Ramakanta still has no evidence to challenge point c.

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Dear Ramakanta Prabhu, PAMHO. AGTSP!

 

<You obviously did not understand my challenge. So here is it again:

 

Your argument (points a, b and c) is incomplete because the inference

(confirmed by Srila Prabhupada) is missing. You only presented two premises

and the conclusion. You have not proven that the only way to authorize a

devotee to be a diksa guru in ISKCON is an order to the GBC which must have

been seen by you.>

 

You obviously did not understand my answer, so here it is again:

 

1) The GBC were set up as the ‘ultimate managing authority’ for ISKCON. Please

look up the word ‘ultimate’.

2) They were told exactly how to manage initiation.

3) They were told not to change the system of management.

 

I have proven the above with quotes.

 

Therefore if you want to challenge the system Srila Prabhupada put in place for

conducting initiation you must prove he authorised the GBC to change it. There

is no higher managing authority within ISKCON than the GBC (as defined by Srila

Prabhupada). No-one can initiate anyone without the GBC allowing this to occur.

And, on the basis of visible evidence (which is all this debate allows) they

were ONLY authorised to allow Srila Prabhupada to initiate disciples as I have

proven.

 

Thus the burden of proof is on you if you want to change or challenge the

system of initiation the GBC were told to manage, and which you accept is the

status quo he set in place way back in 1966.

 

Since you have already said you are not claiming you can produce such an order

to the GBC, you are defeated. Better luck next time.

 

It is not evidence to imply;

 

I am not qualified,

Srila Prabhupada does not say such evidence should be visible,

I am enquiring beyond my limit etc etc.

 

The above are just different ways of saying:

 

‘I have no evidence to challenge point c).’

 

Why not just be honest and admit you have no visible evidence challenging point

c).

 

Best wishes

Ys

Yadu

 

 

 

 

Ramakanta (das) HKS (PAMHO.NET SysOp) (Zurich - CH)

<Ramakanta.HKS (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

Initiations in ISKCON <Initiations.in.ISKCON (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

Friday, February 23, 2007 6:30:00 AM

Ramakanta still tries to change the subject

 

 

Dear Yaduraja Prabhu, PAMHO. AGTSP!

 

You obviously did not understand my challenge. So here is it again:

 

Your argument (points a, b and c) is incomplete because the inference

(confirmed by Srila Prabhupada) is missing. You only presented two premises

and the conclusion. You have not proven that the only way to authorize a

devotee to be a diksa guru in ISKCON is an order to the GBC which must have

been seen by you.

 

If your point c) is proven by other premises and inferences, you can present

them later. First you have to admit that your argument (points a, b and c)

is incomplete and therefore your point c) is not proven by your points a)

and b).

 

ys Ramakanta dasa

 

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