Redsox Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Technically, He is not up there in the sky, and by He , I mean God. Still, philosophically speaking, It is an interesting question to ponder. when you look back at your life, how far you have come just in this life, do you think you had any control over what had happened in the past? Was it all just planned out? the ups , the downs, or was it just you doing best in the circumstances that you were put in and somehow somethings worked out and others didn't? What do you think? do you think once you say you surrender to Him , he has a plan for you. Or do you think he only plans it out only when you truly surrender to Him.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHari Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 The modes of nature are meant to fix us up too. We put our hand in a flame, and it hurts. Then we won't do it again. So it was good that it hurt, otherwise we'd leave it in the flame until it was charcoal. It's all Krsna's mercy, no matter how bad it seems at the time. But surrendering shifts us into another gear. A faster gear. We can skip getting burned by karma so many many times. It's like the picture on the cover of the Bhagavad-gita. When Krsna drives the chariot then success is assured; otherwise the horse senses drag us anywhere and everywhere, and we will end up getting burned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murali_Mohan_das Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Planning? Don't you mean *playing*? God doesn't need to scheme like the rest of us. He's beyond all time and space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murali_Mohan_das Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 I don't know if I've ever posted these lyrics on the forum, but they seem appropriate for this topic: Beautiful Play Rough Demo: <table bgcolor="#000000" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td><embed quality="high" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" bgcolor="#000" width="328" height="94" src="http://res0.esnips.com/escentral/images/widgets/flash/esnips_player.swf" flashvars="theTheme=blue&autoPlay=no&theFile=http://www.esnips.com//nsdoc/9f9c1216-84d2-4b81-9e74-4cacb95ddb44&theName=Maitreya-Beautiful_Play-ROUGH&thePlayerURL=http://res0.esnips.com/escentral/images/widgets/flash/mp3WidgetPlayer.swf"></embed></td></tr><tr><td><table cellpadding="2" style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; padding-left:2px; color:#FFFFFF; text-decoration:none ; ; font-size:10px; font-weight:bold"><tr><td><a style="color:#FFFFFF; text-decoration:none " href="http://www.esnips.com/CreateWidgetAction.ns?type=0&objectid=9f9c1216-84d2-4b81-9e74-4cacb95ddb44"> Get this widget </a></td><td style="font-size:7px; font-weight:normal;">|</td><td align="center"><a align="center" style="color:#FFFFFF; text-decoration:none " href="http://www.esnips.com/doc/9f9c1216-84d2-4b81-9e74-4cacb95ddb44/Maitreya-Beautiful_Play-ROUGH/?widget=flash_player_esnips_blue"> Track details </a></td><td style="font-size:7px; font-weight:normal;">|</td><td><a align="center" style="color:#FF6600; text-decoration:none" href="http://www.esnips.com//adserver/?action=visit&cid=player_dna&url=/socialdna"> eSnips Social DNA </a></td></tr></table></td></tr></table> by MM 05/26/2005 Oh it's such a beautiful play By far the best that I've seen to date I loved the part where you got engaged I loved the part where you got enraged It's been surreal since the towers fell A strange mixture of heaven and hell And all the joys I could never tell In the face of a thirty-foot swell Who'd believe you were to lose your leg Who'd believe she'd be the one to beg Too many round holes for this square peg Too many vows on which to renege Oh it's such a beautiful play And it gets better now every day Somehow we've got to find a way To say the things that we need to say And as the cat gnaws on his rat [he really was, as I wrote this part] I have nobody left to combat And memories I'd strained to supress Flood my mind as I start to regress Apologies I could never speak All the compassion that I used to seek And as I slowly start to weep For two dumb kids who got in too deep What difference does it make if freedom's destroyed When of judgment and good sense we are all devoid Just be thankful you're gainfully employed And take a deep breath when you get annoyed Oh it's such a beautiful play Perfect in every way Keep the faith each and every day Good things come to those that pray What's the point of keeping yourself in seclusion What's the point of hanging on to your delusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murali_Mohan_das Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 What's the point of keeping yourself in seclusion What's the point of hanging on to your delusion Just to clarify, lest I sound more preachy than I am: most of the songs I write are messages to myself--to my own mind. They are reminders of things I find to be important which I leave for myself. Of course, some are mundane love songs (which can often also be taken as love songs to the Divine), and others, no doubt, are cries of desperation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redsox Posted November 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 He's beyond all time and space. What does that mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murali_Mohan_das Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 What does that mean? "Planning" is something we do for the "future", isn't it? If God is beyond time and space, then "future" becomes meaningless, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahak Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 next rasslin drop is ours, He is plannen counter measures. He got us last time, made us forget for an instant. Uh oh, now I did it. mahak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvin Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 How did Krsna convinced Radha that he could draw circles on her breasts? How did Krsna persuaded the damsels of Vraja to climb up the tree naked after bathing in the river Yamuna? In short, Krsna is always thinking of ways to trick his devotees into doing something out of the norm. He enjoys it yet what he`s trying to do to us is harmless. It`s different when Krsna tricked Putana into sucking her breasts. He took away her air-life in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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