Become A Pure Vaisnava And Liberate All Your Folks Past, Present And Future!!!

[krsna]

Relatives Liberated

 

 

 

 

Srila Prabhupada spoke of how the relatives of initiated devotes would be liberated, sometimes saying they would be liberated for 7, 14, 50 and 100 generations in the future and in the past. Here are some relevant quotes:

 

 

The family in which a maha-bhagavata takes his birth is fortunate because due to the birth of a first-grade devotee the members of the family, past, present and future up to one hundred generations, become liberated by the grace of the Lord, out of respect for His beloved devotee.

(From the purport to Srimad Bhagavatam 1.12.17)

 

Prahlada Maharaja accepted whatever the Lord had offered him, and he prayed for the Lord to deliver his father. In response to this prayer, the Lord assured him that in the family of such a pure devotee as he, not only the devotee's father but his forefathers for twenty-one generations are liberated. The Lord also asked Prahlada to perform the ritualistic ceremonies appropriate after his father's death.

(From the Summary of Srimad Bhagavatam 7.10)

 

On the other hand, if someone becomes a pure Vaisnava, or devotee of the Lord, ten generations of his family before his birth and ten generations after will be liberated.”

(From the Krishna Book, page 64, in at least one edition)

 

It is confirmed by the Lord that not only does a Vaisnava's father, but everyone for twenty-one generations before a Vaisnava receives liberation. Thus by serving the Lord, one renders the best service to his family, because twenty-one generations are liberated if one becomes a pure Vaisnava.

(From Teachings of Queen Kunti, verse44/purport)

 

“So Lord Nrsimhadeva guaranteed, said, ‘My dear Prahlada, not only your father, but your father's father, his father, up to fourteen generations, all are liberated. Because you are born in this family.’ So anyone who has become a Vaisnava, a devotee of the Lord, he is giving the greatest service to the family. Because in relationship with him, his father, mother, anyone.”

(From a lecture on BGAII Ch.2, vs 4-5, recorded in London, August 5, 1973)

 

“So my point is: by serving the Supreme Lord, one gives the best service to the family, because if one becomes a Vaisnava, pure Vaisnava, the whole family, up to fourteen generations, they become liberated.”

(From a lecture on Srimad Bhagavatam 3.25.44 recorded in Mumbai, December 12, 1974)

 

“So Narahari, Nrsimhadeva, immediately said, ‘Why do you speak of your father? Your father's father, his father, fourteen generations—all liberated.’”

(From a Lecture on Nrsimha Caturdasi recorded in Mumbai, May 5, 1974)

 

“And Nrsimhadeva said, ‘Your father is already liberated because you are the, his son. In spite of all his offenses, he is liberated, because you are his son. Not only your father, but your father's father, his father up to seven generations, they are all liberated.’ So if Vaisnava appears in a family, he liberates not only his father, but his father, his father, his father, his father, in that way. But that is the best service to the family, to become Krsna conscious. Actually, it has happened. One of my students, Karttikeya, his mother was so much fond of society that usually when he wanted to see his mother, mother says ‘Sit down. I am going to the dancing party.’ That was the relationship. Still, because he, this boy, is Krsna conscious, he was talking of Krsna to his mother many times. So at the time of death the mother asked the son, ‘ Where is your Krsna? He is here?’ And she immediately, she died. That means at the time of death she remembered Krsna, and immediately she was delivered. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita, yam yam vapi smaran bhavam tyajaty ante kalevaram [bg. 8.6]. At the time of death if one remembers Krsna, then life is successful. So this mother, on account of the son, Krsna consciousness son, she got liberated, without actually coming to Krsna consciousness. So this is the benefit.”

(From an arrival lecture recorded in Gainesville, Florida, July 29, 1971)

 

Prabhupada: “So Nrsimhadeva replied, ‘Don't be worried about your father. Not only your father, but your father's father, his father, up to 14 generations because a devotee like you, because you are born in this family, 14 generations they are also liberated.’ Best service. If your daughter can give best service to your family by becoming a devotee. She gives service to you, to your husband, to your husband's father, your father, that is the sastric injunction.”

(Excerpt from a room conversation in Delhi November 4, 1973)

 

[AncientMariner]

I feel bad for the 15th generations and beyond... They got left out in the cold.

