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Aum

Dear sir,

I am a follower of advaita vedanta.When Iam searching the web -articles I get some informations which are quoted below .

1."Professors of philosophy in India refer to a verse from the Padma Purana (Uttara khanda 25.7) that reveals the hidden identity of Shankaracarya:

 

mayavadam asac-chastram

pracchannam bauddham ucyate

mayaiva vihitam devi

kalau brahmana-murtina

"The Mayavada philosophy, Siva informed his wife Parvati, is covered Buddhism. In the form of a brahmana in the kali-yuga, I teach this imagined philosophy." Shankaracarya is thus widely accepted as an incarnation of Shiva."

2.The Mayavada was introduced by Siva as per the order of SupremeLordLord Vishnu(Same Purana).The same concept is also stated in Siva Purana."

Sir,is these arguments are correct?I have no idea about these matters.Please give me a proper answer

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Shree manjith Kumar,

 

PraNams.

 

I do not have padma puraNa to check the authenticity

of the sloka. Shree Sundar may be able to do that.

 

If I recall, calling Shakara as pracchanna boudha is

started by dwaitin groups. Accusations and counter

accusations have been going on from Charvaka time. It

is better to ignore that kind of arguments. Shankara's

advaita is not really maya vaada. It starts with

Brahma satyam - which is one without a second

(advaita). If at all it should be rightly called as

Brahma vaada.

 

Second if Padma puraNa has the sloka, then the

authenticity of eiher the sloka or the puraNa itself

can be questioned. It could be interpolation into

puraNa or the PuraNa itself is written much latter

than 9th century since it refers to mayavada and

bouddhism.

 

Hence it is better to stick to prasthaana traya -

Vedas, Bhagavat Gita, Brahma suutra, in that order for

PramaaNa.

 

I suggest that it is better not to get into this kind

meaningless discussions. Discussion of how far

Advaita differs from Buddhism is an interesting point,

and we had Our friend Benjamin Root who was very fond

of equating the two.

 

Hari OM!

Sadananda

 

--- manjith kumar <adhiti444 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

> Aum

> Dear sir,

> I am a follower of advaita

> vedanta.When Iam searching the web -articles I get

> some informations which are quoted below .

>

> 1."Professors of philosophy in India refer to a

> verse from the Padma Purana (Uttara khanda 25.7)

> that reveals the hidden identity of Shankaracarya:

>

> mayavadam asac-chastram

> pracchannam bauddham ucyate

> mayaiva vihitam devi

> kalau brahmana-murtina

> "The Mayavada philosophy, Siva informed his wife

> Parvati, is covered Buddhism. In the form of a

> brahmana in the kali-yuga, I teach this imagined

> philosophy." Shankaracarya is thus widely accepted

> as an incarnation of Shiva."

>

>

> 2.The Mayavada was introduced by Siva as per the

> order of SupremeLordLord Vishnu(Same Purana).The

> same concept is also stated in Siva Purana."

>

>

> Sir,is

> these arguments are correct?I have no idea about

> these matters.Please give me a proper answer

>

> By

>

> manjithpunalur (AT) (DOT) co.in

>

>

>

>

> Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for -

> Answers

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Shree manjith Kumar,

 

PraNams.

 

I do not have padma puraNa to check the authenticity

of the sloka. Shree Sundar may be able to do that.

 

If I recall, calling Shakara as pracchanna boudha is

started by dwaitin groups. Accusations and counter

accusations have been going on from Charvaka time. It

is better to ignore that kind of arguments. Shankara's

advaita is not really maya vaada. It starts with

Brahma satyam - which is one without a second

(advaita). If at all it should be rightly called as

Brahma vaada.

 

Second if Padma puraNa has the sloka, then the

authenticity of eiher the sloka or the puraNa itself

can be questioned. It could be interpolation into

puraNa or the PuraNa itself is written much latter

than 9th century since it refers to mayavada and

bouddhism.

 

Hence it is better to stick to prasthaana traya -

Vedas, Bhagavat Gita, Brahma suutra, in that order for

PramaaNa.

 

I suggest that it is better not to get into this kind

meaningless discussions. Discussion of how far

Advaita differs from Buddhism is an interesting point,

and we had Our friend Benjamin Root who was very fond

of equating the two.

 

Hari OM!

Sadananda

 

--- manjith kumar <adhiti444 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

> Aum

> Dear sir,

> I am a follower of advaita

> vedanta.When Iam searching the web -articles I get

> some informations which are quoted below .

>

> 1."Professors of philosophy in India refer to a

> verse from the Padma Purana (Uttara khanda 25.7)

> that reveals the hidden identity of Shankaracarya:

>

> mayavadam asac-chastram

> pracchannam bauddham ucyate

> mayaiva vihitam devi

> kalau brahmana-murtina

> "The Mayavada philosophy, Siva informed his wife

> Parvati, is covered Buddhism. In the form of a

> brahmana in the kali-yuga, I teach this imagined

> philosophy." Shankaracarya is thus widely accepted

> as an incarnation of Shiva."

