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<FIELDSET><LEGEND>Astrology aspects - Saturn conjunct Jupiter</LEGEND>The conjunction of Jupiter to Saturn shows that you have enormous potential for success, although it won't come without effort. In spite of overwhelming odds against success, you are eager to explore new means to make a massive assault and assert yourself in the world. You have the fortitude and staying power to mobilize all your resources for this task. Planning every step of the way is absolutely essential, aliong with knowing when to act and when not to. You have a vivid picure of your future already realized in your dreams, but you are realistic enough to accept the responsibility this entails. You know that even with a driving ambition, striving for significance is not enough unless it satisfies a clearly pictured mental vision. You have the courage to be ostentatious about your belief in yourself, while remaining cautious enough to stay within your limits. Your capacity to achieve goals is in direct proportion to your willingness to accept self-discipline and hard work. The glow of success is so sweet that you can accept these facts.

 

You are hopeful yet realistic, eager yet serious, assertive yet deliberate. Generally you don't take chances, preferring to use proven methods to get what you want. You apply your talents in the most practical way so that little effort is wasted on non-productive projects. You can find rewarding satisfaction and exploit your creative talents in law, education, medicine, accounting, or the ministry. To these fields you would bring a profound understanding of people and an ability to help solve their problems. You are patient with less gifted people and willing to be of assistance when they need you.

 

In your moments of relative leisure, you enjoy reading informative books that are useful in your professional interests. In your constant striving to raise your level of competence, you might attend evening sessions at an educational institution. Never satisfied with the extent of your knowledge, you realize that competition requires to to keep abreast of current thought and developments in your field.

 

You respect the lessons of history, which stimulate your philosophical musings on destiny and the role of each individual in the destiny of man. Your retentive memory is a great help in crises that require an immediate solution; you may even be surprised that the necessary information comes to mind so readily at the right time.

 

Overdoing is your most persistent problem, for it can cause physical exhaustion. You especially need to get away from your daily concerns and truly unwind. Frequent 'little vacations' are especially effective in restoring vitality and giving you a fresh approach to your goals.

 

</FIELDSET>Regards

 

J.s.sandhu

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Jupiter-Saturn Nexus: an Exposition

 

by Mrs Mridula Trivedi

 

The correct judgement of the horoscope needs a deep understanding of

planetary relationships. I believe that the application of the

fundamental rules of Astrology must be based on practical observation.

Whatever has been said by our sages in the classics appears to be

correct for different positions of planets for different Lagnas. Some

astrologers have said that Jupiter in the 5th gives mostly daughters

while others have said this position gives more sons and some say that

there will be no son at all. This is correct if properly applied and

tested, e.g., Jupiter in watery signs gives mostly daughters, in fiery

signs, male births and very bad results for Capricorn Ascendant.

 

The Moon and Mars are supposed to be friends but Mars is debilitated

in the Moon's sign Cancer while the Moon is debilitated in Mars' sign

Scorpio. Jupiter and Mars are very good friends but Jupiter is

debilitated in Capricorn where Mars is exalted. Mars is debilitated in

Cancer where Jupiter is exalted. Mars and Saturn are inimical but Mars

is exalted in Saturn sign Capricorn whereas Saturn gets debilitated in

Mars' sign Aries. Suppose the Moon is exalted in the 7th house, what

results should be expected? The Moon is inimical to Venus – will it

give inimical results in Taurus due to ownership of Venus or will it

give the results of exaltation as Moon is exalted there? We find that

mostly the Moon in Taurus in the 7th house, though the 9th lord

(bhagyadhipati) , gives inimical results.

 

In the 4th house the exalted Moon shows tensions with mother. Jupiter is

inimical to Venus but Venus is exalted in the sign of Jupiter, Pisces.

Such planetary relationships and behaviour are beyond my comprehension.

I can only say that both are quite different aspects and should not be

mixed up.

 

In my opinion it is always safer not to consider the exaltation or

debilitation of planets at all.

Here, we are only concerned with the relationship between Jupiter and

Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated in Saturn's sign Capricorn and does not

give auspicious results here. On the other hand Jupiter's placement in

Aquarius, the other sign of Saturn, is very baneful while it has been

described as very good in Saravali.

 

In early 1987, a person dealing drugs came to me. He was born in

Libra Ascendant (Chart 1) with Saturn in Lagna and Jupiter and Saturn in

opposition to each other. I had found that whenever Jupiter and Saturn

are opposite each other, they exchange their characteristics. On the

basis of this experience I told the native that his wife should have

very ordinary complexion and she must have some kind of pain in the

body, like rheumatic pain or arthritis. I also told the native,

Jupiter's placement had given him a handsome physique, delightful

manners, kindheartedness, sincerity, influential behaviour, generosity

etc. Thus Jupiter's influence as described for his position in Lagna

could be noticed in the native.

 

Chart 1: Born on 30-11-1952 at 5.00 hrs. at 29°N42', 71°E03'

with a balance of 1 year, 5 months and 16 days of Venus Dasa.

Rasi: Libra: Ascendant and Saturn; Scorpio: Sun and Mercury;

Sagittarius: Venus; Capricorn: Rahu and Mars; Aries: Jupiter and the

Moon; and, Cancer: Ketu.

Navamsa: Pisces: Ascendant; Aries: Mars; Cancer: Rahu; Virgo:

Jupiter; Libra Saturn; Scorpio: the Sun, Mercury, the Moon and Venus;

Aquarius: Ketu.

This incident reinforced my earlier conviction that Jupiter and

Saturn if placed opposite each other exchange their characteristics.