[Ashok009]

Sorry to ruffle some feathers but please understand that food consumption has nothing to do with achieving God or not achieving him....food is satvic and tamsic...so if one consumes tamsic food to say that he will never acheive God is untrue.....also most of the thoughts in in form of religious scriptures are symbolic innature and we try to take them literally...so when God says that I will absolve generations is a true follower is born in a family is to show that God loves and cares for the true folower to such an extent that even the followers generations are blessed by the lord....belive and love God for not what he can do or offer us in return but what u can do in your devotion for him.....devotion that will have expectations in return will not be complete and pure...this is not to say that this devotion is meanginless...all I am saying is the devotion to God without any expecations including spritual expectations are of the highest and purest forms....and remember a true follower will be born in a family that is already blessed by the lord....he knows all ...he controls al...he is it ....

[Sarva gattah]

 

Sorry to ruffle some feathers but please understand that food consumption has nothing to do with achieving God or not achieving him....food is satvic and tamsic...

 

Nonsense, by eating Krsna's Maha prasadam, one is GUARANTEED a human birth in their next life with the opportunity to meet pure devotees of Krsna.

[Bishadi]

 

Nonsense, by eating Krsna's Maha prasadam, one is GUARANTEED a human birth in their next life with the opportunity to meet pure devotees of Krsna.

 

Now that is a blatant fib!

 

you state 'Guaranteed'............. lying is for dying

[hindustani]

I pray lord Krishna to make me a good human thats all if he listens to my prayer there will be no need for me to label myself either as Vaisnava or Shivabhakta.

[Ashok009]

How small our thinking has become when we think on these lines....Krishna is an extension on the Supreme Lord...lord himself...like Mohammad, Like Christ...guess by this logic 5 billion of the non veg eating population in ths world will either be born as animals or humans unfit for human lives...it si not what u eat ...but what u r..who u r....just by going to the ganges and taking a dip will not absolve u of yur sins till u repent them and learn from them.....

[Sarva gattah]

Srila Prabhupada - "Prasadam is so spiritually potent that if a human being simply eats prasadam once, in his next life, he will take birth in a family of devotees. He then stated that if an animal eats prasadam, in its next life it will immediately take birth in the human form of life, jumping over all other species of life that a soul would normally have to pass through before obtaining a human birth". The Bhaktivedanta DVD Library Series http://www.itvproductions.org/memories_bin/siddhanta.html

 

My Spiritual Master told me this 35 years ago. Do you understand what Maha prasadam actually is? Go to the nearest Radha Krsna Temple and HONOR same and at least you will get a human form in your next birth.

[Ashok009]

First if you are a true follower of your spritual master then you would have listened to him on humility...what makes u think that I dont know what Mahaprasad is...and what makes u think that by just eating mahaprasad and not following what God really wants u to that u will get human form...

[Sarva gattah]

Prasadam is that inconceivable merciful feature of the Lord that transforms us, helps us to become detached simply by the process of eating. Simply by honoring prasadam we are performing the highest kind of austerity, the highest kind of yoga.

There are different fuels for different vehicles. The fuel in a Luna is not the same as in a Mercedes Benz which is not the same as in an airplane. If you put a cheap fuel in the airplane it won't take off.

 

Similarly the human form of life is the airplane. If we want to elevate our consciousness and take-off to higher destinations, we have to give ourselves the fuel of prasadam.

 

If our goal is to advance in Krishna consciousness, prasadam is required.

 

We have to make a conscious effort for this deliberate change in diet. If we make that choice, Krishna will reciprocate by helping us advance.

The Srimad Bhagavatam says that if someone honors prasadam unknowingly, sinful reactions of seven lifetimes are counteracted.

 

If someone does that knowingly, sinful reactions of one million lifetimes are counteracted.

 

The Vishnu Purana says that simply by honoring prasadam once, one gets the credits of fasting for 6 months.

 

The Brahma Vaivarta Purana says that when a person is full with prasadam and he walks on the earth, he purifies the earth; when he goes to holy place, he purifies the holy places; when he touches someone, that person is purified. Honoring prasadam is equivalent to performing millions of horse sacrifices.

Once Ramanujacarya, while walking on the banks of the river Kaveri along with his disciples, washed his hands in the river after honoring prasadam. Two fishes after eating the remnants from his hands immediately attained four handed Vishnu forms and went back to the spiritual world.

 

Ramanujacarya then told his surprised disciples why prasadam acted so effectively on the fishes. First of all, the fishes never offended prasadam by making distinctions as to its quality. Secondly the fishes were totally dependent on the prasadam.

Srila Prabhupada gave 5 important reasons for the importance of prasadam distribution.

1) It is a fundamental aspect of preaching. No program is complete without it. Prasadam distribution replaces distribution of money (which used to be done at ceremonies) in Kaliyuga.

