Sonic Yogi Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 How do you know this?.Do u have name(s).How about Allah. Allah (Arabic: الله, Allāh, IPA: [ʔalˤːɑːh] Ar-allah.ogg pronunciation (help·info)) is the standard Arabic word for God.[1] While the term is best known in the West for its use by Muslims as a reference to God, it is used by Arabic-speakers of all Abrahamic faiths, including Christians and Jews, in reference to "God".[2][1][3] The term was also used by pagan Meccans as a reference to the creator-god, possibly the supreme deity in pre-Islamic Arabia.[4] The concepts associated with the term Allah (as a deity) differ among the traditions. In pre-Islamic Arabia amongst pagan Arabs, Allah was not the sole divinity, having associates and companions, sons and daughters, a concept strongly opposed by Islam. In Islam, the name Allah is the supreme and all-comprehensive divine name. All other divine names are believed to refer back to Allah.[5] Allah is unique, the only Deity, creator of the universe and omnipotent.[2][1] Arab Christians today use terms such as Allāh al-ʼAb ( الله الأب, "God the Father") to distinguish their usage from Muslim usage.[6] There are both similarities and differences between the concept of God as portrayed in the Qur'an and the Hebrew Bible.[7] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chandu_69 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Allah (Arabic: الله, Allāh, IPA: [ʔalˤːɑːh] Ar-allah.ogg pronunciation (help·info)) is the standard Arabic word for God.[1] Not true.Please dont copy paste things which you have no idea. In arabic ilah=god Allah=name They say "no ilah but Allah". This question is directed at sambya.Let him answer this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic Yogi Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Not true.Please dont copy paste things which you have no idea. In arabic ilah=god Allah=name They say "no ilah but Allah". This question is directed at sambya.Let him answer this. Allah is not a name of God no more than God is a name of God. Allah means "God". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chandu_69 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 This question pops up with predictabile reasons. Many posters have made it clear several times since this old thread at http://indiadivine.org/audarya/hinduism/23145-lord-vishnu-supreme-also-worship-lord-brahma.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chandu_69 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Applying the same logic, Allah is the Supreme; No vision can grasp him...Quran 6:103 So, this mean that Allah, not Krishna is God. Ahh logic.Well, let me give some logic about divinity. Here goes my logic .. 1)A jealous god cannot be a god 2)A god who promises to punish in hell for nonworship is no god. 3) A god who says kill people who dont worship me is no god.. Do u have any objections to these criteria... The Gita has no value to the the Kali worshipper. He has his own sources. It is a display of stark ignorance to imagine my scriptures apply to the entire world. Cheers And krishna doesnt give a damn That is the way god behaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Melvin1 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Dear Chandu_69, before Magellan on March 1521 discovered the place ( Cebu island) where I was born, her residents worshipped a God name Bathala, not Allah. Cebuano historian Manolo Vano researched on this; He came up with this conclusion; That the name Bathala comprised of two words, Bata( Child) and Allah(God). Correct me if I`m wrong, the Muslim natives in Cebu may have worshipped a Child God( Govinda )whom they call Bathala not Allah. I believe the name Bathala came before Muhammed uttered the name of God, Allah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Melvin1 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 For further information try surfing this website about the Sto. Nino( http://www.travelsmart.net/ph/inquirer/) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chandu_69 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Dear Chandu_69, before Magellan on March 1521 discovered the place ( Cebu island) where I was born, her residents worshipped a God name Bathala, not Allah. Cebuano historian Manolo Vano researched on this; He came up with this conclusion; That the name Bathala comprised of two words, Bata( Child) and Allah(God). Correct me if I`m wrong, the Muslim natives in Cebu may have worshipped a Child God( Govinda )whom they call Bathala not Allah. I believe the name Bathala came before Muhammed uttered the name of God, Allah. Melvin i have no idea.Bathala doesnt appear to be related neither to allah nor to govinda.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Melvin1 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Melvin i have no idea.Bathala doesnt appear to be related neither to allah nor to govinda.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathala Yeah, I`m aware of that, Chandu_69. But click on this web page( http://www.travelsmart.net/ph/inquirer/) with the title, " The Sto. Nino.." The original Icon is black in color( kept inside the Basilica`s convent not for display since time immemorial by the Augustinian friars) not the white One( enshrined) given by Magellan to the queen of Cebu Ara Mihan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sant Posted April 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Quote: <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #666666 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 3ex; BORDER-TOP: #666666 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 3ex; BORDER-LEFT: #666666 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #666666 1px solid" bgColor=#e0e0e0>no ! im neither he nor she nor nothing . im not body neither the soul , im not buddhi , nor ego nor existence . CHIDANANDARUPAM SHIVOHAM SHIVOHAM !!! ha ha ha </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <!-- END TEMPLATE: bbcode_quote --> ??????????????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sant Posted April 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 devi bhgwatam does mention krishna as supreme in many skands. refer to earlier posts like 48 though in the start it challenges vishnus position. THIS MAY BE BECAUSE AS KRISHNA IS GOD AND HE IS UNDER RADHARANIS CONTROL AS GOD IS CONTROL UNDER HIS DEVOTEES BY HER LOVE.(PLEASE CORRECT ME ABOUT THIS) DEVI BEING CONTROLLER OF VISHNU CAN BE INTEPRETATED TOWARDS THIS CONCLUSION VERY EASILY. EVEN JAGAD GURU KRIPALU MAHARAJ DESCRIBES KRISHNA AS GOD AND DEVI BHAGWATAM IS MENTIONED IN ONE OF HIS WEBSITES. SO THIS DEVI BHAGWAT CAN BE SOMEWHAT ILLUSIONARY AS I HAVE POSTED IN OTHER DEVI BHAGWAT FORUM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambya Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Yes, Sambya. Your indeed a wonderful creation of God. You are a fighter and humble warrior. You don`t easily ran away from your enemy. You`re a brave and a courageous one. I salute you for your very incisive views in this discussion forum. thank you !! even i appreciate your opinions here !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sant Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 devi bhgwatam does mention krishna as supreme in many skands. refer to earlier posts like 48 though in the start it challenges vishnus position. THIS MAY BE BECAUSE AS KRISHNA IS GOD AND HE IS UNDER RADHARANIS CONTROL AS GOD IS CONTROL UNDER HIS DEVOTEES BY HER LOVE.(PLEASE CORRECT ME ABOUT THIS) DEVI BEING CONTROLLER OF VISHNU CAN BE INTEPRETATED TOWARDS THIS CONCLUSION VERY EASILY. EVEN JAGAD GURU KRIPALU MAHARAJ DESCRIBES KRISHNA AS GOD AND DEVI BHAGWATAM IS MENTIONED IN ONE OF HIS WEBSITES. SO THIS DEVI BHAGWAT CAN BE SOMEWHAT ILLUSIONARY AS I HAVE POSTED IN OTHER DEVI BHAGWAT FORUM <!-- / message --> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sant Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 It Is The Nature Of Maya To Delude And Durga Is Krishna Deluding Mahamaya And Though She Provides Moksh This Devi Bhagwatam Is Not Fully Correct And Is Illusionary And Such Mayavadi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hindustani Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Sant The time you wasted for copy paste or arguing on Who is the supreme God this you could have saved by worship your God or Godess.Comeout of comparison business to save your good karmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sant Posted April 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 I agree but Hindustani god is not my own but everybodys and i am not such a high sadhak like u act like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sant Posted April 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Beside i am talking from shastras and great acharyas not merely through emotions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindustani Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Nupe I am not sadhak,try to diffentiate between worshiper and sadhak. I agree but Hindustani god is not my own but everybodys and i am not such a high sadhak like u act like Beside i am talking from shastras and great acharyas not merely through emotions sometimes your English is too bad,sometime fluent,why to hide imotions Sant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sant Posted April 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 hey you tall about sadhana all the time so i said sometimes your English is too bad,sometime fluent,why to hide imotions Sant? cant get u here on this one what do u say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranjeetmore Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 It Is The Nature Of Maya To Delude And Durga Is Krishna Deluding Mahamaya And Though She Provides Moksh This Devi Bhagwatam Is Not Fully Correct And Is Illusionary And Such Mayavadi Vrajanätha: In Gokula-Upäsanä, Durgä-devi has been counted among Sri Hari’s associates. Who is this Durgä of Gokula? Bäbäji: Durgä of Gokula is none other than yogamäyä. She is situated as the seed of transformation of cit-sakti, so when she is present in the spiritual world, She considers herself to be nondifferent from the svarüpa-sakti. The material mäyä is only a transformation of that yogamäyä. Durgä situated in the material world is an attendant maidservant of that Durgä of the svarüpa-sakti in the spiritual world. The Durgä of the svarüpa-sakti is lélä-posañasakti, the potency that nourishes Kåñëa’s pastimes. The gopis who have taken complete shelter of the parakiya-bhäva (paramour mood) bestowed by yogamäyä, nourish Kåñëa’s rasa-viläs in the spiritual world. This is Durgadevi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogesh Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 is also known by another name such as Allah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sant Posted April 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Yes ranjeetmore i know im talking abou the material durga worshiped but isnt durgadevi mahamaya the maya of this world.rea text 44 purport brahm saMhita to know what i mean to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sant Posted April 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Durga is alah please say from where you r saying. krishn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic Yogi Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Here is the supreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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