I have found in my experience the following about the relationship

between Jupiter and Saturn:

1. Whenever Jupiter and Saturn are placed together Saturn will

soak the results of Jupiter and Jupiter will soak the results of Saturn

i.e. Saturn will improve while Jupiter gets spoiled.

2. If Jupiter and Saturn are conjoined with regard to the 5th

house,

there will either be no male child or male children will not survive.

3. This is not a good combination for high education. One having

this combination may not study well if favourable combinations are not

also present.

4. One of the children will bring a bad name to the family. One

does not derive the desired happiness from children. Mostly they will

not be placed very high in life.

5. They do not have much wealth as the karaka of money gets

spoiled owing to conjunction with Saturn. This yoga may be said to give

a hand-to-mouth existence as far as money is concerned. The concerned

houses for wealth and their lords must also be taken into account.

6. The conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn in the 10th house makes

one a lawyer, advocate, magistrate or judge. It will be particularly so

if these planets own the 6th house.

7. Jupiter and Saturn's influence on the 5th house may give

jaundice, cirrhosis or a sluggish liver. It may also cause gall-bladder

stones. This is very strongly indicated when Mars also influences this

combination.

8. If Jupiter and Saturn are retrograde, the results will not be

adverse. It will promote Jupiter's influence.

9. If this combination takes place in any of the saturnine signs

or in the exaltation sign of Saturn, that is, Libra, evils of Saturn

will automatically be cancelled.

10. This combination will produce excellent results in the 4th

house. The opposition of Jupiter and Saturn will also be very

favourable, the native will be blessed with good children, moveable and

immoveable property, recognition, good for profession, education etc.

11. In case of opposition of Jupiter and Saturn, if either of the

planets falls in own sign, the results of the stronger planet will be

experienced and the results of the other will become feeble.

12. Jupiter and Saturn in Lagna and 7th house exchange their

qualities but if either of these planets occupy own sign, the results of

the other will be absorbed to a great extent. I have found that such

persons are very happy or successful so long as other strong indications

are not present. This is mostly applicable to Jupiter and Saturn's

opposition in respect of Lagna and the 7th house. This gives one wife

only.

 

13. Conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn in the Lagna is equally bad

for proper settlement in life. This may cause some physical disability

if other factors are also present.

14. This Yoga should be treated as a Daridra Yoga. But it will be

slightly better if the combination takes place in jupiterean or

saturnine signs.

 

15. The combination of Jupiter and Saaturn is not so bad in fiery

signs as in earthy signs.

No combination can give the same results in all possible positions or

for all the Ascendants. A combination may be auspicious for one Ascendan

while inauspicious for another. Dr B V Raman has explained in his

various articles how the result of a Yoga should be applied in a

horoscope. Such care must be taken for this Yoga as well. The

application of the finding should not be verbatim. This is very valuable

Yoga for accurate judgement of a horoscope.

One school of thought has described the combination of Jupiter and

Saturn as auspicious for Aries, Leo and Sagittarius Ascendants if these

planets join the Ascendant or the 5th house. For Taurus Ascendant, it is

not bad if it falls in the 8th that is, Sagittarius. For Virgo

Ascendant, it is good if the conjunction occurs in the 4th, 5th, 9th or

12th house. For Capricorn Ascendant, it is good in the 2nd, the 12th and

9th houses.

 

For Gemini Ascendant it is good in the 11th and the 3rd houses.

For Aquarius Ascendant, the combination is auspicious in the 2nd, 7th

and 12th houses, while bad for all other houses. For Libra Ascendant,

this combination does not give good results in any of the houses. I do

not agree with this view.

Jupiter stands for good and open actions while Saturn shows low

and hidden things. Jupiter represents prosperity, wealth and children,

whereas Saturn indicates adversities, poverty, sadness, depression etc.

Mixed results should be expected when both these planets conjoin.

In the first house Jupiter and Saturn make one cruel, indolent and

lazy. Such native does not get much happiness and comforts. Generally

this is not a good combination in Lagna for signs other that Sagittarius

and Pisces.

If these two plants conjoin in the 4th house, good results are

produced. The native will be wealthy and famous, will have good friends

and relatives. He will have lands and property. Evil results are not

produced if Jupiter and Saturn are placed together in the 4th house or

opposite each other.

The combination cannot be appreciated in the 7th house. The native

will lose money on account of women. He will be addicted to vices. He

will be avaricious for his father's wealth and will not be good-looking.

In the 10th house, the conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn is

favoured. The native will have conveyances and cattle. He achieves a

high position and the rulers favour him.

In Chapter31, slokas 79, 80, 81 and 82 of Sarvali Kalyanavarma has

described the yoga of Jupiter and Saturn for all positions of kendras.

In Chapter 25, sloka 24, the author of Hora Sara has mentioned

that the combination of Jupiter and Saturn in the 3rd, 6th, 10th and

11th houses is auspicious and in all other houses it is bad. In the 8th

chapter of Jataka Parijata there are almost similar views for this

combination. Garga Rishi has described the combination of Jupiter and

Saturn for all the 12 houses.

 

A few other works also have described the combination of Jupiter

and Saturn as bad while some others have described it as good. There is

much difference in their views. Let us see the effect of this

combination on some horoscopes.

Chart 2: Born on 19-3-1941 at 1-15 hrs. at 80°E56', 26°N51'

with a balance of 15 years, 3 months and 13 days of Mercury Dasa at

birth.

Rasi: Sagittarius: Ascendant and Mars; Aquarius: Venus and Mercury;

Pisces: Ketu and Sun; Aries: Jupiter and Saturn; Virgo: Rahu; and

Scorpio: the Moon.

Navamsa: Gemini: Ascendant and Venus; Leo: the Sun; Virgo: Saturn and

Ketu; Libra: Jupiter; Sagittarius: the Moon, Mars and Mercury; Pisces:

Rahu.

