybody. But, I do not know where to turn. > > > > Hari OM > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Thanks, Vish, for the heartfelt greeting. I love reading your posts. Just like my visit last month, you continue to teach me so much. love, and blessings, to you w , "inspectionconnection108" <inspectionconnection108 wrote: > > Namaste > > Happy Birthday. May Lord Shiva and Divine Mother hold you in Their > laps for all Eternity. And, may you be fully aware of Their loving > embrace now, this moment, and forever. > > Thanks for sharing that great story. It is Truth to me. The story is > told so well, so clearly from the heart. It really comforts me to > read those words. > So glad that Maa and Swami touched your heart. Look forward to reading > more wisdom. > > Happy Birthday. > > Jai Maa Jai Swami > > vishweshwar > > > > > > > , "way131" <wendy131@> wrote: > > > > Namaste -- > > > > In honor of today being my birthday (yes, the 131 in my email address > > is nothing more profound than my birth date!), I decided to post my > > first email to the group -- I have been reading these posts since the > > first week of January, after I visited the Devi Mandir with my Gita > > class. It was an extraordinary visit for me and I am STILL walking > > around with the afterglow (which I no longer consider an afterglow > > but rather, who I am now!) > > > > Like most of us, I, too, have experienced a lot of suffering -- both > > physical and emotional -- and I have found that, true to the laws of > > Yin/Yang, however deep I have gone into my suffering, I have always > > been able to rise that high in my capacity to experience love. In > > fact, it is that very love which often pulls me out of the suffering. > > Perhaps they serve as a balance of some sort, each one giving us the > > strength to live life to the fullest. > > > > Today's passage in Swami Satchidananda's book "The Golden Present" > > had the following story, which sheds some more light on suffering: > > > > "When Tirunavukarasar, one of the well-known Saiva saints, was > > suffering from a stomachache, he said, "Lord, I know You gave me this > > stomachache. I don't know what l did to deserve it. Certainly I did > > something; but I don't remember what it is. Maybe it was even in a > > previous birth. But one thing I do know: You want me to trust You > > completely. Probably this is the only way You can make me do that. > > You are very kind to make me think of You. If You didn't love me, why > > would You even bother to give me this problem? You wouldn't even be > > thinking of me. The very fact that You thought of me makes me happy; > > because this has made me remember to think of you. When I experience > > pleasure, I may forget You; but when I experience pain, I can never > > forget You. > > > > I am not asking You to get rid of it right away. Please just give me > > strength and continue to give me this problem until I completely > > purge out my karma. I know You are merciful. You want to bring out > > the beauty, the pure part of me, so You are simply rubbing and > > scrubbing me. It hurts sometimes, but I know that You would not > > unnecessarily hurt me. If there were another more simple way, You > > would certainly have done it that way. Probably my problem is too > > tough. So go ahead; do what You must. All I request is that You give > > me the strength and the understanding to accept it." > > > > Thank you all for your wonderful writing on this site. I am enjoying > > it every day and look forward to remaining part of it. > > > > Jai Maa > > > > Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti > > wendy > > > > > > , "c_morningsong" <shaktimaa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Namaste' > > > > > > I am by no means an authority on this subject but would like to > > offer > > > my thoughts on the topic of suffering. Like so many of you I've > > also > > > thought about suffering, particularly in my role as an addiction > > > counselor. I see so many people doing the same behaviors over and > > > over again, knowing they are suffereing, yet unable to break those > > > old patterns. In thinking about the question of why we suffer for > > > the past many years, I began with Buddha's first Noble Truth - > > > Suffering Exists. From that it doesn't even sound like something > > to > > > question, it simply is, like oxygen, or carbon, or wind currents. > > > > > > But living in bodies we experience this suffering first hand. And > > > when we are in the middle of it we find it very difficult to think > > of > > > anything but "how do I get out of this fiery hell". At that moment > > > our suffering becomes a gift. At this point we may find that there > > > is nothing left for us but to surrender, bring our forehead to the > > > floor and ask Maa to take over. > > > > > > Our suffering exists because of our thoughts. We know that we have > > a > > > choice regarding how we will respond to any given situation, and > > > given that choice we can chant the Chandi, and remind ourselves > > that > > > every time we remember our Divine Mother in times of distress She > > > will appear for us without a doubt, and relieve us of our suffering. > > > > > > So given all of this, I have come to believe that our suffering is > > > Maa calling us to Wake Up! and to know that we are not alone and > > that > > > She is here with us in every moment. She is our choice to have a > > > different experience. Suffering is a belief in separation, and > > > therefore has no truth. I know that all of this is easier said > > then > > > done, so we just keep practicing and looking to our gurus and our > > > satsang to remind us of who we really are. > > > > > > Chandi Maa ki JAI > > > > > > OM Shanti > > > Morningsong > > > > > > > > > , "mahadevanv" <mahadevanv@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Om Namah Shivaya! > > > > > > > > Everyone feels pain at one stage or the other. And the pain > > > > gives us hint to where we have to grow and it urges us to wake > > up. > > > > You can surrender this pain to the Holy Mother (who is always > > there > > > > inside you) and She will guide you. At the sametime, you can feel > > > > your pain to the full. Ask yourself what choice you like to make > > at > > > > this stage. You will get guidance from within. Without putting > > > > pressure on you, you follow that guidance. You will find way. > > Also > > > > know that pain in life is temporary. Day follows night and spring > > > > follows winter. > > > > > > > > The good thing you are able to do is you have expressed > > you > > > > are feeling pain and that also at the right place. > > > > > > > > I have got my own share of pain as became both a widower > > and > > > a > > > > divorcee. But I am seeing the God's message in the turn of events. > > > > > > > > Our Holy Mother minimises the effects of Karma also. I may > > > be > > > > able to give more help if you can send me personal email. > > > > > > > > Cheers and Enjoy your life, > > > > > > > > Mahadevan Venkitaraman > > > > > > > > > > > > , "quickfoxjumped" > > > > <quickfoxjumped@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Why am I suffering so much in this life? How can I feel > > > better...Is > > > > > this my Karma? > > > > > Sorry to be a bother anybody. But, I do not know where to turn. > > > > > Hari OM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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