Guest guest Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 jai mataji' I have received the Srividya Upadesan from our Guru. If I am doing the JABAM I feel as flying, somthing spread from my spine to brain. If I chant Soundarya lahari, Abirami Andathi and Lalith sahasranamam I am having the same feeling, as flying in the breeze. If I go to temple also I feel the same, I want to know whether it is good. Please clarify my doubt. I am sincerely doing the Jabam for the last 6 months only. Please guide me. with namaskaram Abirami Gopal. ________ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Nothing wrong there. Anyhow, if one has a doubt, their Guru is the best recourse to clarify it and guide them. , abirama sundari <abi.aparna wrote: > > jai mataji' I have received the Srividya Upadesan from our Guru. If I am doing the JABAM I feel as flying, somthing spread from my spine to brain. If I chant Soundarya lahari, Abirami Andathi and Lalith sahasranamam I am having the same feeling, as flying in the breeze. If I go to temple also I feel the same, I want to know whether it is good. Please clarify my doubt. I am sincerely doing the Jabam for the last 6 months only. Please guide me. > with namaskaram > Abirami Gopal. > > > > ________ > India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new > http://in.answers./ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Kundalini is often drifty feeling. But also one can get that floaty feeling if they rock while they do practice - the rocking motion makes the blood flow a bit different. [] On Behalf Of ganpra Saturday, February 17, 2007 7:36 AM Re: doubt Nothing wrong there. Anyhow, if one has a doubt, their Guru is the best recourse to clarify it and guide them. , abirama sundari <abi.aparna wrote: > > jai mataji' I have received the Srividya Upadesan from our Guru. If I am doing the JABAM I feel as flying, somthing spread from my spine to brain. If I chant Soundarya lahari, Abirami Andathi and Lalith sahasranamam I am having the same feeling, as flying in the breeze. If I go to temple also I feel the same, I want to know whether it is good. Please clarify my doubt. I am sincerely doing the Jabam for the last 6 months only. Please guide me. > with namaskaram > Abirami Gopal. > > > > ________ > India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new > http://in.answers./ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 My dear Abirami, If you have such experiences as described by you, my obeisance to thee; thou art none but Devi Herself. Om Namas Tripurasundari JR abirama sundari <abi.aparna (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: jai mataji' I have received the Srividya Upadesan from our Guru. If I am doing the JABAM I feel as flying, somthing spread from my spine to brain. If I chant Soundarya lahari, Abirami Andathi and Lalith sahasranamam I am having the same feeling, as flying in the breeze. If I go to temple also I feel the same, I want to know whether it is good. Please clarify my doubt. I am sincerely doing the Jabam for the last 6 months only. Please guide me. with namaskaram Abirami Gopal. ________ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 That is why, for learners, while doing sadhana (mantra japam or chanting LSN/SL), it is said that: 1. Do not let your body to sway. 2. Do not scratch your nose/face/ears. 3. Do not pick your toe nails (Yes, specifically toe nails!!). In general, keep hands where they belong and be aware of surroundings - in general, keep kundalini where it belongs and not dissipate by subconscious stimuli. Being aware of what is going around also helps in closing the spiritual door to unwanted/undesired energies/beings that generally prevail all around. Advantage of having a Guru is, all the unwanted/undesired energies are already filtered off, while being initiated. But, there is always a chance of something happening on the way, while away from the Guru (spiritually). Generally, when the learner experiences kundalini and the associated minor siddhis, it feeds the ego and tests the practioner. That is why, it is very much advised to keep well in touch with him/her, until the sadhaka can be on their own without the ego. A member of my family used to "see" things just as they were nodding off to sleep. Things, that would offer control/prayogams over/on others and was worried. A seer advised them, "Well and good! Just ignore them. If they know that you see them, they will tempt you with the powers they can offer and take you off the path. They will keep bothering you until you yield" This was continued by another seer (w/o any prompting from us), whom we met when I was in chennai in Jan 07, that "Always pray to your Acharyan before and after sadhana. Pray to him to guide you and pray to correct the mistakes in your chanting/worship and offer them to HER (spiritual courier service, putting in lightheartedly). Because people do make mistakes during sadhana and only Guru has the power/benevolence to correct them and offer them to the devatha in a proper way." Since Guru cannot be physically