dattaswami Posted March 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 if you worship a murti thinking it to be inert then you become inert object(which is a natural law what u think u become) .......but a murti is never inert ........whenever a murti is placed in a new temple a very eloborate ritual of "prana prathista " is undertaken to install the prana(life ) of devi/devata or avatara or guru into their respective mur age..... Statue eats food! A devotee referred to a story of a devoted boy by whose innocent devotion, the statue became live God and ate the offered food. Swami replied: several people create Stories. I do not think that this is possible because no sincere devotee who can tell only the truth can say like this in spite of hectic devotion. There is no end to these stories. But you can draw a very good conclusion from this story. This means that the statue never eats the food. The statue has to be converted in to human form to eat the offered food. This finally means that the human form of God alone can eat the offered food and therefore the real service can be done only to the human form and not the statue. In the story the devoted boy has taken the correct meaning of Nivedanam which is offering food to God. He proved that the daily offering of food to God done by his father was not correct and he taught the truth to his father. Of course, God has the super power to eat the food even through the statue without converting the statue in to human form. Such special type of eating or conversion of statue in to human form involves the unnecessary use of the special super power because God is available in human form to eat the food offered by you. At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami Anil <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Antony</st1:city></st1:place> www.universal-spirituality.org Universal Spirituality for World Peace antonyanil@universal-spirituality.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dattaswami Posted March 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 God's Management of deeds of a soul God acts as Father as well as the teacher (Guru) in the case of any soul. Since God created the soul, He is the Father. But at the same time He is the teacher who trains every soul to come up in the spiritual path. Generally in the world the father is different since teacher is separate. But here in the case of any soul the real Father and the real teacher is only one and that is God. Therefore, God is always kind as Father and is strict and harsh as teacher. But the harshness of the teacher is apparent only and in reality the harshness is kindness only. Hence, basically God is always kind. God appears harsh as the teacher and appears kind as Father. Since, the teacher is basically kind even in his harsh attitude also, God is always kind in reality or in the basic sense. The souls have done continuous sins and continuous good deeds and if the results are to be given based on the same sequence and span of time, there will be continuous punishments for long time and continuous happiness for another span of long time. Then it will be summer for one year and winter for one year. But the kindest God has re-arranged our results in such manner so that our human life is made with alternative good and bad results so that there will be summer for two months and winter for two months so that the two years are made with alternative couple of months of summer and winter. Neither summer nor winter bores with continuity and both summer and winter with the span of one year each gets exhausted. The punishments are used to remove the ignorance and happiness is given as an interval between punishments. The punishments are also selected in such a way so that their intensity is suitable to the frequency of requirement for the transformation in the life again and again. This means that a particular soul requires a particular punishment of a specified intensity suitable to the degree of ignorance of the soul and based on the same, the duration of the punishment also varies from one soul to the other. According to the requirement, a suitable portion from the result of the sin is cut like a piece from a large cake. The size of the piece depends on the requirement of the nature of the soul. The sizes of the pieces of the salt (bad result) and sweet (Good result) cakes depend upon the duration of treatment and interval required by the nature of the soul. The salt cake is a medicine for the ignorance and the sweet cake is the food during the treatment for the patient-soul. The left over cakes are used for the external hell and heaven in the upper world. Whatever may be the place (hell or heaven or earth), the punishments are given for the treatment of ignorance only. In the earth the punishments are used as medicines but in the hell the punishments are used as the final surgery for removing the ignorance. In any case only the kindness of God is always reflected. Thus, God can be seen as Father or Teacher or Doctor giving medicines or surgeon doing operation and in all angles only the kindness is reflected always. He is always working constantly to uplift every soul. God works as Teacher, Doctor and Surgeon and at the same time the God with an attitude of the Father also observes the possible limit up to which the soul can withstand the treatment. Once the limit is reached, God will regain the attitude of Father withdrawing Himself from the attitude of Teacher or Doctor or Surgeon and as a Father