manjucv Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 I came across the site which says there is a foot print of vishnu in mecca is it real? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukarma55 Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Really interesting.. Thanks for sharing it with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theist Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 And there is a huge footprint of Krsna one can see at Radha Damodhara temple in Vrndavan. If you have ten rupees they will bring it out and let you look at it. Looks like Krishna must have stepped in some plaster 5,000 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baobabtree Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 And there is a huge footprint of Krsna one can see at Radha Damodhara temple in Vrndavan. If you have ten rupees they will bring it out and let you look at it. Looks like Krishna must have stepped in some plaster 5,000 years ago. Actually a large stone some 400 years ago. Come on now, isn't Bhagwan capable of anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theist Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Actually a large stone some 400 years ago. Come on now, isn't Bhagwan capable of anything? Surely He is. But rupee hungry temple managers are capable of a lot also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohini108 Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 I came across the site which says there is a foot print of vishnu in mecca is it real? Saturday, May 3, 2008 Lord Vishnu footprints in Mecca Vishnu Padam in mecca or foot prints of Mohamed?One of the ancient vedic scripture Harihareshwar Mahatmya mentions that Lord Vishnu's footprints are consecrated at three holy sites, namely Gaya, Mecca and Shukla Teertha but it is very amazing that it is also there in Mecca - the most holy pilgrimage place of all the Muslims. This can suggest that although, the Muslims consider that the divine footprints are the footprints of Mohamed, according to the above Vedic reference they actually worship and bow down to the lotus footprints Lord Vamana. A further nice explanation is given by Sri Nandanandana. "Worshipping such carved, holy foot impressions is a holy Vedic custom which convert Muslims are inadvertently perpetuating. But in doing this they delude themselves and mislead others that these foot-impressions which are on reverential display in several mosques and tombs around the world are in fact Muhammad's own. There are several snags in this argument. Firstly worshipping a foot -impression amounts to idolatry and should therefore be taboo for a true Muslim. Secondly Muhhamad disclaimed having performed any miracles. Therefore there can be no foot-impression of his on stone. Thirdly foot-impressions must always be in pairs like shoes. Yet in most of these shrines, it is usually a single footprint which suggests that Muhammad walked on only one foot. Another question that crops up is whether the foot-impression is of the same size and foot in all the shrines. The fact appears to be that when the Vedic Kaba shrine in Mecca was invaded by Muhammad, the pairs of foot impressions of Vedic deities there were plundered and later traded to the gullible and devout as Muhammad's own footprints for some favour, reward or personal gain by unscrupulous muslims. That is why they are single and not in pairs". One thing comes to mind is was the footprint is really vishnu padam since idolatory is forbidden in muslim community this leaves a doubt in every ones mind and also from the vedic scriptures and documents it tells that the indian subcontinent was double than the size what is now which expands till what is now called afganisthan? so was really the subcontinent was invaded by muslims is the foot print of prophet is really a foot print of vishnu? though the answers are lost in time deriving the conslusion is absolutely not plausable Muslims from all over the world pay homage to this shrine. This shrine is actually the pedestal of Brahma. Notice that the word, Ibrahim is actually a corruption of the word, Brahma. The octogonal grill which is a Vedic design, protects the holy footprints which represent the start of the creation nearly 2000 million years ago. Before it was captured by the Muslims it was an international shrine of the Vedic trinity. Source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princegoutham Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 I came across the site which says there is a foot print of vishnu in mecca is it real? There is Lord Shiva Linga In Kaaba Not foot print of vishnu ok Lord shiva is Maha kal He has been in all Times ok Even.Lord Rama,Krishna all Worshipped him He is dev adi dev maha Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureIndian Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 How would we know for sure that there is a Shiva Linga inside the Kaaba? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogesh Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Arabic tradition has lost trace of the founding of the Kaaba temple. The discovery of the Vikramaditya inscription affords a clue. King Vikramaditya is known for his great devotion to Lord Mahadev (Siva). At Ujjain (India), the capital of Vikramaditya, exists the famous shrine of Mahankal, i.e., of Lord Shankara (Siva) associated with Vikramaditya. Since according to the Vikramaditya inscription he spread the Vedic religion, who else but he could have founded the Kaaba temple in Mecca? A few miles away from Mecca is a big signboard which bars the entry of any non-Muslim into the area. This is a reminder of the days when the Kaaba was stormed and captured solely for the newly established faith of Islam. The object in barring entry of non-Muslims was obviously to prevent its recapture. As the pilgrim proceeds towards Mecca he is asked to shave his head and beard and to don special sacred attire that consists of two seamless sheets of white cloth. One is to be worn round the waist and the other over the shoulders. Both these rites are remnants of the old Vedic practice of entering Hindu temples clean- and with holy seamless white sheets. The main shrine in Mecca, which houses the Siva emblem, is known as the Kaaba. It is clothed in a black shroud. That custom also originates from the days when it was thought necessary to discourage its recapture by camouflaging it. According to the Encyclopaedia Britannica, the Kaaba has 360 images. Traditional accounts mention that one of the deities among the 360 destroyed when the place was stormed, was that of Saturn; another was of the Moon and yet another was one called Allah. That shows that in the Kaaba the Arabs worshipped the nine planets in pre-Islamic days. In India the practice of 'Navagraha' puja, that is worship of the nine planets, is still in vogue. Two of these nine are Saturn and Moon. In India the crescent moon is always painted across the forehead of the Siva symbol. Since that symbol was associated with the Siva emblem in Kaaba it came to be grafted on the flag of Islam. Another Hindu tradition associated with the Kaaba is that of the sacred stream Ganga (sacred waters of the Ganges river). According to the Hindu tradition Ganga is also inseparable from the Shiva emblem as the crescent moon. Wherever there is a Siva emblem, Ganga must co-exist. True to that association a sacred fount exists near the Kaaba. Its water is held sacred because it has been traditionally regarded as Ganga since pre-Islamic times (Zam-Zam water). [Note: Even today, Muslim pilgrims who go to the Kaaba for Haj regard this Zam-Zam water with reverence and take some bottled water with them as sacred water.] Muslim pilgrims visiting the Kaaba temple go around it seven times. In no other mosque does the circumambulation prevail. Hindus invariably circumambulate around their deities. This is yet another proof that the Kaaba shrine is a pre-Islamic Indian Shiva temple where the Hindu practice of circumambulation is still meticulously observed. The practice of taking seven steps- known as Saptapadi in Sanskrit- is associated with Hindu marriage ceremony and fire worship. The culminating rite in a Hindu marriage enjoins upon the bride and groom to go round the sacred fire four times (but misunderstood by many as seven times). Since "Makha" means fire, the seven circumambulations also prove that Mecca was the seat of Indian fire-worship in the West Asia. It might come as a stunning revelation to many that the word 'ALLAH' itself is Sanskrit. In Sanskrit language Allah, Akka and Amba are synonyms. They signify a goddess or mother. The term 'ALLAH' forms part of Sanskrit chants invoking goddess Durga, also known as Bhavani, Chandi and Mahishasurmardini. The Islamic word for God is., therefore, not an innovation but the ancient Sanskrit appellation retained and continued by Islam. Allah means mother or goddess and mother goddess. One Koranic verse is an exact translation of a stanza in the Yajurveda. This was pointed out by the great research scholar Pandit Satavlekar of Pardi in one of his articles. [Note: Another scholar points out that the following teaching from the Koran is exactly similar to the teaching of the Kena Upanishad (1.7). The Koran: "Sight perceives Him not. But He perceives men's sights; for He is the knower of secrets , the Aware." Kena Upanishad: "That which cannot be seen by the eye but through which the eye itself sees, know That to be Brahman (God) and