OBJECTIVE SPIRITUALITY

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Dear Friends,This discussion (a snippet quoted below), is kind of prompting to put forth some thoughts regarding that aspect of SPIRITUAL discipline, which we can refer as - OBJECTIVE SPIRITUALITY.It's known to all that Jyotish, Ayurveda and many such allied ancient sciences are part of the Vedas. Not only that, the whole branch of Sakam Upasana (Objective Rituals) finds its due importance in the Scriptural texts. Though philosophical, but is an inevitable truth that every human being has to find some "purpose"; a purpose that is deciperable and can be acknowledged with gross senses in terms creating a more harmonious & satisfying experience of Living. Without which what is left with us is nothing but, impotent talks on subjective purity and/or abstract theologies on the nature of soul and its

intended goal/s.In the 7th Chapter (Gyan-Vigyan Yog) of The Bhagavad Gita, Lord Sree Krishna has elaborated on this subject.Verse 7.2 is Lord's declaration to confer that knowledge, which shall result in an "Understanding"of both the Subjective (Gyan) as well as the Objective (Vigyan) faculty.Verse 7.4 indicates that, HIS Nature is not different and does manifest in these forms. Thus, developing a deeper Understanding of these is also a part of knowing HIM.Verse 7.11 elaborates CLEARLY, that an OBJECTIVE GOAL is not in opposition to Righteousness, as sometimes suggested by Purist

Spiritualists.Verse 7.30 concludes, infallibly declaring the GIST and KEY on which this whole Realization/Understanding rests while dealing with OBJECTIVE aspects of The Godhead during the course of Living, thus effecting, path for the Soul's further destiny.Can the contributon of Charaka in Ayurveda, Varahmihir in Jyotish, Svatmaram in Hath Yoga, Nagarjuna in Alchemy (and so on.....) be disregarded? It would be mere foolishness and cowardice (in terms of restricted indulgence) to maintain a negative or half-commited approach/thinking towards these faculties and let them fade away in the sands of time.So, what is the Solution?(More ideas are welcome to

explore this)The Solution is "Individual Sadhana", to explore SUBJECTIVE as well as OBJECTIVE faculties of The GODHEAD .....methodology could be in tune with one's likings, temparament, skills & preferences. And it always may not require an 'Avatar' to enforce some radical change for the benefit of mankind. One Sadhak, once centered, if can provide "Objective/Subjective Assistance" to a Small Section of the Society.....a Handful of Sadhaks can reach out a Larger Mass......and with a Resonable Strength surely the Whole Country.................and MORE !!!II Hari Om Tat Sat IIAnupam , shanracer <no_reply wrote:>> , "shachi_ts" shachi_ts@ wrote:> > > Its the individual's choice whether you want to believe the >astrologers or

not...>

> In some places, its nothing but a business, I agree... but

>generalized and irresponsible statements like "Indian Jyotishis

have >a depressing business model(maybe because Indians are

depressing >people), thatinvolves scaring people out of money" are

unacceptable…> > LOL. Shachiji, yes it is a very

generalised statement, I agree. But you dont believe in astrology,

while I not only believe in it, but have been practicing it for many

years. > > I am also a Yogi, which very few astrologers

are(note: Yogi, not Pundit. Pundit is one who knows a lot of

scriptures, maybe a temple priest, maybe someone who spends hours doing

Puja daily, but is still stuck in blind, mechanical, ritualistic

thinking).>