rnramachandran Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 sasisekaranji, i have a query. you know there are different panchangams in Tamilnadu. my native is tirunelveli. but sometime when calculating the Lagna, there is a difference between the pangchagams and even with the computer generated horoscopes. in such case i checked with the astrologers in our native that we have to calculate the lagna as per the local panchangams that is Tiruneveli panchangams. only in few cases the lagna changes when compared to other panchangams and computer generated horosocpes. you know the impact of the change in ascendant in one's horosocpe. the prediction in such cases mostly in line with the local panchangams. you know Tirunelveli panchangam is the oldest one in India may be more than 2000 years old still continuing. can you advise me something on this matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasisekaran_pti Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 om gurubhyo namah namaste dear shri.ram panchangams or almanac are certainly extraordinary ones. in those days trignometrical mathematics has been understood and employed by great saints. agreed. but dont we know that all sciences have advanced with age and the intelligence of human beings have grown remarkably ? invention of one instrument has led to another and so on. poeple used to say that snake is swallowing moon on grahana days . but man has landed his foot there. instrument to detect and measure water content has recently been landed in mars , which out fore fathers could not. growth is a continous process. same way astronomical mathematics has been perfected. if calculations used in almanac is used for moon or mars landing , god alone knows where it would finally land. definetly not in moon or mars. the reason is an error of mere one second of space arc at earth would make thousands of kilometers at a distance of 'light years'. for example draw a very small circle and a very bigger circle with the centre being common. now divide both the circle into four equal parts with two common diameters. measure the circumference of one quarter of both the circle. find out the difference in length of both quarters. now an error of one degree in arc of the smaller circle will be very negligible but very large in that of the greater circle. i do not know if i have conveyed the point what i wanted to through this writing. you can consult any one who knows good mathematics. so, almanacs are wonders. but the current day astronomical calculations are far superior than that of almanacs. that is the reason , people who have very good educational background especially in mathematics laugh at kundalis drawn with panchanga. the jhora program and others too are using what is called as swiss ephemeris for calculations of astro bodies. the core of the calculation is supplied by none other than NASA - the space kings from USA. hence i totally consider computer generated programs but not all unless i know what back engine they are using for calculations. may mother bless all regards sasisekaran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnramachandran Posted July 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Thanks for reply. one of my firend horoscope which was wirtten as per panchgams are different with the computer generated one as well as a thirukanitha panchagam method. all three are different. i know the family well but none of them represented properly in the horoscopes as per the above mentioned panchangams and computer generated. he is an ME. but according to the panchangams studies are not blessed for him. he went to nadi jothisdam, where they put down a different lagna its makra to kumbah. it perfectly represent him accoriding to himself and his family and his borther. the above is for your thoughts and advise if any. i am convinced that horoscope wirtten in the Nadi is perfect, but the differnce is just LAGANA. RAM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasisekaran_pti Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 om gurubhyo namah namaste dear shri.ram can you please post his details ? may mother bless all regards sasisekaran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnramachandran Posted July 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 His details Name : Kartik date of birth 27/02/1980 birth time 5.30 birthplace Nagercoil, Tamilnadu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasisekaran_pti Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 om gurubhyo namah namaste dear shri.ram ok i just now saw the chart. can you please from your stand point of view, why makara lagna does not suit and how kumbha lagna suits him ? let us have this as an exercise if you are interested may mother bless all regards sasisekaran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnramachandran Posted July 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Simple his father is just retired from a top position from a Govt job. his mother is very good human being and from a good family. his brother is a Doctor and he is employed in one of the european govt job. this guy himself is a ME in computer. if you keep Kumbh lagna the fourth lord and nineth lord venus is exalted, it exactly fits for his parents and his studies. if you keep makara lagna the fourth lord is in eigth and nineth lord is in the second with Sun and the third lord is in the eigth again bad placement. Again the fourth lord is in 8th very bad placement but this guy have completed his ME without any break. has an