Call for Obama to open UFO files and the Krishnas

Sarva gattah · January 22, 2009

UNH professor says it's possible the B-2 stealth bomber, connected to Pease through the 509th Bomb Wing, is a beneficiary of extraterrestrial reverse engineering.

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UNH professor Ted Loder cites the B-2 stealth bomber as a possible beneficiary of extraterrestrial reverse engineering because there is evidence, he says, that the craft is “anti-gravity assisted,” using anti-gravity propulsion some believe was derived from recovered UFOs coupled with human scientific research.Courtesy photo

CAN YOU HANDLE THE TRUTH?

Last November, Paradigm Research Group of Bethesda, Md., launched "The Million Fax on Washington" campaign, urging Americans to fax, e-mail or send letters to the Washington Transition Headquarters of President-elect Barack Obama, calling on him to end the Truth Embargo regarding extraterrestrial/UFO presence and to release any information to the American people that would not jeopardize national security.

According to the research group, 126 million Americans age 18 and older believe UFOs are real and 180 million believe the government is hiding the truth.

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Dr. Ted Loder, University of New Hampshire professor emeritus, became interested in extraterrestrials in 1997 when then governor Jeanne Shaheen sent him at his own request, to a closed congressional briefing in Washington, D.C., on UFOs.

As then Gov. Shaheen's representative, Dr. Loder listened to top-secret military witnesses as they described their observations and sightings to members of Congress and the U.S. Senate.

Based on what he heard, Loder came to believe in the alleged government cover-up of extra-terrestrial technologies, technologies he feels the world desperately needs for safe, inexpensive and sustainable energy to solve global poverty.

Loder is associated with the Disclosure Project, whose goal is for "free and open" congressional hearings concerning UFOs and for the release of allegedly suppressed technology, and with The Orion Project, whose objective is to develop sustainable energy technology to serve global humanitarian purposes.

Loder cites the B-2 stealth bomber as a possible beneficiary of ET reverse engineering because there is evidence, he says, that the craft is "anti-gravity assisted," using anti-gravity propulsion some believe was derived from recovered UFOs coupled with human scientific research.

The B-2 is flown by the elite 509th Bomb Wing, several aviation generations evolved from their 1947 Roswell fame.

(The 509th Composite Group was formed in World War II to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.)

The 509th was stationed at Roswell, N.M., and their intelligence officers were first on the crash site at Corona, 75 miles from Roswell. They have been historically linked to the controversial event ever since.

Over the years cries of cover-up have failed to die out, some believing an extraterrestrial craft was downed and ETs recovered from the wreckage.

By 1965 the 509th Bomb Wing had moved to Pease AFB in Portsmouth as part of the Strategic Air Command during the Cold War, with a powerful nuclear weapon delivery capability.

On Aug. 26 of that year the 509th participated in a SAC bombing competition. Eight days later, on Sept. 3, the lights went out at Pease two hours before the "Incident at Exeter."

"The 509th BW is special," says nuclear physicist Stanley Friedman, speaking from his home in New Brunswick, Canada. "They were elite and hand-picked."

Friedman was the first civilian to investigate the Roswell site, in 1978, more than 30 years after the alleged crash. He has met with and interviewed most of the primary players of the event. As to a possible connection between the 509th, Roswell, N.M., and Exeter, N.H. Friedman says, "There are no coincidences."

"INCIDENT AT EXETER" COVER-UP?

Over the decades, Pease has denied that anything out of the ordinary occurred at the airbase on that Sept. 3. But former Hampton Police Chief Robert Mark, a sergeant with the 509th Security Police Squadron at Pease in 1965, told a different story.

As related in the New Hampshire Seacoast Sunday in 1990, "... Mark was on duty at the main gate when, at about midnight, he and other officers saw a huge, brightly lit object approaching the base at an altitude of 300 to 400 feet. As the object passed , silently, over the base, Mark recalls, lights began going out.

"Seconds later, Mark raced to the base radar tower, where he listened in as two jet fighters took off to give chase, but were quickly outdistanced by the fast-moving object."