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Chart 2 is that of a lady who was a very good dancer and had

defeated Gopi Krishna in her college days. She got married to a doctor

and has two daughters.

The combination of Jupiter and Saturn may be noted in the 5th

house in Aries. Here Jupiter owns the Lagna and the 4th house and the

position of Jupiter in the 5th must be encouraged due to relationship

between angles and trines. But Saturn's conjunction with Jupier has

damaged the combination to a great extent.

 

The following are the results of the combination: There have been

only female children. The lady and her husband are both very fair and

good-looking but the case is just the reverse with her daughters. A

daughter became pregnant before marriage and this led to much

humiliation for the family.

 

Jupiter-Saturn conjunction is responsible or such children. This

is not a good combination or wealth, if it has anything to do with the

concerned houses. Here Saturn owns the 2nd and aspects the 11th house.

Her husband had very good private medical practice before marriage but

the income gradually went down afterwards. She also suffered heavy

losses. She suffered from liver troubles more than once and even now,

has a sluggish liver.

Chart 3: Born on 8-3-1960 at 0.40 hrs at 80°E50', 26°N50',

with a balance of 0 years 9 months and 10 days of Rahu Dasa.

Rasi: Capricorn: Ascendant; Sagittarius: Jupiter and Saturn;

Capricorn: Venus and Mars; Aquarius: Mercury and the Sun; Pisces: Ketu;

Gemini: the Moon, and Virgo: Rahu.

Navamsa: Sagittatius: Ascendant; Capricorn: Rahu; Pisces: the

Moon; Taurus: the Sun; Gemini: Mercury, Jupiter and Mars; Cancer: Ketu;

Leo: Venus; and Libra: Saturn.

The native is the son of a highly reputed and rich person. All the

family members are highly placed except him. Saturn's conjunction with

Jupiter in the 2nd house can be noted. Here Saturn owns the 3rd and 4th

houses while Jupiter owns the 2nd and 5th houses. The native has no

money. He has to depend on others even for a few rupees. He is just

roaming about in search of a job.

He has damaged the reputation his father to some extent. He could

not get higher education. The combination of Jupiter and Saturn should

be held responsible for it. However, the adverse results do not show up

if Saturn is in own or exaltation sign.

Chart 4: Born on 30-8-1961 at 9.45 a.m. at 80°E55', 26°N25'

with a balance of 2 years, 4 months and 21 days of Ketu Dasa at birth.

 

Rasi: Libra: Ascendant; Capricorn: Saturn ® and Jupiter ®; Aquarius:

Ketu; Aries: the Moon; Cancer: Venus; Leo: the Sun, Mercury and Rahu,

and Virgo: Mars.

Navamsa: Scorpio: Ascendant; Sagittarius: Mercury; Capricorn:

Saturn; Aquarius: Jupiter; Aries: Rahu; Taurus: Mars; Gemini: the Moon;

Cancer: the Sun; Virgo: Venus, and Libra: Ketu.

The horoscope pertains to a native who has established many

factories by his own efforts and is an `A' class businessman.

 

The combination of Jupiter and Saturn may be noted in the 4th

house. Both are retrograde in Capricorn and hence behave like exalted

planets. The native is a graduate only and possesses a new car, big

house and all other modern comforts of life. He has a daughter and owns

many factories manufacturing various articles. So here we find that the

combination of Jupiter and Saturn gave very good results in Capricorn

and in the 4th house. Jupiter and Saturn's conjunction or opposition

(4th house) will promote each other and should be regarded auspicious

for lands, houses and properties.

Chart 5: Born on 6-8-1962 at 4.00 p.m. IST at 80°E21',

26°N6' with a balance of 6 years, 0 months and 5 days of Mars Dasa at

birth.

Rasi: Scorpio: Ascendant; Sagittarius: Jupiter and Saturn;

Aquarius: Ketu; Taurus: the Moon; Gemini: Venus; Cancer: the Sun and

Mercury; Leo: Rahu; and, Virgo: Mars.

Navamsa: Gemini: Ascendant; Leo: the Moon; Libra: Mercury;

Scorpio: Ketu; Sagittarius: Venus; Capricorn: the Sun, Saturn and Mars;

Aquarius: Jupiter; and Taurus: Rahu.

The native of Chart 5 is highly educated and intelligent. The

combination of Jupiter and Saturn can be noted in the 2nd house. Jupiter

in retrogression gives the results of exaltation, the native has a good

financial position.

Chart 6: Born on 21-10-1940 at 16:46 hrs. at 85°E22', 26°N7'

with a balance of 2 years, 7 months and 4 days of Mars Dasa at birth.

Rasi: Pisces: Ascendant and Ketu; Aries: Saturn ® and Jupiter

®; Gemini: the Moon; Leo: Venus; Virgo: Rahu and Mars; and Libra: Sun

and Mercury.

Navamsa: Aquarius: Ascendant; Gemini: Rahu, Mercury and Mars;

Virgo: Saturn and Jupiter; Libra: the Moon; Scorpio: the Sun and Venus;

and Sagittarius: Ketu.

 

The native is an Executive Engineer in PWD and has two daughters

and a Son. The children are very smart, beautiful and intelligent. The

native also possesses various moveable and immoveable properties.

 

The conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn falls in the 2nd house. Both

these planets are retrograde in Aries. Retrograde planets in

debilitation act as exalted planets. So Saturn and Jupiter are quite

favourable here for wealth, profession, education and children.

Thus in the cases cited above, we have seen if Saturn and Jupiter

are retrograde and conjoin, there will not be any inauspicious result.

Jupiter and Saturn combination causes all kinds of happiness and

prosperity, if both are retrograde.

