SubashRao Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Dear brothers and sisters, I found this on youtube and would like hear what vaishanavas have to say. regards, hare krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic Yogi Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 He is correct on most all the points, except that he fails to mention that there are many Hindus who DO worship ONE God. They are called Vaishnavas and they make up a large section of the Hindus. He is trying to present that all Hindus believe in many Gods, but that just betrays his ill-intentions because in fact many Hindus do believe in the ONE God. So, his propaganda that all Hindus believe in many Gods is again his way to trying to prove supremacy of Islam over Hinduism. When he was quoting Bhagavad-gita, he also forgot to mention that in the gita Lord Krishna makes the claim that in fact HE is that ONE supreme God above all the demigods. So, he was more interested in trying to promote the superiority of Islam over Hinduism, but in order to do so he had to misrepresent Hinduism as being 100% polytheist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chandu_69 Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Dear brothers and sisters, I found this on youtube and would like hear what vaishanavas have to say. regards, hare krishna The major difference b/n islam and vaishnavism/hinduism is islam has a desert version of god who wont tolerate worshiping any body other than Allah and gives instructions to muslims to destroy other religions while hinduism allows people to worship the image of god they choose. quran 9:33: He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the Religion of Truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion, however much the idolaters may be averse. 9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them... "wherever ye find them" means wherever on earth says eminent Tafsir writer Ibn khathir (then fight the Mushrikin wherever you find them), means, on the earth in general, except for the Sacred Area,) (http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2581&Itemid=64). This particular muslim in the video also claims that muhammed is a rishi explained in vedas.He also quotes Bhavishya purana saying that Pishacha means Arabs and Mlechha means muhammed.Funny character. look at his videos http://slnblethers.blogspot.com/2008/05/dr-zakir-joker-naik-and-his-comic.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehat Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 I came across this Zakir Nair person a year or two ago. The person giving the lecture in the video... A lot of the information he gives in his talks are groslly inaccurate and in many cases flat out lies. This man is known for giving the poorest expose on the Bhagavad-Gita. Sonic Yogi is very right when he is advocating this mans attempt to spread propaganda which highlights a superiority of islam over Hinduism. In paritcular he says hindus are pantheists and they think everything is god. And then he says "us muslims believe everything belongs to god". So he makes these subtle false claims without explaining. And then of course all the muslims believe what he is saying is true and see islam as superior. I had seen one or two vidoes were this man was challenged by hindus in the audience. They would call Zaik out on his nonsencial talk but the microphones would be quickly taken away from the hindu members of the audience and the topic would be changed. Also it's amazing how he quotes so nicely from so many numerous texts. Many verses he quote don't exist and also his talks are preplanned - so he knows what he will quote. It's not that he can think of the right quote at any given time. His show is certainly a well orchestrated one. By wooing the audience with his clear ability to talk and by showcasing his brilliant mind he aims to convert those to islam. He is certainly a very intelligent muslim propagandist. It is just a shame he lies in order to push his movement. There are plenty of websites out there that discuss his lying and propaganda tactics. Just search if you're interested. Also let it be known, I do think his general talks of God are very nice too. Its just when he starts discussing other religions then he cheats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvin Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 In the beginning, there was only one India. In the end, there were two, Muslim Pakistan and Hindu India. Similarly, in the beginning, there was only Korea. In the end, there were two, communist North Korea and democratic South Korea. From the beginning there was only Palestine. In the end there was only Israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHari Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Not only dumb, but not in relation to Supersoul ..... Islam apparently has nothing to do with God. Or is it just him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amlesh Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Islam is a set of well defined rules but not more than that, much like any other religion. When well practiced causes no harm. However, the precepts of any religion does not cater for lokasamgraha.. WELFARE FOR ALL SPECIES which is the speciality of the Sanatan Dharma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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