Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Namaste to Her Devotees Most say Yantras should be drawn in 24 ct gold or in ordinary gold. Is it worthless if the same yantram is drawn in silver, copper or wood? will it be like humiliating the Goddesses in it? or will it not have any power... please somebody give a correct answer. If the Yantra is not drawn in the prescribed material, wont it work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 I have been worshipping the srichakra drawn on copper for the last four years.I had only benefits and many tragic issues became healed. If the Yantra is in gold, well. If it is drawn in copper or silver there is absolutely no problem .This is from my personal experience. The divine mother consider your devotion and dedication, never the material. , "Haridev.S.V" <haridevcusat wrote: > > Namaste to Her Devotees > > Most say Yantras should be drawn in 24 ct gold or in ordinary gold. > Is it worthless if the same yantram is drawn in silver, copper or wood? > will it be like humiliating the Goddesses in it? > or will it not have any power... > please somebody give a correct answer. > > If the Yantra is not drawn in the prescribed material, wont it work? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 >From my understanding, the materials on which an Yantra (specifically Sri Chakra) is drawn have different lifetimes (which may be seen as a gradation in the "ability" of the material to sustain the spiritual power). Typically, yantras are drawnn (or cast) on copper, silver and gold. Of course there are specific and enhanced applications with yantras drawn on leaves of trees and also on crystal (spatika)...for certain purposes. Sri Chakra, drawn on above metals (or die-cast) have following spiritual lifetimes - after a proper "pradhishtai" Copper = 12 years Silver = 22 years Gold = permanent Sri yantra is also made with panchaloka alloy, as the alloy incorporates all the above metals. As mentioned by Harishankar below, material has no meaning if there is no devotion from the person performing the puja. In other words, the only thing that matters is if SHE arrives to take the offerings or not. No one can force HER to arrive. As to your request "to provide 'A' correct answer," many and all the answers may be "correct." But, what may be appear correct to one may not be correct to another - depending on what one wants to hear. If I remember "correctly," you previously asked why one should chant Sri Vidya mantras if there are no wants. If the purpose is to resolve the troubles, then all the "Correct Answers" have been provided by several members here. In those discussions, there was a long and specific pointing towards the need for a guru (from kartik and Mahahrudanath). >From my experiences, both here on this group and in life, whenever someone is told to visit a "guru" or a person of that stature, it means the person in question needs guidance to nudge them (or get their rear-ends kicked) towards the right path. Unfortunately, I have seen those persons not realizing the meaning of esoteric advise from many sources, moving away from the path, get frustrated and end up somewhere not desirable. All of them were looking for "The Correct Answer." The answer which they want to hear. I, personally posted a message here, regarding how to obtain the desired food. Meaning that you can sponsor for/participate in homams etc, thereby imparting more spiritual good in self. It would help in seeing the "path" clearly as alluded to, by Sitam_Subba in the final reply to your previous query. To be even more clear, if you had read Kartik's post on "parivara" of Devi, including dustadevathas present in HER parivara, and if ever wondered how to discern between them and the Maharajni (HER), only purva punya can help (again paraphrasing Kartik). Participating in homams and other rituals will help in this aspect. I'm not saying that such actions will make you a Sri Vidya upasak overnight (unless SHE wishes you to be), but will provide clearer answers to your needs rather than wants. G , "bsharishankar" <bsharishankar wrote: > > I have been worshipping the srichakra drawn on copper for the last four years.I had only benefits and many tragic issues became healed. If the Yantra is in gold, well. If it is drawn in copper or silver there is absolutely no problem .This is from my personal experience. The divine mother consider your devotion and dedication, never the material. > > > , "Haridev.S.V" <haridevcusat@> > wrote: > > > > Namaste to Her Devotees > > > > Most say Yantras should be drawn in 24 ct gold or in ordinary gold. Is it worthless if the same yantram is drawn in silver, copper or wood? will it be like humiliating the Goddesses in it? or will it not have any power... > > please somebody give a correct answer. > > > > If the Yantra is not drawn in the prescribed material, wont it work? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Namaste, Many thanks to Ganpra for the gladdening response to this issue. I personally have always been in a personal dilema about which pAtra I should make my yantras in. Unfortunately my master did not allow me the liberty to buy ready made yantras and early on told me that it is best that the practitioner make his/her own. I could not bear to make screw-ups on valuable mediums so most of the time I would stick with copper and later silver. If the yantra was of decent standing then I'd have it gold plated. In my lifetime I've probably ever only worshipped 5 yantras thoroughly with all forms of purushcharana. Now I have only three of them remaining with me. And without making any serious generalizations I'd have to say that pAtra depends on not only the yantra, but also the type and aims of the sadhana. Above all, I think the medium is an ancillary consideration, what should matter is the time and energy one intends to invest in the prana pratistha and puja of the yantra. Some people suggest that [in the process of awakening the Meru/ Shri Chakra] the amount of puruscharana to Ratneshwari and Amriteshwara [Mrityunjaya] depends on the dhAtu itself. So the initial rites of extolling Devi into the Meru/Shri Yantra and the amount of effort you want to put it should be the first consideration. It would be imprudent of someone to waste hundreds of dollars on a yantra when all they want to do is a 30 minute worship to invoke it. Above all many tantras suggest the internalization of the Shri yantra to supercede all physical modes of worship. One who can do avarana and worship within need not worry about pAtra of worship. Visualization of Shri yantra is particularly difficult and if you look at krama carefully you will realize that the yantras of say for instance Bala and Varahi graduate in complexity from one another. Thus you train the mind to extol devi within, which is far more important than worrying about pAtra. Jaya Jaya Tripura! Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Kartik, No need to thank me, I am just a vessel which delivered water to a thirsty soul. It is apt to thank the river (HER). No, I am not a jerk, in not acknowledging your kind words. SHE gave me the ability to think, speak, read and write and thus gave you an answer to your unasked question. It is HER doing and hence the bouquet belongs to HER. G , kartik gaurav <omkaaraya wrote: > > > > Namaste, > > Many thanks to Ganpra for the gladdening response to this issue. I personally have always been in a personal dilema about which pAtra I should make my yantras in. Unfortunately my master did not allow me the liberty to buy ready made yantras and early on told me that it is best that the practitioner make his/her own. I could not bear to make screw-ups on valuable mediums so most of the time I would stick with copper and later silver. > > If the yantra was of decent standing then I'd have it gold plated. > > In my lifetime I've probably ever only worshipped 5 yantras thoroughly with all forms of purushcharana. Now I have only three of them remaining with me. And without making any serious generalizations I'd have to say that pAtra depends on not only the yantra, but also the type and aims of the sadhana. > > Above all, I think the medium is an ancillary consideration, what should matter is the time and energy one intends to invest in the prana pratistha and puja of the yantra. Some people suggest that [in the process of awakening the Meru/ Shri Chakra] the amount of puruscharana to Ratneshwari and Amriteshwara [Mrityunjaya] depends on the dhAtu itself. > So the initial rites of extolling Devi into the Meru/Shri Yantra and the amount of effort you want to put it should be the first consideration. It would be imprudent of someone to waste hundreds of dollars on a yantra when all they want to do is a 30 minute worship to invoke it. > > Above all many tantras suggest the internalization of the Shri yantra to supercede all physical modes of worship. One who can do avarana and worship within need not worry about pAtra of worship. > > Visualization of Shri yantra is particularly difficult and if you look at krama carefully you will realize that the yantras of say for instance Bala and Varahi graduate in complexity from one another. Thus you train the mind to extol devi within, which is far more important than worrying about pAtra. > > Jaya Jaya Tripura! > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Dear Divine, It will be quite interesting to know that the crystal sriyantra 11 x 11 cms x 10 mm and also the Maha Meru 3" sizes inside crystal pyramid, which were are sansctified, prana pratishta done as per mentra sastras - Parasuramakalpa sutra - which has a life of "yavat Jeevam" were installed in the Yaga sala of the Athi Rudra Maha Yagna done under the direct presence of Bhagwan Sri Sathya Sai Baba Varu which concluded in Chennai yesterday with Maha Poornahuthi. Those who attended the Yagna would have personally felt the surge of the Divine Energy which was of high intensity soothing, brought down tears in every one's eyes, because the energy of the Divine brought bliss to each and every one. The specialty of the Crystal Sriyantra is that its divine energy remains for e ver and does not need prana-pratishta time and again.There has been huge demand for this yantra and maha meru from all over the world. Perhaps for the first time in the world, Sriyantra and Maha Meru were also installed in the Athi Rudra Havan Yaga salai along with the Linga and done abishekam, archanam, tharpanam, marjanam, homam and thousands of devotees fed with very nice food. This signifies the fact that Bhagwan Baba had implied that Rudra exists with His consort everywhere in the form of subtle divine energy and blesses everyone. Regards, SATHYANANDHANATHAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Dear Haridev I am entering this a little belatedly. Kartik and Ganpra had taken great pains to explain the material on which it is proper to draw (cast) a yantra. Being learned and accomplished in the art of Upasana that they are, I really cannot add anything; but I would