In the case of Virgo native (Chart 7), Jupiter and Saturn are

conjoined in the 4th house. The Sun and Venus occupy the 10th house. The

native is an IAS officer and is quite a happy person from all angles.

For what combinations have made him an IAS, my article "Planets and

Administrative Career" (A.M., January 1989) may be referred to.

Chart 7: Born on 6-7-1960 at 10.55 hrs. at 26°N55', 80°E59'

with a balance of 3 years, 10 months and 30 days of Saturn Dasa at

birth.

Rasi: Virgo: Ascendant; Scorpio: the Moon; Sagittarius: Jupiter

and Saturn; Aquarius: Ketu; Aries: Mars; Gemini: the Sun and Venus;

Cancer: Mercury; and Leo: Rahu.

Navamsa: Aquarius: Ascendant; Aries: the Sun; Taurus: Jupiter,

Venus and Ketu; Leo: Mercury; Libra: Saturn; and Scorpio: the Moon and

Rahu.

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Chart 8: Born on 16-9-1960 at 5.53 p.m. at Hapur with a balance of

10 years, 4 months and 29 days of Saturn Dasa at birth.

Rasi: Aquarius: Ascendnt and Ketu; Gemini: Mars; Cancer: the Moon;

Leo: Rahu; Virgo: the Sun, Mercury and Venus; and Sagittarius: Jupiter

and Saturn.

Navamsa: Gemini: Ascendant; Cancer: Venus; Virgo: the Moon and

Saturn; Libra: Rahu; Scorpio: Mars; Capricorn: the Sun; Aries: Jupiter

and Ketu; and Taurus: Mercury.

 

In Chart 8, Jupiter and Saturn are placed in the 11th house in

Sagittarius. Jupiter is occupying 11th house as 2nd lord in association

with the Lagna lord Saturn. The lord of the 10th Mars is also involved

in mutual aspect with Jupiter and Saturn; so the native must have been a

rich person as per the rules of Astrology. But in fact, he has suffered

losses in business. He is doing nothing now. The native's education has

also been indifferent and quite unhappy.

Chart 9: Born on 15-7-1960 at 9.00 hrs. at 78°E39', 27°N33'

with a balance of 8 years, 6 months and 18 days of Mercury Dasa at

birth.

Rasi: Leo: Ascendant and Rahu; Sagittarius: Jupiter and Saturn;

Aquarius: Ketu; Pisces: the Moon; Aries: Mars; Gemini: the Sun; and

Cancer: Mercury and Venus.

Navamsa: Aries: Jupiter; Taurus: Ketu; Gemini: the Sun; Cancer:

Mercury; Leo: Venus; Libra: Saturn; Scorpio: Mars and Rahu; and

Capricorn: the Moon.

This native expired on 15-101982 at 22 years due to serious liver

trouble (cirrhosis). Jupiter and Saturn's conjunction in the 5th house

in Sagittarius may be noted which is responsible for the death of the

native. The aspect of the Sun over Saturn has added fuel to fire.

Chart 10: Born on 26-9-1960 at 4.45 hrs. at 80E56, 26N51 with a

balance of 6 years, 3 months and 16 days of Saturn Dasa at birth.

 

Rasi: Leo: Ascendant and Rahu; Virgo: Mercury and the Sun; Libra:

Venus; Scorpio: the Moon; Sagittarius: Jupiter and Saturn; Aquarius:

Ketu; and Gemini: Mars.

Navamsa: Libra: Ascendant, the Moon and Rahu; Scorpio: Venus;

Sagittarius: Mars; Pisces: the Sun; Aries: Ketu and Jupiter; and Virgo:

Saturn and Mercury.

 

The combination of Jupiter and Saturn occurs in the 5th house in

Sagittarius in the same position as in Chart 9. Mars occupies the 11th

house and has an aspect over Jupiter and Saturn, which is most dangerous

for the liver. The native also suffered from jaundice, liver abscess and

other allied troubles.

 

The purpose of both of these illustrations is only to show that

the Jupiter-Saturn combination in the 5th house causes liver troubles in

the digestive system.

I shall now deal with cases where Jupiter and Saturn are in

opposite houses.

In chart 11 Mars and Jupiter occupy Gemini Lagna while Saturn

joins the 7th house in Sagittarius.

Saravali (Ch.30, sloka 50) says Jupiter in Lagna gives an

attractive appearance to the native. The naïve lives long and

possesses energy. He will act only after carefully assessing the

consequences, will be learned, courageous and great.

 

Bhrigu Sutras mention (Ch.5 sloka 1 to 6) that Jupiter in Lagna in

own sign makes one a good speaker, well versed in sastras, he will have

full knowledge of the Vedas, a number of children, will be happy,

long-lived and learned. If Jupiter in Lagna is placed in an inimical

sign or in debilitation, the native will indulge in sinful deeds, he

will have an unstable mind and medium span of life. He will be

childless, full of false vanity, will forsake near relatives and

well-wishers, likes traveling, will be inimical towards others and

miserable.

 

Phaladeepika says that Jupiter in Lagna will give a handsome

appearance. He will perform religious acts, will live long, be fearless

and will have children.

Now, let us see the results of Saturn in the 7th house. Saravali

(Ch. 30 sloka 80) says that the native will possess a weak body, lose

his wife, be bereft of wealth, will make himself ugly and do mean acts.

 

Bhrigu Sutram (Ch.7 sloka 31): The native will have a lean bodied

wife, will be afflicted in body, will indulge in prostitution. He will

also be very sorrowful.

To prove the above findings, the results as described for Saturn

in Lagna and Jupiter in the 7th house should also be understood.