present everytime, praying to him/her is the solution. Guru will filter out the undesirable by that mere thought of him/her. , "llundrub" <llundrub wrote: > > Kundalini is often drifty feeling. But also one can get that floaty feeling if they rock while they do practice - the rocking motion makes the blood flow a bit different. > > > [] > On Behalf Of ganpra > Saturday, February 17, 2007 7:36 AM > > Re: doubt > > Nothing wrong there. > > Anyhow, if one has a doubt, their Guru is the best recourse to > clarify it and guide them. > > , abirama sundari > <abi.aparna@> wrote: > > > > jai mataji' I have received the Srividya Upadesan from our Guru. If > I am doing the JABAM I feel as flying, somthing spread from my spine > to brain. If I chant Soundarya lahari, Abirami Andathi and Lalith > sahasranamam I am having the same feeling, as flying in the breeze. > If I go to temple also I feel the same, I want to know whether it is > good. Please clarify my doubt. I am sincerely doing the Jabam for the > last 6 months only. Please guide me. > > with namaskaram > > Abirami Gopal. > > > > > > > > ________ > > India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new > > http://in.answers./ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Dont think i introduced myself I am Debra but go by my kemetic name Seshmet. I have been getting a pull toward hinduism beliefs for sometimes now and finally gave in, LOL. I am here to learn and hopefully get some answers to my question answered. I have a few below. I am new at this but do find when chanting or even getting pranic healing a swaying of my body during it, so you are saying not do it, what if it seems uncontrolable? I have been seeing things for years in the corners of my eyes like sparkles, dark figures, or dark small things I have agnored them because they never bothered me really sometimes i have wondered what they were tho. Question: Hypothically, What would you say if you heard a voice only in your right ear whispering in your ear to you but no one is there and they are not always right in what they say or predict to you? what do you think it might be? Ghost, higher self, or mind playing tricks on you something else? Seshmet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Namaskaar When there is a clear channel for energy to flow from spine to brain there is a connection of energy that manifests first as a pulsating feeling, culminating as a feeling of just being (no feeling), depending on the level of energy flowing. Just try to be aware, there is no Good or bad this is only mental conditioning, try to be aware of what thoughts come to your mind and how and what you feel intuitionally. Best Regards Devindra Maharaj abirama sundari <abi.aparna (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: jai mataji' I have received the Srividya Upadesan from our Guru. If I am doing the JABAM I feel as flying, somthing spread from my spine to brain. If I chant Soundarya lahari, Abirami Andathi and Lalith sahasranamam I am having the same feeling, as flying in the breeze. If I go to temple also I feel the same, I want to know whether it is good. Please clarify my doubt. I am sincerely doing the Jabam for the last 6 months only. Please guide me. with namaskaram Abirami Gopal. Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Answers Food & Drink Q&A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Hello Seshmet I wish to share some comments on your questions _______________ I am new at this but do find when chanting or even getting pranic healing a swaying of my body during it, so you are saying not do it, what if it seems uncontrolable? This uncontrollable feeling is due to the state of your energy (which appears to be quite low at present ), when Ma becomes awakened in you, you will find that you tend to sway more, (as the energy is attempting to clear out blockages in your system - chakras and nadis ). This is a small amount of her energy that you are exposed to . When she overpowers you (a much larger dose of her energy), you will become absolutely still, your breath may even be stopped. ____________-___ I have been seeing things for years in the corners of my eyes like sparkles, dark figures, or dark small things I have agnored them because they never bothered me really sometimes i have wondered what they were tho. These are generally astral entities that you are able to perceive _______________ Question: Hypothically, What would you say if you heard a voice only in your right ear whispering in your ear to you but no one is there and they are not always right in what they say or predict to you? what do you think it might be? Ghost, higher self, or mind playing tricks on you something else? This is a spirit guide ( male entity ) who is attempting to guide you as part of Ma's work. They are not always right because of four factors (mainly) 1) The grade of the spirit doing such predictions is important as lower level spirits tend to be wrong frequently whereas higher grade spirits are almost always right. 