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Namaste to Her Devotees

 

Most say Yantras should be drawn in 24 ct gold or in ordinary gold.

Is it worthless if the same yantram is drawn in silver, copper or wood?

will it be like humiliating the Goddesses in it?

or will it not have any power...

please somebody give a correct answer.

 

If the Yantra is not drawn in the prescribed material, wont it work?

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I have been worshipping the srichakra drawn on copper for the last four

years.I had only benefits and many tragic issues became healed. If the

Yantra is in gold, well. If it is drawn in copper or silver there is

absolutely no problem .This is from my personal experience. The divine

mother consider your devotion and dedication, never the material.

 

 

, "Haridev.S.V" <haridevcusat

wrote:

>

> Namaste to Her Devotees

>

> Most say Yantras should be drawn in 24 ct gold or in ordinary gold.

> Is it worthless if the same yantram is drawn in silver, copper or

wood?

> will it be like humiliating the Goddesses in it?

> or will it not have any power...

> please somebody give a correct answer.

>

> If the Yantra is not drawn in the prescribed material, wont it work?

>

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>From my understanding, the materials on which an Yantra (specifically

Sri Chakra) is drawn have different lifetimes (which may be seen as a

gradation in the "ability" of the material to sustain the spiritual

power).

 

Typically, yantras are drawnn (or cast) on copper, silver and gold.

Of course there are specific and enhanced applications with yantras

drawn on leaves of trees and also on crystal (spatika)...for certain

purposes.

 

Sri Chakra, drawn on above metals (or die-cast) have following

spiritual lifetimes - after a proper "pradhishtai"

Copper = 12 years

Silver = 22 years

Gold = permanent

 

Sri yantra is also made with panchaloka alloy, as the alloy

incorporates all the above metals.

 

As mentioned by Harishankar below, material has no meaning if there

is no devotion from the person performing the puja. In other words,

the only thing that matters is if SHE arrives to take the offerings

or not. No one can force HER to arrive.

 

As to your request "to provide 'A' correct answer," many and all the

answers may be "correct." But, what may be appear correct to one may

not be correct to another - depending on what one wants to hear.

 

If I remember "correctly," you previously asked why one should chant

Sri Vidya mantras if there are no wants. If the purpose is to resolve

the troubles, then all the "Correct Answers" have been provided by

several members here. In those discussions, there was a long and

specific pointing towards the need for a guru (from kartik and

Mahahrudanath).

 

>From my experiences, both here on this group and in life, whenever

someone is told to visit a "guru" or a person of that stature, it

means the person in question needs guidance to nudge them (or get

their rear-ends kicked) towards the right path. Unfortunately, I have

seen those persons not realizing the meaning of esoteric advise from

many sources, moving away from the path, get frustrated and end up

somewhere not desirable. All of them were looking for "The Correct

Answer." The answer which they want to hear.

 

I, personally posted a message here, regarding how to obtain the

desired food. Meaning that you can sponsor for/participate in homams

etc, thereby imparting more spiritual good in self. It would help in

seeing the "path" clearly as alluded to, by Sitam_Subba in the final

reply to your previous query.

 

To be even more clear, if you had read Kartik's post on "parivara" of

Devi, including dustadevathas present in HER parivara, and if ever

wondered how to discern between them and the Maharajni (HER), only

purva punya can help (again paraphrasing Kartik). Participating in

homams and other rituals will help in this aspect. I'm not saying

that such actions will make you a Sri Vidya upasak overnight (unless

SHE wishes you to be), but will provide clearer answers to your needs

rather than wants.

 

G

 

, "bsharishankar"

<bsharishankar wrote:

>

> I have been worshipping the srichakra drawn on copper for the last

four years.I had only benefits and many tragic issues became healed.

If the Yantra is in gold, well. If it is drawn in copper or silver

there is absolutely no problem .This is from my personal experience.

The divine mother consider your devotion and dedication, never the

material.