excellant acadamic record. he is about marry a girl in a month. everyone was saying there will be a late marraige and will face problems at the time of marraige. Again the Mars and Rahu and Jupiter in the eight if it is Makra lagna. but if you keep lagna as Kumbha you still sees probelm being Mars and Rahu in the seventh but Jupiter is well placed there inthe seventh. the girl family is god fearing family, engagement just happend in a weeks time. this is according to the Nadi jothish predicted. i above made me feel there is still a lot to be taken care as far as concerned about lagna and even preidiction of any horoscope. some horo immediatly thorwos the light as why it happend what will happend. but some horo like the one i mentioned above is need more care. Ram this is just an example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnramachandran Posted July 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Sasisekaranji would appreciate your thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasisekaran_pti Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 om gurubhyo namah namaste dear shri.ram will every one born around kumbha lagna with this planetary postions have a good mother (?) , father from a high position and a doctor brother ? your reply has not convinced me. let me put this other way.. for a person with this kumbha lagna would any one have predicted the above ? and where is his doctor brother in the chart ? and what about other co borns ? where are they ? by the way who has not got good mother ? or if the 4th lord is not exalted , will you call some one's mother as average ? please do not misunderstand because of questions ... unless we can give convincing answers to ourselves, it is too difficult to untie the knot of the lord . understanding sage parasara is not all that easy is what i understand. look at the dwadasamsa ( with the makara rasi lagna and not kumbha.) you find sun in tenth with dig bala along with tenth lord moon. this certainly shows govt service since sun represents govt, admin etc while moon shows public or masses. look at siddamasa, second lord jupiter has connection with fourth and tenth lord. fourth rules school education, sixth from it shows degree (that is tenth ) and sixth from tenth shows master degree.. ( that is second). after getting family back ground details from a person, chart prediction can be 'tailored' to 'suit'. may mother bless all regards sasisekaran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnramachandran Posted July 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 om gurubhyo namah namaste dear shri.ram will every one born around kumbha lagna with this planetary postions have a good mother (?) , father from a high position and a doctor brother ? (I am not saying that absoultly it may different, but what i have got in front of me a horosocpe from a nadi jyothish) your reply has not convinced me. let me put this other way.. for a person with this kumbha lagna would any one have predicted the above ? and where is his doctor brother in the chart ? and what about other co borns ? where are they ? by the way who has not got good mother ? this is not the question of good mother or bad mother but there are instances where a mother wants to provide her children with all the comforts, but she may not be able to due to various constraints, in such cases we cant say that she is a bad mother, but it is a situation where she wont be able to. i know people from their horoscope they are deprived of love of mother and father, but due to various other reasons, but it is not a fault of neither the mother or father or the person himself, but it is a fate. what i meant was his parents were in a good position to provide the comfort. or if the 4th lord is not exalted , will you call some one's mother as average ? i am not saying that but if the 4th lord exalted what it would be? please do not misunderstand because of questions ... unless we can give convincing answers to ourselves, it is too difficult to untie the knot of the lord . understanding sage parasara is not all that easy is what i understand. i totally agree with you that understanding Sage Parasara is not all that easy. i too read his books. look at the dwadasamsa ( with the makara rasi lagna and not kumbha.) you find sun in tenth with dig bala along with tenth lord moon. this certainly shows govt service since sun represents govt, admin etc while moon shows public or masses. look at siddamasa, second lord jupiter has connection with fourth and tenth lord. fourth rules school education, sixth from it shows degree (that is tenth ) and sixth from tenth shows master degree.. ( that is second). i did not consdierd the above, nice to learn the above, i will definitily learn and consider the above in my cacluations. after getting family back ground details from a person, chart prediction can be 'tailored' to 'suit'. No. it is not suited or tailored to that horosocpe, but i said it was only a doubt since he got a different lagna in the nadi jytohidam, he asked me what would be the true lagna than i tried to find out that is it. may mother bless all regards sasisekaran Please do not take it personally, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasisekaran_pti Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 om gurubhyo namah namaste dear shri.ram NO PROBLEMS we are in the process of learning. no one hurts the other may mother bless all regards sasisekaran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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