Planetc Pacification (Grah Shanti) for Kind Attn of Dr. Himanshu

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Jai Gurudev!

 

Dear Dr. Himanshu ji,

 

Firstly, my deepest apologies for not being able to respond earlier. I was very busy and I wanted to have ample amount of time on my hands in order to reply to your message.

 

I must say that this message of yours is one of those rare ones which needs to be saved for posterity. It contains a wealth of information especially for a newbie like me (when you said that me being ignorant about the difference between graha pacification and strengthening being a very basic question of astrology, it is true that I am absolutely new to this field and want to learn new things).

 

Himanshu ji, the best part which I liked about your mail was when you said:

 

- "Tantric sadhana can be a cheat code to fate itself." That is sooo inspiring and that is precisely the reason why I am here because I want to change my fate.

 

- "In fact, if someone is willing to go higher, I could tell him ways to completely alter his birth chart." At this point, I felt elated. Please tell me how I can do it.

 

Himanshu ji, you talked about doing a Gayatri chant of 24,00,000 times in 6 hours but just stopped short of saying "how". I am really interested. HOW can it be done? Am surprised that no one else has asked you regarding this in so many days…

 

You also mentioned about finding the True Isht devta and that praying to the right Ishta can yield much faster results. I really don't know how to find my Ishta and am searching but without any avail… Can you help me on this since I understand you are a very good astrologer plus sadhak?

 

Eagerly awaiting your kind and valuable reply once again.

 

Thanks so much for taking out precious time to share this wealth of information with all of us.

 

Warm Regards,

Buddha

 

 

