Guest guest Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 I read in one of the books that by doing sadhana in certain way, one gets to listen to voice(may be male or female) . Is this the divine voice or inner voice? Can anyone let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 With respects to sadhana, if the sadhana didnot succeed as per gurudev's book, what should be done? Can anyone give their explainations on this. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Om Namah Shivaya! What is mainly required for success in Sadhana is faith in Gurudev. If we didn't succeed in Sadhana in first try it means we are deficient somewhere spiritually in subconscious, but we should not be disappointed and we must not belittle ourselves. We must try to cling on to Gurudev more and more and do the process again. Those who have reached summit in life in this World have gone through all sorts of failures. It is a famous quote that we learn more from our failures than our successes. The great sage Viswamitra has gone through failures in his Sadhana many times. What did he do? He tried again and again and ultimately succeeded. Same applies for us also. Cheers to all, Jai Gurudev, Mahadevan Venkitaraman --- " S. Iyer " <mrichakatik wrote: > With respects to sadhana, if the sadhana didnot > succeed as per gurudev's book, what should be done? > Can anyone give their explainations on this. > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them > fast with Search. ______________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Ji Gurudev, Life of Tantra Sadhaks will be like a "Piece of Cake", if the Mantra OR Prayog siddhi can be achieved with just faith and love for Gurudev !! Yes, Faith and love are integral part of life for any Sadhak, is that all you need? Unfortunitely NO..... Lot many things are required. Its not a Harry Potter film stint, where in you spell those magic words, and things start happening.... I do not know which specific prayog or mantra you are talking about Mr. Iyer. But here are the general things to ponder over. First of all, take Gurudiksha, and chant enough Gurumantra (5 lacks +), the more the better. You will start feeling Gurudev's presence around, perticularly while chanting Gurumantra. Continue your daily pooja, as mentioned in book "Dainik Sadhana widhi". You might get Gurudev's Darshan in dreams.. Tell your problems to Gurudev, most of the financial, happy married life, success in jobs, promotions etc are solvable by Gurumantra alone, and does not need any other specif sadhana to be done. Moreover Gurumantra does not have any restrictions, you can do it round the clock, anytime anywhere. If you are interested to do specific sadhana, make that request to Gurudev, and wait for his answer. He will indicate you someway. This is called seeking permission from Gurudev. If you do sadhana without the permission, success is doubtful. Only after his permission, you can try doing the sadhana. Starting from "Janan Sanskar" till the Mantra Utkilan etc, there is a long process mentioned in detail in Gurudev's book "Mantra Rahasya". You need to follow that to get success in Sadhana. I hope this helps. Regards, Anand "mahadevanv" <mahadevanv Sent: Thursday, 17 January, 2008 12:49:59 PMRe: sadhana Om Namah Shivaya!What is mainly required for success in Sadhana isfaith in Gurudev. If we didn't succeed in Sadhana infirst try it means we are deficient somewherespiritually in subconscious, but we should not bedisappointed and we must not belittle ourselves. Wemust try to cling on to Gurudev more and more and dothe process again. Those who have reached summit inlife in this World have gone through all sorts offailures. It is a famous quote that we learn more fromour failures than our successes. The great sageViswamitra has gone through failures in his Sadhanamany times. What did he do? He tried again and againand ultimately succeeded. Same applies for us also.Cheers to all,Jai Gurudev,Mahadevan Venkitaraman--- "S. Iyer" <mrichakatik@ > wrote:> With respects to sadhana, if the sadhana didnot> succeed as per gurudev's book, what should be done?> Can anyone give their explainations on this.> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them> fast with Search.____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www.. com/r/hs Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Om Namah Shivaya! Do we have full faith and love for Gurudev? I don't think so. Only we know that we need full faith in Him. But we have many blocks for that absolute faith in our subconscious. And we don't know them. They are accumulated through many lives and they are called 'Vasanas'. We try to get the grace of our siblings, spouse, friends etc. etc. and when we find they reject us, we belittle ourselves. (This is harsh but it is true atleast for me.) Those people I mentioned may reject us because they have fear within them and not because we did something wrong. I may quote this statement but I am not sure whether my subconscious has accepted this point. Gurudev's grace is always open to us. But we only resist His grace. Viswamitra knew as he did his Sadhana he should not give in to lust and anger. His knowledge didn't help him because of his subconsious blocks. He repeated the process again and again and finally succeeded. As we call on Gurudev, He definitely uses His infinite power to remove the effects of our blocks. That process can be at times slow and painful as we have our tendency to resist changes. No doubt Tantra Sadhaks have tough times! This process is not the same for any two individuals. Cheers, Jai