 

Saturn in Ascendant makes one dirty, poor, ugly in appearance,

miserable, many diseases, sinful, etc., but in exaltation or own sign

will make the native equal to a king.

Jupiter in the 7th makes the native acquire a beautiful wife,

charming, enjoy abundant sexual pleasure and be happy. Jupiter in Cancer

may result in loss of wife.

 

Now let us see the position of Jupiter and Saturn in the above

chart. Saturn occupies the 7th and Jupiter is posited in the ascendant

with Mars. The native is a private medical practitioner. He is

short-statured, dark complexioned, of elderly appearance and other

qualities of Saturn in the Ascendant are present in him, whereas his

wife is extremely fair in complexion, very charming in appearance and

behaviour and comes from a royal family. She is a famous TV actress.

Married life is just tolerable but inclined towards unhappiness.

 

Here Saturn is giving results as if placed in Lagna whereas

Jupiter's influence is of the 7th house instead of the Ascendant. Thus

Jupiter and Saturn have exchanged their results here. Let us see another

chart for the confirmation of these findings. In Chart 1 Saturn occupies

Lagna and Jupiter is in the 7th. The results are just opposite. Jupiter

has given the results of Lagna while Saturn has bestowed the effects of

7th house. Here it again shows the exchange of properties between

Jupiter and Saturn.

 

The native of Chart 11 has a son and a daughter. The daughter is

not married and is a cause of great worry whereas the son is also very

dissatisfied with his job since many years. The native's practice is

also below par.

 

The naïve of Chart 12 is a professor in an engineering college.

He possesses a house of his own and lands along with various movable

properties. He has two beautiful sons and enjoys a very high reputation

in society and among relatives. Jupiter and Saturn's opposition can be

noted in the 10th and 4th houses. Here Jupiter and Saturn do not appear

to exchange their results as Jupiter in Pisces has made the native a

teacher. Saturn in the 4th house in Virgo has cause long trouble in his

boyhood. Saturn in Virgo with the 5th lord Venus gives an inclination

for engineering. Saturn is the lord of 8th house and its placement in

the 4th house will cause chest trouble, illness to mother, gains through

legacy and a complicated mind. Such a native hardly reveals his thoughts

to any one. The native possesses these qualities. The mother of the

native died of cancer in 1989.

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Chart 13 is of an engineer. He is good looking, possesses movable

and immovable property, has three children, 2 sons and a daughter. The

financial position is also sound. Jupiter falls in the 4th house in

Pisces and Saturn is in the 10th house in opposition to Jupiter. The

native's Jupiter is stronger, so Jupiter's results will be more

prominent. The native is a very good-natured, well-behaved, kind-hearted

and God-fearing person. Jupiter in the 4th house has bestowed on him

much landed property. Saturn in Virgo in the 10th has made the native an

engineer.

 

If we compare this and previous cases, we find that Jupiter is

there in Pisces and Saturn in Virgo in both the cases. In the previous

case Jupiter occupied the 10th house so the native is a teacher while in

the present one Saturn is in the 10th so the native is an engineer.

Jupiter is stronger as he is in own sign, therefore, Jupiter's result is

prominent in both the cases.

 

The native of Chart 14 born in Virgo with Saturn in Lagna has

Jupiter in the 7th house. The wife of the native has a sickly

constitution. She is an air hostess. She suffers from windy diseases,

pains in the body, stomach troubles. So far as the native's physique and

personality are concerned, they fit with Jupiter in the Lagna. He is

very tall, extremely handsome and smart, very generous and kind-hearted

etc. So here again we find that Jupiter aned Saturn have exchanged their

properties when placed opposite each other.

 

The native has changed many vocations including films but he is

till unsuccessful. He has a daughter.

Here, I would like to repeat again that Jupiter is in own sign

Pisces. So Jupiter's results will also be experienced for the 7th house,

so the wife is quite good-looking, noble and earning. Jupiter has

absorbed Saturn's nature also which has caused secret, chronic diseases

which are difficult to diagnose. Saturn's influence over Jupiter delayed

the marriage which took place in the 30th year.

 

Natives where Saturn and Jupiter are in opposition are not very

successful persons. They are not usually rich and are not properly

settled in profession.

 

The native of Chart 15 is an engineer in PWD and is a frustrated

man. He has faced lots of troubles in life. There has mostly been a

downward trend. He has two daughters and three sons. Even after

completing 32 and 30 years of age, the daughters could not get married.

The sons are a great cause of humiliation, disturbance and tension at

home. Financially the native's position is below par and he is dependent

on his sons. Jupiter is posited in Gemini in Lagna while Saturn is in

the 7th. The wife's nature and appearance are of Jupiter and the

native's personality is that of Saturn. Jupiter and Saturn's opposition

in respect to Lagna should not be regarded as good. I have found that

such a native is not a happy person so far as his professional

settlement is concerned. There are many downs in life and such natives

remain unsettled for a very long time. His earnings are not smooth,

children are not placed in high walks of life and they are often a cause

of worry. As far as physical characteristics are concerned, Saturn and

Jupiter exchange their properties.

 

The native of Chart 16 was born in Gemini Ascendant with Jupiter

in 11th and Saturn in 5th in his sign of exaltation. The native is a

clerk in the bank and is truth-loving. Saturn in the 5th would have made

him a liar, cunning, very clever etc., as Saturn owns 8th house but it

is just the reverse in this case. The native has daughters only. Usually

Jupiter-Saturn opposition gives daughters if the Lagna is not a watery

sign.

