God is there?

[subramanya.pavan]

HI members,

 

people says everything created by god, generally people do goood things well as bad also, why god punishing us , according to indian mythology, a person who did good , he will go to heaven , r else hell, ?....

 

WHERE MY QUESTION IS a FATHER WILL DO HARM TO HIS SONS?? IF A BOY IS DOING WRONG IN PRESENCE OF HISFATHER , FATHER DEFINATELY STOPS THAT, SO IF U R DOING MISTAKE FOR THE FIRST TIME, GOD(FATHER) CAN WARN US, WHY DIDNT HE???, WHAT ABOUT KARMA???

,U R DOING WRONG MEANS,U HAVE TO EXPERIENCE THAT IN NEXT LIFE...

WHY ALL THESE THINGS ,

[Guest]

God does not deal with the actions of the being. Karma is what gives the result for example the punishment. Its free will. God does not harm whats His.

[indulekhadasi]

We wanted to enjoy separately from God. Krishna cautioned us but we did not listen. Just like a small boy wants to go outside in the cold without proper covering, the father will repeatedly warn him and tell him not to. But if the child does not listen and he goes outside, when his body freezes up we cannot blame the father. We can only blame the son for not listening to his father, right?

 

So whatever difficulties we are experiencing that is simply the effect of not listening to Krishna. Rather than enjoy with Krishna we wanted to enjoy in this material world. Little did we know or care for all the sadness that comes with the so-called temporary enjoyment.

[xexon]

Your answer will depend on what you think God is.

 

As a deity, God is seen as a fatherly figure endowed with some amazingly familar human qualities. Anger, for example.

 

The God I see is unmanifested energy, not given to any human qualities. And certainly not judgemental.

 

Religions have to give people some kind of mental imagery to lock on to. The concept of what God is, is beyond most people's ability to get a purchase on. So we recreate God in our own image for the sake of understanding.

 

In reality, there is nobody looking over your shoulder.

 

In reality, there's no one but you.

 

 

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[Dark Warrior]

 

We wanted to enjoy separately from God. Krishna cautioned us but we did not listen. Just like a small boy wants to go outside in the cold without proper covering, the father will repeatedly warn him and tell him not to. But if the child does not listen and he goes outside, when his body freezes up we cannot blame the father. We can only blame the son for not listening to his father, right?

 

So whatever difficulties we are experiencing that is simply the effect of not listening to Krishna. Rather than enjoy with Krishna we wanted to enjoy in this material world. Little did we know or care for all the sadness that comes with the so-called temporary enjoyment.

 

I respectfully disagree. This sounds too similar to the Christian theory of the Fall of Man, and is not authenticated by Scripture of Sanatana Dharma. The obvious flaw is - If we were living with Sri Krishna once, we must have been exposed to His splendour. So, were we actually able to resist His splendour and go in search of something else? Then this makes the Lord appear as though He isn't attractive enough.

 

Vedas and Upanishads say that the transmigration of the Self is eternal. There was no beginning to us being in Samsara, just as there is no beginning to Narayana. There is only an end, ie, when we achieve moksha.

 

Suffering arises due to attachment. Sri Krishna has explained it quite clearly in Srimad Bhagavad Gita.