Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 harsha, michael, all: friends, what is the purpose of this gathering? respectfully yosy _()_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 As the question is asked, it must be close : ) Alan -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: [] På vegne av yosyx Sendt: 20. februar 2007 22:13 Til: Emne: a question harsha, michael, all: friends, what is the purpose of this gathering? respectfully yosy _()_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Dear Yosy, This list has a certain charter and is meant to be a gathering of devotees of Bhagavan or anyone interested in the yogic and meditative paths, etc. I don't know what the ultimate purpose is of anything. All questions of purpose if pursued lead one to ask about the purpose of existence. Why does existence exist? Because it is its nature. The questions of purpose and meaning and perception fundamentally pertain to the mind. Existence does not depend on mind. It is through words and through the mind, one walks the path, however imaginary; and reaches the state that is beyond purpose and meaning. It is pure Existence-Being. Complete. Whole. Content. Silent. Self resting in It Self. One without a second. What could be its purpose other than to be It Self. Words can only indicate it. Once in the Heart, One becomes the Heart. Love to all Harsha yosyx wrote: > harsha, michael, all: friends, what is > the purpose of this gathering? > > respectfully > yosy > _()_ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Dear Yosy could you please explain why you really want to know the purpose of this gathering???? Afterwards i would like to answer it in my way..... respectfully michael - yosyx Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:12 PM a question harsha, michael, all: friends, what is the purpose of this gathering? respectfully yosy _()_ __________ Informazione NOD32 2072 (20070220) __________ Questo messaggio è stato controllato dal Sistema Antivirus NOD32 http://www.nod32.it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Dear Harsha do those for whom ADVAITA/NONDUALITY, GD, SELF, HEART, LOVE......is the essence of being need a reason for existence? Is it not enough to try to fill the gap between knowing it and living it moment to moment? Awaiting your esteemed answer.... yours in GD michael - Harsha Wednesday, February 21, 2007 1:19 AM Re: a question Dear Yosy, This list has a certain charter and is meant to be a gathering of devotees of Bhagavan or anyone interested in the yogic and meditative paths, etc. I don't know what the ultimate purpose is of anything. All questions of purpose if pursued lead one to ask about the purpose of existence. Why does existence exist? Because it is its nature. The questions of purpose and meaning and perception fundamentally pertain to the mind. Existence does not depend on mind. It is through words and through the mind, one walks the path, however imaginary; and reaches the state that is beyond purpose and meaning. It is pure Existence-Being. Complete. Whole. Content. Silent. Self resting in It Self. One without a second. What could be its purpose other than to be It Self. Words can only indicate it. Once in the Heart, One becomes the Heart. Love to all Harsha yosyx wrote: > harsha, michael, all: friends, what is > the purpose of this gathering? > > respectfully > yosy > _()_ > > > __________ Informazione NOD32 2072 (20070220) __________ Questo messaggio è stato controllato dal Sistema Antivirus NOD32 http://www.nod32.it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 dear yosy, the veiling power of the mind is the most subtle of impurities... all thought is related to language as the obverse and reverse sides of the same coin. one cannot exist without the other. can anyone see an object without thinking of it? nothing is perceived without thinking...... "we are gathered here" because it was destined. Bhagawan has always stressed about pragrabdha karma. the answer to "the purpose of this gathering" can't be intellectually perceived... we strive to go through the flow of "life" by keeping the mind still.... anbudan Harsha <harsha (AT) (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Yosy, This list has a certain charter and is meant to be a gathering of devotees of Bhagavan or anyone interested in the yogic and meditative paths, etc. I don't know what the ultimate purpose is of anything. All questions of purpose if pursued lead one to ask about the purpose of existence. Why does existence exist? Because it is its nature. The questions of purpose and meaning and perception fundamentally pertain to the mind. Existence does not depend on mind. It is through words and through the mind, one walks the path, however imaginary; and reaches the state that is beyond purpose and meaning. It is pure Existence-Being. Complete. Whole. Content. Silent. Self resting in It Self. One without a second. What could be its purpose other than to be It Self. Words can only indicate it. Once in the Heart, One becomes the Heart. Love to all Harsha yosyx wrote: > harsha, michael, all: friends, what is > the purpose of this gathering? > > respectfully > yosy > _()_ > > > PEACE through SURRENDER ... TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 > > - > yosyx > > Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:12 PM > a question > > > > harsha, michael, all: friends, what is > the purpose of this gathering? > > respectfully > yosy > _()_ What is the purpose of a dog? No purpose, it just is. Asking about a purpose implies an ego trying to attain something that isn't already here. We don't need no stinking purpose, we don't got to show you no stinking purpose, we ain't got no stinking purpose!! (With apologies to the Bogart movie "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre") Respectfully, Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 God has no purpose. He is not bound by any action. The world's activities cannot affect Him. Take the analogy of the sun. The sun rises without desire, purpose or effort, but as soon as it rises numerous activities take place on earth: the lens placed in its rays produces fire in its focus, the lotus bud opens, water evaporates, and every living creature enters upon activity, maintains it, and finally drops it. But the sun is not affected by any such activity, as it merely acts according to its nature, by fixed laws, without any purpose, and is only a witness. So it is with God. http://benegal.org//books/pos/pos010.html -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: [] På vegne av yosyx Sendt: 20. februar 2007 22:13 Til: Emne: a question harsha, michael, all: friends, what is the purpose of this gathering? respectfully yosy _()_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 , "Michael Bindel" <michael.bindel wrote: > > Dear Harsha > > do those for whom ADVAITA/NONDUALITY, GD, SELF, HEART, LOVE......is the essence of being need a reason