Gurudev! Mahadevan Venkitaraman --- Khatri Anand <khatrianand wrote: > Ji Gurudev, > > Life of Tantra Sadhaks will be like a " Piece of > Cake " , if the Mantra OR Prayog siddhi can be > achieved with just faith and love for Gurudev !! > > Yes, Faith and love are integral part of life for > any Sadhak, is that all you need? Unfortunitely > NO..... > > > Lot many things are required. Its not a Harry Potter > film stint, where in you spell those magic words, > and things start happening.... > > I do not know which specific prayog or mantra you > are talking about Mr. Iyer. But here are the general > things to ponder over. > > First of all, take Gurudiksha, and chant enough > Gurumantra (5 lacks +), the more the better. > You will start feeling Gurudev's presence around, > perticularly while chanting Gurumantra. > Continue your daily pooja, as mentioned in book > " Dainik Sadhana widhi " . > You might get Gurudev's Darshan in dreams. > Tell your problems to Gurudev, most of the > financial, happy married life, success in jobs, > promotions etc are solvable by Gurumantra alone, and > does not need any other specif sadhana to be done. > Moreover Gurumantra does not have any restrictions, > you can do it round the clock, anytime anywhere. > If you are interested to do specific sadhana, make > that request to Gurudev, and wait for his answer. He > will indicate you someway. This is called seeking > permission from Gurudev. If you do sadhana without > the permission, success is doubtful. > Only after his permission, you can try doing the > sadhana. Starting from " Janan Sanskar " till the > Mantra Utkilan etc, there is a long process > mentioned in detail in Gurudev's book " Mantra > Rahasya " . You need to follow that to get success in > Sadhana. > > I hope this helps. > > > Regards, > Anand > > " mahadevanv " <mahadevanv > > Thursday, 17 January, 2008 12:49:59 PM > Re: sadhana > > > Om Namah Shivaya! > > What is mainly required for success in Sadhana is > faith in Gurudev. If we didn't succeed in Sadhana in > first try it means we are deficient somewhere > spiritually in subconscious, but we should not be > disappointed and we must not belittle ourselves. We > must try to cling on to Gurudev more and more and do > the process again. Those who have reached summit in > life in this World have gone through all sorts of > failures. It is a famous quote that we learn more > from > our failures than our successes. The great sage > Viswamitra has gone through failures in his Sadhana > many times. What did he do? He tried again and again > and ultimately succeeded. Same applies for us also. > > Cheers to all, > Jai Gurudev, > > Mahadevan Venkitaraman > > --- " S. Iyer " <mrichakatik@ > wrote: > > > With respects to sadhana, if the sadhana didnot > > succeed as per gurudev's book, what should be > done? > > Can anyone give their explainations on this. > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them > > fast with Search. > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > _________ _ > Never miss a thing. Make your home page. > http://www.. com/r/hs > > > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in > your inbox. Go to http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html ______________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Just a small comment/addition. Unfortunately faith and love for Gurudev too is not a " piece of cake " . Gurudev works in mysterious ways and most disciples fail to recognize the divinity behind his simple disposition. , Khatri Anand <khatrianand wrote: > > Ji Gurudev, > > Life of Tantra Sadhaks will be like a " Piece of Cake " , if the Mantra OR Prayog siddhi can be achieved with just faith and love for Gurudev !! > > Yes, Faith and love are integral part of life for any Sadhak, is that all you need? Unfortunitely NO..... > > > Lot many things are required. Its not a Harry Potter film stint, where in you spell those magic words, and things start happening.... > > I do not know which specific prayog or mantra you are talking about Mr. Iyer. But here are the general things to ponder over. > > First of all, take Gurudiksha, and chant enough Gurumantra (5 lacks +), the more the better. > You will start feeling Gurudev's presence around, perticularly while chanting Gurumantra. > Continue your daily pooja, as mentioned in book " Dainik Sadhana widhi " . > You might get Gurudev's Darshan in dreams. > Tell your problems to Gurudev, most of the financial, happy married life, success in jobs, promotions etc are solvable by Gurumantra alone, and does not need any other specif sadhana to be done. Moreover Gurumantra does not have any restrictions, you can do it round the clock, anytime anywhere. > If you are interested to do specific sadhana, make that request to Gurudev, and wait for his answer. He will indicate you someway. This is called seeking permission from Gurudev. If you do sadhana without the permission, success is doubtful. > Only after his permission, you can try doing the sadhana. Starting from " Janan Sanskar " till the Mantra Utkilan etc, there is a long process mentioned in detail in Gurudev's book " Mantra Rahasya " . You need to follow that to get success in Sadhana. > > I hope this helps. > > > Regards, > Anand > > " mahadevanv " <mahadevanv > > Thursday, 17 January, 2008 12:49:59 PM > Re: sadhana > > > Om Namah Shivaya! > > What is mainly required for success in Sadhana is > faith in Gurudev. If we didn't succeed in Sadhana in > first try it means we are deficient somewhere > spiritually in subconscious, but we should not be > disappointed