not what people worship here (in the manifested world)." A simplified meaning of both the above verses reads: God is one and that He is beyond man's sensory experience.] The identity of Unani and Ayurvedic systems shows that Unani is just the Arabic term for the Ayurvedic system of healing taught to them and administered in Arabia when Arabia formed part of the Indian empire. It will now be easy to comprehend the various Hindu customs still prevailing in West Asian countries even after the existence of Islam during the last 1300 years. Let us review some Hindu traditions which exist as the core of Islamic practice. The Hindus have a pantheon of 33 gods. People in Asia Minor too worshipped 33 gods before the spread of Islam. The lunar calendar was introduced in West Asia during the Indian rule. The Muslim month 'Safar' signifying the 'extra' month (Adhik Maas) in the Hindu calendar. The Muslim month Rabi is the corrupt form of Ravi meaning the sun because Sanskrit 'V' changes into Prakrit 'B' (Prakrit being the popular version of Sanskrit language). The Muslim sanctity for Gyrahwi Sharif is nothing but the Hindu Ekadashi (Gyrah = elevan or Gyaarah). Both are identical in meaning. The Islamic practice of Bakari Eed derives from the Go-Medh and Ashva-Medh Yagnas or sacrifices of Vedic times. Eed in Sanskrit means worship. The Islamic word Eed for festive days, signifying days of worship, is therefore a pure Sanskrit word. The word MESH in the Hindu zodiac signifies a lamb. Since in ancient times the year used to begin with the entry of the sun in Aries, the occasion was celebrated with mutton feasting. That is the origin of the Bakari Eed festival. [Note: The word Bakari is an Indian language word for a goat.] Since Eed means worship and Griha means 'house', the Islamic word Idgah signifies a 'House of worship' which is the exact Sanskrit connotation of the term. Similarly the word 'Namaz' derives from two Sanskrit roots 'Nama' and 'Yajna' (NAMa yAJna) meaning bowing and worshipping. Vedic descriptions about the moon, the different stellar constellations and the creation of the universe have been incorporated from the Vedas in Koran part 1 chapter 2, stanza 113, 114, 115, and 158, 189, chapter 9, stanza 37 and chapter 10, stanzas 4 to 7. Recital of the Namaz five times a day owes its origin to the Vedic injunction of Panchmahayagna (five daily worship- Panch-Maha-Yagna) which is part of the daily Vedic ritual prescribed for all individuals. Muslims are enjoined cleanliness of five parts of the body before commencing prayers. This derives from the Vedic injuction 'Shareer Shydhyartham Panchanga Nyasah'. Four months of the year are regarded as very sacred in Islamic custom. The devout are enjoined to abstain from plunder and other evil deeds during that period. This originates in the Chaturmasa i.e., the four-month period of special vows and austerities in Hindu tradition. Shabibarat is the corrupt form of Shiva Vrat and Shiva Ratra. Since the Kaaba has been an important centre of Shiva (Siva) worship from times immemorial, the Shivaratri festival used to be celebrated there with great gusto. It is that festival which is signified by the Islamic word Shabibarat. Encyclopaedias tell us that there are inscriptions on the side of the Kaaba walls. What they are, no body has been allowed to study, according to the correspondence I had with an American scholar of Arabic. But according to hearsay at least some of those inscriptions are in Sanskrit, and some of them are stanzas from the Bhagavad Gita. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashok009 Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 VERY INTERESTING WRITE UP, THE EXPLANATIONS SEEM TO BE VERY LOGICAL....IS THERE ANY MORE PROOF THAT THE PLACE WAS A HINDU TEMPLE......I ALSO READ SOMEWHERE THAT TAJ MAHAL IN AGRA WAS ALSO A TEMPLE CONVERTED AND THAT DURING INDIRA GANDHIS TIME THEY FOUND SOME MURTIS AND SHE ORDERED EVERYTHING TO BE SEALED. WHY WOULD WE NOT WANT TO KNOW THAT TRUTH. AFTER ALL WE ARE A FREE COUNTRY NOW. CAN ANYONE THROW SOME MORE LIGHT ON MECCA / KABBA. THANKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogesh Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Art Photo # 1 As in the headquarters of Christianity (namely the Vatican in Rome) at the headquarters of Islam too (namely in the Kaaba temple in Mecca city of Saudi Arabia) the ancient Hindu Shiva Linga may still be seen. This cylindrical stone, rendered immovable for security by being fixed in the outer corner of a wall, is the object of reverence of all Muslims. Here Muslims still continue the seven perambulations in the age old Hindu style except that they move anti-clockwise. White silver foil shrouds the stone. The oval uncovered central