>

>

> , "Haridev.S.V"

<haridevcusat@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste to Her Devotees

> >

> > Most say Yantras should be drawn in 24 ct gold or in ordinary

gold. Is it worthless if the same yantram is drawn in silver, copper

or wood? will it be like humiliating the Goddesses in it? or will it

not have any power...

> > please somebody give a correct answer.

> >

> > If the Yantra is not drawn in the prescribed material, wont it

work?

> >

>

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Namaste,

 

Many thanks to Ganpra for the gladdening response to this issue. I personally have always been in a personal dilema about which pAtra I should make my yantras in. Unfortunately my master did not allow me the liberty to buy ready made yantras and early on told me that it is best that the practitioner make his/her own. I could not bear to make screw-ups on valuable mediums so most of the time I would stick with copper and later silver.

 

If the yantra was of decent standing then I'd have it gold plated.

 

In my lifetime I've probably ever only worshipped 5 yantras thoroughly with all forms of purushcharana. Now I have only three of them remaining with me. And without making any serious generalizations I'd have to say that pAtra depends on not only the yantra, but also the type and aims of the sadhana.

 

Above all, I think the medium is an ancillary consideration, what should matter is the time and energy one intends to invest in the prana pratistha and puja of the yantra. Some people suggest that [in the process of awakening the Meru/ Shri Chakra] the amount of puruscharana to Ratneshwari and Amriteshwara [Mrityunjaya] depends on the dhAtu itself.

So the initial rites of extolling Devi into the Meru/Shri Yantra and the amount of effort you want to put it should be the first consideration. It would be imprudent of someone to waste hundreds of dollars on a yantra when all they want to do is a 30 minute worship to invoke it.

 

Above all many tantras suggest the internalization of the Shri yantra to supercede all physical modes of worship. One who can do avarana and worship within need not worry about pAtra of worship.

 

Visualization of Shri yantra is particularly difficult and if you look at krama carefully you will realize that the yantras of say for instance Bala and Varahi graduate in complexity from one another. Thus you train the mind to extol devi within, which is far more important than worrying about pAtra.

 

Jaya Jaya Tripura!

 

 

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Kartik,

 

No need to thank me, I am just a vessel which delivered water to a

thirsty soul. It is apt to thank the river (HER). No, I am not a

jerk, in not acknowledging your kind words. SHE gave me the ability

to think, speak, read and write and thus gave you an answer to your

unasked question. It is HER doing and hence the bouquet belongs to

HER.

 

G

, kartik gaurav <omkaaraya

wrote:

>

>

>

> Namaste,

>

> Many thanks to Ganpra for the gladdening response to this issue.

I personally have always been in a personal dilema about which pAtra

I should make my yantras in. Unfortunately my master did not allow me

the liberty to buy ready made yantras and early on told me that it is

best that the practitioner make his/her own. I could not bear to make

screw-ups on valuable mediums so most of the time I would stick with

copper and later silver.

>

> If the yantra was of decent standing then I'd have it gold plated.

>

> In my lifetime I've probably ever only worshipped 5 yantras

thoroughly with all forms of purushcharana. Now I have only three of

them remaining with me. And without making any serious

generalizations I'd have to say that pAtra depends on not only the

yantra, but also the type and aims of the sadhana.

>

> Above all, I think the medium is an ancillary consideration, what

should matter is the time and energy one intends to invest in the

prana pratistha and puja of the yantra. Some people suggest that [in

the process of awakening the Meru/ Shri Chakra] the amount of

puruscharana to Ratneshwari and Amriteshwara [Mrityunjaya] depends on

the dhAtu itself.

> So the initial rites of extolling Devi into the Meru/Shri Yantra

and the amount of effort you want to put it should be the first

consideration. It would be imprudent of someone to waste hundreds of

dollars on a yantra when all they want to do is a 30 minute worship

to invoke it.

>

> Above all many tantras suggest the internalization of the Shri

yantra to supercede all physical modes of worship. One who can do

avarana and worship within need not worry about pAtra of worship.

