gHari Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 And then unofficially there was .... A Garland of Vaishnava Truths (Bhaktivinoda 1892, McGill University Canada) .... Siddhartha .... Rama of the jungle ... Save-o-rama .... Casino Rama .... My Sweet Lord ..... Rama Rama Ding Dong ... The inpouring of Indian immigrants to the West ... The internet .... Entry into the English vocabulary of words like karma, dharma .... Jaya Jagannatha! Lord Sri Krsna Caitanya garlanded the whole world with the Holy Name, and it is manifesting, if only a word at a time at times ... Change is sometimes best a gradual thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Srila Prabhupada said that since the start of Kali Yuga that after 15 thousand years the age of Kali will become too "gloomy" for Krishna consciousness. That since now we are 5,000 years into Kali Yuga that there are 10,000 years left for the Krishna consciousness movement. He has stated that it is foretold that for 10,000 years more the Krishna consciousness movement will continue " provided we keep it uncontaminated". Some quotes Srimad Bhagavatam 8.5.23 When Krsna appeared, He gave His orders, and when Krsna Himself appeared as a devotee, as Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, He showed us the path by which to cross the ocean of Kali-yuga. That is the path of the Hare Krsna movement. When Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu appeared, He ushered in the era for the sankirtana movement. It is also said that for ten thousand years this era will continue. This means that simply by accepting the sankirtana movement and chanting the Hare Krsna maha-mantra, the fallen souls of this Kali-yuga will be delivered. After the Battle of Kuruksetra, at which Bhagavad-gita was spoken, Kali-yuga continues for 432,000 years, of which only 5,000 years have passed. Thus there is still a balance of 427,000 years to come. Of these 427,000 years, the 10,000 years of the sankirtana movement inaugurated by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu 500 years ago provide the opportunity for the fallen souls of Kali-yuga to take to the Krsna consciousness movement, chant the Hare Krsna maha-mantra and thus be delivered from the clutches of material existence and return home, back to Godhead. ---------------------------- Ramesvara: Srila Prabhupada, you said yesterday, or a few days ago, that this movement will go on unimpeded for ten thousand years, so... Prabhupada: Yes, provided we keep it uncontaminated. You should take this opportunity. --------------------- Srila Prabhupada: Rather, this movement, as I have now began with my disciples, European, American boys, they're...They are not very satisfied, the present politicians. They are not very satisfied. They don't want. Everywhere this, more or less the same mentality, but it is our duty on behalf of Krsna to push on this movement. So we are doing, and we are getting response. It is not without response. It will increase.That is also stated, that for ten thousand years Krsna consciousness movement will increase. Yes. Syamasundara: Ten thousand years. Prabhupada: Within ten thousand years, if they become Krsna conscious, then life is successful.After ten thousand years, the gloomy picture of Kali-yuga will come. Still there is time. Ten thousand years is not small period. So we have passed five thousand years. So still ten thousand. We have got to the fifteen thousand years. Kali-yuga's duration of life is four hundred thousand, four hundred and twenty-seven thousand. So Srila Prabhupada was writing in his purport to the Srimad Bhagavatam about how it has been predicted that that the sankirtan movement of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu will go for 10,000 years from the birth of Sri Caitanya. I don't think Iskcon existed back then. So Iskcon may or may not last that long. The prediction wasn't about Iskcon, it's about Sri Caitanya's sankirtan movement. If you claim it is about Iskcon then you have to explain how you exclude all the previous acaryas and vaisnavas from that prediction. Was not Bhaktisiddhanta part of that prediction? Or Bhaktivinoda? Or Narottama Das Thakura or Baladeva Vidyabhusana? Also I hear the claim about saying Srila Prabhupada said his books would be law books for 10,000 years. I think it was Babhru a few years ago who pointed out that the quote is nowhere to be found, so until proven otherwise it carries no weight. Since Srila Prabhupada's books are not law books it seems to me that if someone wanted to claim that Srila Prabhupada actually said that, then they should offer direct proof due to Prabhupada's books being theology, not law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murali_Mohan_das Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 When Srila Prabhupada talks about "ten thousand years" it seems like a wonderful prospect. When *some* (not all) of His Divine Grace's purported supporters talk about "ten thousand years", it starts sounding like the Fourth Reich. It's nice to see some clarification from Srila Prabhupada that this is not an automatic occurrence, but, rather, depends on our purity (and our ability to preserve the purity of Krishna Consciousness as presented by him). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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