HH Jayapataka Swami is in critical condition from a stroke, please everyone pray

[viji_r_krishnan]

My prayers for the master

[suchandra]

 

Jayapataka Swami - "The king was so upset."

 

Big thanks for Sarva gattah for keeping the devotees informed!

[Sarva gattah]

"Let us keep begging for Lord Krsna's mercy upon our Gurudeva to recover" - Ratnavali dd.

 

It is all in the hands of the Doctors, the prayers of the devotees and the will and ultimatly the inconceivable plan and mercy of Krsna.

Saturday, November 01, 10.00 pm:

 

Dr P.P Ashok had visited the hospital around 9pm and was calling Guru

Maharaja for which Guru Maharaja just opened his eyes for few seconds and just moved his head few times.

 

Doctor will wait and see for tommorrow. Right now the BP is stable.

 

Let us keep begging for Lord Krsna's mercy upon our Gurudeva to recover. I found some nice quote from Srimad Bhagavatam, regarding taking shelter of the lotus feet of the Lord by chanting His holy names and praying to Lord Narasimhadeva for protection.

 

Although it is a long quote it is appropriate and encourages us to chant the holy names for our Guru Maharaja.

 

"In the Skanda Purana, as well as in other Puranas, there is the following statement: maha-bhagavata nityam kalau kurvanti kirtanam. "During Kali-yuga the great devotees of the Lord always engage in kirtana, chanting the Lord's holy names." It is the nature of the Supreme Personality of Godhead to be merciful, and He is especially merciful to those who, in a helpless condition, take complete shelter of His lotus feet.

 

One can immediately take shelter of the lotus feet of the Lord by chanting His holy names. According to Sridhara Svami, even in previous ages such as Satya-yuga it was not possible for the living entities to achieve the perfection that is available in Kali-yuga.

 

Srila Jiva Gosvami has explained this as follows.

 

In former ages such as Satya-yuga human beings were perfectly qualified and easily performed even the most difficult spiritual processes, meditating for many thousands of years practically without eating or sleeping.

 

Thus, although in any age one who completely takes shelter of the Lord's holy name gets all perfection, the highly qualified inhabitants of Satya-yuga do not consider that merely moving the tongue and lips, chanting the Lord's holy name, is a complete process and that the Lord's holy name is the only shelter within the universe.

 

They are more attracted to the difficult and elaborate yoga system of meditation, complete with sophisticated sitting postures, painstaking control of the breath and deep, extended meditations in trance on the Personality of Godhead within the heart.

 

In Satya-yuga sinful life is practically unheard of, and therefore people are not afflicted with the terrible reactions seen in Kali-yuga, such as world war, famine, plague, drought, insanity, etc.

 

Although in Satya-yuga people always worship the Personality of Godhead as the ultimate goal of life and meticulously follow His laws, called dharma, they do not feel themselves to be in a helpless condition, and thus they do not always experience intense love for the Lord.

 

However, in Kali-yuga living conditions are so unbearable, modern governments are so obnoxious, our bodies are so ridden by physical and mental disease, and even self-preservation is so troublesome, that the conditioned souls intensely cry out the holy name of Krsna, begging for relief from the onslaught of this age.

 

The members of the Krsna consciousness movement ISKCON have vivid and unforgettable experiences of the terrible contradictions inherent in human society in this age, and thus they are firmly convinced that there is nothing to be achieved except the mercy of the Supreme Lord.

 

In ISKCON centers throughout the world we observe wonderfully ecstatic kirtana performances in which men, women and children from all walks of life chant with startling enthusiasm the holy names of Krsna and dance in ecstasy, becoming completely indifferent to so-called public opinion.

 

In America a prominent professor from Oberlin College visited a Hare Krsna center in California and was astonished by the enthusiasm with which the devotees chant the holy name of Krsna in their congregational performances.

 

Thus, due to their helpless and pathetic condition, the living entities in

Kali-yuga have great impetus to surrender fully to the holy name of Krsna, putting all of their hope and faith in the Lord's holy name.

 

Kali-yuga is therefore the best age because in this age, more than in Satya-yuga or other ages, the conditioned souls become disgusted with the kingdom of illusion and surrender fully to the Lord's holy name. This status of full surrender is called paramam santim, or supreme peace.

 

Srila Madhvacarya has quoted a passage from the book called Svabhavya to the effect that a bona fide spiritual master in disciplic succession is able to understand the mentality and capability of his disciples and engage them in worshiping the particular form of the Lord suitable for them.

 

In this way the spiritual master destroys all obstacles in the path of his disciples. The general rule is that one must worship the particular form of the Lord that appears in the current yuga.

 

One may also offer his love and worship to other forms of the Lord that appear in other ages, and specifically one is recommended to chant the holy names of Lord Nrsimhadeva to get all protection. Practically all of these injunctions are being carried out within the ISKCON movement. Within the Krsna consciousness society, men, women and children are all being engaged in worshiping the Lord according to their particular natures.

 

In addition, according to Caitanya Mahaprabhu's order, we are worshiping Balarama and Krsna, who appeared in Dvapara-yuga, because They are the original Supreme Personality of Godhead.

 

Similarly, by chanting the Dasavatara-stotra, jaya jagad-isa hare, and by reading Srimad-Bhagavatam, the members of ISKCON worship all of the plenary expansions of the Personality of Godhead.

 

And after every arati performance devotional prayers are duly chanted to Lord Nrsimhadeva for protection of this movement, which is so essential to human society.

 

SB 11.5.38, SB 11.5.39, SB 11.5.40, SB 11.5.38-40

Your humble servant, Ratnavali dd

[Sarva gattah]

 

 

Maharaja is not responding to verbal commands Doctors say Maharaj is very critical. The Hinduja doctors are giving the best treatment possible. We now have to only wait and see. Everyone please keep praying to Lord Caitanya and Srila Prabhupada

 

 

Message from Dr Madhavananda prabhu

 

Dr Madhavananda prabhu from the Bhaktivedanta hospital although in Vrindavan Yatra is always in touch with the Hindhuja doctors and the doctors from America.

 

They constantly discuss regarding Guru Maharaja's situation and the treatment to Guru Maharaja is given accordingly. Dr Madhavananda prabhu is requesting us not to panic and just keep praying to Krishna positively.

Guru Maharaja is not an ordinary person.

 

He is under the divine protection of Sri Gauranga Mahaprabhu. He is very dear to Srila Prabhupada and all the devotees. Let us all pray intensely for Guru Maharaja's recovery. If Krishna wants anything is possible. It is upon

 

His sweet will.