, "N.E. Subhramaniyam" <nes50 wrote:>> Thanks.An excellent and informative post.Thanks for sharing such wealth of information> regds> > > > > ________________________________> scorpion_1112in scorpion_1112in > Monday, 23 February, 2009 4:23:15 PM> Re: Planetc Pacification (Grah Shanti)> > > > Hello everybody> > I see two posts as reply to my last post, and after reading them i > feel like saying and explaining a few things, today is my offday and > i have time so i will try to answer Buddha first and then Anand.> > First i am taking buddhas questions> > 1) Ratio of Japa Is to homa> > ( I am doing copy paste of something from my book, this will help)> > -> -> -> > The Mantra and its number, of Jaap, it's different for different > planet.> > -> -> > The Tantrik Mantras for Planet Pacification are (Most powerful and > effective)> > 1) Sun = "Om Hraam Hreem Hraum Sah Suryay Namah"> 2) Moon = "Om shraam Shreem Shraum Sah Chandra-masay Namah"> 3) Mars = "Om Kraam Kreem Kraum Sah Bhomaay Namah"> 4) Mercury = "Om Braam Breem Braum Sah Budhaay Namah"> 5) Jupiter = "Om Graam Greem Graum Sah Guruvay Namah"> 6) Venus = "Om Draam Dreem Draum Sah Shukraay Namah"> 7) Saturn = "Om Praam Preem Praum Sah Shan-vay Namah"> 8) Rahu = "Om Chhraam Chhreem Chhraum Sah Rahu-vay Namah"> 9) Ketu = "Om Ayeim Hreem Ketvay Namah"> > The Short Tantrik Mantra for Planets are (Medium range, mostly used > in Yantras and offerings)> > 1) Sun = "Om Ghrini Aadityaay Namah"> 2) Moon = "Om Som Somaay Namah Namah"> 3) Mars = "Om Ang Angaar-kaaray Namah"> 4) Mercury = "Om Boom Budhaay Namah"> 5) Jupiter = "Om Brim Brihaspat-yay Namah"> 6) Venus = "Om Shoom Shukray Namah"> 7) Saturn = "Om Sham Shanesh-charay Namah"> 8) Rahu = "Om Raam Rahu-vay Namah"> 9) Ketu = "Om Kaim Ketvay Namah"> > The jaap for a planet/grah is same in thousand as the number of years > for which its mahadasha goes on. > > (And in kal yuga, it may have to be done 4 times <= this is only > because of lack of ability of people in kalyuga to remain pure, that > is totally pure during anushthan). > > This means> > 1) Sun = 6 years => 6,000 * 4 = 24,000> 2) Moon = 10 years => 10,000 * 4 = 40,000> 3) Mars = 7 years => 7,000 * 4 = 28,000> 4) Mercury = 17 years => 17,000 * 4 = 68,000> 5) Jupiter = 16 Years => 16,000 * 4 = 64,000> 6) Venus = 20 Years => 20,000 * 4 = 80,000> 7) Saturn = 19 Years => 19,000 * 4 = 76,000> 8) Rahu = 18 Years => 18,000 * 4 = 72,000> 9) Ketu = 7 Years => 7,000 * 4 = 28,000> > -> -> -> -> -> -> > Procedure of Following Jaap, Havan, Tarpan, Maarjan, Brahman Bhojan> > The number and procedure of the > Havan = 1/10 Jaap> Tarpan,= 1/10 Havan> Marjan,= 1/10 Tarpan> Brahman bhojan = 1/10 Marjan> > For example:> > Mantra Jaap = 1,00,000 (=> 1,000 Mala / Rounds of Rosary) > => Havan = 10 % of Mantra Jaap = 10 % of 1,00,000 = 10,000 (=> > 100 Mala)> => Tarpan = 10 % of Havan = 10 % of 10,000 = 1,000 (=> 10 Mala)> => Maarjan = 10 % of Tarpan = 10 % of 1,000 = 100 (=> 1 Mala)> => Brahman Bhojan = 10 % of 100 = 10> > -> -> -> > If one is not doing havan, tarpan, maarjan after Mantra Jaap then he > can take sankalp for Tarpan and do twice jap for tarpan, sanaklp and > twice jap for Maarjan, so the numbers it become> > Jap in lieu of Havan = 2 * 100 = 200 Mala> Jap in lieu of Tarpan = 2 * 10 = 20 Mala> Jap in lieu of Marjan = 2 * 1 = 2 Mala> Jap in lieu of Brahman = 1 mala (if less than 108, we do atleast one > 1 mala)> > -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 2) Regarding Samidha (wood) and Samagri for Ahuti > > (I'll again copy paste from my book but explain more this time)> > Samidha (Wood Sticks) for various planets > > 1) Sun = Aak Wood> 2) Moon = Palash Wood> 3) Mars = khair Wood> 4) Mercury = Apa-maarga Wood> 5) Jupiter = Peepal Wood> 6) Venus = Goolar Wood> 7) Saturn = Shami Wood> 8) Rahu = Druva> 9) Ketu = Kusha> > And samagri for each ahuti aading swaha> > Til(white seasame seed)= x (u decide this depending on ahutis > required)> Rice = x/2 > Yava = x/4> Sugar = x/8> Gud (Jaggery) = x/8> Dahi(Curd) = x/8> Ghee(Clarified Butter) = x/16> > -> -> -> > Now specifically taking your example of Venus.> > Venus Jaap = 80,000> > => Number of Ahutis required saying "Om Draam Dreem Draum Sah Shukray > Namah Swaha" = 10 % of 80,00 = 8,000 (this means 80 rounds of rosary)> > But to be practical, i never put that many ahutis because it's very > expensive, although it's ideal thing to do but it's expensive.> > Like what i will do is, Make 1000 Ahutis, => 10 Mala. (mala = rosary > round), So i am left with 70 Mala, so i will do 140 more rounds in > lieu of ideal 70 more mala havan that was required.> > But be careful, you will have to announce this in the sankalp for > havan that you will give 1000 ahutis and then do double jap for > remaining ahutis (offerings).> > Or you can completely skip homam and directly do 80*2 = 160 rounds of > rosary by taking sankalp.. > > But i usually prefer atleast some homa, because it mean what you are > offering to fire, breaks up into subtle form and goes directly to the > deity for whom you are doing the homam. > > -> -> -> > And further about the samagri for homam> > Lets say you have to do homam for 1,000 Ahutis.> Lets say that takes 1600 grams of ahuti (=> x = 1600gm)> > (very rough example, but i am using this number 1600 for sheer ease > of calculation)> > =>Til(white seasame seed)= 1600 gm > =>Rice = 800 gm > =>Yava = 400 gm> =>Sugar = 200 gm> =>Gud (Jaggery) = 200 gm> =>Dahi(Curd) = 200 gm> =>Ghee(Clarified Butter) = 100gm> > Total Weight of Misture = 3500 gm = 3.5 kg> > You have to offer the a mixture with this composition okay, "the > mixture" for ahuti.> > Remember, take the Til amound as the mean.> > And to be precise, if you want to be very scientific about it, then > calculate total amount of ahuti that you can put on a small teaspoon. > Multiply that by the number of ahutis you want, then you will get the > total weight of the mixture you need and then decide quantity of > specific ingredient accordingly.> > Oh and one thing, remember this composition of mixture is for Navgrah > Shanti, for homam of other purpose, samidha (wood) Ingredient of Ahut > and basically whole procedure is different. So if this is your first > homam, then remember this composition applies to Navgrah Shanti only.> > -> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 3) Difference Between Planet Pacification and Strengthening. .. and > application of Homam if required.> > Well ofcourse there IS difference between Pacification and > strengthening (will explain in answer to your next question)> > About Homa, well from my learning and experience, its done after > certain jap and you decide for what purpose you are doing a Jaap. > That basically applies to any sort of Mantra Anushthan in general. > Homa is after jap.> > But for strengthening, jaap is not always required.> There are other methods for that like gemstones, yantras, prayogs of > the yantra, storas, kavachas etc.> > -> -> -> -> -> > 4) Which is better, Planet Pacification or Strengthening> > Well this is an absolute basic question of astrology; if you don't > know the precise answer for this question then you are not in a > situation for remedies as such.> > Lets take example of any Healing Science, Doctor Job (as i am)> > You need to be master of 4 things help someone> > 1) Anatomy (Structure of Body)> 2) Physiology (Working of Structure)> 3) Pathology (how structure gets infected/diseases/ injured)> 4) Medicine (how to overcome infection, diseases, injury)> > Taking this in astrological sense, you should know > > 1) Precise placement of planets in different charts, > 2) Their working (exactly what +ve or -ve phal/result they are > yeilding), > 3) Which planets are causing suffering?> 4) Which remedies for those planets?> > Basically all astrological (and i mean classical astrological ones as > from purans) remedies work on > > a) Strengthening of Benefic Planet> b) Pacification of Malefic Planet> > Actually explaining this one point may as well mean explaining whole > of astrology to you, ha ha.... so i will wrap it short and say> > Yes, both these can be... should be applied together, but as you > know, medicine should only be given by an expert, wrong medicine > could aggravate the problem, so be careful.> > -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> > Now coming on to Anandas point...> > First, plz let me numerate various ways of Planet Pacification Grah > Shanti> > 1) Wearing Gemstones> Strengthening a benefic planet also protects from malefic ones.> > 2) Puja (Worship)> Simple worship of unfavorable planet.. shodashupchar, panchopchar. . > with their viniyog, shyan, path.. etc> > 3) Kavach Paath (wearing astral armor)> Tantrokt Kavach path of the favorable planets protects from malefic > effect of unfavorable ones.> > 4) Japa> This is like more advanced and rigorous form of Puja where you do > thousand of chants for pacifying malefic planet.> > 5) Donation > Daan of malefic planet is also one way of pacifying it> > 6) Vrat (Fasting)> Fasting on specific days of malefic planet, with sankalp and > systematic worship of malefic planet is way to pacify them.> > 7) Yantra> Getting a banefic planets Yantra from a Tantrik (common men cannot > make it, only initialized tantrik knows how) is also one way of > protection from malefic planet.> > 8) Tantrik Totka> This simple way of messing (yes practically interfering and messing) > with working of malefic planet by getting control on their kaark > Tatvas (causal elements)> > Like Kaark Tatva as Rasa (taste) for Mars is Sweet, so you donate > sweet naan on tuesday, this doesn't let a malefic mars play it game, > on contrary is reverses.> > Causal colours of mars is red, day for mars is Tuesday... colors for > Jupiter is yellow, day is Thursday... and so on.> > Causal taste of venus is sour, for saturn is salty.. and so on.> > These totaks are very simple, very quick to apply and still very > effective.> > 9) *** Tantrik Mantra Sadhna *** (Spiritual Practice)> > If the person suffering from malefic planet, opts to get diksha for a > Tantrik Mantra from a Sadguru and does Sadhna, or gets it done by > some tantrik, then also he can get his those wishes fulfilled which > were not being fulfilled because of malefic planets.> > Lets discuss one of the practical example which i took> > Lets say someone has Rahu (Dragons Head) and Saturn in 7th house on > Aries (Maish rashi) of their enemy Mars, their total enemy, and on > top of that the lord of 7th house, Mars falls in 8th house and is > totally dibilited on Taurus sign of Venus... plus Ketu is having full > negative aspect on Aries sign of Mars in 7th house> > In such a case, such a person's marital life and money situation life > will be totally disturbed, or let me say destroyed> > Now the severity of the situation is such, that even complete > application of the traditional planet pacification procedures, will > give only a little success.> > Come on, lets be serious and honest... as an astrologer i know > exactly "how much" of a difference which remedy can make in someone's > life and i know the limits of traditional astrological solutions.> > But if he opts for a Tantrik Sadhna, then he will be able to overcome > ill effect of malefic planet.> > Like in this case, if he manages to get succes in a Matangi > Mahavidya, no matter what his thousand past lives bad karmas may have > been... that lead to such a bad placement of planet in his chart... > his power of sadhna will overcome that karma and still give him > wonderful marital life and loads of wealth.> > 10) *** Rudraksh ***> > Ruraksh (scientifically known as Utrasum seeds) also actually come in > Tantrik Category. They are tears and jewels of lord Shiva.> > And well what can i say about power of lord shiva... whatever i say > will be less and sound more of an insult to him... but still i will > try, > > Ruraksh are not gemstone but they can be thousand times more powerful > than any gemstone, but that totally depends on the person wearing it. > > A gemstone is more of one time effort, you can do pran pratishtha and > wear it forever... if it gives say 10 units goodness, then it will > keep giving that till its life (although recharging them after 3-4 > years if good way of cleansing any negativity they gain)> > But a ruraksh, needs more attention and care, and if its treated > properly, it can give you 1000 units of goodness, but still, > observing how common men treat them, they effectiveness is reduced to > same as gemstone or little more.> > One must know tantrik procedure associated for them and follow rules > of wearing them (like don't wear at night, especially not if you have > sex at night, no way!)> > Still for basic purpose, one can do sankar of ruraksh (initialize and > energies) and wear it. > > The number of facets of rudraksh is the most critical thing. Although > some people associate different number of facet to different planet, > but i have found out the number of facet corresponds to number of > houses in a birth chart> > Like in the above example, 7th house is badly inflicted, so he can > wear a 7 facet rudraksh for that.> > -> -> -> -> -> -> > The last two remedies are actually "beyond" planet pacification. ..> > Infact Tantrik Sadhna can be called a cheat code to fate itself!> > Anand bhai, its true i agree, but the point is... extremely few > people are ready to take up that kind of task. Even to do sadhna some > character is required, a dedication to Guru is required, in reality > this is rare!> > Infact if someone is willing to go higher, i can tell him ways to > completely alter his birth char itself! Yes, its possible!> > Even without Tantrik Sadhna, but when i tell this to someone... they > think of me as fool. Because their minds are so closed with what they > know and believe right now...> > These techniques, even beyond tantra, that i am talking right now are > very rare and known to very few human beings on this planet. Only > about 4000 people out of 6 Billion.> > Think of it... doing a Maha Anushthan of 24,00,000 Gayatri month... > in just 6 hours!> > Sounds illogical right? When even one mantra takes 10 seconds, 3 -4 > mala take one house... then how can someone chant 24 00 000 mantra > within 6 hours?> > Well that's one of the secrets of higher planes, and siddhashram is > also such place of secret high level sadhnas, the land of masters.> > And with these techniques, the phal/result you get from that, you can > gain that in just 3 hours!> > Anyhow, i will stop this extremely high level point here and come > back to more ground reality point of Mahavidya.> > -> -> -> -> -> -> -> > Anand bhai, there is a saying> > "Raheeman dekh Badhein ko... lagu naa dijay daari...> Jahan Kaam aaye suyi... kaha karay tarwari!"> > (Never under estimate small after looking at big... the place where > you need need... what will you do with a sword!?)> > Same is true for various sadhnas, their levels.> Because peoples level should match a Sadhaks level!> Actually this is a big topic, i will try to wrap it short.> > -> -> -> > """Concept of True Isht and Sure Short Sadhna Siddhi"""> > Success in sadhna largely depends on your aptitude for certain > deities Sadhna... if as an astrologer you know how to find Isht Deva > of a person out of 33 crore deities, then you would know what i am > saying.> > Usually people make a deity of their liking as their Isht Deva but > thats not wise... that's like a patient deciding which medicine he > should take. Right way is to consult a guru or good astrologer.> > A guru or good astrologer can find that out for you... and know this, > you may worship other deities for 20 years and still be waiting... > while you worship your Isht deva as told to you by your guru, then > you can gain astonishing success in 2 years itself. > > This finding of Isht Deva is directly related to Tattva Gyan. A guru > has enlightened vision, he can see through your soul and in an > instance decide which tattva in your physical and subtle body needs > to be corrected and which deity corresponding to that Tattva will > yield fastest result for you... while an astrologer can use his > knowledge and intellect as his this eye to guide someone on right > sadhna.> > Its like although wealth luxury (aishwarya dhan laabh) is Maha > Lakshmi's department.. . but in reality any other deity if worshiped > properly, can grant you all that. So sometimes worshiping your Isht > deva and asking for things not related to genric department of your > Isht deva, will still yield you faster results, sure shot results.> > Like you can say why worship kul deva when Shiva is the supreme.... > but stil kul deva has is importance!