portion gives the pilgrims an idea of how the stone looks. Syrians had once carried away the stone as a war trophy and kept it for 22 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogesh Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 I ALSO READ SOMEWHERE THAT TAJ MAHAL IN AGRA WAS ALSO A TEMPLE CONVERTED AND THAT DURING INDIRA GANDHIS TIME THEY FOUND SOME MURTIS AND SHE ORDERED EVERYTHING TO BE SEALED. WHY WOULD WE NOT WANT TO KNOW THAT TRUTH. AFTER ALL WE ARE A FREE COUNTRY NOW. - Ashok 009 "An Architect Looks at the Taj Mahal Legend" by Marvin Mills, is a great review of the information available on the Taj Mahal and raises some very interesting questions that make it obvious that the Taj could not have been built the way or during the time that history presents, which makes it more like a fable than accurate history. This suggests a construction date of 1359 AD, about 300 years before Shah Jahan. The True Story of the Taj Mahal. This article by P. N. Oak (from Pune, India) provides an overview of his research and lists his 109 proofs of how the Taj Mahal was a pre-existing Hindu temple palace, built not by Shah Jahan but originally at least 500 years earlier in 1155 AD by Raja Paramardi Dev as a Vedic temple. Mr. P. N. Oak is another who has done much research into this topic, and such a study is hardly complete without considering his findings. The evidence he presents here is a most interesting read, whether you agree with it all or not, or care for some of the anger in his sentiment. Mr. Oak has presented his own conclusions in his books, most notably Taj Mahal--The True Story (ISBN: 0-9611614-4-2). The Letter of Aurangzeb ordering repairs on the old Taj Mahal in the year just before it is said to have been completed. The Badshahnama is the history written by the Emperor's own chronicler. This page shows how Aurangzeb had acquired the Taj from the previous owner, Jai Singh, grandson of Raja Mansingh, after selecting this site for the burial of Queen Mumtaz. "The Truth Shall Set You Free" Hare Krsna/Krishna Jay Sirla Prabhupada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princegoutham Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 How would we know for sure that there is a Shiva Linga inside the Kaaba? PureIndian I got proof of Videos which shows that its Shiva Lingam Even Muslims Agree Both look same but then don't know if its the same But its Not Vishnu Padam dont make fool of out your self I am telling to all who believe that is Vishnu Padam if you want i will give you the link which i have posted in the Google Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princegoutham Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 I ALSO READ SOMEWHERE THAT TAJ MAHAL IN AGRA WAS ALSO A TEMPLE CONVERTED AND THAT DURING INDIRA GANDHIS TIME THEY FOUND SOME MURTIS AND SHE ORDERED EVERYTHING TO BE SEALED. WHY WOULD WE NOT WANT TO KNOW THAT TRUTH. AFTER ALL WE ARE A FREE COUNTRY NOW. - Ashok 009 "An Architect Looks at the Taj Mahal Legend" by Marvin Mills, is a great review of the information available on the Taj Mahal and raises some very interesting questions that make it obvious that the Taj could not have been built the way or during the time that history presents, which makes it more like a fable than accurate history. This suggests a construction date of 1359 AD, about 300 years before Shah Jahan. The True Story of the Taj Mahal. This article by P. N. Oak (from Pune, India) provides an overview of his research and lists his 109 proofs of how the Taj Mahal was a pre-existing Hindu temple palace, built not by Shah Jahan but originally at least 500 years earlier in 1155 AD by Raja Paramardi Dev as a Vedic temple. Mr. P. N. Oak is another who has done much research into this topic, and such a study is hardly complete without considering his findings. The evidence he presents here is a most interesting read, whether you agree with it all or not, or care for some of the anger in his sentiment. Mr. Oak has presented his own conclusions in his books, most notably Taj Mahal--The True Story (ISBN: 0-9611614-4-2). The Letter of Aurangzeb ordering repairs on the old Taj Mahal in the year just before it is said to have been completed. The Badshahnama is the history written by the Emperor's own chronicler. This page shows how Aurangzeb had acquired the Taj from the previous owner, Jai Singh, grandson of Raja Mansingh, after selecting this site for the burial of Queen Mumtaz. "The Truth Shall Set You Free" Hare Krsna/Krishna Jay Sirla Prabhupada TAJ MAHAL IS A Shiva Temple 1.The term Taj Mahal is a corrupt form of the sanskrit term TejoMahalay signifying a Shiva Temple. Agreshwar Mahadev i.e., The Lord of Agra was consecrated in it. 2.The tradition of removing the shoes before climbing the marble platform originates from pre Shahjahan times when the Taj was a Shiva Temple. Had the Taj originated as a tomb, shoes need not have to be removed because shoes are a necessity in a cemetery. 