like to share my personal experience. I had drawn Sri Chakras on plain papers for my worship and I had derived the same level of mental peace that one gets while worshiping the Chakra drawn on superior media. Of course, being the slave I am to Devi, I have nothing special to ask of her. Being endowed with an imbecilic mind and slow wit, I am quite incapable of understanding the nuances of the right way of asking Devi for anything. You see, the difficulty is one should first know what one wants; then only can one make the application. So, the best thing is to leave all this to Devi's care, follow your Guru's words and simply let go. Om Namastripurasundari "Haridev.S.V" <haridevcusat (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Namaste to Her Devotees Most say Yantras should be drawn in 24 ct gold or in ordinary gold. Is it worthless if the same yantram is drawn in silver, copper or wood? will it be like humiliating the Goddesses in it? or will it not have any power... please somebody give a correct answer. If the Yantra is not drawn in the prescribed material, wont it work? TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 The sun is the womb of form because it is the source of it. Therefore revel in the light for it is woman. The moon is man for it is divided into night and day and therefore rules dualistically. Thus one rides the duality from unity. More specifically maybe consider some aspects of traditional Hindu Shakta tantras maybe such as the Chinnamasta, Vajrayogini, Mahakali, Lakshmi/Narayana, Sri, and such cults and chose one and stick with it. That's it! [] On Behalf Of Tyra Hargrow Wednesday, January 31, 2007 11:53 AM Newbie looking for direction Peace to you all! I am Tyra, new to Shaktism. A few years ago I began my journey back to remembering the Great Mother. Recently, I have come to accept that I am truly a Goddess worshipper. I seek to find out how one starts a practice on this path. I am seeking to have a daily practice that will assist me with moving more into Alignment with the Energy of the Great Goddess. Will someone advise me on this? Thank you in Advance. Peace, Love and Namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 But sir in some cases the material prescribed is compulsory. Most are in gold, but strange materials are also there like plant extracts, water, some strange leaf, sandalwood, and even bhasma, kumkum, turmeric etc strictly prescribed for some purpose. Is there any defect in drawing in copper instead of gold? Devotion itself becomes futile when i have doubt whether the Goddess will be happy with my Upasana, I cant simply dedicate with doubts in my mind. To be exactly sure about my devotion, i should have the corect material for that upasana. otherwise i chant in suspicion, will the Goddess accept or reject my efforts! ======================================== , "bsharishankar" <bsharishankar wrote: > > I have been worshipping the srichakra drawn on copper for the last four > years.I had only benefits and many tragic issues became healed. If the > Yantra is in gold, well. If it is drawn in copper or silver there is > absolutely no problem .This is from my personal experience. The divine > mother consider your devotion and dedication, never the material. > > > , "Haridev.S.V" <haridevcusat@> > wrote: > > > > Namaste to Her Devotees > > > > Most say Yantras should be drawn in 24 ct gold or in ordinary gold. > > Is it worthless if the same yantram is drawn in silver, copper or > wood? > > will it be like humiliating the Goddesses in it? > > or will it not have any power... > > please somebody give a correct answer. > > > > If the Yantra is not drawn in the prescribed material, wont it work? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Thanks to You, Lord Sai Baba signified the Siva-Sakthi union, Sree Yantra..Great news for me. Can you give me more information on what He says about the Mother Goddess please. , sangar narayanan <mackro1932 wrote: > > Dear Divine, > It will be quite interesting to know that the crystal sriyantra 11 x 11 cms x 10 mm and also the Maha Meru 3" sizes inside crystal pyramid, which were are sansctified, prana pratishta done as per mentra sastras - Parasuramakalpa sutra - which has a life of "yavat Jeevam" were installed in the Yaga sala of the Athi Rudra Maha Yagna done under the direct presence of Bhagwan Sri Sathya Sai Baba Varu which concluded in Chennai yesterday with Maha Poornahuthi. > Those who attended the Yagna would have personally felt the surge of the Divine Energy which was of high intensity soothing, brought down tears in every one's eyes, because the energy of the Divine brought bliss to each and every one. > The specialty of the Crystal Sriyantra is that its divine energy remains for e ver and does not need prana-pratishta time and again.There has been huge demand for this yantra and maha meru from all over the world. > Perhaps for the first time in the world, Sriyantra and Maha Meru were also installed in the Athi Rudra Havan Yaga salai along with the Linga and done abishekam, archanam, tharpanam, marjanam, homam and thousands of devotees fed with very nice food. This signifies the fact that Bhagwan Baba had implied that Rudra exists with His consort everywhere in the form of subtle divine energy and blesses everyone. > > Regards, > SATHYANANDHANATHAR > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 , "Haridev.S.V" <haridevcusat wrote: > > Helo sir, I have heard some brahmins say that Paper Yantras are futile. > I dont have a Diksha