> > People come to astrologers for problems in material life... you can > just tell them why run after pain pleasure and happiness of this > physical world... why not directly do Kundalini Sadhna and go beyond > even happiness to bliss...> > But do you think that is practical? Ofcourse not, hence every sadhna, > even grah shanti at its level has its prime importance.> > -> -> -> -> -> -> > And now taking case of our Guruji... > > First thing, he wasn't an ordinary human being, even before being > born he was already a Siddha in his past life. This actually applies > to almost any spiritual master you may see anywhere in world, they > had gone beyond the point of no return, no fall back> > Like :> Jesus was already enlightened under Essenes group from master Mosses.> Same is true for Sai Baba, or Mahavira...> > Infact in Gautam Buddhas case, the legends have it written, the > moment he gained devine realization under that bodhi tree...> > All the gods and goddesses of heaven, even Brahma Vishnu Mahesha> came to his feet and said "Array bhagwan yeh kya kiya... aapne to wo > prapt kar liya jo aaj tak kisi ne prapt nahin kiya" (you have > attained what no one has attained till today in this kalpa)> > He totally deciphered the damn coding of the universe itself!> > In reality, our Guru had done Sadhnas for thousands of year before, > so you can imagine the purity of his mind and level of his > consciousness.> > Masters take a human birth for specific purposes. Although they are > masters but its rule of physical realm that they still have to again > do all the sadhnas, again rise kundli, but they are able to do this > because their consciousness is already at an high level and their > minds are pure.> > And actually this will also explain to you "why the thousands of > people taking dikshas for Mahavidya Sadhnas are not Siddhas"> > But this does not mean that we cannot succeed in them hence we should > not even think of them, its just that we have to move in different > ways, directly doing those sadhna is not one of those ways.> > One has to work on deeper purification, correcting of Tattvas in his > body and soul to be ready for all sadhna (guru mantra is base for > that purpose)> > There is a famous example, "How can a metal ring float in water?"> Answer "Well it can float if the ring is put around a light stick"> In this case, light stick is the master.> > Although he will not leave you there, a master's true aim is always > to make his disciple a master, so more training.> > -> -> -> > Getting back to use of classical astrological solutions> > Think about it... even Dashrath, father of Lord Rama, the king of > Aayodhya! He had to do pacification of Saturn,> > He could have asked the Raaj Guru Kashyap to do certain tantrik > sadhna but even his guru told him other way.> > On top of that, he had to get done a Putra Kaameshti Homam, > > Even kashyap, guru of Rama had to direct dashrath somewhere as > because that time only one rishi was expert of Atharveda Putra > Kaameshthi Yagya hence Dashratha had to beg with tears in front of > him, wash rishi's feet with his tears...> > And later, he actually had to ask Saturn to stop in his path so that > his sons may have good birth chart.> > So please, i hope you understand Astrology is no joke. > > Its a great tool for knowing the precise problem coming due to > results of past life karma and events.> > Infact even if you classify this as a tool, then saamudrik gyan and > jyotish is Sthool (Gross) while things like karnpishachni, vaartal > devi siddhi, Panchanguli Sadhna, Agyra Chakra Siddhi (complete > psychic sense) these are subtle sciences.> > While astrology can give you blue print of someons life, these subtle > sciences can give you fine details.> > STILL, Astrology has its own place and importance. Some places, > infact most places a Sthool (gross) but quick and easy to use sceince > is required.> > And being a true sadhak, you would know, that almost all tantrik > sadhna require certain muhrat. You cannot imagine sadhna success > without right muhrat.> > -> -> -> -> > And finally, the purpose of remedies> > Everything in universe has three levels> > 1) Physical --(Matter)> 2) Mental ----(Energy)> 3) Spiritual -(Consciousness)> > Finally, lord shiva, cause of the three causes, lord of Maha Maya > Shakti.> > More than 70% of problems in life arise due to a mental or spiritual > cause, infact let me say purely spiritual cause, and > > """A Spiritual level problem asks for a Spiritual level Solution!"""> > Birth chart tell you your destiny... and your destiny is nothing but > what you carry from last lives, your mentality and karma account.> > And when it comes to using Spiritual Level Solution, Sadhna, it > basically deals with correcting the problems in ones destiny (result > of past karma and events).> > Astrology is a wonderful tool in quickly determining the severity of > a problem nd if you are very good astrologer, you can know cause of > it in past life.> > 1) A Mild problem due to destiny can be solved by moderate spiritual > practice (like sadhna which may include Tantrik Prayog demanding 5-6 > hours a day from person)> > 2) A Moderate problem due to destiny can be solved by intense Sadhna > (this may be like an Anushthan that demands 12-14 hours a day)> > 3) A Severe problem due to destiny, cannot be solved by even expert > level sadhna which goes for 16+ hours a day, it can only be solved by > Gurus grace where Guru will have to use some of his spiritual power > to uplift a person from that misery.> > But mind you, no guru will readily do that, its not good. Even if you > have that much spiritual power, it's not wise to take this step.> > Most of suffering in life, no matter how unfair and extreme they look > to a person, are meant to teach them a lesson... and if you solve the > problem, then that person does not get suffering and deep down > doesn't change himself, you actually inhibit his growth.> > Although these days. as you can see on TV, it has become a market to > offer best spiritual solution to help people get of their suffering > due to fate! None of them is a true master; hence their results are > also minimal> > A true guru never does that... but if he can see doing that leads to > your spiritual growth, then he might do it.> > Mind you, spiritual growth does not mean material growth... Spiritual > growth means dissolution of mind, merging with god> > But still, he might help in material growth only if he sees that will > lead to spiritual growth. Like if a person is so frustrated about no > money situation in life that he is too busy making his and other > peoples life hell... not even thinking about spiritual growth, then > he might solve it so that atleast then he will look at spiritual > growth, but even then, first he will try to advise that person a > sadhna so he can do it himself,> > A master by himself has far more spiritual energy than even deities, > but his job is not to provide you material luxuries that trap you > more in this physical dimension... that job is left to devi/devtas > (deities)> > His job is to help you become a master, move to bliss. Take you to > Siddhashram, land of Masters. Deities reside only in third loka.. > Swarga (heaven) but there are places universe far more superior to > even heaven. Master plane (loka) is the highest, closest to the > formless OM.> > One precaution thought, even if someone becomes a master of Tantra > for material gains by overcoming even destiny… he will be like a man > who learnt to master the horses of his chariot (ratha) but forgot > where he was supposed to go.> > So always remember that as aim, when you do "any" sadhna or even > advise someone else a Sadhna.> > Love, light and joy!> Peace and Abundance!> > Dr Himanshu> > Gurudevo Maheshwaro Namo Namah> > , Khatri Anand <khatrianand@ ...> > wrote:> >> > Jai Gurudev,> > > > This is really interesting discussion guys !!> > > > I want to pull out you attention from numbers to something else > now.....> > > > > > > > Let's take some overview here:> > > > 1. People across the world are interested in sadhanas. Many > of them get Guru, a large portion of them are deciples of Gurudev > Nikhileshwarananda, and are our fellow Gurubhais. If you are member > of MTYV magazine, must have attended shivirs, seen videos of Gurudev. > Everywhere regarding success of sadhana, one thing which is always > repeated.... if you do not get success in one try, repeat it second > time, again failure, again repeat, continue till you get success.> > 2. There are probably few thousand people taking Mahavidya > Diksha every year. Generally for mahavidya 1.25 lacks of mantra japa > is prescribed. If done well, can be finished in just 21 days. Even > considering new entrants, finishing in 1..5 - 2 years is not > difficult. Do we see those many Mahavidya Siddhas around??> > > > What conclusions can you draw from this? > > > > If just chanting mantra can get me Mahavdya siddhi.... Graha Pida > is a small problem to tackle. > > > > Then why waste time in doing graha shanti for each graha? > > > > Say on the current discussion of Just one graha shanti costs me > 64000 - 80000 japa, why not do 1.25 lacks of Mahavidya japa, forget > of all the navagraha issues for the lifetime, and you can use that > Mahavidya power to do all the Shatakarma (Maran, Mohan, Vashikaran, > Ucchatan, Stambhan, Shantikaran) ? Mahavidya can give much more than > any graha can ever give.> > > > Where is the issue? We see people spending their whole life for > getting siddhi of just one Mahavidya... . How many times they would > have chanted the mantra?> > > > Our beloved Gurudev got all 10 Mahavidyas, and much more..... > what is it that he has ?...one thing is sure, its not just the > count....... ......... ...... how could he get success in all the > Tantra sadhanas he attempted? > > > > And not only success in one or two sadhana, he got many, and > mastered the whole Tantra field including all branches. He knows > everything about everything !!> > > > Even if we consider time to get siddhi, no other guru ever got any > siddhi as fast as Guruji got, and as much as he got. Thats why is the > the third chosen deciple of Param Gurudev Satchitanandji in past > 15000 years.> > > > > > ... I do not want to quote my comments.... let forum people discuss > this, and we will get back to the count issue after this discussion.> > > > Anand's Knowledge Series: > > > > > > http://groups. / group/guru- nikhil/> > Tantra Public chat room: http://xat.com/ ISSP > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > silver_rhine <buddhadevpc@ ...>> > > > Sunday, 22 February, 2009 12:11:53 AM> > Re: Planetc Pacification (Grah Shanti)> > > > > > Hi Himanshu,> > > > You have raised a very pertinent question and am sure someone will > > soon answer you. After reading your post, few questions have arisen > > in my mind:> > > > 1) Regarding the ratio of the havan to jaap as 1:10, I would like > to > > ask you that if it is possible in every case. Because, according to > > the file uploaded here (at least for the Shukra Graha Pida Nivaran) > > case, it doesn't really distinguish between the number of japa and > > number of homam. In fact, if I were to understand correctly, the > > number of homam (for Kali yug as they say its 64,000... its a > > different thing that your number is different - 80,000) corresponds > > to the number of mantra jaap... Is that right, or am I mistaken?> > > > 2) When you say ahuti, and for the samagri you say > > "Til(white seasame seed)= x (u decide this depending on ahutis > > required)"> > > > Do you mean that if number of japa to be done is 64,000 or 80,000 > > (whichever is the case), then number of tils should be 64,000 or > > 80,000 respectively or is it by weight? Because counting would > really > > be a mammoth task!!> > > > Also, do you have to MIX all of the listed samagri in the given > > ratios and then for each ahuti take a pinch of that and put it in > the > > fire and do it for 6400 or 8000 times (1/10 of japa)?> > > > 3) Is there a difference between 'pacification of planet' > > and 'strengthening of planet' even when it comes to homa? Or, is it > > that for homa both are valid at once?> > > > 4)What IS the difference between pacification and strengthening of > > planet? Which is more effective?> > > > I would really be very grateful if you could throw some light on > the > > above queries...> > > > Jai Gurudev!> > > > - Buddha > > > > , "scorpion_1112in" > > <scorpion_1112in@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Hello everybody, > > > > > > This is my first post in this group so my sadar pranam to all > > > gurubhai and group members, and especially Khatri Anandji.> > > > > > I am already an astrologer so i like to add on to my knowledge > > > wherever possible, always a student of life.... so I just went > > > through the files section of the group as i was very much > > interested > > > in knowing the Grah Shanti (Planet Pacification) methods.> > > > > > There are two things i noticed though> > > > > > 1) The numver, of Jaap, its different.> > > > > > From usually what i learnt, the jaap for a grah is same in > thousand > > > as the number of years for which its mahadasha goes on. > > > > > > (And in kal yuga, it may have to be done 4 times <= this is only > > > because of lack of ability of people in kalyuga to remain pure, > > that > > > is totally pure during anushthan). > > > > > > This means> > > > > > 1) Sun = 6 years => 6,000 * 4 = 24,000> > > 2) Moon = 10 years => 10,000 * 4 = 40,000> > > 3) Mars = 7 years => 7,000 * 4 = 28,000> > > 4) Mercury = 17 years => 17,000 * 4 = 68,000> > > 5) Jupiter = 16 Years => 16,000 * 4 = 64,000> > > 6) Venus = 20 Years => 20,000 * 4 = 80,000> > > 7) Saturn = 19 Years => 19,000 * 4 = 76,000> > > 8) Rahu = 18 Years => 18,000 * 4 = 72,000> > > 9) Ketu = 7 Years => 7,000 * 4 = 28,000> > > > > > The mantras in that context are same as given in file section> > > Also the havan samidha (wood)is Same> > > And samagri for each ahuti aading swaha> > > > > > Til(white seasame seed)= x (u decide this depending on ahutis > > > required)> > > Rice = x/2 > > > Yava = x/4> > > Sugar = x/8> > > Gud (Jaggery) = x/8> > > Dahi(Curd) = x/8> > > Ghee(Clarified Butter) = x/16> > > > > > And the number and procedureof the > > > havan = 1/10 Jaap> > > tarpan,= 1/10 Havan> > > marjan,= 1/10 Tarpan> > > bhrahman bhojan = 1/10 Marjan> > > > > > This everyone knows...> > > > > > So my first qustion is, From which, which Samhita or puran are > > these > > > Japa Quantity taken?> > > > > > Please, i dont contradict whats gives, but i need to know more in > > > depth, i respect other systems and wish to know more of this > system.> > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Secondly about yantra..> > > > > > Well the shape and size of Yantra is same, except for> > > > > > 1) Absence of Beej Mantras on Yantra> > > 2) Prepration on in different type of metal for amulet (taabeez)> > > > > > And MOST importantly> > > > > > Here Yantras are given for pacification of planet, while i have > > > learnt them for strengthening of planets.> > > > > > Its like the same issues with gemstones...> > > > > > For example, Some people make you wear Gessonite (Gomedhak) to > get > > > better results from Rahu during Rahu Mahadasha while some people > > make > > > you stay miles away from it.... same for wearing Ble Sapphire > > (Neelam) > > > during Shani Mahadadha and so on...> > > > > > While other people make you stay strictly away from these stones > > when > > > rahu, saturn etc are being maleifc.> > > > > > Although from my experience over years, i found the second option > > to > > > be better, gemstones and "even its tantrik yantra) are mean to > > > stengthen a planet. If a person cannot afford quality yantra, > > atleast > > > he can wear yantra as ring in precribed metal and finnger OR he > can > > > make amulet (taabeez) out of it.> > > > > > There is only one little twist in the story though> > > > > > The Vidhi Vidhan of wearing and treating a gemstone or Yantra> > > > > > I learnt that some system have a vidhi vidhan which reverses the > > > procedure of rays absorbption in body... the same gemstone which > > was > > > increasing rays of certain planet in body... or same yantra which > > was > > > increasing nenergy of certain planet, can be used oppositely to > > > decrease the effect and energy.> > > > > > If this is the case with the yantras given in the file section, i > > > would like to know the asbolutely precise vidhan related to them. > > > This knowledge can be seriously of great use/help for all.> > > > > > Waiting for more light on these 2 topics> > > > > > Regards> > > Himanshu> > > > > > Gurudevo Maheshwaro Namo Namah!> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger. / invite/> >> > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/>