Your humble servant,

Ratnavali dd

 

Sunday, November 02, 1.30 pm:

Dr. B S Singhal was brought to the hospital this afternoon by Braja Hari

prabhu, the Temple President of ISKCON Mumbai and also a senior disciple of Jayapataka Swami Guru Maharaja.

 

Dr. B S Singhal is the Hon Chairperson of MSSI-Mumbai. He is a renowned Neurologist at Bombay Hospital. He examined the reports and as well as Guru Maharaja's present condition.

 

Since Guru Maharaja is not responding to verbal commands he says it is very critical. He said that the Hinduja doctors are giving the best treatment possible. We now have to only wait and see.

 

Your humble servant,

Ratnavali dd

[Sarva gattah]

Maharaj has again showed slight signs of improvement however; the therapeutic process will take weeks if not months. That is as long as there is no more medical set backs and the damage already caused is able to heal. Frankly, it does not look good materially but Spiritually, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.

 

Last update:

(03-Nov-08, 07.30 a.m. report)

Ratnavali dd:

 

Yesterday around 12am (midnight) by the mercy of Sri Sri Radha Rasabihariji, Jayapataka Maharaja opened his eyes.

 

The nurse went and informed the servant of Maharaja who is usually in the waiting room. No attendant is allowed to be inside after 11pm in the night. During the day only one attendant is allowed to be besides Maharaja

 

The attendant is generally reading Caitanya Caritamrta to Maharaja (even if conscious or not conscious) or he is chanting his japa along with Srila Prabhupada’s japa which is constantly being played.

 

So the servant rushed inside and opened the Caitanya Caritamrta and showed Srila Prabhupada’s picture in the book to him. Maharaja looked at the picture for a while and he wanted to say something but he was unable.

 

The nurse wanted to test the level of consciousness of Maharaja.

 

She asked him to raise the left hand and Maharaja slowly lifted his left hand. When he was asked to lift the right hand because of the swelling he wasn’t able to. Then she asked to lift the right and left legs

 

Maharaja was trying but he was unable to. Since for the three days he hasn’t been conscious and there were no movements so he his weak right now.

 

He is only 5% conscious right now.

 

As long as Maharaja is with life support and in ICU it is very critical. The conscious level keeps fluctuating therefore we should keep praying and chanting for Jayapataka Maharaja intensely until he comes out of the ICU.

 

Your humble servant,

Ratnavali dd

[Sarva gattah]

 

 

"Dr Madhavananda prabhu is requesting us not to panic and just keep praying to Krishna positively.

:pray: :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray:

 

 

Srila Jayapataka Maharaja is not an ordinary person. He is under the divine protection of Sri Gauranga Mahaprabhu.

 

He is very dear to Srila Prabhupada and all the devotees. Let us all pray intensely for Guru Maharaja's recovery. If Krishna wants anything is possible. It is upon His sweet will".

 

Your humble servant,

Ratnavali dd

[ARJ]

Mr. Jayapataka must be really an important 'Hare Krishna' ,is he considered as Krishna 2nd coming ????????

 

& moderators please consider this a honest query, thank you.

[gHari]

 

Mr. Jayapataka must be really an important 'Hare Krishna' ,is he considered as Krishna 2nd coming ????????

 

& moderators please consider this a honest query, thank you.

 

No. He is simply a very sincere servant of Krsna's servant.

[Sarva gattah]

H. H. JAYAPATAKA MAHARAJ’S STATUS REPORT IS NOW STABLE, 04-Nov-08, afternoon

 

Last update

By Dr Madhavananda das, Director of Bhaktivedanta Hospital

Maharaj’s consciousness has been stable and he responds to verbal commands by opening his eyes or by facial expression. This has been up and down and sometimes he is responsive and sometimes he is unresponsive.

 

He has been moving his left hand, the other limbs are not moving and is a matter of concern.

 

The neurologist Dr PP Ashok and the itensivist Dr Hegde are monitoring him closely. According to them things are taking their natural course and recovery is a lengthy process.

 

Even though a decline in consciousness is observed since the last 3 days and Maharaj remains critical, and he is in a state where things may go wrong, there is no reason to believe that he will not recover. The prayers must go on and that is the only factor which will change the course of events.

 

Overall it can be summarized that

 

• Maharaj’s condition is critical but stable

• There is no further deterioration

• He still responds to commands but not as much as 4 days back.

• His blood pressure and other parameters like blood sugar, potassium levels, platelets are stable.

• Tomorrow they will again try to wean him from the ventilator.

• The doctors from Bhaktivedanta Hospital are constantly in touch with the treating doctors.

• Prayers must continue.

 

(04-Nov-08, 09:00 a.m. report)

Ratnavali dd:

 

Jayapayaka Maharaja’s consciousness level is fluctuating. The whole day

 

yesterday Maharaja was only in the sleeping state, no response until 6.15pm. At 6.15pm when a devotee was reading Caitanya Caritamrta he opened his eye and upon the instruction of the nurse when the devotee asked him to lift his left hand he slowly lifted but he couldn’t move his other limbs although he was trying.

 

Soon after that Maharaja again went to the sleeping state. As per the doctor Maharaja’s general body conditions like BP, sugar level, pulse rate etc are stable except he has some chest pain.

 

At 2.30 am there was another devotee who was reciting Caitanya Caritamrta to Maharaja saw him opening his eye for 10min without any movement of eyelids and also no other bodily movements.

 

Like this there is fluctuation of consciousness level. The different doctors are going to meet today and later we will be sending it to you their report.

 

Your humble servant,

Ratnavali dd

[Sarva gattah]

 

 

More messages from devotees

 

 

 

 

Dear Prabhus and Matajis:

 

The new Total is 8,022

You are growing up your efforts

Daily Average is growing too

More an More devotees are Joing us chanting

Nrsimha Kavaca everyday

 

Many devotees are chanting on daily basis and sending dalily reports, that´s the way

 

The Love of our Guru Maharaja is all around Hare Krsna your servant

Atmananda Das Pamho.AGTSP.

 

I was amazed when I met one very nice Godbrother Nitai Daya Pr. from Bosnia who woke up yesterday 1 am to chant 108 Narayana Kavachas uninteruptedly for GM protection. Took him 9 hours.

 

When GM got ill his intense chanting inspired me to also do something beyond my normal abilities.