>

> Visualization of Shri yantra is particularly difficult and if you

look at krama carefully you will realize that the yantras of say for

instance Bala and Varahi graduate in complexity from one another.

Thus you train the mind to extol devi within, which is far more

important than worrying about pAtra.

>

> Jaya Jaya Tripura!

>

>

> Send instant messages to your online friends

http://au.messenger.

>

>

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Dear Divine,

It will be quite interesting to know that the crystal sriyantra 11 x 11 cms x 10 mm and also the Maha Meru 3" sizes inside crystal pyramid, which were are sansctified, prana pratishta done as per mentra sastras - Parasuramakalpa sutra - which has a life of "yavat Jeevam" were installed in the Yaga sala of the Athi Rudra Maha Yagna done under the direct presence of Bhagwan Sri Sathya Sai Baba Varu which concluded in Chennai yesterday with Maha Poornahuthi.

Those who attended the Yagna would have personally felt the surge of the Divine Energy which was of high intensity soothing, brought down tears in every one's eyes, because the energy of the Divine brought bliss to each and every one.

The specialty of the Crystal Sriyantra is that its divine energy remains for e ver and does not need prana-pratishta time and again.There has been huge demand for this yantra and maha meru from all over the world.

Perhaps for the first time in the world, Sriyantra and Maha Meru were also installed in the Athi Rudra Havan Yaga salai along with the Linga and done abishekam, archanam, tharpanam, marjanam, homam and thousands of devotees fed with very nice food. This signifies the fact that Bhagwan Baba had implied that Rudra exists with His consort everywhere in the form of subtle divine energy and blesses everyone.

 

Regards,

SATHYANANDHANATHAR

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Dear Haridev

I am entering this a little belatedly. Kartik and Ganpra had taken great pains to explain the material on which it is proper to draw (cast) a yantra. Being learned and accomplished in the art of Upasana that they are, I really cannot add anything; but I would like to share my personal experience.

 

I had drawn Sri Chakras on plain papers for my worship and I had derived the same level of mental peace that one gets while worshiping the Chakra drawn on superior media. Of course, being the slave I am to Devi, I have nothing special to ask of her. Being endowed with an imbecilic mind and slow wit, I am quite incapable of understanding the nuances of the right way of asking Devi for anything. You see, the difficulty is one should first know what one wants; then only can one make the application.

 

So, the best thing is to leave all this to Devi's care, follow your Guru's words and simply let go.

 

Om Namastripurasundari

 

"Haridev.S.V" <haridevcusat (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Namaste to Her Devotees

 

Most say Yantras should be drawn in 24 ct gold or in ordinary gold.

Is it worthless if the same yantram is drawn in silver, copper or wood?

will it be like humiliating the Goddesses in it?

or will it not have any power...

please somebody give a correct answer.

 

If the Yantra is not drawn in the prescribed material, wont it work?

 

 

 

 

 

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The sun is the womb of form because it is the source of it. Therefore revel

in the light for it is woman. The moon is man for it is divided into night

and day and therefore rules dualistically. Thus one rides the duality from

unity.

 

More specifically maybe consider some aspects of traditional Hindu Shakta

tantras maybe such as the Chinnamasta, Vajrayogini, Mahakali,

Lakshmi/Narayana, Sri, and such cults and chose one and stick with it.

That's it!

 

 

[]

On Behalf Of Tyra Hargrow

Wednesday, January 31, 2007 11:53 AM

 

Newbie looking for direction

 

Peace to you all!

 

I am Tyra, new to Shaktism. A few years ago I began my journey back

to remembering the Great Mother. Recently, I have come to accept that

I am truly a Goddess worshipper. I seek to find out how one starts a

practice on this path. I am seeking to have a daily practice that

will assist me with moving more into Alignment with the Energy of the

Great Goddess. Will someone advise me on this?

 

Thank you in Advance.

