Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 For those who may be interested, I had purchased a thin book costing Rs.12- known as Hanuman Jyotish, 10 years back,from Gita Press, Bombay, and since then using normally for many issues which create tensions in the family, to my utmost satisfaction. In this book there are chakras (Circles with partitions like the Western horoscopic chart) with new problem on each page, of day to day life and grave matters,even regarding death,partenrship,illness and shifting,to say a few. A person has to sit in a pure physical state ,think for a moment about his problem,concentrate for another moment on Hanuman Baba for the next moment with eyes closed., and then place his finger on the Cirle on any of the partitions within the circle. Next he opens his eyes and the astrologer/Pundit sitting before him opens the pages at the end of the book, to relate with that section, and answers the Query. I remember one occasion when I had purchased this book newly and running through a time which was financially very tiring for me. I wanted to try out this book. So I chose a page where one could ask about financial stability- I got the answer -It will take time.I tried to play smart with God, and again chose another page where one could ask about earnings from business - I got answer again that You will have to continue working as earnings period would come later, but I was not satisfied and I tried to play smart with God again, and this time I chose the page where one could ask, that when he could receive wealth- and I could not believe my eyes,when the answer came- Why are You watching again and again. You will have to wait for this period. (This book is in Hindi - The exact words- Baar baar kya dekhte ho- abhi samay hai). Needless to say I got shocked, scared and kept the book down after asking forgiveness from God for having tested Him so many times, and not believing, but wanting to hear a answer which I preferred.In last 10 years that same line-answer never appeared in front of me after that occasion. This small book has proved very precious for me, and helped me hundreds of time since these years, and I never go to ask for small minor things now, but only where I am not sure. All one needs here is faith,and nothing else. Bhaskar. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > WONDERFUL AND ULTIMATE POST ON THIS ISSUE. > > The only way to attain spiritual development is to worship > God in His Forms as Ganesh,Vishnu,Shiva, or Hanuman Baba., > or as per our faith and system. Sir absolute Truth. > May take a long time, but nevertheless only everlasting > effect without any conditions in return. > > Bhaskar. > > > > , "Satya Sai Kolachina" > <skolachi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > You are absolutely right and I also heard of this. That is also a > > reason I said we have to be cautious with Nadi astrologers. > > > > The only way astrologers get spiritual strength is to worship one > of > > the forms of the deities like Vishnu, or Shiva, or Amba etc., or > > Hanuman, Subrahmanya and so on and so forth, as per our choice and > > faith system., These deities also give siddhis, which are true > > siddhis; but it take a long long process; but the real attainment > of > > siddhi comes only through these deities. > > > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > In case of Pisachinis please read that the future never comes out > > > true. > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ssatya Sai, > > > > > > > > I wish to bring to notice of readers that there is a > > Mantra "Karna > > > > Pisachini " which one can attain siddhi of within 7 days, with > > > siddhi > > > > of this Mantra, the Pisachini comes and tells the astrologer > all > > > > about the natives past, everything, in the ears which only the > > > > astrologer can hear and when he blurts this in a trance like > > state > > > > smoothly and continously to the native, it looks really > > impressive. > > > > But these pisachinis cannot talk about future , since they do > not > > > > have the power to do so, they are only allowed to see the past, > > > > and hence the past never comes out true. I will not talk more > > > > on this subject, because even the pisachinis have to be > > respected > > > for > > > > their present state and the good they do to such astrologers. > > > > > > > > But I warn the budding astrologers not to get siddhi of Mantras > > > with > > > > ownership of such entities, as the end of such astrologers is > > > really > > > > a terrible one, and not only the end, but thereafter these > > > > astrologers without their flesh body have to serve such masters > > > > for 1000- 2000 years till they are free from slavery . This is > > the > > > > price to pay for getting to know the past of natives ,from > > > > such entities. > > > > > > > > > > > > //therefore my approach is to use Nadi > > > > preidctions cautiously; not because I doubt Maha rishis; I > cannot > > > > even dream of doubting them or their foresight or vision; but I > > > > strongly doubt the interpreters or readers.