Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 > bhaktivinoda thakura writing on 5 th canto SB as hell being allegorical > > source: sadaputa's vedic cosmography p. 165-166 Could you tell us more about it, Prabhu? So that we can thoroughly understand it. Thank you. sadaputa gives 2 pages explanation it is in the supplementary vedabase Q: Some have said that the description of the universe in the Fifth Canto is allegorical and that Bhagavatam commentators have declared this. For example, Bhaktivinoda Thakura has said that the descriptions of hell are allegorical. Why don’t you just accept the Fifth Canto as an allegory and leave it at that? A: It would indeed make things easier if we could simply accept the description of the universe in the Fifth Canto as an allegory. But in good conscience we cannot do so. Let us carefully consider the reasons for this. First of all, consider the statements of Bhaktivinoda Thakura about descriptions of hell in the Bhagavatam. In The Bhagavata he writes, “In some of the chapters we meet with descriptions of these hells and heavens, and accounts of curious tales, but we have been warned somewhere in the book not to accept them as real facts, but as inventions to overawe the wicked and improve the simple and ignorant. The Bhagavata certainly tells us of a state of reward and punishment in the future according to deeds in our present situation. All poetic inventions besides this spiritual fact have been described as statements borrowed from other works.” According to this passage, not only the hells but also the material heavens are dismissed as poetic inventions. But if the heavens are inventions, what can one say about their inhabitants, such as Indra? If Indra is also imaginary, then how are we to understand the story of the lifting of Govardhana Hill? This must also be imaginary, and we are led to an allegorical interpretation of Krsna’s pastimes. In The Bhagavata Bhaktivinoda Thakura is indeed introducing the Bhagavatam in this way. We would suggest that he is doing this in accordance with time and circumstances. He describes his readers in the following words: “When we were in college, reading the philosophical works of the West,i we had a real hatred towards the Bhagavata. That great work looked like a repository of wicked and stupid ideas scarcely adapted to the nineteenth century, and we hated to hear any arguments in its favor.” In order to sidestep the strong prejudices of readers trained by the British in Western thinking, Bhaktivinoda Thakura is presenting the Bhagavatam as allegorical, but we would suggest that this is not his final conclusion. Srila Prabhupada has explained that the Vedic literatures should be understood in terms of mukhya-vrtti, or direct meaning, rather than gauna-vrtti, or indirect meaning. He has also said, “Sometimes, however, as a matter of necessity, Vedic literature is described in terms of the laksana-vrtti or gauna-vrtti, but one should not accept such explanations as permanent truths” (CC AL 7.110p). Bhaktivinoda Thakura was reviving Vaisnavism at a time when it had almost completely disappeared because of internal deviations and Western propaganda, and he may have concluded that an allegorical presentation was necessary under those circumstances. In establishing the foundations of Vaisnavism in the West, Srila Prabhupada stressed the importance of the direct interpretation of sastra. He writes, “Considering the different situation of different planets and also time and circumstances, there is nothing wonderful in the stories of the Puranas, nor are they imaginary.i We should not, therefore, reject the stories and histories of the Puranas as imaginary. The great rsis like Vyasa had no business putting some imaginary stories in their literatures” (SB 1.3.41p). But could the description of the universe in the Fifth Canto be an allegory like the story of King Puranjana? Srila Prabhupada makes many statements indicating that this not so. For example, he says that “we can understand that the sky and its various planets were studied long, long before Srimad-Bhagavatam was compiled.i The location of the various planetary systems was not unknown to the sages who flourished in the Vedic age” (SB 5.16.1p). He also says, “The measurements given herein, such as 10,000 yojanas or 100,000 yojanas, should be considered correct because they have been given by Sukadeva Gosvami” (SB 5.16.10p). In this book we have therefore tried to show that the Fifth Canto is giving a reasonable picture of the universe consistent with (1) transcendental Vedic philosophy, (2) the tradition of Vedic mathematical astronomy, and (3) our imperfect sense data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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