He starts giving the food of happiness for some time. Remember that He is using the bad and good results of the deeds of the soul only in every action to uplift the soul. The deeds are done by the soul in a free atmosphere and God has no trace of interference and the same time all this treatment and food arranged alternatively makes the life cycle quite interesting to the soul without boring since continuity of anything is absent. Otherwise the soul would have got bored and the Samskara (strong feeling) of boring should have followed the soul and the soul must have developed repulsion to this world as soon as it is born in this world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHari Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Bhagavad-gita 9.25:<BLOCKQUOTE><CENTER><FONT COLOR=RED>yAnti deva-vratA devAn pitRRn yAnti pitR-vratAH bhUtAni yAnti bhUtejyA yAnti mad-yAjino 'pi mAm </CENTER> yAnti--go; deva-vratAH--worshipers of demigods; devAn--to the demigods; pitRRn--to the ancestors; yAnti--go; pitR-vratAH--worshipers of ancestors; bhUtAni--to the ghosts and spirits; yAnti--go; bhUta-ijyAH--worshipers of ghosts and spirits; yAnti--go; mat--My; yAjinaH--devotees; api--but; mAm--unto Me. <B></FONT> Those who worship the demigods will take birth among the demigods; those who worship the ancestors go to the ancestors; those who worship ghosts and spirits will take birth among such beings; and those who worship Me will live with Me. PURPORT</B> If one has any desire to go to the moon, the sun or any other planet, one can attain the desired destination by following specific Vedic principles recommended for that purpose, such as the process technically known as darza-paurNamAsI. These are vividly described in the fruitive activities portion of the Vedas, which recommends a specific worship of demigods situated on different heavenly planets. Similarly, one can attain the PitA planets by performing a specific yajJa. Similarly, one can go to many ghostly planets and become a YakSa, RakSa or PizAca. PizAca worship is called "black arts" or "black magic." There are many men who practice this black art, and they think that it is spiritualism, but such activities are completely materialistic. Similarly, a pure devotee, who worships the Supreme Personality of Godhead only, achieves the planets of VaikuNTha and KRSNaloka without a doubt. It is very easy to understand through this important verse that if by simply worshiping the demigods one can achieve the heavenly planets, or by worshiping the PitAs achieve the PitA planets, or by practicing the black arts achieve the ghostly planets, why can the pure devotee not achieve the planet of KRSNa or ViSNu? Unfortunately many people have no information of these sublime planets where KRSNa and ViSNu live, and because they do not know of them they fall down. Even the impersonalists fall down from the brahmajyoti. The KRSNa consciousness movement is therefore distributing sublime information to the entire human society to the effect that by simply chanting the Hare KRSNa mantra one can become perfect in this life and go back home, back to Godhead. </BLOCKQUOTE> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHari Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Srimad Bhagavatam 3.10.28-29:<BLOCKQUOTE><CENTER><FONT COLOR=RED>deva-sargaz cASTa-vidho vibudhAH pitaro 'surAH gandharvApsarasaH siddhA yakSa-rakSAMsi cAraNAH <b>bhUta</b>-preta-pizAcAz ca vidyAdhrAH kinnarAdayaH dazaite vidurAkhyAtAH sargAs te vizva-sRk-kRtAH </CENTER> deva-sargaH--creation of the demigods; ca--also; aSTa-vidhaH--eight kinds; vibudhAH--the demigods; pitaraH--the forefathers; asurAH--the demons; gandharva--the expert artisans in the higher planets; apsarasaH--the angels; siddhAH--persons who are perfect in mystic powers; yakSa--the superprotectors; rakSAMsi--giants; cAraNAH--the celestial singers; <b>bhUta--jinn</b>; preta--evil spirits; pizAcAH--attendant spirits; ca--also; vidyAdhrAH--the celestial denizens named VidyAdharas; kinnara--superhuman beings; AdayaH--and others; daza ete--all these ten (creations); vidura--O Vidura; AkhyAtAH--described; sargAH--creations; te--unto you; vizva-sRk--the creator of the universe (BrahmA); kRtAH--done by him. <B></FONT> The creation of the demigods is of eight varieties: (1) the demigods, (2) the forefathers, (3) the asuras, or demons, (4) the Gandharvas and ApsarAs, or angels, (5) the YakSas and RAkSasas, (6) the Siddhas, CAraNas and VidyAdharas, (7) the <b>BhUtas</b>, Pretas and PizAcas, and (8) the superhuman beings, celestial singers, etc. All are created by BrahmA, the creator of the universe. </BLOCKQUOTE> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHari Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 After seeing these last two posts (clearly about ghosts), the musings of Datta Swami can no longer be taken seriously. He translates 'ghosts' with an offense against prasadam. I think he is just another jihad detractor, a washed-out Hindu convert. He doesn't mention his parampara or guru because he has none. They really think we're all fools. They can't even imagine how wrong they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 You people are debating with an automated website copy paste. I don't even know why you are talking with him. He isn't answering any of you, he is pasting articles from his website back at you. Anyway, enjoy talking to the walls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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