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Hello sir...

 

I must say thanks for your humility in your mails???

 

Everybody, Read this (part of a mail from Buddha)

 

" if and when you do get the time to do the analysis, I wouldn't want you to

waste your time again writing me a long email... If it is ok with you, I can

call you on your phone or skype or gtalk whatever you may prefer so as to save

you from the trouble of putting down everything to text... "

 

See... this is the point... this is the problem... this is exactly why i almost

avoid talking on blogs or forums or groups... i dont want people following me.

 

I hardly get time out of my job, then education (learning new skills), then

practicing those skill, then household works.. and then in the remaining time i

answer such mails, that's why usually Sunday or maybe even Saturday is the day

when i even get some time to answer such mails... and even then, i am man who

believes in Quality or Quantity, it takes me time for each mail.

 

But you shout out on me as if i have committed a major fault on my part... when

in reality i deal with 10 other people like you simultaneously, and they are in

far more severe condition than you.

 

I think i have been kind enough... far to gentle in mails, but i will keep the

decency of not copying it here, rather i will just tell you to put forth all

that you sent to me in personal mail over here... i believe my other gurubhais

are far more talented to handle that sort of problem.

 

In short, you were asking me of a " Vashikaran " type thing... and everyone here

knows how serious issue that is and how much caution needs to be observed.

 

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But still you know what, i get sick of handling people at time... people want to

improve the conditions around them but they dont want to change themselves!

Their lower mindset which actually lead to these problems... and not just in

this life, in fact in many past lives!

 

People don't want to become student of Tantra… they don't want to learn the pure

essence of it… the absolute tattava gyan of a soul as well as universe… but all

they want is their wishes to be fulfilled through Tantra.

 

People want to get the " Practical " knowledge of Tantra… without understanding

the base theory of it… because even Tantrik core theory talks of Moksha as

ultimate aim and cultivating sattvikata and ways to move towards sattvikta even

if a person is trapped in Tamsikta… this to them is like needless prelude or

pravachan. Anyways, in every science its always theory first and then practical,

doing practical without going through theory is dangerous.

 

And one must remember… " Even more important than spreading of knowledge is the

prevention of misuse of knowledge " And this is totally applicable to field of

Tantra… because if one does not have inner purity… then tantra can and will take

him to lowest level of hell.

 

They want me to give quick fix formulas to get rid of their sufferings... so

that they can again indulge and be lost in pleasures of life... but not having

to learn any spirituality.

 

This is why, this is " exactly " why masters warn their disciples... " Never

exhaust all you spiritual energy in fulfillment of your material desires "

 

Tantra in itself was primarily meant for spiritual growth... but as time

progressed, masters saw material problems... physical level problems holding

back their disciples so tantras for the purpose of material growth were also

 

But if even Tantra is used too much for material desire only, then again sadhak

becomes slave of desires and trapped in maya... earlier your physical level

actions were their for desires, and later your spiritual level effort is their

for wishes... still being away from the silent god element within, hence staying

away from spiritual growth.

 

And this is why " Guru Diksha " is a must, as it can make sure you move towards

spiritual growth. (not just any other Sadhna Diksha)

 

In short, my point is, if a person is not wanting to learn the core spiritual

lessons of life... not wanting to get rid of lower mindset, not wanting to

increase his spiritual knowledge but just wants to remain old self and " get his

wish " through Tantra, then please find someone else.

 

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It is not my objective to write great blogs or books or messages to show off

knowledge.... its not my responsibility to spread knowledge, definitely not on

large scale. If Sometime later in life guruji tells me to do that, i may do

it... or else from myself, i shall not.

 

As a sadhak you must understand, spreading knowledge is good but lets leave the

teaching part to Gurudev himself... sure helping others is good, but why not

help them by directing them to our greater source. This way you can keep your

sadhna secret intact and still spread knowledge. It is only in rare case of

extreme emergency where one of us may suggest something from our side... and i

usually post something big when i feel wrong or corrupted knowledge is passed...

this can hurt name of tantra and the person practicing it, and please I don't

want that to happen, our gurudeva worked hard enough in his physical lifetime to

battle this situation.

 

Although its like this, a 10th class student can teach a 2nd class student (and

i am not even in 10th) but this is not the ideal situation... the best situation

is when a qualified teacher teaches a student... because a qualified teacher not

only has higher level of knowledge... more importantly he knows how to put it

correctly in students head.

 

A 10th class student may be a topper in his class... a brilliant student, but

that doesnt make him a good teacher. Teaching is a totally different skill...

and in spiritual world, its everything.

 

Please understand

 

Whatever i can teach you... my master can teach you a thousand times better! No

wait, thats an understatement... let me say million times better than me.

 

So which way do you want it... this pathetic slow way OR million times better

great way?

 

In my childhood i was virtually trained by my atheist father to hate spiritual

things and occult... call all this non scientific nonsense.

 

Hence when i first read about Sadhna in early teenage... i thought of it nothing

but a unscientific way of fooling people with religion as trap used by phony

religious heads calling themselves gurus.

 

Later i realized how sadhna is supposed to be technique for training mind and

intellect... but still felt these Gurus are selfish people trying to keep

knowledge to themselves making others slave by diksha and spiritual secrecy rule

(never tell you sadhna to anyone)

 

Still later, i realized what the spiritual world is... i had access to Tattva

gyan... various beings from Subtle Positive and Sutble Negative regions of

universe... and then i understood what exactly the word guru means (wait, i

should not say exactly)... he is no human being carrying extra ordinary

spiritual knowledge or magic techniques... he is that supreme soul... higher

than Gods themselves!

Thats when i realized every sadhna starts with guru... and my sadhnas started.

 

Still later, i realized sadhna doesnt just start with guru... it is actually

almost carried out by him! We think we do a great job by doing 5-6 hours (or

even 16 hours) of chanting? Well in reality he is also doing work at your

back... his diksha energy in you that is... without which you will never be

complete. Thats why i say Guru Mantra is base for success in sadhnas.

 

And now when i feel i can see through most sadhnas, i understand Sadhna doesn

only start with Guru... but it ends with Guru.

 

Think about it... the people of Siddhashram... each and everyone of them is

higher than any god or goddess you can imagine... but still they are engaged in

sadhnas... higher level of Sadhnas..

 

What will such a person do? One who has Asht Maha Siddhi, Nav Nidhi, Dus

Mahavidya almost as servants... and ofcourse all Gaun and shudra siddhis... on

who has mastered yoga and tantra... one who can produce and control anything

just by thought... what will he do? What kind of sadhna?

 

Well they do Guru Poojan. The absolute highest tattva in universe is Par Bhram

(Pure Unmanifested Consciousness)... wait its no tattva, it the source of even

tattvas... source of even mind, intellect and ego.. source of even shaktis

triguna... and Guru is the only closest Saakshat form of it.

 

So from whom do you want to learn... me or him? It will be stupid egoistic and

almost sinful of me to do that...

 

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Still i will answer your questions to settle your curiosities

 

Q) About the higher sadhnas and doing 24 lakh mantra in 6 hour... well that is

possible only if you do it in " Pashyanti Vaani " . This is even more subtle form

of Manas Jap....

 

See if you move your lips... you physically speak out a word... then it takes

time... like Mrityunjaya Mantra... you can atmost do 3-4 Mala (Rosary Round) in

one hour...

 

Mind moves faster than tongue... mind moves faster than wind... mind moves

faster than even light

 

Yes, think of it... traveling from sun to earth... light takes 8 minutes and 18

seconds.. but your mind, if has activated 6th sense... it can know whats

happening on sun, and then whats happening on earth in less than a second... see

how outdated our modern gadgets are.

 

Thats why Mind is faster than even time... you can not just reach any part of

physical plane in one timeline... you can also access different parts of

metaphysical plane... that too in different timelines!

 

The problem is, man has started developing things outside of him, as a result of

which the quality of physical comforts has increased... but the quality of human

mind and soul has degraded because focus has shifted from spirit/god as form of

bliss to external world as source of happiness.

 

Anyhow, point was, mind is the fastest thing... it is higher tattva, even higher

than Panch Mahabhoot (5 Absolute Cosmic Elements), or Panch Tan-maatra. Mantra

is the tool for training mind... mantra is the tool for enhancing and directing

minds powers... and using a mind trained by mantra, you direct even higher

energies of universe (energies of gods and goddesses) in your favor.

 

A japa (chanting) on the mental plane is 1000 times moe effective than a japa on

physical plane... and on top of that, you dont just get more reward for each

japa... you can also chant more number of mantra in the same time of physical

plane. If orally you cant 1 mantra in 10 seconds... then in pashyanti you

multiply that by 1000. So you can imagine the efect... you do more chants and

each chant is more concentrated and effective.. hence result is 1000 * 1000

 

But using mind in such a manner is not possible for everybody, that takes great

training... we can hardly do proper japa in Vachik (oral) mode.... if you try

Manas, than you will find many other thoughts start clouding your mind...

chanting is totally outlined... and you end up fantasizing/visualizing something

else... the quality of japa is pathetic.

 

So how can a not so advanced sadhak do that order of advanced sadhna?

 

To be honest... he cannot!

 

It takes not just years but actually lives of training to raise ones

consciousness to that level.

 

Now understand this:

 

Consciousness > Conscience > Control

 

The higher the consciousness (level of awareness), the higher is the link to

universal mind hence higher knowledge and conscience...

 

And higher the conscious conscience... higher the control... of even life forces

and mind. (note: i said conscious conscience, not blind conscience which works

as subconsciously acted out rules/habbits)

 

So main thing is about raising the level/frequency of consciousness... but doing

this at will, requires great training. And now focus, the word will is an

attribute of intellect... mind has the instincts and storage but intellect

(buddhi) is the governor... it decides which thought is to be handled how and

how it should be acted out or not. So intellect may train the mind... but what

will train the intellect?

 

There is only one way.. that is by awakening the real " you " within you. What we

call as " Aatma " (Spirit... not just soul) is a very subtle word.