 

The other devotee is chanting 250 Narasimha Kavachas daily, one doing

practically all day chanting. I personally am chanting mula mantras of Sudarshana, Narasimha and Varaha for GM protection summing up 20000 to 30000 daily. Takes me few hours.

 

If anyone has free time chanting of extra gayatris, Gopal mantras, Narasimha mula mantras, etc. certainly will be very powerful.

 

Some may be feeling more confortable to chant longer mantras- etc few verses or like kavachas, some more short like worship- mula mantras, or the ALL POWERFUL HOLY NAME. No limit to what we can do for GM as seva.

 

Your servant

Damana Krishna das

[Sarva gattah]

 

 

As per the doctors the brain stem haemorrhage recovery is a slow process, please keep praying intensely to Prabhupada and Krsna

 

 

Latest update (05 Nov - report)

By gopijana on Fri, 2008-10-24 18:29.

 

 

 

 

 

Dr. Madhavananda prabhu will be giving the official report today in the afternoon at 1pm. Everyday we will get the report once from him unless if there is more than once he has to inform us. As soon as I get his report I will be forwarding it to you all.

 

As per the doctors the brain stem haemorrhage recovery is a slow process.

 

Health Update for HH Jayapataka Swami

By HH BPSwami on Wed, 2008-11-05 12:00.

 

 

 

 

 

Maharaja's rate of improvement is very slow. His blood pressure, blood sugar, platelets, etc. are stable.

 

We have consulted other neurologists and surgeons in India, from Delhi, Bhubanesvara, Tirupati, Mumbai, Bangalore, etc. Everyone is of the same opinion: the situation is very critical

[suchandra]

 

 

As per the doctors the brain stem haemorrhage recovery is a slow process, please keep praying intensely to Prabhupada and Krsna

 

 

 

First you reported that JPS was asking to have the tubes removed, then you said he was unable to speak at all. What should people believe?

[gHari]

 

Who's that bloody rat who deleted my post ? I think its gettin personale here

Once was enough. There is a time and place. This is neither.

[Sarva gattah]

[Sarva gattah]

 

 

The wonderful Biography of Jayapataka Swami Maharaja

 

 

 

"I went to your country with a mission & you all good souls were sent by Krishna to me." Srila Prabhupada

 

One of the good souls sent by Krishna to Srila Prabhupada is His Holiness Tridandi Biksu Jayapataka Swami Maharaja who has been serving Srila Prabhupada as a "selfless worker" over the last 33 years.

 

Birth, Childhood and Education

Jayapataka Swami was born John Gordan Erdman on April 9, 1949 (the ekadasi after ramanavami) in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA to John Hubert and Lorraine Erdman. He was born into opulent surroundings, his father's father being the founder of a large paint factory, which was a multi-million dollar concern at the time of his birth. Later HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja was glad to see that his name - Gordan John (Gour Dhan Jan) - already suggested what Srila Prabhuapda confirmed, that he and two other devotees were formerly associates of Lord Caitanya and that they had taken their birth in the west to facilitate spreading Krishna consciousness around the world.

 

When Jayapataka Maharaja was eleven years old, at the suggestion of his grandfather he cured himself of a skin disease by calling on the name of God. At 14, he graduated almost effortlessly in the very top of his class from St.John's academy, a college preparatory school. He was offered full scholarships including tuition, books, fooding, lodging plus incidental expenses by several major universities around America. He accepted admission into Brown University. There, as a fresh enrollee, he was so much moved by a guest lecture on the life of Buddha that he lost all interest in his studies and began searching for a spiritual teacher. After some time of searching and austerity he concluded he would have to got o India to find his teacher.

 

As he was preparing to leave for India, he met the devotees of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada, founder acarya of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness, doing kirtan and distributing BTGs at the park. When one devotee approached him to take a copy of the BTG, he was stunned to see the tilak on his face and experiencing some strange feelings he began to run. After running a few minutes, he stopped to contemplate on what he had seen and how he had been so much affected. It was the experience of seeing something after a long time, a re-awakening of something that had been dormant and hidden from his memory. He walked back to the park but by then the devotees were gone!

 

There began his search for the Hare Krishna devotees. Since ISKCON was not very well known, he could not find them for a long time. It was finally during the Ratha-yatra preparations in San Francisco that he found the location of the ISKCON center. He came to the temple where HG Jayananda prabhu was making the ratha cart for Jagannatha. HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja was drawn into service of the Ratha by Jayananda prabhu. Later he met Srila Prabhupada who encouraged him by inviting him to take prasadam with him and making sure he got more than just generous servings.

 

In just two months after visiting ISKCON, HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja decided to commit himself to the principles of ISKCON. Jayananda prabhu shaved his head and everyone was surprised to see that within two months of coming in contact with ISKCON, he had shaved up and joined in. In 1968, Gordan John took first initiation in Montreal, Canada and was given the name Jayapataka dasa brahmachari and he was very soon awarded 2nd initiation in New York.

 

Several years later, while discussing a difficult situation in Mayapur, Srila Prabhupada remarked upon the name 'Jayapataka' as follows:

 

Jayapataka Maharaja: You gave me the name Jayapataka. I hope that name comes true, that there will be victory.

Prabhupada: It has already become so.

 

Jayaptaka Maharaja, (then Jayapataka dasa) began to render a number of services for ISKCON and Srila Prabhupada. The first most important was the service as the president of ISKCON Montreal. Srila Prabhupada wrote him in a letter, "For the present I think you cannot leave Montreal… Your service is much too valuable there."

 

While in Montreal, His Holiness was was engaged in the service of printing books and dispatching them to other ISKCON Centres around the world. In a letter dated 6th October 1968, Srila Prabhupada wrote him, "I am interested in starting the press, so if you can manage it will be very nice." His service to the Bhaktivedanta Book Trust continued in India and continues until today as he is one of the trustees of the BBT.

 

Later, on the instruction of Srila Prabhupada, HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja went to Toronto to open a center there. When Jagadish took over the Toronto center as president he wrote to Srila Prabhupada enquiring about his service and Srila Prabhupada told him to go to India on a long visa as "we have a great deal of work to do there".

 

Jayapataka Maharaja's flight to India gives already the hint of his expertise in traveling with the most mileage and least expense possible. He flew for 48 hours in what was the "cheapest flight in history" flying Montreal - London - Brussels - Bombay - Calcutta.