for existence? > > Is it not enough to try to fill the gap between knowing it and living it moment to moment? what gap? true knowing is being. information without direct experience is self delusion, not knowledge. our moment to moment life is an expression of our knowledge. and our real message. > > Awaiting your esteemed answer.... > > > yours in GD > > michael > - > Harsha > > Wednesday, February 21, 2007 1:19 AM > Re: a question > > > Dear Yosy, > > This list has a certain charter and is meant to be a gathering of > devotees of Bhagavan or anyone interested in the yogic and meditative > paths, etc. I don't know what the ultimate purpose is of anything. > > All questions of purpose if pursued lead one to ask about the purpose of > existence. > > Why does existence exist? Because it is its nature. > > The questions of purpose and meaning and perception fundamentally > pertain to the mind. > > Existence does not depend on mind. > > It is through words and through the mind, one walks the path, however > imaginary; and reaches the state that is beyond purpose and meaning. > > It is pure Existence-Being. Complete. Whole. Content. Silent. Self > resting in It Self. One without a second. What could be its purpose > other than to be It Self. > > Words can only indicate it. Once in the Heart, One becomes the Heart. > > Love to all > Harsha > > yosyx wrote: > > harsha, michael, all: friends, what is > > the purpose of this gathering? > > > > respectfully > > yosy > > _()_ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Dear Yossi your answer is n o t an answer to my question..... regarding this answer: if you mean inner knowledge is only real if you life it momemt to moment than only Beings like Sri Ramana Maharsha do know.... but i certainly do not agree with you why? because you often KNOW how you should act nor not act but react in a way not authentic to your inner being because of vasanas..... if you feel and understand it in the moment you react "wrongly": of course you are not living your truth but at least you know it all the best and please do not evade to answer my question in GD michael - yosyx Thursday, February 22, 2007 8:36 PM Re: a question , "Michael Bindel" <michael.bindel wrote: > > Dear Harsha > > do those for whom ADVAITA/NONDUALITY, GD, SELF, HEART, LOVE......is the essence of being need a reason for existence? > > Is it not enough to try to fill the gap between knowing it and living it moment to moment? what gap? true knowing is being. information without direct experience is self delusion, not knowledge. our moment to moment life is an expression of our knowledge. and our real message. > > Awaiting your esteemed answer.... > > > yours in GD > > michael > - > Harsha > > Wednesday, February 21, 2007 1:19 AM > Re: a question > > > Dear Yosy, > > This list has a certain charter and is meant to be a gathering of > devotees of Bhagavan or anyone interested in the yogic and meditative > paths, etc. I don't know what the ultimate purpose is of anything. > > All questions of purpose if pursued lead one to ask about the purpose of > existence. > > Why does existence exist? Because it is its nature. > > The questions of purpose and meaning and perception fundamentally > pertain to the mind. > > Existence does not depend on mind. > > It is through words and through the mind, one walks the path, however > imaginary; and reaches the state that is beyond purpose and meaning. > > It is pure Existence-Being. Complete. Whole. Content. Silent. Self > resting in It Self. One without a second. What could be its purpose > other than to be It Self. > > Words can only indicate it. Once in the Heart, One becomes the Heart. > > Love to all > Harsha > > yosyx wrote: > > harsha, michael, all: friends, what is > > the purpose of this gathering? > > > > respectfully > > yosy > > _()_ > __________ Informazione NOD32 2075 (20070222) __________ Questo messaggio è stato controllato dal Sistema Antivirus NOD32 http://www.nod32.it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 , "Michael Bindel" <michael.bindel wrote: > > Dear Yosy > > could you please explain why you really want to know the purpose of this gathering???? usually gatherings serve a purpose; so the question arose... without any particular intent, nor expectation. meanwhile am enjoying the company of friends sharing common love to the inexplicable... whatever the purpose. > > Afterwards i would like to answer it in my way..... > please do.... > > respectfully > > michael > @}->,->'-- yosy > - > yosyx > > Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:12 PM > a question > > > > harsha, michael, all: friends, what is > the purpose of this gathering? > > respectfully > yosy > _()_ > > > > > > __________ Informazione NOD32 2072 (20070220) __________ > > Questo messaggio è stato controllato dal Sistema Antivirus NOD32 > http://www.nod32.it > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 , "Richard" <richarkar wrote: > > > > > - > > yosyx > > > > Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:12 PM > > a question > > > > > > > > harsha, michael, all: friends, what is > > the purpose of this gathering? > > > > respectfully > > yosy > > _()_ > > What is the purpose of a dog? No purpose, it just is. > > Asking about a purpose implies an ego trying to attain something > that isn't already here. > hehehe still, since there is a word "purpose", there is purpose to everything... even if the purpose is merely being itself. > We don't need no stinking purpose, we don't got to show you no > stinking purpose, we ain't got no stinking purpose!! (With apologies > to the Bogart movie "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre") > hahahaha wonderful! that's an acceptable answer! thank you! > Respectfully, > Richard > BOOM! yosy "speak to each according to their degree of understanding" (the prophet muhammad) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 , Alan <alan wrote: > > > God has no purpose. He is not bound by any action. The > world's activities cannot affect Him. Take the analogy of the sun. The sun > rises without desire, purpose or effort, but as soon as it rises numerous > activities take place on earth: the lens placed in its rays produces fire in > its focus, the lotus bud opens, water evaporates, and every living creature > enters upon activity, maintains it, and finally drops it. But the sun is not > affected by any such activity, as it merely acts according to its nature, by > fixed laws, without any purpose, and is only a witness. So it is with God. > > > http://benegal.org//books/pos/pos010.html > thank you, alan. jai ramana! > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > Fra: [] > På vegne av yosyx > Sendt: 20. februar 2007 22:13 > Til: > Emne: a question > > > harsha, michael, all: friends, what is > the purpose of this gathering? > > respectfully > yosy > _()_ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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