2) It is our secret weapon. How it effects cannot be figured out. It's like a combination of diet and medicine.

3) Prasadam distribution is giving people Krishna . It's a means by which we can help people purify their existence and gain pious credits. Gradually, they will then be able to understand Krishna .

4) It is Grihastha dharma. Srila Prabhupada tells five different ways by which a Grihastha has to spend his money - use money to worship Krishna at home, use money to receive devotees at home, give them Prasad, give Prasad to other living entities and to oneself.

5) Prasadam for distribution should be nicely offered. There is a protocol that has to followed during prasadam distribution. First the Vaishnavas and Brahmanas have to be fed, then the children, followed by the old people, women and finally all others.

 

It is important to understand that first of all devotees have to be given nice prasadam. Charity begins at home. In 1977 when Prabhupada was in Vrindavan, he would take care of the prasadam of devotees even though he himself could not eat anything.

 

Also check out - http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/spiritual-discussions/447762-offering-food-krsna-3.html

[Ashok009]

I do understand the concept of Prasad. Again we should look at the essence of the whole concept. I used to eat meat. But then I have not eaten since the last 10 years. Initially I used to crave for that but now i actually dont like the thought of it. So the process has been gradual and comes from within. Many many people who are stronger in their approach on this have never touched meat in their entire life and have been very strong in their belief. At the same time those very people indulge in Kam, Krodh, etc. So what is the use of just having the food. The fuel that is indicated is to say that the food should have been prepared with purity of thought and with love. But this does not come without someone realizing what love is anyway. Love is selfless. It is the purest form of worship of God. Eating food as pescribed and following rules as laid out in other aspects of life will not achieve God. What will acheive him is our actions not only in physical form but also action in thoughts. Fodd is a very very small element of this all. For a realized soul food or its taste is irrelevant. Food for such people is just a way to keep the body going so that they can continue in their worship of the lord.

On the other hand I do understand that good tasting food with pure vibrations will result in happiness and staisfaction of a certain kind. At the same time people also get the same satisfaction through sex. But there is another form of Yog that teaches you to enjoy sex, not ejaculate but convert the orgasm to a higer energy form. God is nothing but happiness and love. Can be attained by many different ways. All ways are good. No one way is better than the other but for sure food or the purity of food cannot be the way.

I also do understand the impact a Prasad has by being kept in a place where there are only positive vibrations and chanting. But then that is not the catalyst in isolation in being one with God.

A muslim who follows what Mohmd. preached is as much entitiled to being one with God as a Hindu. A muslim will follow his own religion and also eat meat. He will have the same discipline the way we will have in our religion. All the ways are right as long as they are formed on the principles of love, purity and simplicity.

In the end I do understand and respect your opinion and I am sure you are a very pure soul and realized in many ways. But try to break the shackles of processes and concentrate on the essence...

[krsna]

 

[Ashok009]

Vishnu Puran talks of things more important than just the mahaprasda....how many of those do people follow....

[princegoutham]

Accept One thing LORD RAMA,KRISHNA,INDRA all the God worship Lord shiva

 

Saivism: There are no divine earthly incarnations of the Supreme Being.

 

Thats why Lord Shiva sent all these Gods to Earth to teach humans How to live

 

 

The Ancient brahims Abolished the Savism concept which was practised in India and that time India was in peak of its glory they created caste system according to their occupation and classified according to their jobs which they do in daily life created upper and lower caste and ruled them and the kings which was major draw back in Hindu society which created chance and opportunities from other cultures to easily enter India and showcase our drawback and spread new religion In India The Mother of all religions which Once taught the world the art of war,science ,medicine dance Martial arts, many More is now stands divided"Mankind ought to be taught that religions are but the varied expressions of THE RELIGION, which is Oneness, so that each may choose the path that suits him best." - Swami Vivekananda)the saivism concept

Om Nama shivya

 

 

 

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[ranjeetmore]

prince goutham...plz preach ur 'concept' to fairies in ur gaga land,becoz in reality,it dosnt hold true...

As 4 ashok,what is YOUR PROBLEM !

YOU GO TO EVERY THREAD AND YOU APPLY YOUR MAYIC INTELLIGENCE..,any chance you wil be leaving us soon ?

Sarva gattah,..excellent..just excellent post on prasadam...

There's just 1 thing..when pple who do not knw the gravity and the reality of all things related to krsna,they cme and degrade the beauty of it by applying their 3rd class inteligence...2 pple hav managed to do just that..not ur fault....