2) Many times when they are speaking to you, your mind is not attuned to them and so you are not able to hear what they are saying, by not following their complete guidance this results in a change of what they initially predicted (or what you were able to hear). 3) What is predicted is based upon reading your energy at a particular point in time, due to the fact that you can encounter negative or positive energy fields which can change your vibration, this in turn affects the way a particular event unfolds for you. 4) Bearing in mind that what you are hearing is when your mind is still and in a particular state of consciousness, When you have changes in thinking e.g. depression, irrational thought etc.. this also affects the outcome of what was initially perceived (based on your energy). usually when Ma is speaking, it will be in your physical heart or Anahata (Heart) Chakra. When your higher self or a Devata is speaking it will be on your right side at about the same level as your heart. Whenever you hear this voice again, take your right hand and gently place above your crown chakra (about 2-3 inches) and slowly close your hand (about halfway). You may notice a feeling like a soft puffy field of air. That is the body of the spirit ! WARNING - DO NOT SQUEEZE TIGHTLY . If you anger the spirit, you may get a not too friendly response that may be physically painful to you. Reason I know about this, is that I have encountered the same also. Best Regards Devindra Maharaj Seshmet <zirafox9 > wrote: Dont think i introduced myself I am Debra but go by my kemetic name Seshmet. I have been getting a pull toward hinduism beliefs for sometimes now and finally gave in, LOL. I am here to learn and hopefully get some answers to my question answered. I have a few below. I am new at this but do find when chanting or even getting pranic healing a swaying of my body during it, so you are saying not do it, what if it seems uncontrolable? I have been seeing things for years in the corners of my eyes like sparkles, dark figures, or dark small things I have agnored them because they never bothered me really sometimes i have wondered what they were tho. Question: Hypothically, What would you say if you heard a voice only in your right ear whispering in your ear to you but no one is there and they are not always right in what they say or predict to you? what do you think it might be? Ghost, higher self, or mind playing tricks on you something else? Seshmet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Swaying of the body like tall grass in the wind does happen and very frequently. That is why there is a specific advise from Srividya Gurus for that, as mentioned in my previous post. Regarding dark figues, it is the correct thing to ignore them. General rule of the thumb is, if it is the Devatha, it will not be visible to the naked eye, even in the peripheral vision. Regarding the hypothetical situation: If it happens during chanting, will be better to do the kara + anga nyasa consistent with the mantra, there by invoke dhik bandhanam and see if it still happens. Depending on the mantra, it could be anything...devatha, a Guru in astral form (who had left the physical body), nasties drawn to the practitioner. To discern is to learn. Better to get advise from a "real" Guru. , Seshmet <zirafox9 wrote: > > Dont think i introduced myself I am Debra but go by my kemetic name Seshmet. I have been getting a pull toward hinduism beliefs for sometimes now and finally gave in, LOL. I am here to learn and hopefully get some answers to my question answered. I have a few below. > > I am new at this but do find when chanting or even getting pranic healing a swaying of my body during it, so you are saying not do it, what if it seems uncontrolable? I have been seeing things for years in the corners of my eyes like sparkles, dark figures, or dark small things I have agnored them because they never bothered me really sometimes i have wondered what they were tho. > Question: Hypothically, What would you say if you heard a voice only in your right ear whispering in your ear to you but no one is there and they are not always right in what they say or predict to you? what do you think it might be? Ghost, higher self, or mind playing tricks on you something else? > > Seshmet > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 "Pandit Devindra Maharaj" The great King of Creepy Advices is back. Haven´t you been removed from this list on your own request back in September 2005? What was the problem that caused that? Anybody remember the exact circumstances? Wasnt it because of a continual series of posting of unsound und unasked for advices ? Maha Hrada , Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj wrote: > > Hello Seshmet > > I wish to share some comments on your questions > _______________ > > I am new at this but do find when chanting or even getting pranic healing a swaying of my body during it, so you are saying not do it, what if it seems uncontrolable? > > This uncontrollable feeling is due to the state of your energy (which appears to be > quite low at present ), when Ma becomes