Guest guest Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Dear Ramakanta Prabhu, PAMHO. AGTSP! <In your last text you did not present any statement by Srila Prabhupada. Therefore your argument (points a, b and c) remains incomplete and does not prove anything. You have not proven that the only way to authorize a devotee to be a diksa guru in ISKCON is an order to the GBC which must have been seen by you. And you will never be able to prove it.> In your last text you did not present any statement by Srila Prabhupada authorising the GBC to change the status quo (point a). Therefore your challenge to the status quo you agree existed since 1966 remains incomplete. You need to prove that Srila Prabhupada authorised the GBC to operate an alternative initiation system to the one he locked in place prior to his departure. And you will never be able to do this since you have conceded that you are not even claiming such an order to the GBC exists. Therefore within the rules of this debate point c) stands. You remain defeated. This debate is based on visible evidence <Well, then please present some visible evidence that Srila Prabhupada was authorized to remove Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur as the sole diksa guru and put himself in that position. If you do not, then please stop dictating rules that you do not follow yourself.> This is not the subject of our debate. I can understand that since you have been defeated you would now want to completely change the subject and start talking about another acharya’s instructions for a completely different mission which were completely different instructions from the instructions Srila Prabhupada gave for the GBC in ISKCON. But first we must finish our debate about Srila Prabhupada’s position within ISKCON. Once you concede you have no evidence to challenge point c) I will happily discuss other things. First things first. Best wishes Ys Yadu Ramakanta (das) HKS (PAMHO.NET SysOp) (Zurich - CH) <Ramakanta.HKS (AT) pamho (DOT) net> Initiations in ISKCON <Initiations.in.ISKCON (AT) pamho (DOT) net> Wednesday, February 21, 2007 7:18:00 AM Re: Ramakanta effectively concedes defeat Dear Yaduraja Prabhu, PAMHO. AGTSP! In your last text you did not present any statement by Srila Prabhupada. Therefore your argument (points a, b and c) remains incomplete and does not prove anything. You have not proven that the only way to authorize a devotee to be a diksa guru in ISKCON is an order to the GBC which must have been seen by you. And you will never be able to prove it. > This debate is based on visible evidence Well, then please present some visible evidence that Srila Prabhupada was authorized to remove Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur as the sole diksa guru and put himself in that position. If you do not, then please stop dictating rules that you do not follow yourself. ys Ramakanta dasa ----------------------- To from this mailing list, send an email to: Initiations.in.ISKCON-Owner (AT) pamho (DOT) net _____________________________ _____ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search./shortcuts/#loc_weather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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