 

Body changes, mind changes, intellects habbit change... but there is something

in you which never changes... which doesnt think or feel... which always keeps

watching silently... that unchanging self, that consciousness is Spirit (Aatma)

 

Infact spirit doesn't even talk... not even mentally... it is a mere

spectator... although people will tell you spirit can command mind and

intellect.. but from experience i can tell you that is a lie, Aatma doesnt even

talk... its mere awakening is like a fear to mind nd intellect which sets them

straight.

 

Aatma (Spirit) is not the karta (doer) or Bhokta (experiencing one)... Jivaatma

(Soul) is karta (doer) and bhokta (experiencing one)

 

Aatma = Spirit

Jivaatma = Spirit clouded by Triguna and... Ego + Intellect + Mind

 

The real process of awakening of Aatma starts when mind and intellect understand

they have to be removed or let me say loosened so that light of Aatma from

within can shine out... that dark cloud of Ego+Intellect+Mind needs to be

removed.... its not that these three get destroyed, it is just that they direct

themselves to aatma within.

 

So in order to reach " that " level of consciousness, first step you have to

understand this sort of dissolution of mind and intellect... intellect has to

be convinced this is the best. Only then mental silence and true concentrated

effort starts building.

 

I am saying it just starts... doesnt happen completely, because although almost

everyone talks how great and important surrender is... may it be to god or

guru... but in reality no one completely surrenders! A total surrender is the

most difficult thing to do... infact one cannot do it, it just happens... doing

is by intellect or ego but surrender is even above them.

 

It happens when Satvikta increases... then the fear is not experienced by a

sattvik mind and intellect.

 

Now wait, at this point, mind you... there are souls in his univrse who have

total control of their mind... they can become thoughtless or do single minded,

total concentration Sadhnas... but they have not surrendered as they have not

learnt to lower their ego, rather expanded it... hence their intellect is also

Tamsik.

 

They will do and succeed in sadhnas... but for evil purpose (like rakshas you

read in Purana). By the power of their concentrated Sadhna they can make even

gods and godesses, even Tridev their slaves...

 

Like there is a Sidhashram of Positive saints... there are darker regions of

this universe (greater levels of hell/patal) where evil mantriks reside... and

believe it, their power is almost equal to saints of sidhashram. Like Daitya

Guru Shukracharya (Master of Demons)... in front of him even Deva Guru

Brihaspati (Master of Deities) or Manushya Guru Vishwamitra (Master of Humans)

may be outclassed.

 

(And yes, people ask if siddhashram saints are so great and powerful... what do

they do to help us... well they are busy stopping the evil mantrik, its only

because of their knowledge and selfless support that we even live a day... so

much goes in subtle realms which we may not realize in our whole lives as we are

busy indulged in our own little lives)

 

The higher evil mantrik train lower evil entities... and supply them with powers

to carry out evil work... and for sometime the lower evil entity enjoy... but

their form of enjoyment is tamsik, and it is eternal rule of universe that

tamsik happiness gives far more sadness in return. Hence they gain 1 unit of

happiness followed by 100 units of sadness... they are in vicious cycle.. to

again get 1 unit of Tamsik happiness, they do more sadhna... 1 unit happiness

and 100 more unit sorrows... they get trapped, and this doesnt change till ego

lowers and sattvikta grows.

 

So be careful, don't fall for that trap... or their trap as if you worship them,

they will quickly solve your problem by giving you negative energy but then make

you a slave and part of their group.

 

So sattvikta and lowering of ego is a must when you are on a spiritual path....

and even more so, dedication to a master, because he makes sure you dont fall in

that kind of trap. Still, dedication to a master also happens when atleast some

part of ego is diluted okay.

 

See i dont like it when people start treating even Guru as a deity to be

worshiped before every ritual... thats almost degrading him, insulting him...

and most people come running primarily because they are troubled by material

life problems due to their karma or stupid desires... not because they are

looking for spiritual growth, or moksh kind of thing.

 

So you should remember his place and his ultimate purpose... which is to make

you a master.

 

Anyhow, getting back to point of raising consciousness for higher sadhna... well

what i wrote above was related to this goal only as i told you of two major

obstacles... obstacles from within a Jivatma (soul) and obstacle of Evil

Mantrik's lure...

 

And now, getting back to even more ground level... for some xyz sadhak who jut

entered the field of sadhna and occult... one whos awareness level if low and

mind is quarreled within most of the time... one who is having hard time even

doing Mantra Anushthan in Vaachik (oral) mode

 

For him the only remedy... Only way a person can reach that level of

consciousness is by trance or hypnotism. But then, his intellect is dissolved...

he is not controlling the trance direction or depth, rather a therapist is.

 

Although hypnotism is a temporary calming of conscious mind and intellect, but

its still a great tool and a lot of work can be done through it... that too in

quick time.

 

Now consider a case where a person in present life is suffering from a disease

or relationship problem due to some bad karma or trauma of last life... (it can

be any last life.. 2 lives ago.. 10 lives ago.. r even 100 lives ago)

 

See like if you murdered someone in past life... and lets say it credited 100

units from your karma account... then in this life you will have to work hard to

overcome those 100 units... do good deeds to debit 100 units in your karma

account to atleast come to an even point... you may have face mental unrest or

other misfortune till you save 100 people...

 

And he make take 10 lives to do that! Plus, during these 10 lives he may end up

accuring more bad karma side by side for which he may have to live 10 more lives

just to balance his karma account! Hence it becomes a vicious circle.

 

See here saving people is an attempt on the physical level... and even the

suffering is meant to help spiritual growth so that person learns killing is

bad... and by repetition cements this rule in head.

 

As i always say, " A problem of a spiritual nature asks for a solution of

spiritual nature " . In this case you will be using a solution of a spiritual

nature.

 

A short cut will be Sadhna... instead of wasting his whole life or lives trying

to balance out karma account on physical level, he can do a mantra anushthan and

balance it out in few days (a month atmost if done properly).

 

Sadhna and its type will be decided by his guru, keeping in mind his karma

account and his soul nature... hence he will learn the required lesson (by

learnin i mean deeply learn so that he doesn't do it again in any life) plus he

will balance out karma account and PLUS he will get more debit in his karma

account.

 

But the fact is... for the man of today... even doing a sadhna and succeeding is

a big task! If he were to solve it purely by Mantrokt sadhna... that will be a

long cut. A sadhna is an attempt to balance out your karma account as doing

Sadhna in itself is a Punya (good deed).

 

A Tantrokt Sadhna is lightly easier as compared to Mantrokt one but Tantrokt

sadhna requires more caution and even more precise knowledge of articles to be

used. (this is very relative comparison though, if a souls basic nature is to do

Mantrok then he might find Tantrokt difficult, Mantrokt sadhna is for man of

will power)

 

 

And even shorter cut will be a Past Life Therapy... this will be in matter of

hours.

 

Although Sometimes even in Past life Therapy it happens that end result comes

out to be an answer from either some master or maybe even god (yes, i said god)

 

In past life therapy, you can directly cross the barriers of time and reach that

lifetime where spiritual root cause of problem originated and then solve it

their itself… like take apology their itself, yes its possible.

 

I have seen people crying for disastrous marital live… they say we have kaalsarp

yoga and Saturn in 7th house… we have done all astrological remedies and prayer

but still we are cursed..

 

And even that level of problems have been solved in 2-3 sessions.

 

And this is the highest level of science I was talking about, and its not my

responsibility to teach you okay… it took me years and hardwork to learn this.

At this point knowledge is very critical and I can take no chance whatsoever of

its misuse.

 

Still if you want to benefit from it, then go to a therapist.

 

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Q) About Isht Deva and faster siddhi

 

Yes i did say that and I totally stick to my words on this one, its true.

 

But even before you find Isht deva, you should find your Kuldeva... and even

before you find kuldeva, you should find your Gurudeva

 

That was clear in my last post... wasn't it?

 

As far as astrological way of finding Isht deva is concerned, well its a long

procedure which takes 1-2 hour to find out... so many Chakras (like Kurma

Chakra, Akdam Chakra... ) need to be consulted with respect to your birth

Nakshatra, hence the Akshar (alphabet) from that nakshatra.

 

That is a longgg procedure and i don't think its required here... still if you

want, then take appointment from some good astrologer.

 

But why even take appointment... when you have gurudev with you!

 

I say first you should consult the elders of your family and know your

kuldevta/kuldevi from them, and make kuldeva worship a must right after guru

poojan and ganesh poojan... and then you should take Diksha and consult Guruji.

 

When you talk to him, just tell you what want and what is the best way to

achieve it... that's it, leave rest to him, he will scan your subtle body and

mind in a minute and tell you which sadhna.

 

Infact he will not only tell you which deity to worship, but he will also tell

you how to worship that deity

 

For example:

 

Lets say one has to do Lakshmi Sadhna

 

Now every Sadhna can be done in three ways

 

1) Divya Bhaav => Sattvik Vritti/Nature Sadhak

2) Veer Bhaav => Rajasik Vritti/Nature Sadhak

3) Pashu Bhaav => Tamsik Vritti/Nature Sadhak

 

 

 

Shri Lakshmi has 4 vehicles

 

a) Garuda (Crane) = Sattvik

b) Hasti (Elephant) = Rajsik

c) Kamal (Lotus) = Rajsik

d) Ulluka (Owl) = Taamsik

 

If the ritual was Vedic... a dakshin maarga tantra, then you would choose the

Dhyan image of Lakshmi on Garuda. Then the offerings will also be sattvik.

 

If the ritual was purely tantrik... then you would choose her image on Hasti or

Kamal. Since common householder is usually between Saatva and Tama, hence the

Lotus one is the most common form we know.

 

If the ritual was Aghor type... deep in Vaam Marga side, then you choose her

image on Owl. Then the offerigs will also be Tamsik, maybe actual animal

sacrifice.

 

 

Really even same sadhna with same mantra can be of So many types..

 

Sabar Tantrokt

Sabar Mantrokt

Sabar Aghor

 

I am giving example of Sabar because usually they are considered to be lowest

class mantra... " Paishachik Mantras " ... lowest in the terms of stimulating

higher bodies. Thats why vedic mantras are called highest mantras since they are

more " meaning " oriented... hence they stimulate mind and intellect more... all

vedic mantra are " Swayam Siddha "

 

But still, for some person X, a sabar mantra sadhna may be best. And be rest

assured, physically mentally spiritually the effect will be the same.

 

So I hope how different types of sadhna in different moulds are suited for

different kinds of Sadhak. Really, there are as many paths to god as number of

souls on this planet… even slightest of difference in techniques can change a

lot, and let the master decide that.

 

 

Next time you accost any Spiritual Doctor… just keep in mind the points I

elaborated here… because I did this for every other person like you who may come

across this group for your purpose.