 

At Calcutta, Jayapataka Maharaja began to learn Bengali by going out to buy fruits and vegetables. Along with the other devotees, he conducted house programs, organized pandal programs, and personally went out on nagar sankirtan and book distribution though there was so much violence in the city.

 

Soon the devotees found a new place in Mayapur and Srila Prabhupada arrived 29th

 

August 1970 in India. When he arrived, it was known that Srila Prabhupada had already given sannyas initiation to 9 persons in the US. Srila Prabhupada one day called Jayaparaka das and asked him if he would take sannyasa and in response he said, "Yes, Prabhupada whatever you like".

 

Thus on the day of the most auspicious Radhashtami in 1970, in Calcutta, Srila Prabhupada personally performed the fire yajna and Jayapataka dasa got his sannyas initiation. This 12th sannyasi disciple of Srila Prabhupada would be henceforth known as Tridandi Biksu Jayapataka Swami.

 

Arriving in Mayapur and eternal service to the holy Dham

When ISKCON got a land in Mayapur HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja went there on the instruction of Srila Prabhupada. When he first arrived in Mayapur, understanding that he was in the holy land, he offered his obeisances and then dipped his head into the cool Ganges mud to get the blessings, recollecting how Akrura, when he entered Vrndavana, saw the lotus footprints of Krsna in the holy mud of Vrndavana.

 

There were 5 other devotees with HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja in Mayapur. As funds were short, HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja began engaging in agriculture. He studied several books, learnt different methods and got the best crop. Local farmers were surprised and wanted to learn from him. This helped build a lasting relationship with the local people. Maharaja taught them modern techniques of agriculture and the farmers taught him Bengali. He began to give classes in Bengali where his few listeners would correct him in his language and soon he began to perfect his knowledge of the language. Jayapataka Maharaja had wanted to learn even in 1968 when he was in the West but it did not seem necessary there. His desire was fulfilled automatically when he was sent down to Bengal by Srila Prabhupada.

 

Life in Mayapur in the initial days was very austere and full of different types of dangers. Devotees would sleep on the floor of a grass hut. Since they were living on their own crop, they would have to eat the same vegetable for three months. Once when Srila Prabhupada was there a large cobra was found in his toilet. Prabhupada called out to Jayapataka Maharaj and he very quickly managed to save Prabhupada. Eventually they got a three-room warehouse built by the main gate.

 

Jayapataka Maharaja soon began to oversee construction work in Mayapur and the artistic lotus building was built. But envious circles began to give the devotees a lot of trouble. With permission from Srila Prabhupada and the police, HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja kept a gun for protecting ISKCON devotees and property. As a devotee who was with him at that time remarked, "He (Jayapataka Maharaj) was a great shooter".

 

Jayapataka Maharaja also formed different teams of devotees called "Krishna teamArjuna team" etc to keep guard at night. Jayapataka Maharaja was very meticulous with all his services at Mayapur. He was very careful that not an anna was unnecessarily spent. He worked hard day and night and would most often be at least two hours late for his prasadam. Devotees who worked for him always found that when they took some matter to him, he not only solved it but also added new dimensions of expansion to it. An early devotee who worked with him remarks, "There are very few people who care from the bottom of their heart about ISKCON Mayapur. Jayapataka Maharaja's experience, loyalty and capacity of Mayapur in-house are unparalleled."

 

Preaching in India

With the permission of Srila Prabhupada, Jayapataka maharaja applied for Indian citizenship. This meant that he could not leave the country. He utilized this time for traveling within Bengal into the villages preaching and distributing books. Srila Prabhupada told Jayapataka Maharaja to distribute 10,000 big books and 100,000 small books every month.

 

He found unique ways of distributing books such as market-place distribution, pandal programs, festival programs and nama hatta. Maharaja made it a point to preach not only in the cities but also in the interiors of India, in the villages.

 

Kingdom of God

Srila Prabhupada had the vision of a Temple of the Vedic Planetarium to be built in Mayapur. He was talking to the scientists and telling them to figure out the 5th canto and build the planetarium and he also told Jayapataka Maharaja to figure it out.

 

One time when Jayapataka Maharaja came into the room to see Srila Prabhupada, he said, "I have given you the kingdom of God. Now develop it". Jayapataka Maharaja found it as a serious and at the same time humorous statement.

 

During the period of the initial development of Sri Mayapur Candrodaya Mandir, the presiding deitis of the mandira, Sri Sri Radha Madhava, were brought to Mayapur and Jayapataka Maharaja recognised Them from a dream he once had years ago while preaching in the West.

 

In 1977 ISKCON Mayapur was attacked by the local villagers. They tried to take away everything and devotees were arrested. At that time HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja got the locals mobilized and organized a big procession from Mayapur to the Chand Kazi samadhi and then to the Jagannatha temple. About 25,000 people participated in the march, which consisted of 168 kirtan groups.

 

Namahatta

In Los Angeles in 1970 before Jayapataka Maharaja had come to India, Prabhupada had stopped in front of a church and said that in the future there'd just be a few devotees in the temples but so many would be practicing in their homes. At that time it was hard for Jayapataka Maharaja to understand this as most devotees were living in the temple and there was no congregation.

 

However, the protest march and the discovery of the 168 kirtan groups, and his services of book distribution, pandal programs, house programs and enrolling Life Members helped him understand that there were so many people who were interested in Krishna and that they needed to be given more care.

 

To engage all these devotees and give them training, first HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja considered making an ISKCON Sankirtan Organization or ISO. Srila Prabhupada not only gave his blessings for this project but also told him that the villagers could come to the temple, stay for a few days, get the idea about Krishna Consciousness, and go back to their villages and establish the same thing in their own village.

 

After Srila Prabhupada's disappearance HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja got the Gaudiya Patrika from Bhakti Caru Maharaja, which explains in detail the system of Namahatta preaching. This inspired Jayapataka Maharaja to establish, expand and develop this method of preaching.

 

In the recent times, Jayapataka Maharaja has also developed the system of Bhakti Vrksa preaching which assists namahatta preaching by enabling wider preaching and giving intensive and personal training to devotees so that everyone gets the chance to train to be a pure devotee while engaging in preaching activities.

 

Nitai . Kamala Boat

One devotee in Mayapur was touring down on the Ganga taking a boat from Padma down and this gave Jayapataka Maharaja the idea of a boat party. He got the permission of the devotees concerned and was sent enough money from New York to buy a boat. Jayapataka Maharaja personally went and bought a boat from Diamond Harbour, Habrah, to Mayapur. Here is an interesting conversation which shows Srila Prabhupada's interest in this preaching mode:

 

Jayapataka: Would you like to see the goshala or the boat today, Srila Prabhupada?