awakened in you, you will find that you > tend to sway more, (as the energy is attempting to clear out blockages in your > system - chakras and nadis ). This is a small amount of her energy that you are > exposed to . When she overpowers you (a much larger dose of her energy), you > will become absolutely still, your breath may even be stopped. > ____________-___ > > I have been seeing things for years in the corners of my eyes like sparkles, dark figures, or dark small things I have agnored them because they never bothered me really sometimes i have wondered what they were tho. > > These are generally astral entities that you are able to perceive > _______________ > > Question: Hypothically, What would you say if you heard a voice only in your right ear whispering in your ear to you but no one is there and they are not always right in what they say or predict to you? what do you think it might be? Ghost, higher self, or mind playing tricks on you something else? > > This is a spirit guide ( male entity ) who is attempting to guide you as part of Ma's work. They are not always right because of four factors (mainly) > > 1) The grade of the spirit doing such predictions is important as lower level spirits tend to be wrong frequently whereas higher grade spirits are almost always right. > > 2) Many times when they are speaking to you, your mind is not attuned to them > and so you are not able to hear what they are saying, by not following their complete guidance this results in a change of what they initially predicted > (or what you were able to hear). > > 3) What is predicted is based upon reading your energy at a particular point in > time, due to the fact that you can encounter negative or positive energy fields > which can change your vibration, this in turn affects the way a particular > event unfolds for you. > > 4) Bearing in mind that what you are hearing is when your mind is still and in a > particular state of consciousness, When you have changes in thinking e.g. > depression, irrational thought etc.. this also affects the outcome of what was > initially perceived (based on your energy). > > usually when Ma is speaking, it will be in your physical heart or Anahata (Heart) Chakra. When your higher self or a Devata is speaking it will be on your right side at about the same level as your heart. > > Whenever you hear this voice again, take your right hand and gently place above your crown chakra (about 2-3 inches) and slowly close your hand (about halfway). > You may notice a feeling like a soft puffy field of air. That is the body of the spirit ! > > WARNING - DO NOT SQUEEZE TIGHTLY . If you anger the spirit, you may get a not too friendly response that may be physically painful to you. > > Reason I know about this, is that I have encountered the same also. > > Best Regards > Devindra Maharaj > > > Seshmet <zirafox9 wrote: Dont think i introduced myself I am Debra but go by my kemetic name Seshmet. I have been getting a pull toward hinduism beliefs for sometimes now and finally gave in, LOL. I am here to learn and hopefully get some answers to my question answered. I have a few below. > > I am new at this but do find when chanting or even getting pranic healing a swaying of my body during it, so you are saying not do it, what if it seems uncontrolable? I have been seeing things for years in the corners of my eyes like sparkles, dark figures, or dark small things I have agnored them because they never bothered me really sometimes i have wondered what they were tho. > Question: Hypothically, What would you say if you heard a voice only in your right ear whispering in your ear to you but no one is there and they are not always right in what they say or predict to you? what do you think it might be? Ghost, higher self, or mind playing tricks on you something else? > > Seshmet > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Unfortunately life has given me a healthy dose of skepticism, so if you dont mind, I'd like to share my opinions on this matter. I think its important to first discuss issues pertinent to placebo effects and also certain psycho-physiological effects that may lead to such experiences. The human mind is a very powerful tool, and make us feel pain even without stimuli, so basically how does one know that their experiences isnt primarily placebo? My parampara Gurus all are academics and all strongly believe in the reproducibility of effects of certain spiritual phenomena, within our group there are tried and tested methods between Guru and Shishya- Validation is of utmost importance! I think it is imperative one have a competent master who can discern fact from fiction. A second more serious issue that a lot of practitioners face are physiological or genetic predispositions to nervous pathologies such as going into trances, "out of body" experiences and visions. Its a common sight in many village temples to see people go in a trance like state on account of rhythmic music. MRIs had indicated lesions in the higher brain that may be the cause of such an event. This was primarily witnessed in communities from underdeveloped nations that also seem to have consanguinity amongst parents. Back when I was a freshman, there was significant build up on this field, dunno if the researchers pursued a cure. So before one thinks their experiences are spiritual I think it is important to rule out notions of pathology by rationalizing the events that took place, by consulting experts who may know a greater deal about such effects and also take proper medical advice. I personally followed through with this advice, that is why I am passing it on. