Guest guest Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 Dear Ramakanta Prabhu, PAMHO. AGTSP! > 1) The GBC were set up as the ‘ultimate managing authority’ for ISKCON. > 2) They were told exactly how to manage initiation. > 3) They were told not to change the system of management. <Why are you presenting these three additional points? Is your point c) not proven by your points a) and b) only?> This is a pathetically weak response clearly meant to distract attention away from your defeat. Our position is reinforced by layers of additional argumentation which I have not yet deployed against your weak and hopeless challenges, as you well know. Points a,b,and c, are themselves an extremely simplified and abbreviated expression of the IRM’s position, as you well know. For a complete overview of our position I recommend you read all our responses to GBC approved position papers. Your current challenge: <You have not proven that the only way to authorize a devotee to be a diksa guru in ISKCON is an order to the GBC which must have been seen by you.> Is self defeating since: "You have not proven that Srila Prabhupada has authorised that Ramakanta das (or anyone else) can challenge his visible, signed directives to the GBC and approved resolutions on the basis of theoretical, invisible orders" Your challenge also effectively concedes defeat within a debate which is based on existent, visible evidence. I have proven that, on the basis of visible evidence (which is the ONLY type this debate allows), our position stands and your challenges fails. However, I accept that within your own dreamy, speculative fantasy land, where that which exists has no more weight than that which does not, we may be completely defeated. You now need to find someone else willing to debate you on the basis of new, crazy rules that allow visible orders to be challenged or terminated on the basis of phantom evidence. Remember: 'Evidence that doesn't exist is no evidence at all' Best wishes Ys Yadu Ramakanta (das) HKS (PAMHO.NET SysOp) (Zurich - CH) <Ramakanta.HKS (AT) pamho (DOT) net> Initiations in ISKCON <Initiations.in.ISKCON (AT) pamho (DOT) net> Saturday, February 24, 2007 7:02:00 AM Ramakanta still has no evidence to challenge point c. Dear Yaduraja Prabhu, PAMHO. AGTSP! > 1) The GBC were set up as the ‘ultimate managing authority’ for ISKCON. > 2) They were told exactly how to manage initiation. > 3) They were told not to change the system of management. Why are you presenting these three additional points? Is your point c) not proven by your points a) and b) only? ys Ramakanta dasa ----------------------- To from this mailing list, send an email to: Initiations.in.ISKCON-Owner (AT) pamho (DOT) net _____________________________ _____ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. http://smallbusiness./r-index Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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