Chart 17 is the horoscope of an ENT surgeon, who is very handsome

and smart. He has an extremely beautiful wife and two daughters. Now

look at Saturn's position in the 2nd house in Leo. That should not have

given him such a magnetic face, magnetic speech and captivating eyes

which he has been blessed with. Jupiter's position in the 8th in

opposition to Saturn should also be judged. Jupiter in the 8th house and

Saturn in the 2nd have exchanged their results. Jupiter gives the

effects of the 2nd house in Leo. Saturn in the 2nd house has resulted in

a serious accident to his car with a truck during Saturn's sub-period in

Jupiter when Mars was transiting Leo. The accident took place on 12th

August 1989. The native was hospitalized for multiple fractures.

I have illustrated here several cases to prove the combined effect

of Jupiter-Saturn' s conjunction as well opposition. I have found that

Jupiter and Saturn exchange their properties when they are placed

opposite each other except when the 4th house or where Jupiter is

stronger. Particularly when Jupiter occupies his own sign;

Jupiter-Saturn conjoin in the 2nd house, it is auspicious for learning,

family, etc. But the conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn cannot be

regarded as very auspicious in all cases. In the Lagna, I have found

this most damaging for career. Either both are conjoined or placed

opposite each other.

 

If the Yoga falls in the Lagna it is bad for settlement and happiness of

Life. It is bad for happiness from children. If Ascendant is a watery

sign, there will be many issues. In the 2nd house the good results will

be experienced. There will be money, property, education and children.

Accumulation of wealth begins from the age of 48. Before this, savings

will be less. In the 3rd house the childhood is troublesome. Here it is

good for children and brothers for Cancer Ascendant. If this combination

falls in a fiery sign, there will be problems at child-birth. Number of

coborns is less. In the 4th house it gives very auspicious results. If

their conjunction takes place in the 4th in Aries, Leo, Sagittarius,

Virgo or Capricorn, the results will be very encouraging. The children

will prosper.

 

There will be all kinds of luxuries, wealth, prosperity and happiness.

In the 5th house, there are obstructions in completing education, they

are inclined towards law studies. They are prone to liver troubles and

diseases of the digestive system; it is not good for male children. In

the 6th house, they suffer from chronic diseases, mostly they are in

service with a hand to mouth existence. In the 7th house, it is bad for

marital happiness. There is a possibility of infidelity. In case of two

marriages, the native gets a lot of wealth. In the 8th, it is bad

combination, may cause trouble in digestive system, the native serves

others. In the 9th house this gives good results only for Aries and

Cancer Ascendants.

 

It is not good for either of the parents. In the 10th this brings one

into the profession of law or the native serves others. Usually the

native does not get success in business. In the 11th house it is bad for

business. One faces many failures and can hardly make ends meet. There

are mental setbacks. Mostly it is bad for children. The 12th house is

the place where Jupiter and Saturn show very auspicious results. One

gets lot of power and fame. There is only one wife who dominates the

native. This combination elevates the native's position. The wife of the

native may be deceitful and unfaithful and may beget an illegitimate

issue. But the 5th house and lord thereof must also be viewed carefully.

 

There is much scope for further research in this combination. The

combination of Jupiter and Saturn is a very important combination which

should never be ignored. Otherwise, it will not be possible to judge a

horoscope correctly.

 

References:

Chart 11: Born on 25-9-1930 at 0-50 hours at Etawah, with a

balance of 14 years, 0 months and 17 days of Rahu Dasa. Rasi: Gemini:

ascendant with Mars & Jupiter; Virgo: the Sun & Mercury; Libra: Ketu,

the Moon & Venus; Sagittarius: Saturn; and Aries: Rahu. Navamsa: Gemini:

Ascendant; Cancer: Saturn; Libra: Ketu; Sagittarius: the Moon;

Capricorn: Mercury; Pisces: the Sun; Aries: Rahu; and Taurus: Venus,

Mars and Jupiter.

Chart 12: Born on 6-11-1951 at 19.39 hrs. at 79°35'E,

27°23'N with a balance of 6 years, 6 months and 11 days of Mars Dasa.

Rasi: Gemini: Ascendant; Leo: Mars & Ketu; Virgo: Venus & Saturn; Libra:

the Sun; Scorpio: Mercury; Capricorn: the Moon; Aquarius: Rahu; Pisces:

Jupiter. Navamsa: Libra: Ascendant with Jupiter; Scorpio: Mars;

Capricorn: Rahu; Aquarius: Venus; Aries: the Sun; Gemini: Saturn;

Cancer: Ketu; Leo: the Moon and Mercury.

Chart 13: Born on 12-6-1951 at 22.47.36 hrs. at 78-24 E, 27-9 N.

Rasi: Ascendant 260-46; Sun 27-59; Moon 101-4; Mars 30-27; Mercury 5-52;

Jupiter 341-20; Venus 68-42; Saturn ® 152-35; Rahu 332-34; and Ketu

142-34 with a balance of 7 years 11 months and 22 days of Saturn Dasa.

Chart 14: Born on 26-8-1951 at 7.00 hrs. at 88-23 E, 22-35 N.

Rasi: Ascendant 5s-1-37; Sun 4s-8-50; Moon 1s-26-48; Mars 3s-4-42;

Mercury ® 4s-18-34; Jupiter ® 11s-20-13; Venus ® 4s-2-58; Saturn

® 5s-8-9; Rahu 10s-17-1; and Ketu 4s-17-1 with a balance of 5 years 1

months and 3 days of Mars Dasa.

Chart 15: Born on 1-12-1930 at 6-42 p.m. (IST) at 77E49, 28N30.

Rasi: Ascendant 66-17; Sun 225-44; Moon 351-51; Mars 112-9; Mercury

239-8; Jupiter ® 86-42; Venus ® 211-56; Saturn 257-22; Rahu 358-20

and Ketu 178-20 with a balance of 10 years 4 months and 24 days of

Mercury Dasa.

