Guest guest Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 Dear Mr Bhaskar, Thanks for your thought provoking article. You are perfectly alright that one should never try to attain such sidhhis in this manner.There are other mantra too, apart from that you mentioned, where one can attain certain powers. The best way to attain these is through Patanjali's Ashtaang Yoga, where Patanjali clearly mentions repeatedly in Vibhuti Pada that one should never seek such sidhhis until & unless one has evolved at such level where he is able to use his discriminatory skills to utilise such God gifted powers solely for universal benefit & never for his personal gains. Can you please throw some light on the accuracy of Bhrigu samhita & do you know any genuine Bhrigu Shashtri personally. Regards, Virendra Taneja , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Ssatya Sai, > > I wish to bring to notice of readers that there is a Mantra "Karna > Pisachini " which one can attain siddhi of within 7 days, with siddhi > of this Mantra, the Pisachini comes and tells the astrologer all > about the natives past, everything, in the ears which only the > astrologer can hear and when he blurts this in a trance like state > smoothly and continously to the native, it looks really impressive. > But these pisachinis cannot talk about future , since they do not > have the power to do so, they are only allowed to see the past, > and hence the past never comes out true. I will not talk more > on this subject, because even the pisachinis have to be respected for > their present state and the good they do to such astrologers. > > But I warn the budding astrologers not to get siddhi of Mantras with > ownership of such entities, as the end of such astrologers is really > a terrible one, and not only the end, but thereafter these > astrologers without their flesh body have to serve such masters > for 1000- 2000 years till they are free from slavery . This is the > price to pay for getting to know the past of natives ,from > such entities. > > > //therefore my approach is to use Nadi > preidctions cautiously; not because I doubt Maha rishis; I cannot > even dream of doubting them or their foresight or vision; but I > strongly doubt the interpreters or readers.// > > Right, because today many (Not All)make use of Handmade wooden palm > leaves,not from ancient origin, but made in modern present area , > and they give few predictions correctly with the Prashna Lagna (In > Mind) of the moment, which makes the person gone for reading, think > that he has hit a jackpot, and when this person pays for future > readings, nothing comes out right, because if that astrologer was so > smart, then he would not have needed to make fool of any person with > Palm leaves in hand. > > But like evry profession has crooks and we cannot put all the > practioners in the same mould, in the same way, true Nadi readers do > exist in India, its on our luck and timings of our good destiny > which if exists, then would get us to meet them. > > Bhaskar. > > > , "Satya Sai Kolachina" > <skolachi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kishore and all members, > > > > Here are my views & experience on this subject. > > > > About 8 yrs ago I met a Nadi reader in Andhra Pradesh. He was a > > Tamil-based reader, and he himself was translating into Telugu (a > > peculiar accent of Telugu). > > > > He narrated my name, wife's name, parents' names etc. perfectly, as > > you were describing. However, for future predictions, whatever > > predictions he gave me were kind of long range predictions, and I > > still have to test them. Just one prediction came out true in these > > 8 yrs. We were longing for a male child and he said some remedial > > measures (including somethings to be given to him). I did not give > > anything to him later; but we sincerely implemented all the > remedial > > measures he told us (excepting that 'giving something to him'). So > I > > did not spend much money for the remedial measures. Rather I just > > relied on more bhakthi or devotion to god with open mind. Last year > > we were blessed with a son. > > > > In addition to his Nadi astrologer, we met another Nadi astrologer > > also in 2000, who came to US on a visit. I felt this second Nadi > > astrologer was more spiritual and got divine power compared to the > > first. He told me to do Amba upasana regularly because my horoscope > > directs the same and I would get all positive results. I started > > doing so; and I got wonderful results including having a son. > > > > The difference in the two was, that the first nadi reader did not > > ask my horoscope; whereas the second one used my horoscope as > basis; > > he also used some palm leaves that he has with him. The second > > reader also gave a few more predictions to me and my wife; all came > > out correct (100% success). The first nadi reader gave my planetary > > positions from his leaves. All the planets were matching my > > horoscope, except that the time of birth was advanced by about 30 > > minutes by him. and he gave the lagna next lagna to what I have in > > my horoscope. Even if I advance my birth time by 30 minutes; I will > > not get the lagna he proposed, rather I should advance my birth > time > > by 1 hr instead to get to his proposed lagna. However the point > that > > strikingly matches is that the lagna he proposes is my Karakamsa > > Lagna. According to rules of astrology, Karakamsa Lagna is also a > > valid lagna for predictions. > > > > The first nadi reader looked to me more just like a reader, with > > less of astrological basis. The second one (also used palm leaves > in > > addition to my horoscope), and went into a trans-like condition and > > predictions came out of his mouth, like a high-speed stream of > water > > flowing from a nozzle. WHatever he told me so far; came out 100% > > correct. > > > > I therefore believe one thing clearly: There is some truth in the > > Nadi leaves which is giving some information strikingly correct. > But > > at the same time I have to believe that there is so much fraud > going > > around the future predictions, as I do not see every Nadi > astrologer > > to be spiritually oriented; therefore my approach is to use Nadi > > preidctions cautiously; not because I doubt Maha rishis; I cannot > > even dream of doubting them or their foresight or vision; but I > > strongly doubt the interpreters or readers. > > > > , "kishore_kv" <kishore_kv@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > I am reposting portions of the earlier message, addressing all, > > since > > > this is a general query. > > > > > > I am wondering, if it is true that these Nadi leaves were written > > by > > > Maharshis like Agasthya, Viswamitra etal., what ayanamsa they > might > > > have been using and what panchanga/ephemeris they might have been > > > using.