Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 , "Michael Bindel" <michael.bindel wrote: > > Dear Yossi > > your answer is n o t an answer to my question..... > > regarding this answer: > > > if you mean inner knowledge is only real if you life it momemt to moment than only Beings like Sri Ramana Maharsha do know.... > > but i certainly do not agree with you > > why? > > because you often KNOW how you should act nor not act but react in a way not authentic to your inner being this is what i mean by the difference between information and true knowledge. true knowledge is expressed in acting without any considerations and sense of doership. it happens while the information is fully absorbed and inocculated within, and becomes nature... until then, it is information only. > > because of vasanas..... yes. the vasanas are conditionings causing to react automatically from the feeling of identity of self with body/mind complex. true knowledge is in spite of the vasanas, which practically dissolve when it dawns. true knowledge is responding according to the real need of time and place, without personal considerations. > > if you feel and understand it in the moment you react "wrongly": right. as long as you act from the feeling of "i am the doer", 'you' are wrong. truth is expressed spontaneously, without personal considerations. > > of course you are not living your truth > but at least you know it you are, at every moment, living expression of YOUR truth, 'your take' of THE truth... and this lasts as long as there is something 'yours'. but in any case it is perfect. everything is just as it should be, my friend. > > all the best and please do not evade to answer my question > > > in GD > > michael i hope this helps... _()_ in love yosy > - > yosyx > > Thursday, February 22, 2007 8:36 PM > Re: a question > > > , "Michael Bindel" > <michael.bindel@> wrote: > > > > Dear Harsha > > > > do those for whom ADVAITA/NONDUALITY, GD, SELF, HEART, > LOVE......is the essence of being need a reason for existence? > > > > Is it not enough to try to fill the gap between knowing it and > living it moment to moment? > > what gap? true knowing is being. information > without direct experience is self delusion, > not knowledge. > our moment to moment life is an expression > of our knowledge. and our real message. > > > > > Awaiting your esteemed answer.... > > > > > > yours in GD > > > > michael > > - > > Harsha > > > > Wednesday, February 21, 2007 1:19 AM > > Re: a question > > > > > > Dear Yosy, > > > > This list has a certain charter and is meant to be a gathering of > > devotees of Bhagavan or anyone interested in the yogic and > meditative > > paths, etc. I don't know what the ultimate purpose is of anything. > > > > All questions of purpose if pursued lead one to ask about the > purpose of > > existence. > > > > Why does existence exist? Because it is its nature. > > > > The questions of purpose and meaning and perception fundamentally > > pertain to the mind. > > > > Existence does not depend on mind. > > > > It is through words and through the mind, one walks the path, > however > > imaginary; and reaches the state that is beyond purpose and > meaning. > > > > It is pure Existence-Being. Complete. Whole. Content. Silent. > Self > > resting in It Self. One without a second. What could be its > purpose > > other than to be It Self. > > > > Words can only indicate it. Once in the Heart, One becomes the > Heart. > > > > Love to all > > Harsha > > > > yosyx wrote: > > > harsha, michael, all: friends, what is > > > the purpose of this gathering? > > > > > > respectfully > > > yosy > > > _()_ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Dear Yossy yes it did help yes everything is like it must be even Shoa - this inner knowledge helped michael to understand so the difference between inner knowledge and not acting accordingly: i agree with you loosing the feeling of being the doer: this is whats "going on" now in this person please accept my gratitude! in love michael - yosyx Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:53 PM Re: a question / michael , "Michael Bindel" <michael.bindel wrote: > > Dear Yossi > > your answer is n o t an answer to my question..... > > regarding this answer: > > > if you mean inner knowledge is only real if you life it momemt to moment than only Beings like Sri Ramana Maharsha do know.... > > but i certainly do not agree with you > > why? > > because you often KNOW how you should act nor not act but react in a way not authentic to your inner being this is what i mean by the difference between information and true knowledge. true knowledge is expressed in acting without any considerations and sense of doership. it happens while the information is fully absorbed and inocculated within, and becomes nature... until then, it is information only. > > because of vasanas..... yes. the vasanas are conditionings causing to react automatically from the feeling of identity of self with body/mind complex. true knowledge is in spite of the vasanas, which practically dissolve when it dawns. true knowledge is responding according to the real need of time and place, without personal considerations. > > if you feel and understand it in the moment you react "wrongly": right. as long as you act from the feeling of "i am the doer", 'you' are wrong. truth is expressed spontaneously, without personal considerations. > > of course you are not living your truth > but at least you know it you are, at every moment, living expression of YOUR truth, 'your take' of THE truth... and this lasts as long as there is something 'yours'. but in any case it is perfect. everything is just as it should be, my friend. > > all the best and please do not evade to answer my question > > > in GD > > michael i hope this helps... _()_ in love yosy > - > yosyx > > Thursday, February 22, 2007 8:36 PM > Re: a question > > > , "Michael Bindel" > <michael.bindel@> wrote: > > > > Dear Harsha > > > > do those for whom ADVAITA/NONDUALITY, GD, SELF, HEART, > LOVE......is the essence of being need a reason for existence? > > > > Is it not enough to try to fill the gap between knowing it and > living it moment to moment? > > what gap? true knowing is being. information > without direct experience is self delusion, > not knowledge. > our moment to moment life is an expression > of our knowledge. and our real message. > > > > > Awaiting your esteemed answer.... > > > > > > yours in GD > > > > michael > > - > > Harsha > > > > Wednesday, February 21, 2007 1:19 AM > > Re: a question > > > > > > Dear Yosy, > > > > This list has a certain charter and is meant to be a gathering of > > devotees of Bhagavan or anyone interested in the yogic and > meditative > > paths, etc. I don't know what the ultimate purpose is of anything. > > > > All questions of purpose if pursued lead one to ask about the > purpose of > > existence. > > > > Why does existence exist? Because it is its nature. > > > > The questions of purpose and meaning and perception fundamentally > > pertain to the mind. > > > > Existence does not depend on mind. > > > > It is through words and through the mind, one walks the path, > however > > imaginary; and reaches the state that is beyond purpose and > meaning. > > > > It is pure Existence-Being. Complete. Whole. Content. Silent. > Self > > resting in It Self. One without a second. What could be its > purpose > > other than to be It Self. > > > > Words can only indicate it. Once in the Heart, One becomes the > Heart. > > > > Love to all > > Harsha > > > > yosyx wrote: > > > harsha, michael, all: friends, what is > > > the purpose of this gathering? > > > > > > respectfully > > > yosy > > > _()_ > > __________ Informazione NOD32 2085 (20070228) __________ Questo messaggio è stato controllato dal Sistema Antivirus NOD32 http://www.nod32.it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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