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Yes, back when I started talking to Devi I said, "Everybody will think I'm crazy! Please go away Devi!" But after awhile talking to Her, and chanting in the marketplace, and at work, and then sometimes I blurt out things like, "Thanks Everybody! Talking to the Devis." Out loud, and I know I must be mad as a hatter because I am talking to multiple beings which are invisible to everybody else but plain as day to me, and talking to them sometimes in the plural. Which seems to others like talking to myself or about all of us in the plural, and yes, it makes me a whack job. But after awhile people just respect it and consider it a necessary personality trait, and if I'm nice then we all get kudos. Right Devis? So what? This is the real thing - society is a bunch of fragile egos and control hungry hierarchists. Society is nonsense. Society exists merely until the next tornado, hurricane, tsunami, or earthquake or until Ma feel like shrugging. At the very least society is a mental concept defined in part but never in full because we die before we have a chance at real lasting success. You can build one Taj but never get a chance to finish the black one. Three pyramids are not enough people to have rolled over, we must have five! People might as well be trancing and dancing madly in a possessed state. It is all Mahakali. While I might raise my snoot about it, I still think it's neat and beautiful. I could fall in love with a simple village girl, but then society wouldn't have either of us, we would both be cast out. Society sucks! Sometimes. I think. What do I know. I've been firmly ensconced in this society since I was born. If I was on the outside of society I would still have been born from it. [] On Behalf Of kartik gaurav Monday, February 19, 2007 2:19 AM Re: Re: doubt Unfortunately life has given me a healthy dose of skepticism, so if you dont mind, I'd like to share my opinions on this matter. I think its important to first discuss issues pertinent to placebo effects and also certain psycho-physiological effects that may lead to such experiences. The human mind is a very powerful tool, and make us feel pain even without stimuli, so basically how does one know that their experiences isnt primarily placebo? My parampara Gurus all are academics and all strongly believe in the reproducibility of effects of certain spiritual phenomena, within our group there are tried and tested methods between Guru and Shishya- Validation is of utmost importance! I think it is imperative one have a competent master who can discern fact from fiction. A second more serious issue that a lot of practitioners face are physiological or genetic predispositions to nervous pathologies such as going into trances, "out of body" experiences and visions. Its a common sight in many village temples to see people go in a trance like state on account of rhythmic music. MRIs had indicated lesions in the higher brain that may be the cause of such an event. This was primarily witnessed in communities from underdeveloped nations that also seem to have consanguinity amongst parents. Back when I was a freshman, there was significant build up on this field, dunno if the researchers pursued a cure. So before one thinks their experiences are spiritual I think it is important to rule out notions of pathology by rationalizing the events that took place, by consulting experts who may know a greater deal about such effects and also take proper medical advice. I personally followed through with this advice, that is why I am passing it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 He's just a bit mad, don't mind him. His life was bad. That's not his sin. If he could change it would be foremost. But if he can't then raise a toast. [] On Behalf Of mahahradanatha Sunday, February 18, 2007 3:19 PM Re: doubt "Pandit Devindra Maharaj" The great King of Creepy Advices is back. Haven´t you been removed from this list on your own request back in September 2005? What was the problem that caused that? Anybody remember the exact circumstances? Wasnt it because of a continual series of posting of unsound und unasked for advices ? Maha Hrada , Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj wrote: > > Hello Seshmet > > I wish to share some comments on your questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 I see you are warm and humble as ever mahahradanatha <mahahradanatha > wrote: "Pandit Devindra Maharaj" The great King of Creepy Advices is