Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Paramatman is beyond knowledge and ignorance, devoid of all material attributes (upadhi). In Vaishnava texts such as the Bhagavad Gita, ch. 13, it is described as four-armed Lord Vishnu residing in the hearts of all beings and in every atom of matter. Also known as the divine self or the one object, Paramatman is situated in the heart of every individual jiva in the macrocosm. ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramatma This is strange explanation. Firstly it is said that there is one Paramatman situated in evry beings, that it is said that every atom has Paramatman. Our body is made from many,many atoms- so the question is- is there one Paramatman for a living being or many, many.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theist Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramatma This is strange explanation. Firstly it is said that there is one Paramatman situated in evry beings, that it is said that every atom has Paramatman. Our body is made from many,many atoms- so the question is- is there one Paramatman for a living being or many, many.. Paramatma is one....expanded into many. The example I have heard is that it like a candle flame. It starts with one original lit candle. Krsna is the original candle. From that candle an unlimited number of other candles can also be lit. The other candles are expansions of the original flame and they possess the same ability for giving off heat and light. It is in fact the very same fire in all candles expanded in such a way as to appear as many. From any of these lit candles one can lite smaller candles like atoms or a huge candle like the universe itself. Paramatma is like that. The same Supremesoul that inhabits all forms atoms plants animals humans gods also inhabits the universe simultaneously. Paramatma means Supreme (Param) soul (atma). IOW's God Himself. So one of the unique characteristics of God is that He is omnipresent, within everything and outside of everything. This also includes us the minute souls who are part of Him. He lives within us as the Soul of all souls. One should not think of Paramatma as just an all present energy that inhabits everything. That is not false but it is incomplete. That is known as Brahman realization. Paramatma is the personal expansion of God who emmanates the eternal energy or Brahman but He is the energetic source of that energy at the same time. Because the Lord is personally within us and is conscious of all our desires if we cultivate the desire to know Him He will reveal Himself to us directly within our hearts and also reveal Himself in His original form as Krsna. Hare Krsna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theist Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 [...] Transference of the atomic individual soul to another body is made possible by the grace of the Supersoul. The Supersoul fulfills the desire of the atomic soul as one friend fulfills the desire of another. The Vedas, like the Mundaka Upanishad, as well as the Svetasvatara Upanishad, compare the soul and the Supersoul to two friendly birds sitting on the same tree. One of the birds (the individual atomic soul) is eating the fruit of the tree, and the other bird (Krishna) is simply watching His friend. Of these two birds—although they are the same in quality—one is captivated by the fruits of the material tree, while the other is simply witnessing the activities of His friend. Krishna is the witnessing bird, and Arjuna is the eating bird. Although they are friends, one is still the master and the other is the servant. Forgetfulness of this relationship by the atomic soul is the cause of one's changing his position from one tree to another, or from one body to another. The jiva soul is struggling very hard on the tree of the material body, but as soon as he agrees to accept the other bird as the supreme spiritual master—as Arjuna agreed to do by voluntary surrender unto Krishna for instruction—the subordinate bird immediately becomes free from all lamentations. Both the Mundaka Upanishad (3.1.2) and Svetasvatara Upanishad (4.7) confirm this: samane vrikshe purusho nimagno 'nisaya socati muhyamanah jushtam yada pasyaty anyam isam asya mahimanam iti vita-sokah "Although the two birds are in the same tree, the eating bird is fully engrossed with anxiety and moroseness as the enjoyer of the fruits of the tree. But if in some way or other he turns his face to his friend who is the Lord and knows His glories—at once the suffering bird becomes free from all anxieties." Arjuna has now turned his face towards his eternal friend, Krishna, and is understanding the Bhagavad-gita from Him. And thus, hearing from Krishna, he can understand the supreme glories of the Lord and be free from lamentation. Gita 2.22 purport [...] ---------- The bird that is trying to enjoy the results (fruits) of his actions is habituated to seeking such fruits. But he needn't just stop rather he should continue gathering fruits but then he should offer them to the other bird, his Supreme Friend, who is watching and waiting for his friend to remember Him. This offering is one way of turning our face to our friend the Lord Paramatma and establishing a relationship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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