// > > > > > > > > Right, because today many (Not All)make use of Handmade wooden > > palm > > > > leaves,not from ancient origin, but made in modern present > area , > > > > and they give few predictions correctly with the Prashna Lagna > > (In > > > > Mind) of the moment, which makes the person gone for reading, > > think > > > > that he has hit a jackpot, and when this person pays for future > > > > readings, nothing comes out right, because if that astrologer > > was > > > so > > > > smart, then he would not have needed to make fool of any person > > > with > > > > Palm leaves in hand. > > > > > > > > But like evry profession has crooks and we cannot put all the > > > > practioners in the same mould, in the same way, true Nadi > > readers > > > do > > > > exist in India, its on our luck and timings of our good destiny > > > > which if exists, then would get us to meet them. > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Satya Sai Kolachina" > > > > <skolachi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kishore and all members, > > > > > > > > > > Here are my views & experience on this subject. > > > > > > > > > > About 8 yrs ago I met a Nadi reader in Andhra Pradesh. He was > > a > > > > > Tamil-based reader, and he himself was translating into > Telugu > > (a > > > > > peculiar accent of Telugu). > > > > > > > > > > He narrated my name, wife's name, parents' names etc. > > perfectly, > > > as > > > > > you were describing. However, for future predictions, > whatever > > > > > predictions he gave me were kind of long range predictions, > > and I > > > > > still have to test them. Just one prediction came out true in > > > these > > > > > 8 yrs. We were longing for a male child and he said some > > remedial > > > > > measures (including somethings to be given to him). I did not > > > give > > > > > anything to him later; but we sincerely implemented all the > > > > remedial > > > > > measures he told us (excepting that 'giving something to > > him'). > > > So > > > > I > > > > > did not spend much money for the remedial measures. Rather I > > just > > > > > relied on more bhakthi or devotion to god with open mind. > Last > > > year > > > > > we were blessed with a son. > > > > > > > > > > In addition to his Nadi astrologer, we met another Nadi > > > astrologer > > > > > also in 2000, who came to US on a visit. I felt this second > > Nadi > > > > > astrologer was more spiritual and got divine power compared > to > > > the > > > > > first. He told me to do Amba upasana regularly because my > > > horoscope > > > > > directs the same and I would get all positive results. I > > started > > > > > doing so; and I got wonderful results including having a son. > > > > > > > > > > The difference in the two was, that the first nadi reader did > > not > > > > > ask my horoscope; whereas the second one used my horoscope as > > > > basis; > > > > > he also used some palm leaves that he has with him. The > second > > > > > reader also gave a few more predictions to me and my wife; > all > > > came > > > > > out correct (100% success). The first nadi reader gave my > > > planetary > > > > > positions from his leaves. All the planets were matching my > > > > > horoscope, except that the time of birth was advanced by > about > > 30 > > > > > minutes by him. and he gave the lagna next lagna to what I > > have > > > in > > > > > my horoscope. Even if I advance my birth time by 30 minutes; > I > > > will > > > > > not get the lagna he proposed, rather I should advance my > > birth > > > > time > > > > > by 1 hr instead to get to his proposed lagna. However the > > point > > > > that > > > > > strikingly matches is that the lagna he proposes is my > > Karakamsa > > > > > Lagna. According to rules of astrology, Karakamsa Lagna is > > also a > > > > > valid lagna for predictions. > > > > > > > > > > The first nadi reader looked to me more just like a reader, > > with > > > > > less of astrological basis. The second one (also used palm > > leaves > > > > in > > > > > addition to my horoscope), and went into a trans-like > > condition > > > and > > > > > predictions came out of his mouth, like a high-speed stream > of > > > > water > > > > > flowing from a nozzle. WHatever he told me so far; came out > > 100% > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > I therefore believe one thing clearly: There is some truth in > > the > > > > > Nadi leaves which is giving some information strikingly > > correct. > > > > But > > > > > at the same time I have to believe that there is so much > fraud > > > > going > > > > > around the future predictions, as I do not see every Nadi > > > > astrologer > > > > > to be spiritually oriented; therefore my approach is to use > > Nadi > > > > > preidctions cautiously; not because I doubt Maha rishis; I > > cannot > > > > > even dream of doubting them or their foresight or vision; but > > I > > > > > strongly doubt the interpreters or readers. > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore_kv" > > <kishore_kv@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am reposting portions of the earlier message, addressing > > all, > > > > > since > > > > > > this is a general query. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wondering, if it is true that these Nadi leaves were > > > written > > > > > by > > > > > > Maharshis like Agasthya, Viswamitra etal., what ayanamsa > > they > > > > might > > > > > > have been using and what panchanga/ephemeris they might > have > > > been > > > > > > using.(I do not believe that ordinary mortals can come up > > with > > > the > > > > > > names and other details just from thumb print). It will be > > > > > instructive > > > > > > for me if someone could comment on how they used to cast > > > > > horoscopes in > > > > > > ancient India. They did not have Lahiri ayanamsa, Raman > > > Ayanamsa, > > > > > GMT, > > > > > > timezones etc., to contend with and their panchanga might > > have > > > > been > > > > > > different from that being used today. > > > > > > > > > > > > Science fails to explain this Nadi astrology. Can "Divya > > > Drishti" > > > > > > (Divine Sight) of Maharshis be a possible explanation? If > so > > > can > > > > > the > > > > > > horoscope given to me was through such divine sight? In > that > > > case > > > > > we > > > > > > need to believe in the horoscope given by Nadi and assume > > that > > > > > > horoscope had been cast not through traditional > calculations > > but > > > > > > through Divine Sight. The reason why future predictions are > > > > failing > > > > > > could be because of wrong interpretations of verses related > > to > > > > > future > > > > > > by the Nadi astrologer. Also I understand that there was a > > > > > translation > > > > > > from Sanskrit to an archaic form of Tamil. There could be > > > > > > typographical errors because of this translation also. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Kishore > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore_kv" > > <kishore_kv@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrasekhar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadi astrologers gave these details correctly: > > > > > > > Lagna: Cancer > > > > > > > Date of birth: 30/31 Oct 1971 (however they did not > > mention > > > > > exact time > > > > > > > of birth) > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Purvabhadrapada 4th pada. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One important thing is that all the Nadi astrologers, > > though > > > > > with Nadi > > > > > > > belonging to different Maharshis, came up with the same > > > > > Horoscope > > > > > > > (having Sun conjunct with Venus and Jupiter conjunct with > > > > > Mercury). > > > > > > > One of them had to ask lot of questions to pinpoint the > > leaf, > > > > > while > > > > > > > two others could easily identify the leaves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wondering if it is true that these leaves are > written > > by > > > > > > > Maharshis like Agasthya, Viswamitra etal., what ayanamsa > > they > > > > > might > > > > > > > have been using and what panchanga/ephemeris they might > > have > > > > been > > > > > > > using.(I do not believe that ordinary mortals can come up > > > with > > > > > the > > > > > > > names and other details just from thumb print). It will > be > > > > > instructive > > > > > > > for me if someone could comment on how they used to cast > > > > > horoscopes in > > > > > > > ancient India. They did not have Lahiri ayanamsa, Raman > > > > > Ayanamsa, GMT, > > > > > > > timezones etc., to contend with and their panchanga might > > > have > > > > > been > > > > > > > different from that being used today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Kishore > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kishore, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus being in 0 degrees and odd minutes, change of > > birth > > > > time > > > > > by > > > > > > a few > > > > > > > > minutes 00.08 instead of 00.30 could take Venus to be > > > with > > > > > Sun > > > > > > but on > > > > > > > > 31st October Mercury could not go to meet Jupiter. You > > have > > > > > not > > > > > > > > indicated what lagna , date of birth and Nakshatra, > they > > > came > > > > > out > > > > > > with. > > > > > > > > I think when you answered the questions of the nadi > > > readers, > > > > > you must > > > > > > > > have realized that as you approach your birth time the > > > > details > > > > > of > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > factors begin matching some pages before the final page > > > that > > > > > would > > > > > > > > belong to you and if you give a wrong answer to any of > > the > > > > > questions > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > may be stuck with a page that is based on a different > > birth > > > > > time and > > > > > > > date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also the possibility that they are using a > > > panchanga > > > > > based > > > > > > > on a > > > > > > > > different parameter but I doubt that even that could > > make > > > > > Mercury > > > > > > > > change to Scorpio on 31st of October. Another > > possibility > > > is > > > > > use > > > > > > of a > > > > > > > > different ayanamsha (for example Usha-Shashi) but then > > > > Mercury > > > > > and > > > > > > > Venus > > > > > > > > will both join Jupiter and Sun would be alone in the > 4th > > > > bhava. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kishore_kv wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I went to three different Nadi Astrologers of > > different > > > > > systems > > > > > > > > > (Agasthya, Kausika etc) to check the veracity of Nadi > > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > > Amazingly all of them gave my name, parents' name, > > wife's > > > > > name etc., > > > > > > > > > based on my thumb print alone. However there is > > something > > > > > that is > > > > > > > > > puzzling me. In the birth rasi chart that they (all > of > > > them > > > > > > uniformly > > > > > > > > > agree on this) prepared according to Nadi leaves, Sun > > is > > > > > conjunct > > > > > > > > > with Venus and Jupiter is conjunct with Mercury. This > > is > > > in > > > > > complete > > > > > > > > > opposition to what I get from all software as well as > > > > > manually > > > > > > > > > casting the birth chart. These give Sun conjunct with > > > > > Mercury and > > > > > > > > > Jupiter conjunct with Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please solve this puzzle for me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birth details are: > > > > > > > > > Oct 31 1971, 00:30 am, Guntur, Andhra Pradesh,India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Kishore > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------- -- > - > > --- > > > -- > > > > - > > > > > ------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/696 - > > Release > > > > > Date: > > > > > > > 2/21/2007 3:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 ll HARE RAM ll Dear Bhaskar Bhai, Ram Ram, You are exactly right.I also have this book.It is like RAMSHALAKA Prasnaavaly in Ramcharitmanas but there is no provision of making chaupaaie etc in this book except direct reply.Yes,faith is must. God bless Shashie Shekhar Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: For those who may be interested, I had purchased a thin book costing Rs.12- known as Hanuman Jyotish, 10 years back,from Gita Press, Bombay, and since then using normally for many issues which create tensions in the family, to my utmost satisfaction. In this book there are chakras (Circles with partitions like the Western horoscopic chart) with new problem on each page, of day to day life and grave matters,even regarding death,partenrship,illness and shifting,to say a few. A person has to sit in a pure physical state ,think for a moment about his problem,concentrate for another moment on Hanuman Baba for the next moment with eyes closed., and then place his finger on the Cirle on any of the partitions within the circle. Next he opens his eyes and the astrologer/Pundit sitting before him opens the pages at the end of the book, to relate with that section, and answers the Query. I remember one occasion when I had purchased this book newly and running through a time which was financially very tiring for me. I wanted to try out this book. So I chose a page where one could ask about financial stability- I got the answer -It will take time.I tried to play smart with God, and again chose another page where one could ask about earnings from business - I got answer again that You will have to continue working as earnings period would come later, but I was not satisfied and I tried to play smart with God again, and this time I chose the page where one could ask, that when he could receive wealth- and I could not believe my eyes,when the answer came- Why are You watching again and again. You will have to wait for this period. (This book is in Hindi - The exact words- Baar baar kya dekhte ho- abhi samay hai). Needless to say I got shocked, scared and kept the book down after asking forgiveness from God for having tested Him so many times, and not believing, but wanting to hear a answer which I preferred.In last 10 years that same line-answer never appeared in front of me after that occasion. This small book has proved very precious for me, and helped me hundreds of time since these years, and I never go to ask for small minor things now, but only where I am not sure. All one needs here is faith,and nothing else. Bhaskar. , "Bhaskar" wrote: > > WONDERFUL AND