Pankaja_Dasa Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 When I stopped.. and could'nt start. Think I realize I felt weak because I did'nt chant.. I think if happens to somebody best thing to do is change where you are for while or stay temple for few days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted August 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 What discouraged me was people (devotees) did'nt understand. Which made me realize 'I'm just a normal Hindu'! Just chant prabhu! is general replies. THAT did'nt help. Now I know it was FEAR. Just like 18.66 Gita Krishna says Do not Fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted August 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 All it was, was Fear. I'm sure devotees will provide thier share of click/paste. Anyway only good comments appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted August 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 I still think change is good, like when Krishna moves the chariot in the middle in Gita. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Happel Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 What are you afraid of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted August 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Comments like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted August 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Comments like that. Funny yeah. But funny how? Its not funny. Okay, poeple that chant usually make those comments. (maybe u do who knows). The comment is total maya in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramshraddha Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Sometimes changing where you are is a good idea. Still, the grass isn't always greener. The mind will follow us wherever we go. If you can get to a Temple, that would be ideal. Even the Christians have their outdoor "Revivals" now and then. Still, it may not be possible to make any changes in location. However, we can make changes in our daily routine, even subtle changes. For instance, we know that there are 9 processes of devotional service. Chanting, or kirtanam, is but one of those 9. I've found that sometimes I feel rejuvenated after reading from scripture, even if it's just for 10 or 15 minutes. Or singing the holy name out loud (instead of japa.) Or reciting a prayer from Srila Bhaktivinode Thakur. Or chanting Lord Nityananda Prabhu's name for a few minutes. I think there might be something to the mantrarajas, as Lord Nityananda and Lord Gauranga never consider our offenses. So, maybe try sravanama and vandanam to help get you jump started back into japa. I know the feeling, Pankaja, sometimes when I stop chanting it's hard to start back up, even when others tell me to "just do it." Sometimes we have to break our previous routine and try something different. Take baby steps. Even if we can't chant the full 16 rounds at first, try chanting 4 per day for a couple of weeks and then work your way back up to your prescribed number at your own pace. Better to chant just a little than none at all. Hope this helps. Nice discussion! I'm sure that it applies to many of us here at one time or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Happel Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Dear Pankaja_Dasa, Actually I think 'fear' is maya. Hence, my question: What are you afraid of? When you see your 'fear', you may be able to solve the problem yourself, confronting it. Ultimately, even fear of death is not necessary. Spirit will live forever. Kind regards, Bart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted August 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 okay i am chanting, no.2 the mind will follow us wherever we go is totally false. If it did why did i chant again? Problem comes when you back to original place. Thats when mind follows you. Just do it means .. Just Let Go, forget it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted August 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Dear Bart right fear is maya. Hence i said it was. Confronting is easy as in need to go somewhere else. Some reason it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted August 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 When Krishna says Do Not Fear (Bg 18.66), Arjuna fights the War for Krishna. So Fear means not being able to do what Krishna & Guru says.!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramshraddha Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Hmm.. a bit testy today are we? Anyway, I'll take your reply as a thankyou? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted August 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 thankyou for what?! making a post that took 20 secs. rofl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Happel Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Are you afraid of Krishna or your guru? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted August 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Mmm interesting question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Happel Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 What's your interest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted August 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 what do u mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted August 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Right now Gauranga.. when yr on a coach and some nobodies say Gauranga spontan.. 3 times. Then you start to think whats going on. Was like Vishnu Himself speaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted August 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 sometimes God knowing my ignorance decides to help me by speaking thru somebody else. The person speaking doesnt have a clue what they did. Makes me like Krishna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantrabliss Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Bg-6.44 "O my Lord! Persons who chant the holy names of Your Lordship are far, far advanced in spiritual life, even if born in families of dog-eaters. Such chanters have undoubtedly performed all kinds of austerities and sacrifices, bathed in all sacred places, and finished all scriptural studies." The famous example of this was presented by Lord Caitanya, who accepted Thakura Haridasa as one of His most important disciples. Although Thakura Haridasa happened to take his birth in a Muslim family, he was elevated to the post of namacarya by Lord Caitanya due to his rigidly attended principle of chanting three hundred thousand holy names of the Lord daily: Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. And because he chanted the holy name of the Lord constantly, it is understood that in his previous life he must have passed through all the ritualistic methods of the Vedas, known as sabda-brahma. Unless, therefore, one is purified, one cannot take to the principle of Krsna consciousness or become engaged in chanting the holy name of the Lord, Hare Krsna. Since you have chanted in the past, that means you were purified to some degree to be able to chant, somehow you have stopped chanting this does not mean you can't start again. Now you must purify again. We were not purified when chanting in the beginning and it was hard at first but after a while the chanting cleanses everything. This will happen again. Just don't stop. Hare Krishna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted August 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Bg 3.13 PRASADAM. Has lot significance to realease you from sins, so can chant again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadhaMukunda Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 You have to learn to breath properly through the diaghram, so you can chant more easily. vaktuM samartho.api na vakti kashcidahoo janAnAM vyasanAbhimukhyam . jihve pibasvAmR^itametadeva govinda daamodara maadhaveti </pre> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indulekhadasi Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Chant and that will be your perfect shield against Maya. If you want to get rid of the fear/maya then do this. CHANT AND BE HAPPY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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