Prabhupada: Which side is boat? Straight?

Bhavananda: Boat is at Hulor Ghat.

Prabhupada: Boat is worth seeing. (laughter) [break]

Morning walk, January 17, 1976, Mayapur.

 

Srila Prabhupada named the boat "Nitai . Kamala". Soon a set of Gour Nitai deities appeared in Mayapur and Srila Prabhupada personally installed Them in the boat.

 

Food For Life

Srila Prabhupada wrote to the devotees in Mayapur, "I want that you shall distribute prasadam at least to hundreds of persons daily, and advertise very widely all over Nadia Province for people to come there and take prasadam daily without charge." BY 1973 Srila Prabhupada wrote to them that he was glad with the prasdam distribution reports. In 1974 Prabhupada wanted a prasadam distribution pavilion built in Mayapur where one thousand people could take prasadam at the same time.

 

In 1978, when floods ravaged West Bengal, Jayapataka Maharaja risked his life several times, braving flood waters in inadequate boats, to deliver emergency flood relief supplies to villagers stranded on tree-tops and roof-tops. This and countless other selfless services for the masses of India caused tens of thousands of villagers to petition the Central Government to grant Jayapataka Maharaja Indian citizenship. This was granted by the Union Government Home Ministry in 1978.

 

Jayapataka Maharaja is the world chairman for 'Food for Life' and ISKCON's Food Relief Programs. The descendant of Advaita Acharya himself, selected HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja to be in charge of the annual Santipur mass prasdam distribution program.

 

Mayapur Mandala Parikrama and Pilgrimages

Srila Prabhupada Mayapur to be a center where devotees from all over the world could conglomerate and be strengthened spiritually to continue their preaching. In March 1974, the first Gour Pournima festival was held. Four hundred devotees from America, England, Europe, South America, Australia, India, and other parts of the world joined in the festival.

 

So, for the first time in 1974, HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja led groups of devotees on parikrama (pilgrimage) to local holy places. This visit to Mayapur would constitute the first half of the devotees' Indian pilgrimage; after ten days they were scheduled to go to Vrndavana.

 

The Navadvipa Mandala Parikrama has been continuing ever since with the number of devotees participating increasing each year in the thousands. During these parikramas, HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja takes care of not only the spiritual earnestness of all the devotees but as a perfect host, he also sees to it that they are comfortably situated.

 

Jayapataka Maharaja also has recently introduced the 'Ganga Safari' to visit those holy places connected to Lord Caitanya which are approachable only along the river flow. Similarly he conducts a tour of holy places in India and neighbouring countries to give the natives a chance to see how 'foreigners' are happy by following Krsna consciousness and to give the devotes more exposure to the places of pilgrimage. All these are organized very nicely and effectively.

 

Life Chairman of Bhaktivedanta Swami Charity Trust

On November 5 1977, Jayapataka Maharaja went to Vrndavana to meet Srila Prabhupada. Prabhupada told him, "I am making Bhaktivedanta Swami Charity Trust" and added, "you are the life chairman." Jayapataka Maharaja at thist ime also got the mandate from Prabhupada to unite the Sarasvat family, preserving the holy dham of Lord Caitanya and serving the pilgrims.

 

The beginning of the endless travels and GBC Responsibilities

Nine years after coming to India, finally in 1979, Jayapataka Maharaja got his Indian citizenship. Syamananda prabhu gave His Holiness an 'around the world ticket',encouraging him to travel.

 

Then around 1980 Hridayananda Maharaja invited him to visit South America. That started his visits to South America, Chile, Peru, Bolivia. Later Ecuador came and other places in South America.

 

In 1982, on the requests of Hridayananda Maharaja, Balavanta prabhu and Rupanuga prabhu, Jayapataka Maharaja made a base in South-East USA. What just started as a visit soon led to becoming a GBC in that area. In this he got established.

 

In 1984, Hamsadutta left ISKCON and at that time there was a danger that Malaysia would be taken out of ISKCON. Then Jayapataka Maharaja was sent to Malaysia to save it and he spent 21 days there at one stretch, which was a record. Together with hari Sauri prabhu they were able to save the situation. Since then His Holiness has been looking after the preaching in Malaysia. Later on, Singapore was added.

 

HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja is also a GBC for Assam. The large size karatalas (whompers) that adds greatly to the ecstasy of his kirtans, are a traditional type of karatal in Assam. This was presented to His Holiness in Assam. Though it is played differently in Assam than the way Jayapataka Maharaja is used to, he developed this way of playing the karatals.

 

Jayapataka Maharaja started as GBC in East India which includes Bihar, Orissa and Bengal. From 1980 to 1999 he was the GBC for South-East USA, as well as South America. He is also the GBC for Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia and Chile. Jayapataka Maharaja serves as Co-GBC in the far east.

 

He is also the Minister of Congregational Preaching and Minister of Congregational Development, the Vice-chairman of the World Hindu Federation and Convenor of the Sarasvat Family.

 

While stationed in India, HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja traveled all along Bengal, and Bangladesh visiting villages performing sankirtana and book distribution. Later on, once he got his Indian citizenship and was invited from several eladers to visit their countries, he began what seems his endless traveling. Traveling agents are amazed at the extent of his traveling which are also done with very careful calculations and planning to get the most mileage at the least expense.

 

As much as HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja loves to undertake traveling to all parts of the world and accepts any harship for the purpose of preaching, it is a great austerity for him to have to hide the symbols of a vaisnava from his body when he is invited to preach in certain foreign countries.

 

Festivals and Celebrations

Jayapataka Maharaja personally loves attending ratha-yatras simply because he likes

Lord Jagannatha. It was during the ratha-yatra in San Francisco that he first came into ISKCON and his first service was to build Jagannatha's rath cart. Thus he believes that it is by the mercy of Lord Jagannatha that he is a devotee.

 

His Holiness visited Puri during the ratha-yatra in the first year of his visit to India and Srila Prabhupada also told him to build a temple for Jagannatha in Puri for which he is endeavouring.

 

Wherever, there is ratha-yatra devotees are eager to invite HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja to attend and inspire the devotees with his ecstatic kirtan, and tireless dancing. Jayapataka Maharaja also in turn attends as many as ratha-yatras as possible and dances and sings for Lord Jagannatha forgetting his tiredness from traveling or other services.