Chart 16: Born on 17-12-1952 at 19-15 hrs. at 80E59; 76N55. Rasi:

Ascendant 89-51; Sun 243-23; Moon 248-52; Mars 296-32; Mercury 220-57;

Jupiter 18-23; Venus 284-52; Saturn 182-3; Rahu 291-38 and Ketu 111-38

with a balance of 2 years 4 months and 4 days of Ketu Dasa.

Chart 17: Born on 23-9-1950 at 3-10 hrs. at 78E11, 29N23. Rasi:

Ascendant 103-46; Sun 146-22; Moon 156-22; Mars 208-0; Mercury ®

155-4; Jupiter ® 307-4; Venus 130-19; Saturn 149-6; Rahu 335-25 and

Ketu 155-25, with a balance of 1 year, 7 months and 17 days of Sun Dasa.

 

(Courtesy: The Astrological Magazine, January & February, 1990)

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Dear astrologers,

 

While the topic of saturn conjunct jupiter is being discussed, wondering what that conjunction in the third house means? I have jupiter in tight conjunction with retro saturn in third house. From what I read, third house is for courage and younger siblings. I do not have any younger siblings and I am scared of almost everything!! I have stage fear, afraid of takings risks and panic for small things...

 

If you can throw some light on this,I would be greatful!

Here are my birth details.

DOB: 2nd June 1981

TOB: 10:30 AM

Place: Kumta, karnataka state, India.

 

Awaiting your valuable response,

Nisha

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Sandhu Ji,

Here is a chart of a lady born on 29-06-1941/ 07-56 Am/ Kumbakonam-79:21:00 E /10:57:00 N.

She has Jupiter cojunct Saturn in 11L(taurus) & Lord of 11 in L(cancer).

Short tempered lady and always under some kind of tension that will bother others also.Will you be kind enough to read her chart and give your valued opinion?

 

Kind regards,

Anusha

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Dear,

ASpect of jupiter is mostly benific, it aspects 5th ,7th and 9th houses.while aspect of saturn is mostly malefic it aspects 3,7th and 10 th houses from its position,saturn lending an aspect to its own house ,well a lot depends on placement of saturn and some other factors pretaining to the chart of individual , you just cant make a generalised statement about it as lot of permutations and combinations are involved.

 

Regards

 

j.s.sandhu

 

 

 

 

 

Hello Sandhu Ji,

 

What is your opinion about Jupiter aspecting Saturn's house and the house is also aspected by Saturn (i.e. Saturn aspects its own house)?

 

Please clarify

 

Regards,

Ompuneet

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Hello Sandhu Ji,

 

Thanks for your reply, in my chart Saturn is placed in 6th house (house of Sun) and Sun is placed in 10th house with Venus (house of Saturn) i.e. Sun and Saturn are exchanging houses. As I understand malefic planet is good in 6th house, in my case Saturn is in 6th house retrograded, how do you think Saturn is affecting my chart?

 

29-Jan 1978, 10:55AM Delhi

 

I have also started the first phase of Sade Sati in July 2007, health is being problematic since then.

 

I appreciate your comments.

 

Regards,

Ompuneet

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Sandhu Ji,

Here is a chart of a lady born on 29-06-1941/ 07-56 Am/ Kumbakonam-79:21:00 E /10:57:00 N.

She has Jupiter cojunct Saturn in 11L(taurus) & Lord of 11 in L(cancer).

Short tempered lady and always under some kind of tension that will bother others also.Will you be kind enough to read her chart and give your valued opinion?

 

Kind regards,

Anusha

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Dear astrologers,

 

While the topic of saturn conjunct jupiter is being discussed, wondering what that conjunction in the third house means? I have jupiter in tight conjunction with retro saturn in third house. From what I read, third house is for courage and younger siblings. I do not have any younger siblings and I am scared of almost everything!! I have stage fear, afraid of takings risks and panic for small things...

 

If you can throw some light on this,I would be greatful!

Here are my birth details.

DOB: 2nd June 1981

TOB: 10:30 AM

Place: Kumta, karnataka state, India.

 

Awaiting your valuable response,

Nisha

 

Respected Sandhuji,

 

Please give you insightful comments on this.

 

Regards

Nisha

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Dear all,

 

As i work for an Insurance MNC ,giving a detailed answers is not possible ,however i will try to answer the queries one by one, From tomorrow onwards, Please bear with me.

 

Regards

 

J.s.sandhu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello Sandhuji,

 

 

I am a capricorn born ascendant, jupiter and saturn are in my 9th house.

my date of birth 24/11/1980 10:11 am, bangalore

 

I have lot of health issues.

 

Could you please throw light on this issue.

 

Thanks a lot

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Dear nisha,

 

In your case saturn is retrograde thus complicating things a bit more, here jup is owner of 6th and 9th houses and saturn 7th & 8th houses,thus matters related to the houses and of the 3rd houses will suffer, at present you may be find the marital pursuits a thing to reckon with.

 

Regards

 

J.s.sandhu

 

 

 

 

Dear astrologers,

 

While the topic of saturn conjunct jupiter is being discussed, wondering what that conjunction in the third house means? I have jupiter in tight conjunction with retro saturn in third house. From what I read, third house is for courage and younger siblings. I do not have any younger siblings and I am scared of almost everything!! I have stage fear, afraid of takings risks and panic for small things...

 

If you can throw some light on this,I would be greatful!

Here are my birth details.

DOB: 2nd June 1981

TOB: 10:30 AM

Place: Kumta, karnataka state, India.

 

Awaiting your valuable response,

Nisha

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Sandhu Ji,

Here is a chart of a lady born on 29-06-1941/ 07-56 Am/ Kumbakonam-79:21:00 E /10:57:00 N.