 

Light and Abundance!

Himanshu

 

Gurudevo Maheshwaro Namo Namah

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " silver_rhine " <buddhadevpc wrote:

>

>

> Jai Gurudev!

>

>

>

> Dear Dr. Himanshu ji,

>

>

>

> Firstly, my deepest apologies for not being able to respond earlier. I

> was very busy and I wanted to have ample amount of time on my hands in

> order to reply to your message.

>

>

>

> I must say that this message of yours is one of those rare ones which

> needs to be saved for posterity. It contains a wealth of information

> especially for a newbie like me (when you said that me being ignorant

> about the difference between graha pacification and strengthening being

> a very basic question of astrology, it is true that I am absolutely new

> to this field and want to learn new things).

>

>

>

> Himanshu ji, the best part which I liked about your mail was when you

> said:

>

>

>

> - " Tantric sadhana can be a cheat code to fate itself. "

> That is sooo inspiring and that is precisely the reason why I am here

> because I want to change my fate.

>

>

>

> - " In fact, if someone is willing to go higher, I could

> tell him ways to completely alter his birth chart. " At this point, I

> felt elated. Please tell me how I can do it.

>

>

>

> Himanshu ji, you talked about doing a Gayatri chant of 24,00,000 times

> in 6 hours but just stopped short of saying " how " . I am really

> interested. HOW can it be done? Am surprised that no one else has asked

> you regarding this in so many days…

>

>

>

> You also mentioned about finding the True Isht devta and that praying to

> the right Ishta can yield much faster results. I really don't know

> how to find my Ishta and am searching but without any avail… Can you

> help me on this since I understand you are a very good astrologer plus

> sadhak?

>

>

>

> Eagerly awaiting your kind and valuable reply once again.

>

>

>

> Thanks so much for taking out precious time to share this wealth of

> information with all of us.

>

>

>

> Warm Regards,

>

> Buddha

, " N.E. Subhramaniyam " <nes50@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Thanks.An excellent and informative post.Thanks for sharing such

> wealth of information

> > regds

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > scorpion_1112in scorpion_1112in@

> >

> > Monday, 23 February, 2009 4:23:15 PM

> > Re: Planetc Pacification (Grah Shanti)

> >

> >

> >

> > Hello everybody

> >

> > I see two posts as reply to my last post, and after reading them i

> > feel like saying and explaining a few things, today is my offday and

> > i have time so i will try to answer Buddha first and then Anand.

> >

> > First i am taking buddhas questions

> >

> > 1) Ratio of Japa Is to homa

> >

> > ( I am doing copy paste of something from my book, this will help)

> >

> > -

> > -

> > -

> >

> > The Mantra and its number, of Jaap, it's different for different

> > planet.

> >

> > -

> > -

> >

> > The Tantrik Mantras for Planet Pacification are (Most powerful and

> > effective)

> >

> > 1) Sun = " Om Hraam Hreem Hraum Sah Suryay Namah "

> > 2) Moon = " Om shraam Shreem Shraum Sah Chandra-masay Namah "

> > 3) Mars = " Om Kraam Kreem Kraum Sah Bhomaay Namah "

> > 4) Mercury = " Om Braam Breem Braum Sah Budhaay Namah "

> > 5) Jupiter = " Om Graam Greem Graum Sah Guruvay Namah "

> > 6) Venus = " Om Draam Dreem Draum Sah Shukraay Namah "

> > 7) Saturn = " Om Praam Preem Praum Sah Shan-vay Namah "

> > 8) Rahu = " Om Chhraam Chhreem Chhraum Sah Rahu-vay Namah "

> > 9) Ketu = " Om Ayeim Hreem Ketvay Namah "

> >

> > The Short Tantrik Mantra for Planets are (Medium range, mostly used

> > in Yantras and offerings)

> >

> > 1) Sun = " Om Ghrini Aadityaay Namah "

> > 2) Moon = " Om Som Somaay Namah Namah "

> > 3) Mars = " Om Ang Angaar-kaaray Namah "

> > 4) Mercury = " Om Boom Budhaay Namah "

> > 5) Jupiter = " Om Brim Brihaspat-yay Namah "

> > 6) Venus = " Om Shoom Shukray Namah "

> > 7) Saturn = " Om Sham Shanesh-charay Namah "

> > 8) Rahu = " Om Raam Rahu-vay Namah "

> > 9) Ketu = " Om Kaim Ketvay Namah "

> >

> > The jaap for a planet/grah is same in thousand as the number of years

> > for which its mahadasha goes on.

> >

> > (And in kal yuga, it may have to be done 4 times <= this is only

> > because of lack of ability of people in kalyuga to remain pure, that

> > is totally pure during anushthan).

> >

> > This means

> >

> > 1) Sun = 6 years => 6,000 * 4 = 24,000

> > 2) Moon = 10 years => 10,000 * 4 = 40,000

> > 3) Mars = 7 years => 7,000 * 4 = 28,000

> > 4) Mercury = 17 years => 17,000 * 4 = 68,000

> > 5) Jupiter = 16 Years => 16,000 * 4 = 64,000

> > 6) Venus = 20 Years => 20,000 * 4 = 80,000

> > 7) Saturn = 19 Years => 19,000 * 4 = 76,000

> > 8) Rahu = 18 Years => 18,000 * 4 = 72,000

> > 9) Ketu = 7 Years => 7,000 * 4 = 28,000

> >

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> >

> > Procedure of Following Jaap, Havan, Tarpan, Maarjan, Brahman Bhojan

> >

> > The number and procedure of the

> > Havan = 1/10 Jaap

> > Tarpan,= 1/10 Havan

> > Marjan,= 1/10 Tarpan

> > Brahman bhojan = 1/10 Marjan

> >

> > For example:

> >

> > Mantra Jaap = 1,00,000 (=> 1,000 Mala / Rounds of Rosary)

> > => Havan = 10 % of Mantra Jaap = 10 % of 1,00,000 = 10,000 (=>

> > 100 Mala)

> > => Tarpan = 10 % of Havan = 10 % of 10,000 = 1,000 (=> 10 Mala)

> > => Maarjan = 10 % of Tarpan = 10 % of 1,000 = 100 (=> 1 Mala)

> > => Brahman Bhojan = 10 % of 100 = 10

> >

> > -

> > -

> > -

> >

> > If one is not doing havan, tarpan, maarjan after Mantra Jaap then he

> > can take sankalp for Tarpan and do twice jap for tarpan, sanaklp and

> > twice jap for Maarjan, so the numbers it become

> >

> > Jap in lieu of Havan = 2 * 100 = 200 Mala

> > Jap in lieu of Tarpan = 2 * 10 = 20 Mala

> > Jap in lieu of Marjan = 2 * 1 = 2 Mala

> > Jap in lieu of Brahman = 1 mala (if less than 108, we do atleast one

> > 1 mala)

> >

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> >

> > 2) Regarding Samidha (wood) and Samagri for Ahuti

> >

> > (I'll again copy paste from my book but explain more this time)

> >

> > Samidha (Wood Sticks) for various planets

> >

> > 1) Sun = Aak Wood

> > 2) Moon = Palash Wood

> > 3) Mars = khair Wood

> > 4) Mercury = Apa-maarga Wood

> > 5) Jupiter = Peepal Wood

> > 6) Venus = Goolar Wood

> > 7) Saturn = Shami Wood

> > 8) Rahu = Druva

> > 9) Ketu = Kusha

> >

> > And samagri for each ahuti aading swaha

> >

> > Til(white seasame seed)= x (u decide this depending on ahutis

> > required)

> > Rice = x/2

> > Yava = x/4

> > Sugar = x/8

> > Gud (Jaggery) = x/8

> > Dahi(Curd) = x/8

> > Ghee(Clarified Butter) = x/16

> >

> > -

> > -

> > -

> >

> > Now specifically taking your example of Venus.

> >

> > Venus Jaap = 80,000

> >

> > => Number of Ahutis required saying " Om Draam Dreem Draum Sah Shukray

> > Namah Swaha " = 10 % of 80,00 = 8,000 (this means 80 rounds of rosary)

> >

> > But to be practical, i never put that many ahutis because it's very

> > expensive, although it's ideal thing to do but it's expensive.

> >

> > Like what i will do is, Make 1000 Ahutis, => 10 Mala. (mala = rosary

> > round), So i am left with 70 Mala, so i will do 140 more rounds in

> > lieu of ideal 70 more mala havan that was required.

> >

> > But be careful, you will have to announce this in the sankalp for

> > havan that you will give 1000 ahutis and then do double jap for

> > remaining ahutis (offerings).

> >

> > Or you can completely skip homam and directly do 80*2 = 160 rounds of

> > rosary by taking sankalp..

> >

> > But i usually prefer atleast some homa, because it mean what you are

> > offering to fire, breaks up into subtle form and goes directly to the

> > deity for whom you are doing the homam.

> >

> > -

> > -

> > -

> >

> > And further about the samagri for homam

> >

> > Lets say you have to do homam for 1,000 Ahutis.

> > Lets say that takes 1600 grams of ahuti (=> x = 1600gm)

> >

> > (very rough example, but i am using this number 1600 for sheer ease

> > of calculation)

> >

> > =>Til(white seasame seed)= 1600 gm

> > =>Rice = 800 gm

> > =>Yava = 400 gm

> > =>Sugar = 200 gm

> > =>Gud (Jaggery) = 200 gm

> > =>Dahi(Curd) = 200 gm

> > =>Ghee(Clarified Butter) = 100gm

> >

> > Total Weight of Misture = 3500 gm = 3.5 kg

> >

> > You have to offer the a mixture with this composition okay, " the

> > mixture " for ahuti.

> >

> > Remember, take the Til amound as the mean.

> >

> > And to be precise, if you want to be very scientific about it, then

> > calculate total amount of ahuti that you can put on a small teaspoon.

> > Multiply that by the number of ahutis you want, then you will get the

> > total weight of the mixture you need and then decide quantity of

> > specific ingredient accordingly.

> >

> > Oh and one thing, remember this composition of mixture is for Navgrah

> > Shanti, for homam of other purpose, samidha (wood) Ingredient of Ahut

> > and basically whole procedure is different. So if this is your first

> > homam, then remember this composition applies to Navgrah Shanti only.

> >

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> >

> > 3) Difference Between Planet Pacification and Strengthening. .. and

> > application of Homam if required.

> >

> > Well ofcourse there IS difference between Pacification and

> > strengthening (will explain in answer to your next question)

> >

> > About Homa, well from my learning and experience, its done after

> > certain jap and you decide for what purpose you are doing a Jaap.

> > That basically applies to any sort of Mantra Anushthan in general.

> > Homa is after jap.

> >

> > But for strengthening, jaap is not always required.