back. Haven´t you been removed from this list on your own request back in September 2005? What was the problem that caused that? Anybody remember the exact circumstances? Wasnt it because of a continual series of posting of unsound und unasked for advices ? Maha Hrada , Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj wrote: > > Hello Seshmet > > I wish to share some comments on your questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Next time you talk to Devi, tell her I said hi and that dinner is getting cold. llundrub <llundrub (AT) cox (DOT) net> Tuesday, 20 February, 2007 2:15:35 AM RE: Re: doubt Yes, back when I started talking to Devi I said, "Everybody will think I'm crazy! Please go away Devi!" But after awhile talking to Her, and chanting in the marketplace, and at work, and then sometimes I blurt out things like, "Thanks Everybody! Talking to the Devis." Out loud, and I know I must be mad as a hatter because I am talking to multiple beings which are invisible to everybody else but plain as day to me, and talking to them sometimes in the plural. Which seems to others like talking to myself or about all of us in the plural, and yes, it makes me a whack job. But after awhile people just respect it and consider it a necessary personality trait, and if I'm nice then we all get kudos. Right Devis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 She says that's because you're a shitty cook. - "kartik gaurav" <omkaaraya .au> <> Monday, February 19, 2007 11:06 AM Re: Re: doubt > Next time you talk to Devi, tell her I said hi and that dinner is getting > cold. > > > llundrub <llundrub (AT) cox (DOT) net> > > Tuesday, 20 February, 2007 2:15:35 AM > RE: Re: doubt > > > > Yes, back when I started talking to Devi I said, "Everybody > will think I'm > > crazy! Please go away Devi!" But after awhile talking to Her, and chanting > > in the marketplace, and at work, and then sometimes I blurt out things > like, > > "Thanks Everybody! Talking to the Devis." Out loud, and I know I must be > mad > > as a hatter because I am talking to multiple beings which are invisible to > > everybody else but plain as day to me, and talking to them sometimes in > the > > plural. Which seems to others like talking to myself or about all of us in > > the plural, and yes, it makes me a whack job. But after awhile people just > > respect it and consider it a necessary personality trait, and if I'm nice > > then we all get kudos. Right Devis? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 , Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj wrote: > > I see you are warm and humble as ever > It is nice of you to care about my virtues, it gives me more leisure to concentrate on the more important issues. I am not a moderator here, just a regular poster, nonetheless i take the liberty to remind you that the title of this List is not "Shakti Sadhana" subtitle: "Here you can listen to eastern and western new age Internet Gurus of all Hindu Denominations giving free advice" but it is meant for discussion and exchange of information related to Shakti Sadhana. I suggest that if you feel the urge to give general "Guru" advice why don´t you mail it to the person concerned and that way keep the discussion in this list free of it, to allow undisturbed exchange on shakta issues? MahaHrada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 sure I'll take your advice and when I feel I need it will follow it too mahahradanatha <mahahradanatha > wrote: , Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj wrote: > > I see you are warm and humble as ever > It is nice of you to care about my virtues, it gives me more leisure to concentrate on the more important issues. I am not a moderator here, just a regular poster, nonetheless i take the liberty to remind you that the title of this List is not "Shakti Sadhana" subtitle: "Here you can listen to eastern and western new age Internet Gurus of all Hindu Denominations giving free advice" but it is meant for discussion and exchange of information related to Shakti Sadhana. I suggest that if you feel the urge to give general "Guru" advice why don´t you mail it to the person concerned and that way keep the discussion in this list free of it, to allow undisturbed exchange on shakta issues? MahaHrada Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 , "mahahradanatha" <mahahradanatha wrote: > > > "Pandit Devindra Maharaj" The great King of Creepy Advices is back. > > Haven´t you been removed from this list on your own request back in > September 2005? > > What was the problem that caused that? Anybody remember the exact > circumstances? Wasnt it because of a continual series of posting of > unsound und unasked for advices ? > > Maha Hrada > I think its because of me because I said DEVI as the lover is the highest form of Devotion [here I go again !]