She has Jupiter cojunct Saturn in 11L(taurus) & Lord of 11 in L(cancer).

Short tempered lady and always under some kind of tension that will bother others also.Will you be kind enough to read her chart and give your valued opinion?

 

Kind regards,

Anusha

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Dear anusha ji,

 

The lady in question has a jupiter saturn conjuction in 11 th ,which according to some is good, but in this case the conjuction is of planets owning 6,7,8 & 9 th houses in 11th the house of gains, but what are the gains in this case jupiter has been turned insignificant in enemy house. Saturn as owner of 7 & 8th gains some power on virtue of being in friends sign. Overall the Md of jup in Ad jup started from 2006 will not turn out very well for the native.

 

Regards

 

J.s.sandhu

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Sandhuji,

 

greetings! What are your views on the guru-shani conjunction on this chart? (09 Feb 2001, 1331, delhi)

 

Here, jupiter which is inauspicious for taurus lagna occupies lagna. This can be considered lucky because jupiter in lagna is good, its in a 6-8 with the bad 8th house it lords and most importantly, its in an exchange with exalted lagna lord venus.

 

Saturn, yogkaraka for taurus lagna, is in marana karaka sthana. Traditionally considered bad for the house that saturn owns. However, its 10 aspect upon its own house of career will not mar the native's career in my opinion.

 

So, here, will jupiter fructify the yogkaraka aspect in the native's chart or will the inauspicious Jupiter get afflicted? In any case, dont you think that Jup+Sat in lagna in taurus should be good?

 

Regards

Deepa

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i have been trying to conceive for 6 yrs pls tell me when will i concieve

pls tell me the year atleast a real request

 

my dob is 2nd sep 1979 time of birth is 8 24 am born in chennai

date of marriage is july 6th 2003 Guruji pls help

 

my partners dob is 26 th april 1976 chennai

 

i have been taking medical treatement for 2 full yrs injections and tabs pls tell me if i will concieve now in approximately few months

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Dear Deepa ji,

Parnaam.

 

Whatever you have said on this chart cannot be negated , Jupiter in lagan forms a kuldeepak yoga and kesri yoga , But at the same time aspect and conjuction of malefics will give instability of mind , though education of native will be good, and the said person can succeed politicaly also , i am just talking about the Jup sat conjuction only, There may be certain amount of uncertainity for the native ,with cerain unexpected turns and twists creating semblence of disturbanceof events every now or then. As for saturn and its aspect on its own house on a retro mercury well the disturbances will be there , but with likely escape route. Retro mercury in 10th will give an inheritance to the native and once again will improve the political foray chances for the native.

 

Regards

 

J.s.sandhu

 

 

 

 

 

Sandhuji,

 

greetings! What are your views on the guru-shani conjunction on this chart? (09 Feb 2001, 1331, delhi)

 

Here, jupiter which is inauspicious for taurus lagna occupies lagna. This can be considered lucky because jupiter in lagna is good, its in a 6-8 with the bad 8th house it lords and most importantly, its in an exchange with exalted lagna lord venus.

 

Saturn, yogkaraka for taurus lagna, is in marana karaka sthana. Traditionally considered bad for the house that saturn owns. However, its 10 aspect upon its own house of career will not mar the native's career in my opinion.

 

So, here, will jupiter fructify the yogkaraka aspect in the native's chart or will the inauspicious Jupiter get afflicted? In any case, dont you think that Jup+Sat in lagna in taurus should be good?

 

Regards

Deepa

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Respected Sandhu ji,

 

Your discussions are very good and appropriate. Yes, with so many planets aspecting the most important 10th house, disturbance with transits will surely affect.

 

I only wanted to cite an example for Jup+Sat in lagna for Tauras natives - importantly so because jup is a natural benefic but a malefic in their case and similarly, saturn is a natural benefic but a yogkaraka in their case!

 

 

Co-incidentally, Barack Obama has a Jup+Sat combination in lagna. He has a makara lagna-

 

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Its amazing that he rose to such popularity with a chart where akaraka jupiter debilitates and he is running Jupiter MD.

 

But this is not what our discussion is about. I have a feeling that while Saturn is rigorously directed towards inward turmoil, jupiter gives a consitent length to the same. Jupiter+Saturn yukti is often termed as Brahma yog. It can cause the native to rigorously set after his/her ambition (as mentioned earlier above) - but that can happen only when the 3rd upachaya lord is well placed.

 

There is a whole lot to consider in order to deduce the results of this conjunction. I would like to discuss another chart from the examples you had mentioned above.

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Dear Deepa ji,

Parnaam

you are welcome to discuss any chart you want to, Though obama's chart has the conjuction of deb jup and mooltrikona sat in first house its turned out good as sat is vargottama and jup occupies its mooltrikona sign in Navamsa , its true that this combination gives a single minded ambition but with caution and meticulous approach of saturn not the quick and fiery ruthless approach as is with mars. Many thanks to you Deepa ji for actively involving me in a discussion, its the blessings and knowledge of learned people like you , which has helped me learn whatever little i know.

 

Regards

 

J.s.sandhu

 

 

 

 

Its amazing that he rose to such popularity with a chart where akaraka jupiter debilitates and he is running Jupiter MD.

 

But this is not what our discussion is about. I have a feeling that while Saturn is rigorously directed towards inward turmoil, jupiter gives a consitent length to the same. Jupiter+Saturn yukti is often termed as Brahma yog. It can cause the native to rigorously set after his/her ambition (as mentioned earlier above) - but that can happen only when the 3rd upachaya lord is well placed.

 

There is a whole lot to consider in order to deduce the results of this conjunction. I would like to discuss another chart from the examples you had mentioned above.

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