ULTIMATE POST ON THIS ISSUE. > > The only way to attain spiritual development is to worship > God in His Forms as Ganesh,Vishnu,Shiva, or Hanuman Baba., > or as per our faith and system. Sir absolute Truth. > May take a long time, but nevertheless only everlasting > effect without any conditions in return. > > Bhaskar. > > > > , "Satya Sai Kolachina" > wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > You are absolutely right and I also heard of this. That is also a > > reason I said we have to be cautious with Nadi astrologers. > > > > The only way astrologers get spiritual strength is to worship one > of > > the forms of the deities like Vishnu, or Shiva, or Amba etc., or > > Hanuman, Subrahmanya and so on and so forth, as per our choice and > > faith system., These deities also give siddhis, which are true > > siddhis; but it take a long long process; but the real attainment > of > > siddhi comes only through these deities. > > > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > wrote: > > > > > > In case of Pisachinis please read that the future never comes out > > > true. > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ssatya Sai, > > > > > > > > I wish to bring to notice of readers that there is a > > Mantra "Karna > > > > Pisachini " which one can attain siddhi of within 7 days, with > > > siddhi > > > > of this Mantra, the Pisachini comes and tells the astrologer > all > > > > about the natives past, everything, in the ears which only the > > > > astrologer can hear and when he blurts this in a trance like > > state > > > > smoothly and continously to the native, it looks really > > impressive. > > > > But these pisachinis cannot talk about future , since they do > not > > > > have the power to do so, they are only allowed to see the past, > > > > and hence the past never comes out true. I will not talk more > > > > on this subject, because even the pisachinis have to be > > respected > > > for > > > > their present state and the good they do to such astrologers. > > > > > > > > But I warn the budding astrologers not to get siddhi of Mantras > > > with > > > > ownership of such entities, as the end of such astrologers is > > > really > > > > a terrible one, and not only the end, but thereafter these > > > > astrologers without their flesh body have to serve such masters > > > > for 1000- 2000 years till they are free from slavery . This is > > the > > > > price to pay for getting to know the past of natives ,from > > > > such entities. > > > > > > > > > > > > //therefore my approach is to use Nadi > > > > preidctions cautiously; not because I doubt Maha rishis; I > cannot > > > > even dream of doubting them or their foresight or vision; but I > > > > strongly doubt the interpreters or readers.// > > > > > > > > Right, because today many (Not All)make use of Handmade wooden > > palm > > > > leaves,not from ancient origin, but made in modern present > area , > > > > and they give few predictions correctly with the Prashna Lagna > > (In > > > > Mind) of the moment, which makes the person gone for reading, > > think > > > > that he has hit a jackpot, and when this person pays for future > > > > readings, nothing comes out right, because if that astrologer > > was > > > so > > > > smart, then he would not have needed to make fool of any person > > > with > > > > Palm leaves in hand. > > > > > > > > But like evry profession has crooks and we cannot put all the > > > > practioners in the same mould, in the same way, true Nadi > > readers > > > do > > > > exist in India, its on our luck and timings of our good destiny > > > > which if exists, then would get us to meet them. > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Satya Sai Kolachina" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kishore and all members, > > > > > > > > > > Here are my views & experience on this subject. > > > > > > > > > > About 8 yrs ago I met a Nadi reader in Andhra Pradesh. He was > > a > > > > > Tamil-based reader, and he himself was translating into > Telugu > > (a > > > > > peculiar accent of Telugu). > > > > > > > > > > He narrated my name, wife's name, parents' names etc. > > perfectly, > > > as > > > > > you were describing. However, for future predictions, > whatever > > > > > predictions he gave me were kind of long range predictions, > > and I > > > > > still have to test them. Just one prediction came out true in > > > these > > > > > 8 yrs. We were longing for a male child and he said some > > remedial > > > > > measures (including somethings to be given to him). I did not > > > give > > > > > anything to him later; but we sincerely implemented all the > > > > remedial > > > > > measures he told us (excepting that 'giving something to > > him'). > > > So > > > > I > > > > > did not spend much money for the remedial measures. Rather I > > just > > > > > relied on more bhakthi or devotion to god with open mind. > Last > > > year > > > > > we were blessed with a