. LOL. And in your private letter you did mention that Nora and Kochu is nothing as compared to him who is more knowledgeable as the name suggest A Pandit, am I not correct Pandit Devindra Maharaj. Both Kochu and me still around and still the moderator of this group, are you aware of it? You see how compassionate and forgiving we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 I rejoined with the hope that this kind of thing was long past and that we wouldn't be dwelling on these types of things, if you feel that this is unreasonable then I suggest you remove me from the group once again as I have no intention of carrying on petty squabbles over things that are generally inconsequential and of no value. I came to learn and also to share information regards Devi and that is the level I would like to keep it at. I would very much like to discuss issues in Shaktism and not personalities please. Regards Devindra Maharaj NMadasamy <nmadasamy (AT) nmadasamy (DOT) com> wrote: , "mahahradanatha" <mahahradanatha wrote: > > > "Pandit Devindra Maharaj" The great King of Creepy Advices is back. > > Haven´t you been removed from this list on your own request back in > September 2005? > > What was the problem that caused that? Anybody remember the exact > circumstances? Wasnt it because of a continual series of posting of > unsound und unasked for advices ? > > Maha Hrada > I think its because of me because I said DEVI as the lover is the highest form of Devotion [here I go again !]. LOL. And in your private letter you did mention that Nora and Kochu is nothing as compared to him who is more knowledgeable as the name suggest A Pandit, am I not correct Pandit Devindra Maharaj. Both Kochu and me still around and still the moderator of this group, are you aware of it? You see how compassionate and forgiving we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 , "NMadasamy" <nmadasamy wrote: > > , "mahahradanatha" > <mahahradanatha@> wrote: > > > > > > "Pandit Devindra Maharaj" The great King of Creepy Advices is back. > > > > Haven´t you been removed from this list on your own request back > in > > September 2005? > > > > What was the problem that caused that? Anybody remember the exact > > circumstances? Wasnt it because of a continual series of posting > of > > unsound und unasked for advices ? > > > > Maha Hrada > > > > > I think its because of me because I said DEVI as the lover is the > highest form of Devotion [here I go again !]. LOL. > Yes you are right that was some turmoil. > And in your private letter you did mention that Nora and Kochu is > nothing as compared to him who is more knowledgeable as the name > suggest A Pandit. Now don´t joke like that you are so cruel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Dear Divine , Of late i find that the purpose for which this group was started is not achieving its objectives. Instead of care and share, we are perhaps trying to put in arguments and counter arguments which only confuses the divine approach to reality. Can we not share our experience and knowledge with every one, so that there is absolute harmony instead of confrontation of thought, deed and action. Every Guru has his own way of approach and this will have to be respected. Wherever there is commonality, then that should be appreciated and shared. If there is some mistakes here and there these should be corrected for the benefit of one and all. Let me not be taken as a confrontonist but a person with 50 years experience in Srividhya who wants to share everything of divine nature with everyone. Regards, S.SHANGARANARAYANAN Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj > Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:41:37 PM Re: Re: doubt I rejoined with the hope that this kind of thing was long past and that we wouldn't be dwelling on these types of things, if you feel that this is unreasonable then I suggest you remove me from the group once again as I have no intention of carrying on petty squabbles over things that are generally inconsequential and of no value. I came to learn and also to share information regards Devi and that is the level I would like to keep it at. I would very much like to discuss issues in Shaktism and not personalities please. Regards Devindra Maharaj NMadasamy <nmadasamy@nmadasamy .com> wrote: , "mahahradanatha" <mahahradanatha@ ...> wrote: > > > "Pandit Devindra Maharaj" The great King of Creepy Advices is back. > > Haven´t you been removed from this list on your own request back in > September 2005? > > What was the problem that caused that? Anybody remember the exact > circumstances? Wasnt it because of a continual series of posting of > unsound und unasked for advices ? > > Maha Hrada > I think its because of me because I said DEVI as the lover is the highest form of Devotion [here I go again !]