(I do not believe that ordinary mortals can come up with the > > > names and other details just from thumb print). It will be > > instructive > > > for me if someone could comment on how they used to cast > > horoscopes in > > > ancient India. They did not have Lahiri ayanamsa, Raman Ayanamsa, > > GMT, > > > timezones etc., to contend with and their panchanga might have > been > > > different from that being used today. > > > > > > Science fails to explain this Nadi astrology. Can "Divya Drishti" > > > (Divine Sight) of Maharshis be a possible explanation? If so can > > the > > > horoscope given to me was through such divine sight? In that case > > we > > > need to believe in the horoscope given by Nadi and assume that > > > horoscope had been cast not through traditional calculations but > > > through Divine Sight. The reason why future predictions are > failing > > > could be because of wrong interpretations of verses related to > > future > > > by the Nadi astrologer. Also I understand that there was a > > translation > > > from Sanskrit to an archaic form of Tamil. There could be > > > typographical errors because of this translation also. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Kishore > > > > > > > > > , "kishore_kv" <kishore_kv@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrasekhar, > > > > > > > > Nadi astrologers gave these details correctly: > > > > Lagna: Cancer > > > > Date of birth: 30/31 Oct 1971 (however they did not mention > > exact time > > > > of birth) > > > > Nakshatra: Purvabhadrapada 4th pada. > > > > > > > > One important thing is that all the Nadi astrologers, though > > with Nadi > > > > belonging to different Maharshis, came up with the same > > Horoscope > > > > (having Sun conjunct with Venus and Jupiter conjunct with > > Mercury). > > > > One of them had to ask lot of questions to pinpoint the leaf, > > while > > > > two others could easily identify the leaves. > > > > > > > > I am wondering if it is true that these leaves are written by > > > > Maharshis like Agasthya, Viswamitra etal., what ayanamsa they > > might > > > > have been using and what panchanga/ephemeris they might have > been > > > > using.(I do not believe that ordinary mortals can come up with > > the > > > > names and other details just from thumb print). It will be > > instructive > > > > for me if someone could comment on how they used to cast > > horoscopes in > > > > ancient India. They did not have Lahiri ayanamsa, Raman > > Ayanamsa, GMT, > > > > timezones etc., to contend with and their panchanga might have > > been > > > > different from that being used today. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kishore > > > > > > > > , Chandrashekhar > > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kishore, > > > > > > > > > > Venus being in 0 degrees and odd minutes, change of birth > time > > by > > > a few > > > > > minutes 00.08 instead of 00.30 could take Venus to be with > > Sun > > > but on > > > > > 31st October Mercury could not go to meet Jupiter. You have > > not > > > > > indicated what lagna , date of birth and Nakshatra, they came > > out > > > with. > > > > > I think when you answered the questions of the nadi readers, > > you must > > > > > have realized that as you approach your birth time the > details > > of > > > many > > > > > factors begin matching some pages before the final page that > > would > > > > > belong to you and if you give a wrong answer to any of the > > questions > > > > you > > > > > may be stuck with a page that is based on a different birth > > time and > > > > date. > > > > > > > > > > There is also the possibility that they are using a panchanga > > based > > > > on a > > > > > different parameter but I doubt that even that could make > > Mercury > > > > > change to Scorpio on 31st of October. Another possibility is > > use > > > of a > > > > > different ayanamsha (for example Usha-Shashi) but then > Mercury > > and > > > > Venus > > > > > will both join Jupiter and Sun would be alone in the 4th > bhava. > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > kishore_kv wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > I went to three different Nadi Astrologers of different > > systems > > > > > > (Agasthya, Kausika etc) to check the veracity of Nadi > > astrology. > > > > > > Amazingly all of them gave my name, parents' name, wife's > > name etc., > > > > > > based on my thumb print alone. However there is something > > that is > > > > > > puzzling me. In the birth rasi chart that they (all of them > > > uniformly > > > > > > agree on this) prepared according to Nadi leaves, Sun is > > conjunct > > > > > > with Venus and Jupiter is conjunct with Mercury. This is in > > complete > > > > > > opposition to what I get from all software as well as > > manually > > > > > > casting the birth chart. These give Sun conjunct with > > Mercury and > > > > > > Jupiter conjunct with Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please solve this puzzle for me? > > > > > > > > > > > > My birth details are: > > > > > > Oct 31 1971, 00:30 am, Guntur, Andhra Pradesh,India > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Kishore > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > - > > ------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/696 - Release > > Date: > > > > 2/21/2007 3:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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