son. > > > > > > > > > > In addition to his Nadi astrologer, we met another Nadi > > > astrologer > > > > > also in 2000, who came to US on a visit. I felt this second > > Nadi > > > > > astrologer was more spiritual and got divine power compared > to > > > the > > > > > first. He told me to do Amba upasana regularly because my > > > horoscope > > > > > directs the same and I would get all positive results. I > > started > > > > > doing so; and I got wonderful results including having a son. > > > > > > > > > > The difference in the two was, that the first nadi reader did > > not > > > > > ask my horoscope; whereas the second one used my horoscope as > > > > basis; > > > > > he also used some palm leaves that he has with him. The > second > > > > > reader also gave a few more predictions to me and my wife; > all > > > came > > > > > out correct (100% success). The first nadi reader gave my > > > planetary > > > > > positions from his leaves. All the planets were matching my > > > > > horoscope, except that the time of birth was advanced by > about > > 30 > > > > > minutes by him. and he gave the lagna next lagna to what I > > have > > > in > > > > > my horoscope. Even if I advance my birth time by 30 minutes; > I > > > will > > > > > not get the lagna he proposed, rather I should advance my > > birth > > > > time > > > > > by 1 hr instead to get to his proposed lagna. However the > > point > > > > that > > > > > strikingly matches is that the lagna he proposes is my > > Karakamsa > > > > > Lagna. According to rules of astrology, Karakamsa Lagna is > > also a > > > > > valid lagna for predictions. > > > > > > > > > > The first nadi reader looked to me more just like a reader, > > with > > > > > less of astrological basis. The second one (also used palm > > leaves > > > > in > > > > > addition to my horoscope), and went into a trans-like > > condition > > > and > > > > > predictions came out of his mouth, like a high-speed stream > of > > > > water > > > > > flowing from a nozzle. WHatever he told me so far; came out > > 100% > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > I therefore believe one thing clearly: There is some truth in > > the > > > > > Nadi leaves which is giving some information strikingly > > correct. > > > > But > > > > > at the same time I have to believe that there is so much > fraud > > > > going > > > > > around the future predictions, as I do not see every Nadi > > > > astrologer > > > > > to be spiritually oriented; therefore my approach is to use > > Nadi > > > > > preidctions cautiously; not because I doubt Maha rishis; I > > cannot > > > > > even dream of doubting them or their foresight or vision; but > > I > > > > > strongly doubt the interpreters or readers. > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore_kv" > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am reposting portions of the earlier message, addressing > > all, > > > > > since > > > > > > this is a general query. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wondering, if it is true that these Nadi leaves were > > > written > > > > > by > > > > > > Maharshis like Agasthya, Viswamitra etal., what ayanamsa > > they > > > > might > > > > > > have been using and what panchanga/ephemeris they might > have > > > been > > > > > > using.(I do not believe that ordinary mortals can come up > > with > > > the > > > > > > names and other details just from thumb print). It will be > > > > > instructive > > > > > > for me if someone could comment on how they used to cast > > > > > horoscopes in > > > > > > ancient India. They did not have Lahiri ayanamsa, Raman > > > Ayanamsa, > > > > > GMT, > > > > > > timezones etc., to contend with and their panchanga might > > have > > > > been > > > > > > different from that being used today. > > > > > > > > > > > > Science fails to explain this Nadi astrology. Can "Divya > > > Drishti" > > > > > > (Divine Sight) of Maharshis be a possible explanation? If > so > > > can > > > > > the > > > > > > horoscope given to me was through such divine sight? In > that > > > case > > > > > we > > > > > > need to believe in the horoscope given by Nadi and assume > > that > > > > > > horoscope had been cast not through traditional > calculations > > but > > > > > > through Divine Sight. The reason why future predictions are > > > > failing > > > > > > could be because of wrong interpretations of verses related > > to > > > > > future > > > > > > by the Nadi astrologer. Also I understand that there was a > > > > > translation > > > > > > from Sanskrit to an archaic form of Tamil. There could be > > > > > > typographical errors because of this translation also. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Kishore > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kishore_kv" > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrasekhar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadi astrologers gave these details correctly: > > > > > > > Lagna: Cancer > > > > > > > Date of birth: 30/31 Oct 1971 (however they did not > > mention > > > > > exact time > > > > > > > of birth) > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Purvabhadrapada 4th pada. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One important thing is that all the Nadi astrologers, > > though > > > > > with Nadi > > > > > > > belonging to different Maharshis, came up with the same > > > > > Horoscope > > > > > > > (having Sun conjunct with Venus and Jupiter conjunct with > > > > > Mercury). > > > > > > > One of them had to ask lot of questions to pinpoint the > > leaf, > > > > > while > > > > > > > two others could easily identify the leaves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wondering if it is true that these leaves are > written > > by > > > > > > > Maharshis like Agasthya, Viswamitra etal., what ayanamsa > > they > > > > > might > > > > > > > have been using and what panchanga/ephemeris they might > > have > > > > been > > > > > > > using.(I do not believe that ordinary mortals can come up > > > with > > > > > the > > > > > > > names and other details just from thumb print). It will > be > > > > > instructive > > > > > > > for me if someone could comment on how they used to cast > > > > > horoscopes in > > > > > > > ancient India. They did not have Lahiri ayanamsa, Raman > > > > > Ayanamsa, GMT, > > > > > > > timezones etc., to contend with and their panchanga might > > > have > > > > > been > > > > > > > different from that being used today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Kishore > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kishore, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus being in 0 degrees and odd minutes, change of > > birth > > > > time > > > > > by > > > > > > a few > > > > > > > > minutes 00.08 instead of 00.30 could take Venus to be > > > with > > > > > Sun > > > > > > but on > > > > > > > > 31st October Mercury could not go to meet Jupiter. You > > have > > > > > not > > > > > > > > indicated what lagna , date of birth and Nakshatra, > they > > > came > > > > > out > > > > > > with. > > > > > > > > I think when you answered the questions of the nadi > > > readers, > > > > > you must > > > > > > > > have realized that as you approach your birth time the > > > > details > > > > > of > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > factors begin matching some pages before the final page > > > that > > > > > would > > > > > > > > belong to you and if you give a wrong answer to any of > > the > > > > > questions > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > may be stuck with a page that is based on a different > > birth > > > > > time and > > > > > > > date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also the possibility that they are using a > > > panchanga > > > > > based > > > > > > > on a > > > > > > > > different parameter but I doubt that even that could > > make > > > > > Mercury > > > > > > > > change to Scorpio on 31st of October. Another > > possibility > > > is > > > > > use > > > > > > of a > > > > > > > > different ayanamsha (for example Usha-Shashi) but then > > > > Mercury > > > > > and > > > > > > > Venus > > > > > > > > will both join Jupiter and Sun would be alone in the > 4th > > > > bhava. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kishore_kv wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I went to three different Nadi Astrologers of > > different > > > > > systems > > > > > > > > > (Agasthya, Kausika etc) to check the veracity of Nadi > > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > > Amazingly all of them gave my name, parents' name, > > wife's > > > > > name etc., > > > > > > > > > based on my thumb print alone. However there is > > something > > > > > that is > > > > > > > > > puzzling me. In the birth rasi chart that they (all > of > > > them > > > > > > uniformly > > > > > > > > > agree on this) prepared according to Nadi leaves, Sun > > is > > > > > conjunct > > > > > > > > > with Venus and Jupiter is conjunct with Mercury. This > > is > > > in > > > > > complete > > > > > > > > > opposition to what I get from all software as well as > > > > > manually > > > > > > > > > casting the birth chart. These give Sun conjunct with > > > > > Mercury and > > > > > > > > > Jupiter conjunct with Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please solve this puzzle for me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birth details are: > > > > > > > > > Oct 31 1971, 00:30 am, Guntur, Andhra Pradesh,India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Kishore > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------- -- > - > > --- > > > -- > > > > - > > > > > ------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/696 - > > Release > > > > > Date: > > > > > > > 2/21/2007 3:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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