. LOL. And in your private letter you did mention that Nora and Kochu is nothing as compared to him who is more knowledgeable as the name suggest A Pandit, am I not correct Pandit Devindra Maharaj. Both Kochu and me still around and still the moderator of this group, are you aware of it? You see how compassionate and forgiving we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 , sangar narayanan <mackro1932 wrote: > > Dear Divine , > > Of late i find that the purpose for which this group was started is not achieving its objectives. Instead of care and share, we are perhaps trying to put in arguments and counter arguments which only confuses the divine approach to reality. Can we not share our experience and knowledge with every one, so that there is absolute harmony instead of confrontation of thought, deed and action. Every Guru has his own way of approach and this will have to be respected. Wherever there is commonality, then that should be appreciated and shared. If there is some mistakes here and there these should be corrected for the benefit of one and all. Let me not be taken as a confrontonist but a person with 50 years experience in Srividhya who wants to share everything of divine nature with everyone. > Regards, > S.SHANGARANARAYANAN YOu think so we have not achieve the objectives of this group. As being one of the founding members of this group let me refresh you our group statement of purpose [ as displayed in our homepage ]: "One of the primary purposes of this Group is to counterbalance this incorrect perception by providing accurate, detailed and truthful information about Shaktism. In fact, almost all spiritual systems are expected to fetch siddhis. Shaktas are simply supposed to get them easier and faster. In Shaktism also, the basic concept is merger with the absolute even while living in the world, without renunciation. In fact it is said this is the ONLY path that offers both Bhukti (worldly happiness) and Mukti (spirtual liberation). Those with narrower approaches to Shakta systems have sometimes disagreed with our efforts in this Group, saying that we reveal too much that should remain secret, or that we allow the discussion to stray too far from (their) standard interpretations. Our response is always the same: Theirs is only one possible understanding of Shaktism -- even within the SriVidya system itself. It is an excellent and admirable understanding, but it is still only one of many valid possibilities. Our goal is to encourage open debate and discussion of Shaktism, whether positive or negative, in the belief that the best cure for ignorance, misunderstanding, and -- above all -- misinformation, is a frank discourse between people who truly love Devi, and have chosen to approach the Ultimate Divine through Her myriad forms. Moreover, and fundamentally, we want to provide the tools necessary for those who want not merely to discuss Shaktism, but to actually PRACTICE it in a manner appropriate to their circumstances and development." Now one thing that we NEVER NEVER do is to publicly tell others : Vamachara or those who are not inline with our practices are not welcome here. If you should be aware theres a lot of Vira's here. Its our nature. We like to argue and to fight. If anybody wants to join in, they are welcome, if not then stay aside, or you will get yourself hurt. Ah! you mention harmony. Lovely word. Just like the churning of the ocean. What happen after the storm. Calm, peace and harmony. That is the true nature of the mother earth. Why deny it? So my take is, the stirring of the nest is good once in a while. If you see the good that emerge from all of this, then good will surface. Lets not be hypcrate and pretend shall we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 , Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj wrote: > > I rejoined with the hope that this kind of thing was long past and that we wouldn't be dwelling on these types of things, if you feel that this is unreasonable then I suggest you remove me from the group once again as I have no intention of carrying on petty squabbles over things that are generally inconsequential and of no value. I came to learn and also to share information regards Devi and that is the level I would like to keep it at. I would very much like to discuss issues in Shaktism and not personalities please. > > Regards Devindra Maharaj > Hey Look at this : Feb 4, 2007 10:19 pm dev_maharaj <dev_maharaj (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> Membership request approved by thegoddessisinme2002 <nmadasamy (AT) nmadasamy (DOT) com> via web You see I am the one who approve your joining the group even though I know who you are. Why do you think? Because I believe in giving somebody a second chance even though I know abt the nasty things you have said about me. I thought you have learn something and have change. yes! lets not go into personalities. But I do have problem when somebody comes here talk about humility but in his mind like to believe or wants others to believe that he is above and better than others. You come here at your own free will as such you will leave on your own accord. If you know how to get in, you should know how to get out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 , "mahahradanatha" <mahahradanatha wrote: Now don´t joke like that you are so cruel... > ...... I am when im nuts. All this MA MA Ma MA all over drives me nuts. Sound more like a lost sheep! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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