>

>

> 2.The Mayavada was introduced by Siva as per the

> order of SupremeLordLord Vishnu(Same Purana).The

> same concept is also stated in Siva Purana."

>

>

> Sir,is

> these arguments are correct?I have no idea about

> these matters.Please give me a proper answer

>

> By

>

> manjithpunalur (AT) (DOT) co.in

>

>

>

>

> Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for -

> Answers

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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advaitin, manjith kumar <adhiti444 wrote:

>

> Aum

> Dear sir,

> I am a follower of advaita vedanta.When Iam

searching the web -articles I get some informations which are quoted

below .

>

> 1."Professors of philosophy in India refer to a verse from the

Padma Purana (Uttara khanda 25.7) that reveals the hidden identity

of Shankaracarya:

>

> mayavadam asac-chastram

> pracchannam bauddham ucyate

> mayaiva vihitam devi

> kalau brahmana-murtina

> "The Mayavada philosophy, Siva informed his wife Parvati, is

covered Buddhism. In the form of a brahmana in the kali-yuga, I

teach this imagined philosophy." Shankaracarya is thus widely

accepted as an incarnation of Shiva."

>

>

> 2.The Mayavada was introduced by Siva as per the order of

SupremeLordLord Vishnu(Same Purana).The same concept is also stated

in Siva Purana."

 

ShrIgurubhyo namaH

 

Dear Manjith,

 

Namaste. While Sri Sadanandaji has most decently replied your above

post, let me 'indulge' in some semantics:

 

As you have said above, Lord Vishnu is to be held vicariously

responsible for that 'fraud'. For, afterall, is He not the 'kapaTa-

nATaka-sUtradhArii' in the Mahabharata? Shiva only carried out the

order of Vishnu.

 

Let us take up the shloka as such:

 

maayaa-vaadam = The Gita says: DaivI hyeShA guNamayI mama mAyA

duratyayA. = This, My, MAyA made of three gunas is most difficult to

overcome. The Lord says that it is His mAya. The Lord also says

there itself: He who surrenders to Me alone, can overcome My MAyA.

 

In the Gita itself we find: mAyayA apahRRita chetAH....= people,

deluded by Maayaa...remain in bondage...

 

The above is what is meant by the word 'MAyA-vAda' in the

Padmapurana shloka.

 

asac-chastram = the meaning is: 'Brahma/Atma vyatiriktam sarvam

asat iti yat shAstram bodhayati tat asat-chAstram' That shastra that

teaches that everything other than Brahman/Atman (Pure

Consciousness) is asat, non-existent, is called asat-shaastram.

That is it teaches that the world, the jivatva, bondage, etc. are

all non existent from the Absolute Brahman point of view.

 

The Gita itself teaches: na asato vidyate bhAvaH. The asat does not

have true reality/existence. The Gita says elsewhere: Brahman is

neither sat nor asat. The Taittiriya/Chandogya says: asadvA idam

agra aasIt: asat alone existed prior to creation.

 

The above is what is meant by the word: 'asat-shaastram'.

 

 

pracchannam bauddham ucyate: Meaning: The Truth is pracchannam,

covered. It is bauddham: buddhi-sambandhinam bauddham. buddhi-

graahyam, buddhi-pradhaanam, sUkshma, shuddha, teekshNa buddyaa eva

avagamyamAnam. It is related to buddhi, intellect,. so bauddham.

The Advaitic Truth of the Upanishads is graspable by that intellect

alone that is pure, sharp and subtle. The Mundaka and other

Upanishads teach this.

 

mayaiva vihitam devi

kalau brahmana-murtina

 

The Padma Puraana has paid such a rich homage to Acharya Shankara

and the Aupanishada Advaita doctrine that He taught. So, the above

verse does no harm to Shankara or Advaita. What you have said

as 'imagined philosophy' should be properly read as: 'imagination'-

philosophy. This philosophy teaches that jivatva, bondage, and the

prapancha, world, are all the product of imagination and therefore

not real. The Gita and the Upanishads eminently bear out this truth.

 

Warm regards,

subbu

Om Tat Sat

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--- AUM

Dear sir,

Thank you for your valuable reply.I know that actualyy

these arguments will not help we in spiritual progress.But

sometimes,tobe say,these comments on advaita makes bothering

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--- AUM

Dear sir,

Thank you for your valuable reply.I know that actualyy

these arguments will not help we in spiritual progress.But

sometimes,tobe say,these comments on advaita makes bothering

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AUM

Dear sir,

Thank you for your valuable reply.I know that actualy

these arguments will not help we in spiritual progress.But

sometimes,tobe say,these comments on advaita makes bothering

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--- AUM

Dear sir,

Thank you for your valuable reply.I know that actualyy

these arguments will not help we in spiritual progress.But

sometimes,tobe say,these comments on advaita makes bothering

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