 

Uniting the Sarasvat Gaudiya family

Initially Jayapataka Maharaja stayed in Gaudiya Matha for a few months in Calcutta and Mayapur, and earned their lifelong respect. That short period of stay in the gaudiya Math ws perhaps Lord Krishna's arangement as it has made it easier for HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja to relate with some of the Gaudiya Maths. While Srila Prabhupada was in Mayapur, since he knew Bengali, Prabhupada would send him to deliver messages to Sridhara Maharaja, Givinda maharaja and others. Thus when Prabhupada told Jayapataka Maharaja to unite the Gaudiya Matha he made an effort to connect the spiritual family. After endeavouring for more than five years finally the Sarasvat Gaudiya Vaisnava Association was formed with the blessings of Prabhupada and blessings of all the senior Vaisnavas like Bhakti Pramode Puri Maharaja and other acaryas and His Holiness is the convenor for this association.

 

Accepting disciples

On two occasions HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja recollects Srila Prabhupada telling him, "You are authorized to take disciples but actually the etiquette is in the presence of guru you shouldn't do, otherwise you are authorized." And "you are a sannyasi so sannyasi is authorized to take disciples. That's what sannyasa means but you don't take in the presence of your guru."

 

In 1977, as Srila Prabhupada's health was getting worse, he once asked Jayapataka Maharaja "What does your astrologer say?" and Jayapataka Maharaja mentioned "that there was an astrologer in Mayapur who had read Prabhupada's horoscope to Bhavananda along with all of our Society's leaders about two weeks ago. This man said that Prabhupada was a kind of avatara especially empowered by God so that he was free to choose whether to come or go. As far as his future predictions went, he said that Prabhupada's present illness would go by November 28 when Venus entered another house, that he would take another month to recuperate, and that there would be no further illness for seven years.(from TKG's Diary)

 

Though all the devotees were hopeful that Srila Prabhupada would recover, His Divine Grace left the planet on November 14, 1977. Earlier, HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja was one among the eleven named by Srila Prabhupada to give initiation on his behalf when he was seriously ill.

 

 

Based on Srila Prabhupada's personal instructions about how sannyasis are authorized to accept disciples when their spiritual master is no more present, following in the teachings in Srila Prabhupada's books that initiation is given by one in the current link of the disciplic succession;

 

Brahma is the original spiritual master for the universe, and since he was initiated by the Lord Himself, the message of Srimad-Bhagavatam is coming down by disciplic succession, and in order to receive the real message of Srimad-Bhagavatam one should approach the current link, or spiritual master, in the chain of disciplic succession.

 

And the confirmation in his letters that:

Generally the spiritual master comes from the group of such eternal associates of the Lord; but anyone who follows the principles of such ever liberated persons is as good as one in the above mentioned group.

(Letter to Janardana New York 26 April 1968)

 

HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja began to accept disciples as a spiritual master in the Srila Prabhupada branch of the Goudiya Vaisnava sampradaya. Several devotees who were inspired by his dedication and sincerity to ISKCON and Srila Prabhupada accepted initiation from him. Many more continue to be inspired by His Holiness and aspire to take initiation from him.

 

His Holiness being a senior sannyasi disciple of Srila Prabhupada has also awarded sannyas initiation to 14 devotees so far:

 

Bhakti Vidya Purna Maharaja, Bhanu Maharaja, Prabhavisnu Maharaja, Bhakti Vikas Maharaja, Mahavisnu Maharaja, Gopal Krishna Maharaja, Mukunda Maharaja, Bhakti Vrajendranandana Maharaja, Bhakti Purusottama Maharaja, Bhakti Vaidurya Madhava Maharaja, Bhakti Raghava Maharaja.

 

 

[Sarva gattah]

 

 

Things can change so fast Maharaj is stable today. His consciousness is better. Dr PP Ashok, the neurologist was happy with Maharaj’s alertness

 

 

Last update: 05-Nov-08, afternoon,

 

HH Jayapataka Maharaj’s status report

by Dr Madhavananda das, Director of Bhaktivedanta Hospital, Mumbai

Maharaj is stable, even today.

 

His consciousness is better. Dr PP Ashok, the neurologist was happy with Maharaj’s alertness. His blood pressure, blood sugar and other parameters are stable.

 

Today onwards, they are gradually taking him off the ventilator. This process is gradual.

 

Maharaj remains stable but critical. The prayers should continue intensely. It is the most helpful thing that can be done.

 

PS: Madhavananda Prabhu mentioned that the report would be sent around 3pm everyday after the main doctors come and check Maharaja.

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[suchandra]

 

Mr. Jayapataka must be really an important 'Hare Krishna' ,is he considered as Krishna 2nd coming ????????

 

& moderators please consider this a honest query, thank you.

 

This topic should be moved to ISKCON internal, why is this at spiritual discussions?

[Sarva gattah]

 

This topic should be moved to ISKCON internal, why is this at spiritual discussions?

 

It's already in ISKCON internal.

 

So why is this in Spiritual discussions?

 

Silly question. What is more important Spiritually than the Spiritual Welfare of a Great Spiritual teacher like H.H. Jayapataka Maharaj - just look at the amount of views this thread has had! I think that speaks for itself.

 

Hare Krsna. All glorious to Jayapataka Swami Maharaj

[suchandra]

 

It's already in ISKCON internal.

 

So why is this in Spiritual discussions?

 

Silly question. What is more important Spiritually than the Spiritual Welfare of a Great Spiritual teacher like H.H. Jayapataka Maharaj - just look at the amount of views this thread has had! I think that speaks for itself.

 

Hare Krsna. All glorious to Jayapataka Swami Maharaj

 

No, Jaypataka Swami is not a spiritual teacher for all since he rejects and bans those who see Prabhupada as current spiritual master.

He is an ISKCON guru for his followers but not a guru for others.

[Sarva gattah]

 

 

If the spiritual master becomes angry with a particular disciple, that is the loving mercy of the Spiritual Master on that person and is actually a great blessing

 

 

"Srila Prabhupada," Nava-yogendra asked, "how should we feel if you are angry with one of us?"

 

Srila Prabhupada replied, "If the spiritual master is angry, you should be pleased. It means that he's paying attention to you."

