Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Can anyone help me with this request? In trying to reconcile various concepts I find most helpful a visual presentation mapping information that provides an overview to work from. I am experiencing difficulty in this endeavour to simplify advaitin philosophy into a general picture which I can then further segment into more detail. There continue to arise additional concepts/gods etc. and I don't quite understand where they fit in the big picture. Is anyone aware of any maps on the net depicting this philosophy? (e.g. boxes/arrows/subgroups/synonyms) If there was a pictorial overview or map available it could be added to with each additional definition so one could see where each new concept/definition/god/deva, fitted in the overall view of the philosophy. I find the mindmap of yoga on swamij website quite helpful www.swamij.com/mind-map.htm and this is the type of image I am hoping to find. Some learn best working from a particular point outwards, others learn best from having a basic big picture and working down into the detail. any help is greatly appreciated, warm regards, Dot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 advaitin, "advaitarules" <advaitarules wrote: > > Can anyone help me with this request? > > In trying to reconcile various concepts I find most helpful a visual > presentation mapping information that provides an overview to work > from. > Please visit links (#13,14,15) at: http://acharya.iitm.ac.in/mirrors/vv/literature/sadharma.html Let us know if you need more info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Thankyou for the link, I love the 'Advaitic Cosmology' chart. A heap of questions arise relating to the map (my apologies for this). Is the 'tiny fragment' section on the map also known as hiranyagarbha? Is the tiny fragment the point at which duality commences? The 'maya' box is off to the side why is it placed there, doesn't it arise with the 'tiny fragment' ? Do the hindu gods and devas fit within the 'Ishvara' section of the chart? Is it possible to explain where the various samadhi's and/or moksha would occur in the cosmology chart? Where does "I am" first appear? Does the recently discussed SukSma sarira fit within the 'jiva' section on the map? I immensely appreciate any answers to these questions and additional information relating to topics discussed in Advaitin and their relationship to this chart. warm regards Dot advaitins <advaitins > advaitin Saturday, 27 January, 2007 2:23:26 PM Re: Is there a map or pictorial explanation of advaitin philosophy? advaitin@ s.com, "advaitarules" <advaitarules@ ...> wrote: > > Can anyone help me with this request? > > In trying to reconcile various concepts I find most helpful a visual > presentation mapping information that provides an overview to work > from. > Please visit links (#13,14,15) at: http://acharya. iitm.ac.in/ mirrors/vv/ literature/ sadharma. html Let us know if you need more info. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 advaitin, Advaita Rules <advaitarules wrote: > > Thankyou for the link, I love the 'Advaitic Cosmology' chart. > > A heap of questions arise relating to the map (my apologies for this). Namaste. As the author of the chart I shall attempt to answer your questions. But I must confess that you are really helping me to understand the chart better and thereby improving it. Thank you for the same. My answers below are contained in [...]. Incidentally, you may refer to http://www.geocities.com/profvk/LHGWchart1.html for the same chart, where one or two corrections have ben made. > > Is the 'tiny fragment' section on the map also known as hiranyagarbha? [This is an excellent suggestion. Offhand I will say: Yes. But I would like to think more about it before I finally confirm it ] > Is the tiny fragment the point at which duality commences? [There is no question about duality commencing. Duality is the work of mAyA. It arises from it and dies when mAyA is transcended] > The 'maya' box is off to the side why is it placed there, doesn't it arise with the 'tiny fragment' ? [You can see a small separate arrow for the origin of the 'tiny fragment' in the chart quoted above. Thus the two arrows, one for the tiny fragment and one for the mAyA show that mAyA and all its ramifications of matter end there and if at all, are withdrawn back into the same parA-shakti, whereas, the JIva and Ishvara that sprout forth from the tiny fragment, in their essential content, namely, JIvAtman and paramAtman, are one and the same.] > Do the hindu gods and devas fit within the 'Ishvara' section of the chart? [Yes] > Is it possible to explain where the various samadhi's and/or moksha would occur in the cosmology chart? [i have not thought about this] > Where does "I am" first appear? [Along with JIva] > Does the recently discussed SukSma sarira fit within the 'jiva' section on the map? [Yes. It is part of the kshara-purusha] > I immensely appreciate any answers to these questions and additional information relating to topics discussed in Advaitin and their relationship to this chart. > > warm regards > Dot > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Dear Professor, Thankyou for your responses to my questions. Please advise if there are any further development to your chart. > > > > warm regards > > Dot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Dear Dot : first , let me welcome you to the group. i really appreciated the fact that you took the initiative of defining some Advaitic terms as per Dennisji's request . What a team player , you are ! dot , i would like to direct you to the following web site ... it is quite an interesting web site with charts and lovely pictorial illustrations (of course , paler in comparison to Professorji's web site) ... of course , use 'discrimination' as a tool while processing some of the information on this site ... they are the Author's views ! http://www.bhagavadgitausa.com/bg04.htm - 198k - Cached enjoy! best wishes advaitin, "advaitarules" <advaitarules wrote: > > Dear Professor, > Thankyou for your responses to my questions. Please advise if there > are any further development to your chart. > > > > > > > warm regards > > > Dot > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 advaitin, "V. Krishnamurthy" <profvk wrote: > > > Is the tiny fragment the point at which duality commences? > > [There is no question about duality commencing. Duality is the work of mAyA. It arises from it and dies when mAyA is transcended] > > Prof VK Ji, sAshTAMga praNAmaM. Your above answer confused me. Is not the manifestation contained within Hiranyagarbha? If so, is not mAyA then is also contained in Hiranyagarbha? In that case, then, doesn't Hiranyagarbha envelop the parA-Sakti and aprarA-Sakti construct and not Tiny Fragment? Please clarify. Thank You Sudesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Hello Dhyanasaraswati, Thankyou for the welcome and the link. All of these charts help with developing understanding. I will have a closer look at it over the weekend. warm regards, Dot http://www.bhagavad gitausa.com/ bg04.htm - 198k - Cached Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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