Guest guest Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 Jai Gurudev, When we see something significant in our selves, it is a major flaw. If we see smartness in our self (such as - I know the Gita by heart, I have an in-depth understanding of the meaning and ex-pressions of the Gita etc), or if we see spiritual goodness in us, (e.g. I worship God, I meditate, I chant devotional songs, I repeat His holy name etc), or anything great that we see in our self, it is all egotism. By whatever means we find something special in our self, that is egotism. This egoism can come due to one's caste, color, creed, stage in life, knowledge, intelligence and many other forms of arrogance and conceit. It is different forms of pride that can lead to one's downfall. Thinking that we have - good qualities, desirable abilities, knowledge, smartness, articulation etc. is egotism. Such egotism coming from goodness is dangerous and difficult to get rid off. With respect to "Egotism" it has been said in Ramayana - "Sansrut mool soolprad naanan, sakal sauk daayak abhimaana." (Manasa 7:74:3) All devilish tendencies, bad qualities, evil actions, operate under the umbrella of "Egotism." (arrogance, conceit). The more effort we put into getting rid of this egotism, the more it becomes firmly established. The more ways that we find to wipe out the pride and arrogance, the solutions themselves will increase our egotism. It is truly very difficult to get rid of Egotism. A spiritual aspirant must keep in mind that whatever good qualities he has, are not his own, rather they have come from God. Being a part of God, the Self (Atma) is flawless and without qualities. Therefore those great qualities should be understood as being God's, not ours. By believing and understanding with a firm resolve that these good qualities are all God's, there will be no egotism. This pride and arrogance cannot be rooted out by our self, it needs the grace of God. On this subject a spiritual aspirant must remain very vigilant. Gurusevak, Manoj Gilda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 Dearest Prabhu, This was such a helpful post for me. Sometimes sadhana seems to be entertainment of the ego rather than diminishing the ego. My husband tells me that while sadhana will destroy anarthas,vrittis and samsaras, it may also cause them to rise to the surface. I sometimes feel too much "I "in my work and prayer. I would like to know how others avoid this dangerous pitfall of sadhana. Another interesting point is that I can see it in others, but not in myself. Please suggest any other remedies to SUBTLE EGO. This is the first time, I am writing to this forum and there are many sadhanas of which I have never heard. So you are educating me, too. I greatly appreciate all the entries, especially those that relate to general dharmic prinicipals which can apply to any path. I found the group while searching for mrityunjaya sadhana and believe the temple is located in Delhi. Jyoti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 , "judymalekzadeh2003" <judymalekzadeh2003 wrote: Jai Gurudev! I have always felt that most questions that we raise, the answers of those are already given by Gurudev in advance in MTY just one or two months ago. For example your question about, how to ego and how to curb it. Gurudev says "always remember the first day when you came to me for diksha" This will never let your ego rise. Vande Nikhilam! > Dearest Prabhu, > > This was such a helpful post for me. Sometimes sadhana > seems to be entertainment of the ego rather than diminishing > the ego. My husband tells me that while sadhana will destroy > anarthas,vrittis and samsaras, it may also cause them to rise to > the surface. I sometimes feel too much "I "in my work and prayer. > I would like to know how others avoid this dangerous pitfall of > sadhana. > > Another interesting point is that I can see it in others, but not in > myself. Please suggest any other remedies to SUBTLE EGO. > > This is the first time, I am writing to this forum and there are > many sadhanas of which I have never heard. So you are > educating me, too. I greatly appreciate all the entries, especially > those that relate to general dharmic prinicipals which can apply > to any path. I found the group while searching for mrityunjaya > sadhana and believe the temple is located in Delhi. > > Jyoti > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Somby, ur right... but different people understand the same thing differently... so to put the right thought in their minds same things needs to be said in different manner. I see, most of Indian sciences r meant for the "Physical Suggestible" (one's who have tendency to take in knowledge literally, directly, these r emotional ppl, they can just follow) but todays world is a world of "Emotional Suggestibles" (one's who have tendency to take in knowledge inferentially, intellectually, these r one who can handle emotions, even if they like to follow,doubts come in their mind). Sometimes even I have problem here bcoz... to be honest i am an intellectual myself and ppl make there own presumtions. People will tell u to become more "trusting" but that will mean changing ur core belief system all of a sudden, removing all the mental conditioning till today, thats not possible, for intellectuals it takes time to build faith. Since from ur words u sound like an emotional suggestible, i would like to say one thing, plz dont fight urself, dont try to deplete Ego in one go. "Evolution is better than revolution", thats the truth, its a slow process. If u can end ur ego then ur already enlightened, but it doesnt happen in one day. So plz, just relax and concentrate on the work (sadhna/meditation) at hand, loss of egotism happens by itslef. Sadhna is the technique (Tantra). Techniques r for mind oriented people while total "Bhakti" is for heart oriented ones. Still, some amount of faith is required by intellectuals also or else u wont follow the technique given by Master and without following technique u will just end being where u were in the start. Persistence overcome every known obstacle to mankind... but its possible only if u believe ur persisting with right action, right? Atleast this much faith is required, thats the science of believing. , "somybist" <somybist wrote: > > , "judymalekzadeh2003" > <judymalekzadeh2003@> wrote: > Jai Gurudev! > > I have always felt that most questions that we raise, the answers of > those are already given by Gurudev in advance in MTY just one or two > months ago. > > For example your question about, how to ego and how to curb it. > > > Gurudev says "always remember the first day when you came to me for > diksha" > > This will never let your ego rise. > > Vande Nikhilam! > > > > > Dearest Prabhu, > > > > This was such a helpful post for me. Sometimes sadhana > > seems to be entertainment of the ego rather than diminishing > > the ego. My husband tells me that while sadhana will destroy > > anarthas,vrittis and samsaras, it may also cause them to rise to > > the surface. I sometimes feel too much "I "in my work and prayer. > > I would like to know how others avoid this dangerous pitfall of > > sadhana. > > > > Another interesting point is that I can see it in others, but not > in > > myself. Please suggest any other remedies to SUBTLE EGO. > > > > This is the first time, I am writing to this forum and there are > > many sadhanas of which I have never heard. So you are > > educating me, too. I greatly appreciate all the entries, especially > > those that relate to general dharmic prinicipals which can apply > > to any path. I found the group while searching for mrityunjaya > > sadhana and believe the temple is located in Delhi. > > > > Jyoti > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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