sevabhakta Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 If Sri Krsna is ever expanding his Lila, there would always be something new. His bodily effulgence is transcendental. Each potential desire for ever fresh experiences with another living entity emerges and expands from his own being, and this is what his Brahmajyoti or Bodily effulgence is all about. So each new Living entity who he creates for a NEW relationship and experience is a pleasurable even for him. So just by being manifest from his effulgence, we begin to please him, and thus our original constitutional position is servant of Krsna, because pleasing is serving. Of course the freshness comes from each individual entity emerging with free will, so we may, like I did, choose to enjoy Maha Maya. This serves Krsna's pleasure in an indirect way for him, for he experiences separation from us. We are never not serving his pleasure. The difference is what do WE REALIZE. By our birth on the borderline, and choosing Maha Maya, we are given the chance to realize a better way to enjoy. Eternal enjoyment, not just temporary enjoyment. And when we realize this opportunity, Krsna's pleasure is INCREASED. So becoming ACTIVE in our service to him is the first step for us enjoying eternal pleasure according to our constitutional position. But from HIS point of view, we have been pleasing him, one way or another, since before WE can remember. SB 3.26.18 Purport Since the living entity is constitutionally part and parcel of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the Lord is very affectionate to the living entities. Unfortunately, when the living entity is bewildered or illusioned by the external energy, he becomes forgetful of his eternal relationship with the Lord, but as soon as he becomes aware of his constitutional position, he is liberated. The minute independence of the conditioned soul is exhibited by his marginal position. If he likes, he can forget the Supreme Personality of Godhead and come into the material existence with a false ego to lord it over material nature, but if he likes he can turn his face to the service of the Lord. The individual living entity is given that independence. His conditional life is ended and his life becomes successful as soon as he turns his face to the Lord, but by misusing his independence he enters into material existence. Yet the Lord is so kind that, as Supersoul, He always remains with the conditioned soul. The concern of the Lord is neither to enjoy nor to suffer from the material body. He remains with the jéva simply as sanction-giver and witness so that the living entity can receive the results of his activities, good or bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murali_Mohan_das Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 So each new Living entity who he creates for a NEW relationship and experience is a pleasurable even for him.... By our birth on the borderline, and choosing Maha Maya, we are given the chance to realize a better way to enjoy. Eternal enjoyment, not just temporary enjoyment. And when we realize this opportunity, Krsna's pleasure is INCREASED. Overall, you make some nice points. However, Sri Krishna is very clear that he did *not* "create" us, nor does the soul itself ever take birth, though it may enter a body. We have always existed as individual units of consciousness. Within the Brahmajyoti, all traces of individuality disappear, but we still remain discrete units of consciousness (inconceivably). It's better to use terms, like "emerge" (as you do elsewhere in your posting) when referring to our entrance into the material energy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevabhakta Posted October 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Overall, you make some nice points. However, Sri Krishna is very clear that he did *not* "create" us, nor does the soul itself ever take birth, though it may enter a body. We have always existed as individual units of consciousness. Within the Brahmajyoti, all traces of individuality disappear, but we still remain discrete units of consciousness (inconceivably). It's better to use terms, like "emerge" (as you do elsewhere in your posting) when referring to our entrance into the material energy. I like your idea of using "emerge". Of course in Jaiva Dharma we are told that no words we use to describe this inconceivable occurance will suffice because the words we use are from our material reference points. We were only supposed to hear a good enough analogy to start us on our way to sadhana. The word inconceivable is the key here. Still, if I wish to be effective in waking anyone up, emerge is much better. Thanks! However, since I am trying to make the point of Krsna having something ever fresh and new, Create is the best word. He creates the fulfillment of his desires too. Of course inconceivably, but creation is the best analogy to me. Hare Krsna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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