And serinusly,i loved those quotes..

Radhe radhe

[vmsunder]

some people seems to be so arrogant and it shows in their replies. They call all others views as third rated but the fact is otherwise.

 

Stories on god, avatars, puranas etc all are to pass great values, virtues and morals to ordinary people.

 

To make ordinary ppl listen to those great message filled puranas they served prasadams in temple - so when people come to temple - they first make them listen to those stories and then serve prasadas - it is in a way forcibly passing great values to them.

 

For common and ordinary people who cant perceive great gnanas, stories were cobbled and passed on - that was infact primary level, by listening to those puranas he will be somewhere influenced to emulate atleast few good qualities and reach higher levels in subsequent births so that he can seek the next level of spiritual growth - that is Dheekshas, tapas, yoga etc.

Dheekshas, Tapas, Raja, Hatha and Kriya Yogas are for people who seek it from a master by selfless service for decades.

 

It is utter foolishness to confine god to just one avatar, nobody including all these avataar deities could retain their body and live with us eternally that clearly shows that god is above them all - they just reflected few qualities of greater soul that is all. Like sunlight reflected in bubbles. Just ignore these arrogant people who refuse to come out of stories and think that god only lives in stories.

 

Doing few worldly magic, few sidhdhies wont make a person god, let him try to live eternally with us and proove - nobody has done it so far except some like Ramana Maharishi, Saint Vallalar, Bhagwan Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Swamy Sivananda, they went beyond these story mongers.

 

For a sincere seeker who all have crossed the story level sincerely practice Japa, Tapas and Yoga for a real spiritual growth.

[ranjeetmore]

vs.sunder...v are talking about prasadam to Bhagwan.,.that means this falls under bhakti section...plz do not talk bout 3rd class yoga sadhnas,tapas,meditation etc...go and glorify the charlatans whom u just mentioned to pple with low inteligence,who get atractd by bhasma yogi,fire yogi,water yogi,khopda baba who live for 300 years.DO NOT BRING UP SUCH PETTY THINGS HERE.

[ranjeetmore]

you said none of the vishnu avatars cud retain Their bodies.WHAT IGNORANCE you display.

God,His saints,His leelas are all on the plane of yogmaya.When any of these appear in frnt of us,we label it as the work of maya,simply becoz our senses are mayic...

As 4 the avatars retaining their body,all DO RETAIN THEIR BODY.they are chit svarupa..you CANNOT DESTROY BHAGWANS BODY COZ ITS NOT MAYIC.its indestructible.God is absolute.His name IS THE SAME AS GOD HIMSELF.,so when a liberatd persn chants krsna,the infinite magnitude of Krsna/ananda is realised by him...

Acording to u,Ramkrshna paramhamsa is God....let me remind u,he became OLD...what are u,5 ?

God doesnt bcme old.duh.

[vmsunder]

Hey, just look at all your story deities they all become deities by just doing some magics. Nothing they did other than magics. The great philosophies are available in abundance in Brahma Sutras, Upanishads, Aagamas, Patanjali Yoga Sutras, Thirumanthiram etc not only in Bhagavad Gita. God is beyond stories, beyond human, is god of the whole universe not only that of this earth. He cant be confined to few stories and just to one form.

 

On your avataar stories, where are they now, when they can be present while Dhryothanas and Kamsas existed why not now, the world has become so worst now than those times. On their retaining their body - u yourself agree that their forms are mayic creation - then y do u worship maya - the name Krsna means black - that is the body complextion of lord krishna - how come u say that will engulf you when u say that - again u say the form are manifestations thru maya - where are you. Now some people removed Parasurama from ther 10 avataar list and added budhdha in his place - this speaks much about how this list of avataars are created.

The Name Rama is that of Sakthi -u can see this name in Sri Lalitha Sahasranamam - this name was given to Dhasarathas son by Saint Vasishta - u please refer Ramayan - this name was not created only - was an existing one. The name of Shakthi- Rama is so powerful mantra thats y vashishta gave that name to Rama. There is a saying that even the Rishi Valmiki did not know anything and was asked to chant Rama which gave him such scholarly knowledge to write the epic. So he got the power not by worshiping story deities but by chanting a Mantra. Ramayan was written as a story so that ordinary people will chant the mantra Rama unknowingly by reading/hearing the story. Here the story is not important but the mantra Rama - chanting it is called Japa.

 

On sri Ramakrishna, Thirumoolar, Bhagwan Ramana Maharishi, Sivananda etc - I requested the sincere seekers to look into their preachings which goes much beyond these stories.