Guru. I consider Holy Mother Amritanandamayi as > my Guru. She embraced me calling " ammede kuttu...ammede kuttu" > (meaning mother's favourite child) when I went to see her in a public > Darshan. I had read her Biography and I believe that She is > one(unified) with the Goddess. Her addressing was so inspirational > that I felt the Goddess really likes me. I want to fulfil my life's > wish and it is out of my reach. only Goddess can help. > > May Her Majesty bless you. Question : "Aren't we all Mother's favourite child, or want to believe that we are HER favourite child"? So you need Amma words to convince you? I thought she say that to almost everybody. I know one young man in KL here who went to see her says the same thing : "ammede kuttu...ammede kuttu" I dont know. I remember attend some Goddess seminar looooooooong time ago before I came to Shakti Sadhana. A new age thingy. I decided to join because im just curious. The main lady : I think many there considered her as the "Guru" goes around hugging us [ all the participant] and whisper in our ears : I love you. I dont know, maybe some kind of initiation. My respond then when she whisper in my ears is : I love you too. Maybe we are feeling so insecure with outselves that we need such utterance to remind us? Then perhaps you should go back to Holy Mother Amritanandamayi and ask her. So I'm just amazed that many times disciples of Amritanandamayi comes here and ask such things.I'm being told, whatever that is you always go back to your guru and get proper instruction. Unless of course if she says she dosent know and refer you or give you permission to seek from another. Maybe different tradition have different ways of doing things. I dont know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Ammachi is Mahakali, she supports all just look in your heart where she is and feel her. But then so ia Nora, Myself, and you, and all of this. It is so it is so. [] On Behalf Of NMadasamy Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:02 AM Re: Material for Yantram , "Haridev.S.V" <haridevcusat wrote: > > Helo sir, I have heard some brahmins say that Paper Yantras are futile. > I dont have a Diksha Guru. I consider Holy Mother Amritanandamayi as > my Guru. She embraced me calling " ammede kuttu...ammede kuttu" > (meaning mother's favourite child) when I went to see her in a public > Darshan. I had read her Biography and I believe that She is > one(unified) with the Goddess. Her addressing was so inspirational > that I felt the Goddess really likes me. I want to fulfil my life's > wish and it is out of my reach. only Goddess can help. > > May Her Majesty bless you. Question : "Aren't we all Mother's favourite child, or want to believe that we are HER favourite child"? So you need Amma words to convince you? I thought she say that to almost everybody. I know one young man in KL here who went to see her says the same thing : "ammede kuttu...ammede kuttu" I dont know. I remember attend some Goddess seminar looooooooong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 I know of a person who received a bashyam of some stotras about HER in the form of a book. He never read the bashyam for a few months. One day, he was bored and started to read the bashyam like any other novel. While starting to read the meaning of the Dhyana slokam, he felt something odd....a presence within himself. Took him a minute to realize what it was (or rather who it was)....his thoughts were, "Oh sh*t! As if my life is not complicated enough....now this!!" He had no knowledgeable sources to whom he can approach as he was living in a place far away from any Hindu community, let alone shaktas. So he took the only option available. Started chanting the slokas after taking a shower, in the morning. His attitude was, "YOU want me to chant your names, then YOU guide me." His way of total surrender. SHE was amused by his child like behaviour - "you want me to eat, then you have to tell me a story." No, he did not dive into Sri Vidya mantras....but just some slokas/stotras. He knows he must learn to crawl before learning to walk and then run the marathon. Eventually, he found this group, guided by HER - and is still here, somewhere. , "NMadasamy" <nmadasamy wrote: > Then perhaps you should go back to Holy Mother Amritanandamayi and > ask her. So I'm just amazed that many times disciples of > Amritanandamayi comes here and ask such things.I'm being told, > whatever that is you always go back to your guru and get proper > instruction. Unless of course if she says she dosent know and refer > you or give you permission to seek from another. Maybe different > tradition have different ways of doing things. I dont know. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Thanks [] On Behalf Of Tyra Hargrow Friday, February 02, 2007 2:46 PM RE: Newbie looking for direction I appreciate you! Peace and Namaste Tyra llundrub <llundrub (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote: The sun is the womb of form because it is the source of it. Therefore revel in the light for it is woman. The moon is man for it is divided into night and day and therefore rules dualistically. Thus one rides the duality from unity. More specifically maybe consider some aspects of traditional Hindu Shakta tantras maybe such as the Chinnamasta, Vajrayogini, Mahakali, Lakshmi/Narayana, Sri, and such cults and chose one and stick with it. That's it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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