and we must not belittle ourselves. We > must try to cling on to Gurudev more and more and do > the process again. Those who have reached summit in > life in this World have gone through all sorts of > failures. It is a famous quote that we learn more from > our failures than our successes. The great sage > Viswamitra has gone through failures in his Sadhana > many times. What did he do? He tried again and again > and ultimately succeeded. Same applies for us also. > > Cheers to all, > Jai Gurudev, > > Mahadevan Venkitaraman > > --- " S. Iyer " <mrichakatik@ > wrote: > > > With respects to sadhana, if the sadhana didnot > > succeed as per gurudev's book, what should be done? > > Can anyone give their explainations on this. > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them > > fast with Search. > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Never miss a thing. Make your home page. > http://www.. com/r/hs > > > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Go to http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Jai Gurudev, I appreciate your point Shobhit, I said "Piece of Cake", didn't meant of taking it too casually, but to point out, there is a lot further a Tantra Sadhak needs to have over and above the love and trust for Guru to continue sadhana path. Secondaly, I also want to pointout how Tantra world is different than the Bhakti marg, wherein, you just take gurudiksha, don't think anything further, just continue with gurumantra, or nama japa of the lord, thats it.. There is nothing like specific targetted Sadhanas as such, to get you out of different problems, just keep accepting whatever happens to you (finish all your bhog / sins etc), and you will reach the Lord. Which is fairly different approach than the Tantra sadhak's approach. If you see below, the original question was asked regarding failures in sadhanas from Gurudev's book, and the first reply only talked about trust and love to Gurudev, and nothing further... and that's how this thread started. Regards, Anand Shobhit Verma <shobhitverma Sent: Monday, 21 January, 2008 10:24:01 AM Re: sadhana Just a small comment/addition.Unfortunately faith and love for Gurudev too is not a "piece of cake".Gurudev works in mysterious ways and most disciples fail to recognizethe divinity behind his simple disposition.@ s.com, Khatri Anand <khatrianand@ ...> wrote:>> Ji Gurudev,> > Life of Tantra Sadhaks will be like a "Piece of Cake", if the MantraOR Prayog siddhi can be achieved with just faith and love for Gurudev !!> > Yes, Faith and love are integral part of life for any Sadhak, isthat all you need? Unfortunitely NO.....> > > Lot many things are required. Its not a Harry Potter film stint,where in you spell those magic words, and things start happening... .> > I do not know which specific prayog or mantra you are talking aboutMr. Iyer. But here are the general things to ponder over.> > First of all, take Gurudiksha, and chant enough Gurumantra (5 lacks+), the more the better. > You will start feeling Gurudev's presence around, perticularly whilechanting Gurumantra.> Continue your daily pooja, as mentioned in book "Dainik Sadhana widhi".> You might get Gurudev's Darshan in dreams.> Tell your problems to Gurudev, most of the financial, happy marriedlife, success in jobs, promotions etc are solvable by Gurumantraalone, and does not need any other specif sadhana to be done. MoreoverGurumantra does not have any restrictions, you can do it round theclock, anytime anywhere.> If you are interested to do specific sadhana, make that request toGurudev, and wait for his answer. He will indicate you someway. Thisis called seeking permission from Gurudev. If you do sadhana withoutthe permission, success is doubtful.> Only after his permission, you can try doing the sadhana. Startingfrom "Janan Sanskar" till the Mantra Utkilan etc, there is a longprocess mentioned in detail in Gurudev's book "Mantra Rahasya". Youneed to follow that to get success in Sadhana.> > I hope this helps.> > > Regards,> Anand> > "mahadevanv@ ..." <mahadevanv@ ...>> @ s.com> Thursday, 17 January, 2008 12:49:59 PM> Re: sadhana> > > Om Namah Shivaya!> > What is mainly required for success in Sadhana is> faith in Gurudev. If we didn't succeed in Sadhana in> first try it means we are deficient somewhere> spiritually in subconscious, but we should not be> disappointed and we must not belittle ourselves. We> must try to cling on to Gurudev more and more and do> the process again. Those who have reached summit in> life in this World have gone through all sorts of> failures. It is a famous quote that we learn more from> our failures than our successes. The great sage> Viswamitra has gone through failures in his Sadhana> many times. What did he do? He tried again and again> and ultimately succeeded. Same applies for us also.> > Cheers to all,> Jai Gurudev,> > Mahadevan Venkitaraman> > --- "S. Iyer" <mrichakatik@ > wrote:> > > With respects to sadhana, if the sadhana didnot> > succeed as per gurudev's book, what should be done?> > Can anyone give their explainations on this.> > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them> > fast with Search.> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> Never miss a thing. Make your home page. > http://www.. com/r/hs> > > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Goto http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html> Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Click here to know how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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