In his book "The Day After Roswell," retired Col. Philip J. Corso claims he inherited the Roswell file at the Pentagon and farmed out ET technologies for development. But such is poppycock and folderol to retired Col. George Rubin of Stratham.

The former N.H. state representative and crusty combat-seasoned battalion commander spent time at the Pentagon. Rubin says he is sure that if there was ET activity, he would have been informed and adds that media-driven UFO stories have taken on a life of their own.

Stanton Friedman, though, purports that there was an immediate cover-up of the Roswell crash by President Truman and a select group around him known as the "Majestic 12."

TO DISCLOSE OR NOT TO DISCLOSE

Some of those involved in Ufology and the field of alien abduction are against full government disclosure of alleged UFO and ET documents.

Kathleen Marden of Stratham, co-author with Stanley Friedman of "Captured:

The Betty and Barney Hill UFO Experience," recalls being in an auditorium when all present were asked to raise their hands if they did not believe in UFO disclosure. She says her own and Stanley Friedman's hands were conspicuously held up. Marden, in her role as a social worker, is for partial disclosure. Her training leaves her concerned about "social unrest, depending on what's released."

Friedman fears that national security secrets could be compromised by those who mean to do harm in this age of terrorism.

Others, like State Rep. Susan Kepner, D-Hampton, who was a supporter of New Mexico governor Bill Richardson's presidential bid, is for disclosure only after measured review in Washington, because she feels people "can be reactionary to information and act before they think it all out. She cited as an example the alleged weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and how the allegation "got people to go charging in after them."

JIMMY CARTER-DISCLOSURE PRESIDENT-NOT

Because of Jimmy Carter's own sighting of a UFO in 1969, he told reporters during his 1976 presidential campaign, that as president he would make any and all UFO information available to the public and scientists. Despite such a forthright promise, once elected he did not follow through with his pledge, citing "defense implications."

Those demanding UFO disclosure may have finally found their man in Obama's transition chief, John Podesta. Podesta, Clinton's chief of staff from 1998 to 2001, is an advocate for government openness. At a national press club conference in 2002 he said the government should "open the books" on its UFO investigations.

"I think it's time to open the books on questions that have remained in the dark on the question of government investigations of UFOs ... It's time to find out what the truth really is that's out there ... because the American people, quite frankly, can handle the truth and we ought to do it because it's the law," Podesta said.

But in response to a question by the late Tim Russert of NBC News, Barack Obama said, he was more concerned about "improving the quality of people's lives here on earth, than space aliens." Obama's short list is already full.

In a forward to "The Roswell Dig Diaries" Gov. Richardson wrote "It would help everyone if the U.S. government disclosed everything it knows. With full disclosure and our best scientific investigation, we should be able to find out what happened on that fateful day in July of 1947. The American people can handle the truth no matter how bizarre or mundane, and contrary to what you see in the movies."

As a congressman, Richardson was denied access to the Roswell files by the Department of Defense.

Richardson called on the federal government to "come clean on Roswell."

For former Hampton police chief Robert Mark and those who sighted the UFO that warm September night in 1965 as it traveled from Portsmouth to Plaistow, the possibility of UFO disclosure under the Obama administration remains to be seen. For the time being they are left with Robert Mark's words that the military intentionally withholds information to avoid panic, "But if you see something like what I saw, you never forget it."

Should the question of disclosure come before Congress, Professor Loder reminds readers that New Hampshire's junior senator Jeanne Shaheen was fully briefed by him on ETs and UFOs on his return from Washington, D.C.

Sarva gattah · January 22, 2009

Obama predicted to open secret UFO files

Predictions are increasing that President Elect Barack Obama will release secret UFO files to the public. Nearly 40% of all UFO-related news articles archived by Paradigm Research Group over the last 13 years occurred in 2008. The astonishing news coverage and the events themselves prompted the predictions.

In January 2008, major UFO sightings in Stephenville, TX drew global attention. The flip-flopping attempts by confused Air Force personnel to discredit the witnesses failed in light of FAA radar reports. In April, the proposed ballot initiative to create an Extraterrestrial Affairs Commission in Denver started another global media blast.