3.Visitors may notice that the base slab of the centotaph is the marble basement in plain white while its superstructure and the other three centotaphs on the two floors are covered with inlaid creeper designs. This indicates that the marble pedestal of the Shiva idol is still in place and Mumtaz's centotaphs are fake. 4.The pitchers carved inside the upper border of the marble lattice plus those mounted on it number 108-a number sacred in Hindu Temple tradition. 5.There are persons who are connected with the repair and the maintainance of the Taj who have seen the ancient sacred Shiva Linga and other idols sealed in the thick walls and in chambers in the secret, sealed red stone stories below the marble basement. The Archaeological Survey of India is keeping discretely, politely and diplomatically silent about it to the point of dereliction of its own duty to probe into hidden historical evidence. 6.In India there are 12 Jyotirlingas i.e., the outstanding Shiva Temples. The Tejomahalaya alias The Tajmahal appears to be one of them known as Nagnatheshwar since its parapet is girdled with Naga, i.e., Cobra figures. Ever since Shahjahan's capture of it the sacred temple has lost its Hindudom. 7.The famous Hindu treatise on architecture titled Vishwakarma Vastushastra mentions the 'Tej-Linga' amongst the Shivalingas i.e., the stone emblems of Lord Shiva, the Hindu deity. Such a Tej Linga was consecrated in the Taj Mahal, hence the term Taj Mahal alias Tejo Mahalaya. 8.Agra city, in which the Taj Mahal is located, is an ancient centre of Shiva worship. Its orthodox residents have through ages continued the tradition of worshipping at five Shiva shrines before taking the last meal every night especially during the month of Shravan. During the last few centuries the residents of Agra had to be content with worshipping at only four prominent Shiva temples viz., Balkeshwar, Prithvinath, Manakameshwar and Rajarajeshwar. They had lost track of the fifth Shiva deity which their forefathers worshipped. Apparently the fifth was Agreshwar Mahadev Nagnatheshwar i.e., The Lord Great God of Agra, The Deity of the King of Cobras, consecrated in the Tejomahalay alias Tajmahal. 9.The people who dominate the Agra region are Jats. Their name of Shiva is Tejaji. The Jat special issue of The Illustrated Weekly of India (June 28,1971) mentions that the Jats have the Teja Mandirs i.e., Teja Temples. This is because Teja-Linga is among the several names of the Shiva Lingas. From this it is apparent that the Taj-Mahal is Tejo-Mahalaya, The Great Abode of Tej. Sarvam Shiva Mayam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princegoutham Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 It might come as a stunning revelation to many that the word 'ALLAH' itself is Sanskrit. In Sanskrit language Allah, Akka and Amba are synonyms. They signify a goddess or mother. The term 'ALLAH' forms part of Sanskrit chants invoking goddess Durga, also known as Bhavani, Chandi and Mahishasurmardini. The Islamic word for God is., therefore, not an innovation but the ancient Sanskrit appellation retained and continued by Islam. Allah means mother or goddess and mother goddess. . <?xml:namespace prefix = o /> Shiva Lingam represents the Black Stone in HOLY Kaaba in MECCA , Here are the Correct Meaning of Allah Akka Means Goddess and AMBA means Goddess Allah means God Or Goddess what is Bhasma means IT means Ash or Vibhoothi (Bhasma) So Bhasma Allah means Ash or Vibhoothi God, Which lord shiva has all over his body And the CRECERSENT in Lord shiva Head and Islamic Cercersent are one and the same Swetha means Color white Aswetha means Color Black ( antonym to swetha) Nandi in front of Garbhagriha Abraham in front of Kaaba if you Visit any Shiva temple you will find Garbhagriha in the middle of the temple leaving lots of space for to circumambulate arround it And Garbhagriha will have only one entrance and no Windows Same way in kaaba also it has only one entrance and no Windows The King Vikramaditya inscription was found on a gold dish Hung inside the Kaaba shine in mecca Hindu prayer Ritual Namasakar Hindu prayer Ritual Namaz Aswetha means Black so in Arabic Aswad means Black The Black stone on the Kaaba is called Rukn-al-Aswad Go to google and see the Black stone of Kaaba which was brought from Heaven by Mohammad and every Muslim who visits Kaaba Worship it which is in the shape of shiv Linga Om Nama Shivya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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