> > There are other methods for that like gemstones, yantras, prayogs of

> > the yantra, storas, kavachas etc.

> >

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> >

> > 4) Which is better, Planet Pacification or Strengthening

> >

> > Well this is an absolute basic question of astrology; if you don't

> > know the precise answer for this question then you are not in a

> > situation for remedies as such.

> >

> > Lets take example of any Healing Science, Doctor Job (as i am)

> >

> > You need to be master of 4 things help someone

> >

> > 1) Anatomy (Structure of Body)

> > 2) Physiology (Working of Structure)

> > 3) Pathology (how structure gets infected/diseases/ injured)

> > 4) Medicine (how to overcome infection, diseases, injury)

> >

> > Taking this in astrological sense, you should know

> >

> > 1) Precise placement of planets in different charts,

> > 2) Their working (exactly what +ve or -ve phal/result they are

> > yeilding),

> > 3) Which planets are causing suffering?

> > 4) Which remedies for those planets?

> >

> > Basically all astrological (and i mean classical astrological ones as

> > from purans) remedies work on

> >

> > a) Strengthening of Benefic Planet

> > b) Pacification of Malefic Planet

> >

> > Actually explaining this one point may as well mean explaining whole

> > of astrology to you, ha ha.... so i will wrap it short and say

> >

> > Yes, both these can be... should be applied together, but as you

> > know, medicine should only be given by an expert, wrong medicine

> > could aggravate the problem, so be careful.

> >

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> >

> > Now coming on to Anandas point...

> >

> > First, plz let me numerate various ways of Planet Pacification Grah

> > Shanti

> >

> > 1) Wearing Gemstones

> > Strengthening a benefic planet also protects from malefic ones.

> >

> > 2) Puja (Worship)

> > Simple worship of unfavorable planet.. shodashupchar, panchopchar. .

> > with their viniyog, shyan, path.. etc

> >

> > 3) Kavach Paath (wearing astral armor)

> > Tantrokt Kavach path of the favorable planets protects from malefic

> > effect of unfavorable ones.

> >

> > 4) Japa

> > This is like more advanced and rigorous form of Puja where you do

> > thousand of chants for pacifying malefic planet.

> >

> > 5) Donation

> > Daan of malefic planet is also one way of pacifying it

> >

> > 6) Vrat (Fasting)

> > Fasting on specific days of malefic planet, with sankalp and

> > systematic worship of malefic planet is way to pacify them.

> >

> > 7) Yantra

> > Getting a banefic planets Yantra from a Tantrik (common men cannot

> > make it, only initialized tantrik knows how) is also one way of

> > protection from malefic planet.

> >

> > 8) Tantrik Totka

> > This simple way of messing (yes practically interfering and messing)

> > with working of malefic planet by getting control on their kaark

> > Tatvas (causal elements)

> >

> > Like Kaark Tatva as Rasa (taste) for Mars is Sweet, so you donate

> > sweet naan on tuesday, this doesn't let a malefic mars play it game,

> > on contrary is reverses.

> >

> > Causal colours of mars is red, day for mars is Tuesday... colors for

> > Jupiter is yellow, day is Thursday... and so on.

> >

> > Causal taste of venus is sour, for saturn is salty.. and so on.

> >

> > These totaks are very simple, very quick to apply and still very

> > effective.

> >

> > 9) *** Tantrik Mantra Sadhna *** (Spiritual Practice)

> >

> > If the person suffering from malefic planet, opts to get diksha for a

> > Tantrik Mantra from a Sadguru and does Sadhna, or gets it done by

> > some tantrik, then also he can get his those wishes fulfilled which

> > were not being fulfilled because of malefic planets.

> >

> > Lets discuss one of the practical example which i took

> >

> > Lets say someone has Rahu (Dragons Head) and Saturn in 7th house on

> > Aries (Maish rashi) of their enemy Mars, their total enemy, and on

> > top of that the lord of 7th house, Mars falls in 8th house and is

> > totally dibilited on Taurus sign of Venus... plus Ketu is having full

> > negative aspect on Aries sign of Mars in 7th house

> >

> > In such a case, such a person's marital life and money situation life

> > will be totally disturbed, or let me say destroyed

> >

> > Now the severity of the situation is such, that even complete

> > application of the traditional planet pacification procedures, will

> > give only a little success.

> >

> > Come on, lets be serious and honest... as an astrologer i know

> > exactly " how much " of a difference which remedy can make in someone's

> > life and i know the limits of traditional astrological solutions.

> >

> > But if he opts for a Tantrik Sadhna, then he will be able to overcome

> > ill effect of malefic planet.

> >

> > Like in this case, if he manages to get succes in a Matangi

> > Mahavidya, no matter what his thousand past lives bad karmas may have

> > been... that lead to such a bad placement of planet in his chart...

> > his power of sadhna will overcome that karma and still give him

> > wonderful marital life and loads of wealth.

> >

> > 10) *** Rudraksh ***

> >

> > Ruraksh (scientifically known as Utrasum seeds) also actually come in

> > Tantrik Category. They are tears and jewels of lord Shiva.

> >

> > And well what can i say about power of lord shiva... whatever i say

> > will be less and sound more of an insult to him... but still i will

> > try,

> >

> > Ruraksh are not gemstone but they can be thousand times more powerful

> > than any gemstone, but that totally depends on the person wearing it.

> >

> > A gemstone is more of one time effort, you can do pran pratishtha and

> > wear it forever... if it gives say 10 units goodness, then it will

> > keep giving that till its life (although recharging them after 3-4

> > years if good way of cleansing any negativity they gain)

> >

> > But a ruraksh, needs more attention and care, and if its treated

> > properly, it can give you 1000 units of goodness, but still,

> > observing how common men treat them, they effectiveness is reduced to

> > same as gemstone or little more.

> >

> > One must know tantrik procedure associated for them and follow rules

> > of wearing them (like don't wear at night, especially not if you have

> > sex at night, no way!)

> >

> > Still for basic purpose, one can do sankar of ruraksh (initialize and

> > energies) and wear it.

> >

> > The number of facets of rudraksh is the most critical thing. Although

> > some people associate different number of facet to different planet,

> > but i have found out the number of facet corresponds to number of

> > houses in a birth chart

> >

> > Like in the above example, 7th house is badly inflicted, so he can

> > wear a 7 facet rudraksh for that.

> >

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> >

> > The last two remedies are actually " beyond " planet pacification. ..

> >

> > Infact Tantrik Sadhna can be called a cheat code to fate itself!

> >

> > Anand bhai, its true i agree, but the point is... extremely few

> > people are ready to take up that kind of task. Even to do sadhna some

> > character is required, a dedication to Guru is required, in reality

> > this is rare!

> >

> > Infact if someone is willing to go higher, i can tell him ways to

> > completely alter his birth char itself! Yes, its possible!

> >

> > Even without Tantrik Sadhna, but when i tell this to someone... they

> > think of me as fool. Because their minds are so closed with what they

> > know and believe right now...

> >

> > These techniques, even beyond tantra, that i am talking right now are

> > very rare and known to very few human beings on this planet. Only

> > about 4000 people out of 6 Billion.

> >

> > Think of it... doing a Maha Anushthan of 24,00,000 Gayatri month...

> > in just 6 hours!

> >

> > Sounds illogical right? When even one mantra takes 10 seconds, 3 -4

> > mala take one house... then how can someone chant 24 00 000 mantra

> > within 6 hours?

> >

> > Well that's one of the secrets of higher planes, and siddhashram is

> > also such place of secret high level sadhnas, the land of masters.

> >

> > And with these techniques, the phal/result you get from that, you can

> > gain that in just 3 hours!

> >

> > Anyhow, i will stop this extremely high level point here and come

> > back to more ground reality point of Mahavidya.

> >

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> >

> > Anand bhai, there is a saying

> >

> > " Raheeman dekh Badhein ko... lagu naa dijay daari...

> > Jahan Kaam aaye suyi... kaha karay tarwari! "

> >

> > (Never under estimate small after looking at big... the place where

> > you need need... what will you do with a sword!?)

> >

> > Same is true for various sadhnas, their levels.

> > Because peoples level should match a Sadhaks level!

> > Actually this is a big topic, i will try to wrap it short.

> >

> > -

> > -

> > -

> >

> > " " " Concept of True Isht and Sure Short Sadhna Siddhi " " "

> >

> > Success in sadhna largely depends on your aptitude for certain

> > deities Sadhna... if as an astrologer you know how to find Isht Deva

> > of a person out of 33 crore deities, then you would know what i am

> > saying.

> >

> > Usually people make a deity of their liking as their Isht Deva but

> > thats not wise... that's like a patient deciding which medicine he

> > should take. Right way is to consult a guru or good astrologer.

> >

> > A guru or good astrologer can find that out for you... and know this,

> > you may worship other deities for 20 years and still be waiting...

> > while you worship your Isht deva as told to you by your guru, then

> > you can gain astonishing success in 2 years itself.

> >

> > This finding of Isht Deva is directly related to Tattva Gyan. A guru

> > has enlightened vision, he can see through your soul and in an

> > instance decide which tattva in your physical and subtle body needs

> > to be corrected and which deity corresponding to that Tattva will

> > yield fastest result for you... while an astrologer can use his

> > knowledge and intellect as his this eye to guide someone on right

> > sadhna.

> >

> > Its like although wealth luxury (aishwarya dhan laabh) is Maha

> > Lakshmi's department.. . but in reality any other deity if worshiped

> > properly, can grant you all that. So sometimes worshiping your Isht

> > deva and asking for things not related to genric department of your

> > Isht deva, will still yield you faster results, sure shot results.

> >

> > Like you can say why worship kul deva when Shiva is the supreme....

> > but stil kul deva has is importance!

> >

> > People come to astrologers for problems in material life... you can

> > just tell them why run after pain pleasure and happiness of this

> > physical world... why not directly do Kundalini Sadhna and go beyond

> > even happiness to bliss...

> >

> > But do you think that is practical? Ofcourse not, hence every sadhna,

> > even grah shanti at its level has its prime importance.

> >

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> >

> > And now taking case of our Guruji...

> >

> > First thing, he wasn't an ordinary human being, even before being

> > born he was already a Siddha in his past life. This actually applies

> > to almost any spiritual master you may see anywhere in world, they

> > had gone beyond the point of no return, no fall back

> >

> > Like :

> > Jesus was already enlightened under Essenes group from master Mosses.

> > Same is true for Sai Baba, or Mahavira...

> >

> > Infact in Gautam Buddhas case, the legends have it written, the

> > moment he gained devine realization under that bodhi tree...

