Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 At the risk of opening up this to and fro topic with strong views on either view here is a point on consideration. It is clear that the primary reason why bulls are being slaughtered is because there is no economics to justify their working. The bulls are being replaced with tractors and trucks, in order to live a philosophy of avoiding implication in the slaughter industry we should also avoid all food produced by tractor or transported by truck etc.......Clearly this is not a practical suggestion.....Dont you see how selective the philosophy of milk abstenation is? We should purify our milk and the cows who gave it by offering it and at the same time we should do something to support Cow protection and certainly at least this should start with the nearest goshallas. Practically speaking all the western ISKCON goshallas are on the verge of capitulation and basically for the reason that the goshalla workers are expected to only be volunteers. Cow protection must be in the hands of persons who are dependant on it for their livlihood if it at all is going to be sustainable. As we would not pay the real price directly for naturally produced milk we should at least pay some regular amount of money to our local goshalla to offset our milk bought from non-devotee sources. We need to purify our milk purchasing by offering it to Krishna and by supporting financially our most local goshalla. Supporting the goshalla will mean that a large proportion of the donated money will go to pay for the labour of the cow protecting devotees. If the cow protectors cannot maintain their families from cow protection it is unlikely they will remain cow protectors primarlily. They will do something else with their time tomaintain their families. Dont boycot milk - Offer the milk to Krishna and support your nearest goshalla. Dont boycot tractor and truck produced food - offer the food to krishna and support you local goshalla so they can grow food with oxen ys syamasundara dasa Goshalla Manager Bhaktivedanta Manor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Haribol Actually the primary reason bulls are being slaughtered is because people want to eat beef, not because of economics which is really secondary. To boycott tractors and trucks is kind of indirect and not to the point so it doesnt equate with the abstention from milk of exploited dairy cows. In this area where I live tractors are not used at all but farmers heartlessly trade their old oxen to the cattle traders for young ones and of course they are slaughtered. Also in Cuba they work oxen all the time but they still eat them too and in early pioneer days in USA they had only oxen and horses but they killed and ate them too so usefulness does not mean they wont eventually kill them unless they come to the platform of civilised human life. So preaching is the need of the day. Devotees need to be reminded about the torture of dairy cows . Otherwise they go on drinking shop milk thinking its ok or not thinking at all. Devotees do need to support their local goshalla , and even more ,make new ones and go sadans and turn to agriculture and support cowherd families with all efforts and resources. No brahminical culture without cow protection, and drinking shop milk doesnt belong to either category. Goseva ki jai your servant Labangalatika dasi - Syamasundara (das) (Bhaktivedanta Manor - UK) <Syamasundara (AT) pamho (DOT) net> Radlett Languages <radlettlanguages1 (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> Cc: Cow (Protection and related issues) <Cow (AT) pamho (DOT) net> Saturday, February 03, 2007 4:41 PM milk > At the risk of opening up this to and fro topic with strong views on either > view here is a point on consideration. > > It is clear that the primary reason why bulls are being slaughtered is > because there is no economics to justify their working. The bulls are being > replaced with tractors and trucks, in order to live a philosophy of avoiding > implication in the slaughter industry we should also avoid all food produced > by tractor or transported by truck etc.......Clearly this is not a practical > suggestion.....Dont you see how selective the philosophy of milk abstenation > is? > > We should purify our milk and the cows who gave it by offering it and at the > same time we should do something to support Cow protection and certainly at > least this should start with the nearest goshallas. Practically speaking all > the western ISKCON goshallas are on the verge of capitulation and basically > for the reason that the goshalla workers are expected to only be volunteers. > Cow protection must be in the hands of persons who are dependant on it for > their livlihood if it at all is going to be sustainable. > > As we would not pay the real price directly for naturally produced milk we > should at least pay some regular amount of money to our local goshalla to > offset our milk bought from non-devotee sources. > > We need to purify our milk purchasing by offering it to Krishna and by > supporting financially our most local goshalla. Supporting the goshalla will > mean that a large proportion of the donated money will go to pay for the > labour of the cow protecting devotees. If the cow protectors cannot maintain > their families from cow protection it is unlikely they will remain cow > protectors primarlily. They will do something else with their time > tomaintain their families. > > Dont boycot milk - Offer the milk to Krishna and support your nearest > goshalla. > > Dont boycot tractor and truck produced food - offer the food to krishna and > support you local goshalla so they can grow food with oxen > > ys syamasundara dasa > Goshalla Manager > Bhaktivedanta Manor > > ----------------------- > To from this mailing list, send an email to: > Cow-Owner (AT) pamho (DOT) net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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