 

Peace, Love and Namaste

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But sir in some cases the material prescribed is compulsory. Most are

in gold, but strange materials are also there like plant extracts,

water, some strange leaf, sandalwood, and even bhasma, kumkum,

turmeric etc strictly prescribed for some purpose. Is there any defect

in drawing in copper instead of gold? Devotion itself becomes futile

when i have doubt whether the Goddess will be happy with my Upasana, I

cant simply dedicate with doubts in my mind. To be exactly sure about

my devotion, i should have the corect material for that upasana.

otherwise i chant in suspicion, will the Goddess accept or reject my

efforts!

========================================

 

 

, "bsharishankar"

<bsharishankar wrote:

>

> I have been worshipping the srichakra drawn on copper for the last four

> years.I had only benefits and many tragic issues became healed. If the

> Yantra is in gold, well. If it is drawn in copper or silver there is

> absolutely no problem .This is from my personal experience. The divine

> mother consider your devotion and dedication, never the material.

>

>

> , "Haridev.S.V" <haridevcusat@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste to Her Devotees

> >

> > Most say Yantras should be drawn in 24 ct gold or in ordinary gold.

> > Is it worthless if the same yantram is drawn in silver, copper or

> wood?

> > will it be like humiliating the Goddesses in it?

> > or will it not have any power...

> > please somebody give a correct answer.

> >

> > If the Yantra is not drawn in the prescribed material, wont it work?

> >

>

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Thanks to You, Lord Sai Baba signified the Siva-Sakthi union, Sree

Yantra..Great news for me. Can you give me more information on what He

says about the Mother Goddess please.

 

, sangar narayanan

<mackro1932 wrote:

>

> Dear Divine,

> It will be quite interesting to know that the crystal sriyantra 11 x

11 cms x 10 mm and also the Maha Meru 3" sizes inside crystal pyramid,

which were are sansctified, prana pratishta done as per mentra sastras

- Parasuramakalpa sutra - which has a life of "yavat Jeevam" were

installed in the Yaga sala of the Athi Rudra Maha Yagna done under the

direct presence of Bhagwan Sri Sathya Sai Baba Varu which concluded in

Chennai yesterday with Maha Poornahuthi.

> Those who attended the Yagna would have personally felt the surge of

the Divine Energy which was of high intensity soothing, brought down

tears in every one's eyes, because the energy of the Divine brought

bliss to each and every one.

> The specialty of the Crystal Sriyantra is that its divine energy

remains for e ver and does not need prana-pratishta time and

again.There has been huge demand for this yantra and maha meru from

all over the world.

> Perhaps for the first time in the world, Sriyantra and Maha Meru

were also installed in the Athi Rudra Havan Yaga salai along with the

Linga and done abishekam, archanam, tharpanam, marjanam, homam and

thousands of devotees fed with very nice food. This signifies the

fact that Bhagwan Baba had implied that Rudra exists with His consort

everywhere in the form of subtle divine energy and blesses everyone.

>

> Regards,

> SATHYANANDHANATHAR

>

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, "Haridev.S.V"

<haridevcusat wrote:

>

> Helo sir, I have heard some brahmins say that Paper Yantras are

futile.

> I dont have a Diksha Guru. I consider Holy Mother Amritanandamayi

as

> my Guru. She embraced me calling " ammede kuttu...ammede kuttu"

> (meaning mother's favourite child) when I went to see her in a

public

> Darshan. I had read her Biography and I believe that She is

> one(unified) with the Goddess. Her addressing was so inspirational

> that I felt the Goddess really likes me. I want to fulfil my life's

> wish and it is out of my reach. only Goddess can help.

>

> May Her Majesty bless you.

 

 

 

Question : "Aren't we all Mother's favourite child, or want to

believe that we are HER favourite child"? So you need Amma words to

convince you? I thought she say that to almost everybody. I know one

young man in KL here who went to see her says the same

thing : "ammede kuttu...ammede kuttu"

 

I dont know. I remember attend some Goddess seminar looooooooong

time ago before I came to Shakti Sadhana. A new age thingy. I

decided to join because im just curious. The main lady : I think

many there considered her as the "Guru" goes around hugging us [ all

the participant] and whisper in our ears : I love you. I dont know,

maybe some kind of initiation. My respond then when she whisper in

my ears is : I love you too.

