Guest guest Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Is there such a thing? Explained in Vedas- that other planets, etc revolves around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theist Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 True for our solar system but obvious not possible for the whole universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guruvani Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Is there such a thing?Explained in Vedas- that other planets, etc revolves around? According to the Vedic concept, the Earth, the Sun, the Milky Way etc. all revolve around the Polestar which is the planet of Lord Ksirodakshayi Vishnu who gave that planet to his devotee Dhruva Maharaja. The time factor and all the planetary systems of the universe are said to orbit this polestar which is actually the pivot of the wheel of time, but is above time and space. as best I can recall.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Is there such a thing?Explained in Vedas- that other planets, etc revolves around? Some say our Sun is just a window into the real central sun of the universe. That central sun exists on a different platform of perception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muralidhar_das Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Srila Sridhar Maharaj translates the word "brahmanda" as solar system. Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada translates the word "brahmanda" as universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guruvani Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Getting all scientific will rob us of the spiritual power of the Bhagavatam. For all practical purposes, there is only one Sun as far as Earth is concerned. When the Vedic sages said there is only one Sun, they are just saying that there is not two Suns or a multiplicty of Suns that rise on the horizen of the Earth. All this scientific debunking of the Bhagavat is just ignorance and will deprive us of the spiritual power and the spiritual purpose of just accepting the Bhagavat as a transcendental literature that takes us from the mundane to the transcendence. To transcend this mundane plane we have to cut our ties to scientific faith and put our faith in the spiritual master whose powerful spiritual instructions take us to the inner world we are robbing ourselves of with an empiric mindset. It was never meant to be scientific. They are powerful spiritual meditations that take us out of mundane consciousness. (scientific consciousness) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muralidhar_das Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 I agree with you here Prabhu. The Bhagavatam is not a book about geography or science. It is a book that explains Krishna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 The Bhagavatam is not a book about geography or science. It is a book that explains Krishna. ..i thought Krishna is everything.. _____________________ True for our solar system but obvious not possible for the whole universe. Why it is not possible? ______________________ According to the Vedic concept, the Earth, the Sun, the Milky Way etc. all revolve around the Polestar which is the planet of Lord Ksirodakshayi Vishnu who gave that planet to his devotee Dhruva Maharaja. You mean Precession? Ok, when precession is mentioned- do you know any good models, animations, movies etc how to "imagine" that? link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theist Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Quote: <table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(102, 102, 102); padding-left: 3ex; padding-right: 3ex;" bgcolor="#e0e0e0"> True for our solar system but obvious not possible for the whole universe. </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <!-- END TEMPLATE: bbcode_quote --> Why it is not possible? ------------------ Because it is not big or powerful enough. Try to think these things out. Is it not obvious? To think that the sun of our solar system could heat and light the entire universe is something like thinking a match could heat and light one's entire house ithroughout a cold winter season. Krsna gave us a brain for some reason. What could that reason be I wonder? Maybe He expects us to use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 According to the Vedic concept, the Earth, the Sun, the Milky Way etc. all revolve around the Polestar which is the planet of Lord Ksirodakshayi Vishnu who gave that planet to his devotee Dhruva Maharaja. The time factor and all the planetary systems of the universe are said to orbit this polestar which is actually the pivot of the wheel of time, but is above time and space. What we see in the sky is a distant star. For it's inhabitants it is a complete world which ends at a shore of an ocean of milk, shrouded in mists. Somewhere in these mists there is an island (Svetadvipa) where Lord Vishnu resides, beyond time and space. No one has ever been there, not even Lord Brahma. Demigods come and pray on the shore of this ocean, and Lord Vishnu speaks to them in their hearts. There is some debate whether Dhruvaloka itself is beyond time and space and whether it is destroyed at the end of Bhahma's life. It was created by Prsnigarbha - the incarnation who appeared before Dhruva. Usually, whatever is created must be eventually destroyed, but there are shastric passages suggesting that Dhruvaloka is a Vaikuntha planet. Perhaps that applies only to the island of Svetadvipa. It is an intersting subject matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 It wasnt ment like this..that our sun is.. but is there any central sun in our universe? Looking from atoms, to a larger "distances" like our solar system,... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guruvani Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 It wasnt ment like this..that our sun is.. but is there any central sun in our universe? Looking from atoms, to a larger "distances" like our solar system,... The whole universe is not illuminated by the Sun. The Sun doesn't reach to the lower regions of the universe which are illuminated by the Jewels on the head of the the thousand-headed snake Lord Anantadeva. The sun doesn't illuminate the Svargaloka, the highest realm of the universe, which is illuminated by Brahmaloka, the planet of Lord Brahma who is the God of creation within this universe. Even beyond the Polestar are higher planets beyond the range of the sunlight. So, the sun only illuminates the middle portion of the universe. Way beyond the range of any telescope are planets that don't reflect sunlight and can't be detected with any telescope or electronic sensor. So, the upper, middle and lower portions of the universe all have their own seperate sources of illumination, but ultimately all the light is coming from the Brahmajyoti, the effulgence of the Lord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theist Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 It wasnt ment like this..that our sun is.. but is there any central sun in our universe? Looking from atoms, to a larger "distances" like our solar system,... Oh now I see what you mean. Sorry I miss understood. Interesting question. Nothing is visble like that that is known but who knows what is out there. I wouldn't know if the vedas talk of this but am also now curious. Ultimately of course the light that comes through the sun is a reflection of the brahmajyoti. This means that Krsna is Himself is the central sun of all existence... the primeval nucleus which the whole of existence revoles around. But I know this is not the thrust of your question. We will see what the devotee say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Mysteries of the Sacred Universe by Richar Thompson ww.amazon.com/Mysteries-Sacred-Universe-Richard-Thompson/dp/0963530933 Sime explanations might br in this book-anyone knows? I didnt read it so i dont know.. I think he "looks" from a vedic point, knowledge.. _______________________ Anyway..i think it is nice to know "material, physical" nature of our universe. so it is interesting to see, how vedas look at this, like it would be nice to see how old egyptian or mayas look at this- and compare their views! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 No one familiar with his work? He is a coauthor of The Hidden History of the Human Race, with Michael Cremo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 The Bhagavatam is not a book about geography or science. It is a book that explains Krishna. ...on the first page it is written-The Cosmology of Bhagavata Purana... what is Bhagavata Purana? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guruvani Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 ...on the first page it is written-The Cosmology of Bhagavata Purana...what is Bhagavata Purana? It is Srimad Bhagavatam. Srimad Bhagavatam is one of the Puranas. Srimad Bhagavatam is also referred to as Bhagavat Purana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ananta Sesa Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 The proof: Go to Galileowaswrong.com So Galileo and Copernicus got it completely wrong! Of course the Sun-god together with his entourage are revolving the Earth! Otherwise not even astrology would work, which is based on a Geocentric Solar system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHari Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 <BR><P>Perhaps Vivasvan has a fractal-like body (click picture to expand your mind): <center> </center> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 <BR><P>Perhaps Vivasvan has a fractal-like body Sometimes shastras say that the sun we see here on earth is merely a chariot of the Sun-god, not his real abode, but in other passages sun is described as his abode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHari Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 I remember a one-wheeled chariot circling Bhu-Mandala sending shivers up my spine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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