 

Prabhupada went on to say that there are so many hundreds and housands of people in the streets, but no one is looking after them. But if the spiritual master becomes angry with a particular disciple, that is his loving mercy on that person - From the Prabhupada Nectar by HH Satsvarupa dasa Goswami Maharaj

[Sarva gattah]

 

 

THE PERFECT DEVOTEE

 

 

 

 

"Perfect means as you have heard from your spiritual master. We are not perfect, none of us, but if you perfectly follow the orders of the perfect, then you are perfect" - Srila Prabhupada.

 

 

 

HARIKESA ONCE SAID TO SRILA PRABHUPADA HESIDENTLY: There is a question which I've always been afraid to ask, because I don't know if it's proper, but you being the external manifestation of Supersoul, if we are having questions, doubts, when, in your absence, if we are receiving indications, is there any possible way that someone who is so conditioned can have any understanding of proper action in your absence?

HARIKESA CONTINUES: In other words, if I am in your absence and I am in great doubt, and I am praying to Supersoul to please save me somehow, if I receive some action which I must do or some course of action becomes obvious, should I trust that, considering that you're communicating with me, or...?

PRABHUPADA: That depends on purity. If one has become pure, without any material desire, then that is possible. But if there is some material desire, we cannot expect direct communication.

HARIKESA: So I have much material desire.

PRABHUPADA: I do not say you or he. This is the process. This is the process.

HARIKESA: But in the meantime...

PRABHUPADA: Huh?

HARIKESA: ...until we have reached the pure state...

PRABHUPADA: In the meantime it is not possible...

HARIKESA: Not possible.

PRABHUPADA: ...directly.

HARIKESA: So we must communicate with you verbally or through letters.

PRABHUPADA: Not with spiritual master here. You cannot concoct, "Now I am getting directly." No.

HARIKESA: So the nature of the communication with the spiritual master in our state is only through...

PRABHUPADA: Spiritual master... Krishna is also spiritual master.

HARIKESA: Oh.

PRABHUPADA: But Krishna sends spiritual master, His representative, as you can appreciate, externally, directly. Otherwise, Krishna is already spiritual master. He could give you instruction from the very beginning. But why He is sending His representative? What is the use?

HARIKESA: We're not able to...

PRABHUPADA: Ah, because unless we are completely purified, Krishna will, does not talk directly. Therefore you have to understand Krishna through the spiritual master.

HARIKESA: So when we are having doubts, the only possible way, no matter what the indications are, are simply follow your instructions in all circumstances.

PRABHUPADA: Yes.

HARIKESA: Right. [break]

PRABHUPADA: Krishna wanted instruction of guru, not directly.

HARIKESA: Krishna's...

PRABHUPADA: That, that I was explaining in the morning.

HARIKESA: Yes.

PRABHUPADA: Yes. Chaitya-guru. One has to take the order of Krishna through the media, via media of spiritual master.

HARIKESA: So all of my activities, unless they are directly following your order, are more or less a concoction of my mind.

PRABHUPADA: Yes. [break] ...office, you cannot contact the proprietor directly. There are subordinate officers. Through them you have to take the proprietor's help.

PRABHUPADA: The office master is there. You have to satisfy the office master. You cannot directly approach the proprietor. If you satisfy the office master, then your promotion and other things is all right. But if you want to... I have got practical experience.

PRABHUPADA: One of my friend, he was working in office. So the proprietor was there and many other employees were there. So that my friend, he suggested something to the proprietor, and the proprietor immediately dismissed him: "Oh, this man want to suggest me.

PRABHUPADA: Dismiss immediately. Give him his pay he will require.'' In that I have got practical experience. He later on became so sorry. Now it is the process. So this is practical.

PRABHUPADA: We should not try to approach directly Krishna. That is not the right way. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu says, gopi-bhartuh pada-kamalayor dasa-dasa-dasanudasah: [Chaitanya-charitamrita Madhya 13.80] "I am the servant of the servant of.'' So you have to serve your immediate master, dasa-dasanudasah, servant of the Supreme Lord. If you want to jump over the original master, that is not good. Then you will be dismissed like, like my friend.

HARIKESA: Associating with you is so wonderful, and yet...

PRABHUPADA: Just like here in Vrindavana, I was here, as I am sitting here. I was sitting here in this very place. That was [indistinct]. And when I was hungry I could take my food there, same place. So that is one thing. Just like there are many persons, but because my spiritual master wanted, so I, at seventy years old, when I thought, "Now I shall go," I went, to serve the order of my spiritual master. Otherwise I am sitting here in Vrindavana. I am old man, I was chanting. Therefore, because that is my first business.

HARIKESA: Were you just waiting to finish your books?

PRABHUPADA: Yes. I was just creating the situation how I shall serve my spiritual master.

HARIKESA: Oh.

PRABHUPADA: Not that I was trying to directly contact Krishna. That was not my business. This is required. If anyone wants to contact directly Krishna, that is not possible. [break]

GURU DAS: If there is a devotees who are not yet purified, if the devotee is not yet purified, why is the temple president a representative of you? If we are not at the purified stage, then why is the temple president a representative of yourself?

PRABHUPADA: To carry his order. That is purification. If you create your own atmosphere, then you become impure. If you simply carry out the order of your spiritual master, then you will be benefited. If you do your own business, that is not good.

PRABHUPADA: You can not do anything which is not ordered by your spiritual master. Of course, everyone should have sense. It is not that we are dull, stone. Unless it is moved, it cannot... You have got moving power. But the basic issue should be to carry out the orders of his spiritual master. That is your president. Otherwise you are not.

HARIKESA: Sometimes we have the experience of someone in authority who is obviously not following your instructions.

PRABHUPADA: Hm?

HARIKESA: Sometimes we have the experience, someone in authority who is obviously not following your instructions.

PRABHUPADA: That you have not to judge.

HARIKESA: Ah.

PRABHUPADA: You are not to judge. You should be, you should know that this man is appointed, and he gets here by spiritual process. I must follow. You cannot judge him.

HARIKESA: Oh.

PRABHUPADA: That is not your business, judging.

HARIKESA: Then we simply wait for further instructions from you and keep....

PRABHUPADA: No further instructions.

HARIKESA: Ah.

PRABHUPADA: So long he is president you must follow him. If he is wrong, that will be corrected by the spiritual master.

HARIKESA: Right.

PRABHUPADA: You cannot correct him. Otherwise obedience is the first discipline. If you do not obey the representative, authority, then there cannot be any discipline. Then everything will be topsy-turvy.

HARIKESA: You would rather have us follow the temple president...