 

I dont have any problem with anybody, My message was only for some seekers who really want to grow beyond stories thats it.

I salute unto the goddess who in the form of Mother protect us all, who is in form and also form less, and who is beyond the reach of world-gunas-anything and everything:

Ekha Roopini, Bahu Roopini, Aroopa - Lokhadheetha - Gunaadheetha - Sarvaadheeta - SivaSakthiyaikya Roopini - Sri Lalitha Parameswari -as goes by Lalitha Sahasranaamam given to Agasthiya by Sri Hayagreeva.

[Amlesh]

 

Hey, just look at all your story deities they all become deities by just doing some magics. Nothing they did other than magics. The great philosophies are available in abundance in Brahma Sutras, Upanishads, Aagamas, Patanjali Yoga Sutras, Thirumanthiram etc not only in Bhagavad Gita. God is beyond stories, beyond human, is god of the whole universe not only that of this earth. He cant be confined to few stories and just to one form.

 

I dont have any problem with anybody, My message was only for some seekers who really want to grow beyond stories thats it.

 

Have you ever heard of these so-called stories???

 

Had it been so, you would have been yourself the seeker who really need to grow.

 

Bhakti of a Bhakta is above all austerities, it is the stage beyond Tapas, which is a solitary excercise, Bhakti is the stage where you start working for the Supreme, for all the Living Entities.

 

Complete your phase first.

[vmsunder]

Yes Bhathi is also called as Bhakthi Yoga - it teaches compassion. It is the easiest path when it is practiced with full of love and ahimsa. It never speaks low of the other.

[ranjeetmore]

exactly...bhakti is the Supreme most energy of God.

Gauranga mahaprabhu says,''karma and jnana always keep their faces turned towards bhakti.They await in anxiety when she wil be merciful towards them.''

And as v all knw,there are only 3 kandas.,''kanda trayatmako vedah,

Jnanach karmascya bhaktiscyah.''

There are 3 paths outlined in the vedas,jnana,karma and bhakti....

Vedavyas says,''bhakti is the mother(he uses the word 'janani' in this regard) of all paths.''

So...yog,tapas,jnana,meditation is all useless...it is useless becouse they all are personal endeavours of the jivatma...these processes CANOT transcend you beyond maya.You might be living for 1billion years(indra) or may be able to create one entire planet on ur own(vashishta),but stil you wil always b under maya,u wil hav kaam,krodh,lobh,moha,matsarya,..evry evry thing ! Wat is the use ? Even kaivalya is exclusive state of samadhi,it is temporary.It is futile as an attempt to eliminate maya.Only God controls maya.He alone can eliminate her.

[ranjeetmore]

oh i am so sory i meant vishvamitra and not VASHISHTA ! vashista is a great bhakta !

[vmsunder]

Thanks. Bhakthi is such a beautiful yogic path that makes one love all, if you and me and everything exist on the universe today it is because of LOVE. It is ultimate love that protect us all. I am staunch devotee of the ParaaSakthi - I know I am a true devotee - I know what I should do to get out of this samsara Saakar. And I worship her, as i told earlier, as who in the form of Mother protect us all, who is in form and also form less, and who is beyond the reach of world-gunas-anything and everything:

Ekha Roopini, Bahu Roopini, Aroopa - Lokhadheetha - Gunaadheetha - Sarvaadheeta - SivaSakthiyaikya Roopini - Sri Lalitha Parameswari

 

Here, there is no confinement, no form, no particular name - she is worshiped as Supreme Love

 

Yaa Dhevi Sarva Bhoodeshu Maatru Roopena Samsthitha - Namasthasyai Namasthasyai Namasthasyai - Namo Namaha

[ranjeetmore]

i just read ur tosh about lord Krsna's form being mayic...that lord Ramachandra recieved His Name frm shakti (seriously ? Grow up.)

Nw that u hav comitd the greatest transgression at the holy feet of the supreme lord,kindly do not post here or expect a reply.

U hav no idea what the supreme truth is..How He is formless yet having an ETERNAL,SPIRITUAL FORM...you dont knw all this...you are just applying your material,faulty intelligence to the matter...just like ramana maharishi did...you are applying ur incapable inteligence in the matters of Brahm...u think that yog,jnana is superior to bhakti...but thats the prblm...it wat YOU think...its not true..u think bhakti is 4 sentimentals...but its ur immaturity that makes u think like that....shankaracharya himself declared that even the mind canot be purified without Sri krsna bhakti....why am i even teling u this...just dnt expect a reply frm me.