 

Maybe we are feeling so insecure with outselves that we need such

utterance to remind us?

 

Then perhaps you should go back to Holy Mother Amritanandamayi and

ask her. So I'm just amazed that many times disciples of

Amritanandamayi comes here and ask such things.I'm being told,

whatever that is you always go back to your guru and get proper

instruction. Unless of course if she says she dosent know and refer

you or give you permission to seek from another. Maybe different

tradition have different ways of doing things. I dont know.

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Ammachi is Mahakali, she supports all just look in your heart where she is

and feel her. But then so ia Nora, Myself, and you, and all of this. It is

so it is so.

 

 

 

[]

On Behalf Of NMadasamy

Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:02 AM

 

Re: Material for Yantram

 

, "Haridev.S.V"

<haridevcusat wrote:

>

> Helo sir, I have heard some brahmins say that Paper Yantras are

futile.

> I dont have a Diksha Guru. I consider Holy Mother Amritanandamayi

as

> my Guru. She embraced me calling " ammede kuttu...ammede kuttu"

> (meaning mother's favourite child) when I went to see her in a

public

> Darshan. I had read her Biography and I believe that She is

> one(unified) with the Goddess. Her addressing was so inspirational

> that I felt the Goddess really likes me. I want to fulfil my life's

> wish and it is out of my reach. only Goddess can help.

>

> May Her Majesty bless you.

 

 

 

Question : "Aren't we all Mother's favourite child, or want to

believe that we are HER favourite child"? So you need Amma words to

convince you? I thought she say that to almost everybody. I know one

young man in KL here who went to see her says the same

thing : "ammede kuttu...ammede kuttu"

 

I dont know. I remember attend some Goddess seminar looooooooong

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I know of a person who received a bashyam of some stotras about HER in

the form of a book. He never read the bashyam for a few months. One

day, he was bored and started to read the bashyam like any other novel.

While starting to read the meaning of the Dhyana slokam, he felt

something odd....a presence within himself.

 

Took him a minute to realize what it was (or rather who it was)....his

thoughts were, "Oh sh*t! As if my life is not complicated enough....now

this!!"

 

He had no knowledgeable sources to whom he can approach as he was

living in a place far away from any Hindu community, let alone shaktas.

So he took the only option available. Started chanting the slokas after

taking a shower, in the morning. His attitude was, "YOU want me to

chant your names, then YOU guide me." His way of total surrender. SHE

was amused by his child like behaviour - "you want me to eat, then you

have to tell me a story."

 

No, he did not dive into Sri Vidya mantras....but just some

slokas/stotras. He knows he must learn to crawl before learning to walk

and then run the marathon.

 

Eventually, he found this group, guided by HER - and is still here,

somewhere.

 

 

, "NMadasamy" <nmadasamy

wrote:

 

> Then perhaps you should go back to Holy Mother Amritanandamayi and

> ask her. So I'm just amazed that many times disciples of

> Amritanandamayi comes here and ask such things.I'm being told,

> whatever that is you always go back to your guru and get proper

> instruction. Unless of course if she says she dosent know and refer

> you or give you permission to seek from another. Maybe different

> tradition have different ways of doing things. I dont know.

>

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Thanks :)

 

 

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On Behalf Of Tyra Hargrow

Friday, February 02, 2007 2:46 PM

 

RE: Newbie looking for direction

 

I appreciate you!

Peace and Namaste

Tyra

 

llundrub <llundrub (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote:

The sun is the womb of form because it is the source of it.

Therefore revel

in the light for it is woman. The moon is man for it is divided into night

and day and therefore rules dualistically. Thus one rides the duality from

unity.

 

More specifically maybe consider some aspects of traditional Hindu Shakta

tantras maybe such as the Chinnamasta, Vajrayogini, Mahakali,

Lakshmi/Narayana, Sri, and such cults and chose one and stick with it.

That's it!

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