On May 13, Vatican astronomer Father Funes declared that it's OK to believe in extraterrestrial beings as 'our brothers and sisters' and that such beliefs are not in conflict with faith in God. On May 14, Britain released more than 1,000 documents on UFO sightings from the 1970s and 1980s. Also on May 14, a UFO crashed south of Las Vegas near Needles, CA that immediately attracted “men in black” and a secret military operation. The May 30 Denver press conference showing of Stan Romanek’s “Alien-in-the-window-video” became a smash Internet and news hit and even broke page view records at DenverPost.com.

On July 23, former astronaut

shocked the world with his interview on Kerrang Radio by proclaiming that the Roswell extraterrestrial UFO crash was real and so are government cover-ups of UFO phenomena. Further proof of this cover-up was the Oct. 20 release of more UFO files in Britain that included the story of US airman Milton Torres who was told to shoot down a UFO in 1957 near England.

Finally, on November 5, President Elect Obama announced that John Podesta, an advocate of UFO disclosure, would co-manage the White House transition team. Podesta has stated publicly, "I think it's time to open the books on questions that have remained in the dark on the question of government investigations of UFOs. It's time to find out what the truth really is that's out there. We ought to do it really because it's right. We ought to do it because the American people, quite frankly, can handle the truth. And we ought to do it because it's the law."

Other key White House Cabinet members are like-minded. Bill Richardson of New Mexico, home of the 1947 Roswell extraterrestrial vehicle crash, has stated that “The federal government has not come clean on all that issue [Roswell UFO] and should.” The Rockefeller Initiative briefed Senator Hillary Clinton on the UFO issue. Gov. Napolitano of Arizona surely knows that former Arizona Gov. Fife Symington has admitted to seeing the “Phoenix Lights” UFO. He said he thought it was “some sort of alien spacecraft”. Symington also believes the government has used dis-information tactics to try to discredit thousands of other witnesses.

Confidence that the Obama administration will release the UFO files has also encouraged Jeff Peckman to temporarily suspend his ballot initiative campaign to create an Extraterrestrial Affairs Commission in Denver.

Sephiroth · January 23, 2009

What in God's name is so important about UFO files?

Sarva gattah · January 23, 2009

What in God's name is so important about UFO files?

Good point, at least I put Krishna in the heading. They told us they would wait another 10 years before revealing we are already here

sreeram · January 24, 2009

http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20090118-LIFE-901180316

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_hitech.htm

Also read my post on anciant Indian technology.

mahak · January 27, 2009

No UFOs are identified, we (hare krsnas) know who is who, Yama, Narada, a few other ETs.

I came here thinking that some would be interested in opening the files on the Hare Krsna movement and the interference caused by secret government intelligence and counter-intelligence. Srila Prabhupada, in the latter stages of his appearance, was very concerned about US govt infiltration. This is a real deal, and similar things are already known about official black ops going on against "movements" of the sixties, like black panthers, muslims, SDS, anti war activists, alternative communities, etc.

There was an active oppression against the Hare Krsna movement, and it wasnt just hyper christian de-programmers like ted patrick. A MK Ultra program was really there to cause interneciene warfare amongst the group to destroy from within. Why the infusion of advanced weaponry into krsna communes, why the intense money laundering, white slavery, heroin smuggling, gold and jewelry blackmarketteering, etc. Why the culmination of spiritual birth among peace and lovers became murder and mayhem, naziism.

There are files, but are we ready for them. Like UFOlogy, revelation may not be well received. Do you really want to know your guru murdered my guru, that he was paid by the NSA through a fund controlled by the mafia? That devotee slavery was not from Prabhupada, but from a druggie facing years in prison if he doesnt go along with the plan to get rid of these hippie-hindu wierdos having so much fun in the streets without US supplied methhadrine and opiates and barbituates used to inflect disease on all who dared to oppose the genocide in SE Asia?

Open the files, find out if your guru is really a reptilian from Alpha Centuari.

mahak