PRABHUPADA: Huh? Yes.

HARIKESA: ...than to...

PRABHUPADA: If he is wrong, that cannot... He will come out.

HARIKESA: Ah.

PRABHUPADA: So the steps will be taken by the spiritual master. You cannot, do not try to rectify.

HARIKESA: Our advancement is the same?

PRABHUPADA: Huh?

HARIKESA: Our advancement...

PRABHUPADA: Yes.

HARIKESA: ...is going on.

PRABHUPADA: You follow, evam parampara-praptam [bhagavad-gita 4.2], gopi-bhartuh pada-kamalayor dasa-dasanudasah [Cc. Madhya 13.80], servant of the servants of the servant of, then this is our.

GURU DAS: That's the consideration. Advancement is [indistinct]. [break]

HARIKESA: I know I am making mistakes.

PRABHUPADA: Why do you preach?

HARIKESA: That's my question.

PRABHUPADA: Stop preaching.

HARIKESA: Ah.

PRABHUPADA: If you know your mistakes and you're preaching, why this nonsense preaching?

HARIKESA: Preaching must be perfect.

PRABHUPADA: Yes. Perfect means as you have heard from your spiritual master. [indistinct] We are not perfect, none of us, but if you perfectly follow the orders of the perfect, then you are perfect.

PRABHUPADA: You should not think that "I have become perfect." Chaitanya Mahaprabhu also said, guru more murkha dekhi [Cc. Adi 7.71]. He presented Himself as fool number one. So we should always keep ourself as fool number one, that "I am not perfect. I am fool number one." But whatever I am doing I am carrying the orders of the perfect. That is my credit. I am not perfect. Suppose I give you ... five thousand dollars. That is not my money. I am not rich man. But the money is paid by somebody else and I deliver, that's all. That is my perfection. If I don't touch it, I do not take from five hundred dollars a paise even, and I deliver it, that is my perfection. I may not be rich man, but if I deliver this amount to you, in perfect order, that is my perfection.

HARIKESA: Sometimes, due to my conditioning, I cannot exactly understand what you are saying.

PRABHUPADA: Yes. If you cannot understand what I am saying, then you should ask repeat. Try to understand [indistinct], that "I cannot understand this, and explain." Put it to the immediate president or any Godbrother. If he still, if he cannot explain, if he feels unable, he can inquire to me. In this way.

HARIKESA: What if I don't know, I haven't understood? What if I think I have understood but I have actually not?

PRABHUPADA: There are many things like that. So you should try to understand it fully. Why should you understand it haphazardly? You must try to understand fully. [break]

HARIKESA: ...position to criticize his Godbrothers, no matter what?

PRABHUPADA: You can criticize, if you are right. You cannot criticize wrongly.

conversation with Srila Prabhupada, March 16, 1974, Vrindaban, 740316RC.VRN

[Sarva gattah]

 

 

No surgery can be performed on Maharaj, and there is no medicine that can be given for this kind of brain stem hemorrhage to dissolve the blood clot still there. It can only dissolve on its own over time

 

 

Latest Nov 6th 2008

 

The brain stem hemorrhage was very serious, and if the bleeding had continued there would have been no chance of survival.

 

Fortunately Maharaja’s bleeding has stopped, which is why there is hope of recovery. But there is no treatment for it: it has to heal on its own.

 

That means it is completely in the hands of Sri Krishna. Intense prayer to

the Lord is the only hope. The doctors are simply trying to maintain

Maharaja’s health so he remains stable, so he may recover on his own.

Nothing more can be done at this point.

 

The current problem is the blood clot in the brain stem. It cannot be dissolved by medicine, nor operated upon. It has to dissolve on it’s own.

At this point we have to simply wait, depending upon the mercy of the Lord.

 

According to the doctors, even if everything goes OK it will be a long

period of healing.

 

The hospital has now allowed for a devotee to be with Maharaja always, reading Srila Prabhupada’s book and chanting.

 

According to the doctors, only when Maharaja is free from danger and the

ventilaion is removed will he be transferred to a separate room. Then more

devotees can visit.

 

After some time I will try to give some more details of how things are

to be handled here in Mumbai in regards to the health treatment of Maharaja.

 

Your servant,

Bhakti Purusottama Swami

[bhaktajan]

 

No, Jaypataka Swami is not a spiritual teacher for all since he rejects and bans those who see Prabhupada as current spiritual master.

He is an ISKCON guru for his followers but not a guru for others.

What an in-absolute statement.

 

An Imam is not a spiritual teacher?

A Rabbi is not a spiritual teacher?

Suchandra is not a spiritual teacher?

 

To each his own fruit, some with more pesticides than others.

 

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Wise men say:

 

"If you know your mistakes and you're preaching, why this nonsense preaching?

Preaching must be perfect.

 

Perfect means as you have heard from your spiritual master.

 

We are not perfect, none of us, but if you perfectly follow the orders of the perfect, then you are perfect.

You should not think that "I have become perfect."

 

Chaitanya Mahaprabhu also said, guru more murkha dekhi [Cc. Adi 7.71].

He presented Himself as fool number one.

 

So we should always keep ourself as fool number one, that "I am not perfect. I am fool number one."

 

But whatever I am doing I am carrying the orders of the perfect. That is my credit. I am not perfect.

 

Suppose I give you ... five thousand dollars. That is not my money. I am not rich man.

 

But the money is paid by somebody else and I deliver, that's all.

That is my perfection.

If I don't touch it, I do not take from five hundred dollars even a penny, and I deliver it, that is my perfection.

 

I may not be rich man, but if I deliver this amount to you, in perfect order, that is my perfection."

 

When we Vaishnavas see another Vaishnava offering their prostrations before the Lord we are filled with the greatest respect for that Vaishnava and we are thrown into ecstatic wonderment —Not you too?

[suchandra]

 

An Imam is not a spiritual teacher?

A Rabbi is not a spiritual teacher?

 

JPS is surely a spiritual teacher but since he does not recognize 10,000 world wide devotees who worship Srila Prabhupada as current spiritual master of Krsna's parampara he is not a spiritual teacher for all kind of Gaudiya-Vaishnavas.

[chandu_69]

 

JPS is surely a spiritual teacher but since he does not recognize 10,000 world wide devotees who worship Srila Prabhupada as current spiritual master of Krsna's parampara he is not a spiritual teacher for all kind of Gaudiya-Vaishnavas.

 

You dont have to accept him as ur spiritual teacher.