> >

> > All the gods and goddesses of heaven, even Brahma Vishnu Mahesha

> > came to his feet and said " Array bhagwan yeh kya kiya... aapne to wo

> > prapt kar liya jo aaj tak kisi ne prapt nahin kiya " (you have

> > attained what no one has attained till today in this kalpa)

> >

> > He totally deciphered the damn coding of the universe itself!

> >

> > In reality, our Guru had done Sadhnas for thousands of year before,

> > so you can imagine the purity of his mind and level of his

> > consciousness.

> >

> > Masters take a human birth for specific purposes. Although they are

> > masters but its rule of physical realm that they still have to again

> > do all the sadhnas, again rise kundli, but they are able to do this

> > because their consciousness is already at an high level and their

> > minds are pure.

> >

> > And actually this will also explain to you " why the thousands of

> > people taking dikshas for Mahavidya Sadhnas are not Siddhas "

> >

> > But this does not mean that we cannot succeed in them hence we should

> > not even think of them, its just that we have to move in different

> > ways, directly doing those sadhna is not one of those ways.

> >

> > One has to work on deeper purification, correcting of Tattvas in his

> > body and soul to be ready for all sadhna (guru mantra is base for

> > that purpose)

> >

> > There is a famous example, " How can a metal ring float in water? "

> > Answer " Well it can float if the ring is put around a light stick "

> > In this case, light stick is the master.

> >

> > Although he will not leave you there, a master's true aim is always

> > to make his disciple a master, so more training.

> >

> > -

> > -

> > -

> >

> > Getting back to use of classical astrological solutions

> >

> > Think about it... even Dashrath, father of Lord Rama, the king of

> > Aayodhya! He had to do pacification of Saturn,

> >

> > He could have asked the Raaj Guru Kashyap to do certain tantrik

> > sadhna but even his guru told him other way.

> >

> > On top of that, he had to get done a Putra Kaameshti Homam,

> >

> > Even kashyap, guru of Rama had to direct dashrath somewhere as

> > because that time only one rishi was expert of Atharveda Putra

> > Kaameshthi Yagya hence Dashratha had to beg with tears in front of

> > him, wash rishi's feet with his tears...

> >

> > And later, he actually had to ask Saturn to stop in his path so that

> > his sons may have good birth chart.

> >

> > So please, i hope you understand Astrology is no joke.

> >

> > Its a great tool for knowing the precise problem coming due to

> > results of past life karma and events.

> >

> > Infact even if you classify this as a tool, then saamudrik gyan and

> > jyotish is Sthool (Gross) while things like karnpishachni, vaartal

> > devi siddhi, Panchanguli Sadhna, Agyra Chakra Siddhi (complete

> > psychic sense) these are subtle sciences.

> >

> > While astrology can give you blue print of someons life, these subtle

> > sciences can give you fine details.

> >

> > STILL, Astrology has its own place and importance. Some places,

> > infact most places a Sthool (gross) but quick and easy to use sceince

> > is required.

> >

> > And being a true sadhak, you would know, that almost all tantrik

> > sadhna require certain muhrat. You cannot imagine sadhna success

> > without right muhrat.

> >

> > -

> > -

> > -

> > -

> >

> > And finally, the purpose of remedies

> >

> > Everything in universe has three levels

> >

> > 1) Physical --(Matter)

> > 2) Mental ----(Energy)

> > 3) Spiritual -(Consciousness)

> >

> > Finally, lord shiva, cause of the three causes, lord of Maha Maya

> > Shakti.

> >

> > More than 70% of problems in life arise due to a mental or spiritual

> > cause, infact let me say purely spiritual cause, and

> >

> > " " " A Spiritual level problem asks for a Spiritual level Solution! " " "

> >

> > Birth chart tell you your destiny... and your destiny is nothing but

> > what you carry from last lives, your mentality and karma account.

> >

> > And when it comes to using Spiritual Level Solution, Sadhna, it

> > basically deals with correcting the problems in ones destiny (result

> > of past karma and events).

> >

> > Astrology is a wonderful tool in quickly determining the severity of

> > a problem nd if you are very good astrologer, you can know cause of

> > it in past life.

> >

> > 1) A Mild problem due to destiny can be solved by moderate spiritual

> > practice (like sadhna which may include Tantrik Prayog demanding 5-6

> > hours a day from person)

> >

> > 2) A Moderate problem due to destiny can be solved by intense Sadhna

> > (this may be like an Anushthan that demands 12-14 hours a day)

> >

> > 3) A Severe problem due to destiny, cannot be solved by even expert

> > level sadhna which goes for 16+ hours a day, it can only be solved by

> > Gurus grace where Guru will have to use some of his spiritual power

> > to uplift a person from that misery.

> >

> > But mind you, no guru will readily do that, its not good. Even if you

> > have that much spiritual power, it's not wise to take this step.

> >

> > Most of suffering in life, no matter how unfair and extreme they look

> > to a person, are meant to teach them a lesson... and if you solve the

> > problem, then that person does not get suffering and deep down

> > doesn't change himself, you actually inhibit his growth.

> >

> > Although these days. as you can see on TV, it has become a market to

> > offer best spiritual solution to help people get of their suffering

> > due to fate! None of them is a true master; hence their results are

> > also minimal

> >

> > A true guru never does that... but if he can see doing that leads to

> > your spiritual growth, then he might do it.

> >

> > Mind you, spiritual growth does not mean material growth... Spiritual

> > growth means dissolution of mind, merging with god

> >

> > But still, he might help in material growth only if he sees that will

> > lead to spiritual growth. Like if a person is so frustrated about no

> > money situation in life that he is too busy making his and other

> > peoples life hell... not even thinking about spiritual growth, then

> > he might solve it so that atleast then he will look at spiritual

> > growth, but even then, first he will try to advise that person a

> > sadhna so he can do it himself,

> >

> > A master by himself has far more spiritual energy than even deities,

> > but his job is not to provide you material luxuries that trap you

> > more in this physical dimension... that job is left to devi/devtas

> > (deities)

> >

> > His job is to help you become a master, move to bliss. Take you to

> > Siddhashram, land of Masters. Deities reside only in third loka..

> > Swarga (heaven) but there are places universe far more superior to

> > even heaven. Master plane (loka) is the highest, closest to the

> > formless OM.

> >

> > One precaution thought, even if someone becomes a master of Tantra

> > for material gains by overcoming even destiny… he will be like a

> man

> > who learnt to master the horses of his chariot (ratha) but forgot

> > where he was supposed to go.

> >

> > So always remember that as aim, when you do " any " sadhna or even

> > advise someone else a Sadhna.

> >

> > Love, light and joy!

> > Peace and Abundance!

> >

> > Dr Himanshu

> >

> > Gurudevo Maheshwaro Namo Namah

> >

> > , Khatri Anand <khatrianand@ ...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Jai Gurudev,

> > >

> > > This is really interesting discussion guys !!

> > >

> > > I want to pull out you attention from numbers to something else

> > now.....

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Let's take some overview here:

> > >

> > > 1. People across the world are interested in sadhanas. Many

> > of them get Guru, a large portion of them are deciples of Gurudev

> > Nikhileshwarananda, and are our fellow Gurubhais. If you are member

> > of MTYV magazine, must have attended shivirs, seen videos of Gurudev.

> > Everywhere regarding success of sadhana, one thing which is always

> > repeated.... if you do not get success in one try, repeat it second

> > time, again failure, again repeat, continue till you get success.

> > > 2. There are probably few thousand people taking Mahavidya

> > Diksha every year. Generally for mahavidya 1.25 lacks of mantra japa

> > is prescribed. If done well, can be finished in just 21 days. Even

> > considering new entrants, finishing in 1..5 - 2 years is not

> > difficult. Do we see those many Mahavidya Siddhas around??

> > >

> > > What conclusions can you draw from this?

> > >

> > > If just chanting mantra can get me Mahavdya siddhi.... Graha Pida

> > is a small problem to tackle.

> > >

> > > Then why waste time in doing graha shanti for each graha?

> > >

> > > Say on the current discussion of Just one graha shanti costs me

> > 64000 - 80000 japa, why not do 1.25 lacks of Mahavidya japa, forget

> > of all the navagraha issues for the lifetime, and you can use that

> > Mahavidya power to do all the Shatakarma (Maran, Mohan, Vashikaran,

> > Ucchatan, Stambhan, Shantikaran) ? Mahavidya can give much more than

> > any graha can ever give.

> > >

> > > Where is the issue? We see people spending their whole life for

> > getting siddhi of just one Mahavidya... . How many times they would

> > have chanted the mantra?

> > >

> > > Our beloved Gurudev got all 10 Mahavidyas, and much more.....

> > what is it that he has ?...one thing is sure, its not just the

> > count....... ......... ...... how could he get success in all the

> > Tantra sadhanas he attempted?

> > >

> > > And not only success in one or two sadhana, he got many, and

> > mastered the whole Tantra field including all branches. He knows

> > everything about everything !!

> > >

> > > Even if we consider time to get siddhi, no other guru ever got any

> > siddhi as fast as Guruji got, and as much as he got. Thats why is the

> > the third chosen deciple of Param Gurudev Satchitanandji in past

> > 15000 years.

> > >

> > >

> > > ... I do not want to quote my comments.... let forum people discuss

> > this, and we will get back to the count issue after this discussion.

> > >

> > > Anand's Knowledge Series:

> > >

> > >

> > > http://groups. / group/guru- nikhil/

> > > Tantra Public chat room: http://xat.com/ ISSP

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > silver_rhine <buddhadevpc@ ...>

> > >

> > > Sunday, 22 February, 2009 12:11:53 AM

> > > Re: Planetc Pacification (Grah Shanti)

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Himanshu,

> > >

> > > You have raised a very pertinent question and am sure someone will

> > > soon answer you. After reading your post, few questions have arisen

> > > in my mind:

> > >

> > > 1) Regarding the ratio of the havan to jaap as 1:10, I would like

> > to

> > > ask you that if it is possible in every case. Because, according to

> > > the file uploaded here (at least for the Shukra Graha Pida Nivaran)

> > > case, it doesn't really distinguish between the number of japa and

> > > number of homam. In fact, if I were to understand correctly, the

> > > number of homam (for Kali yug as they say its 64,000... its a

> > > different thing that your number is different - 80,000) corresponds

> > > to the number of mantra jaap... Is that right, or am I mistaken?

> > >

> > > 2) When you say ahuti, and for the samagri you say

> > > " Til(white seasame seed)= x (u decide this depending on ahutis

> > > required) "

> > >

> > > Do you mean that if number of japa to be done is 64,000 or 80,000

> > > (whichever is the case), then number of tils should be 64,000 or

> > > 80,000 respectively or is it by weight? Because counting would

> > really

> > > be a mammoth task!!

> > >

> > > Also, do you have to MIX all of the listed samagri in the given

> > > ratios and then for each ahuti take a pinch of that and put it in

> > the

> > > fire and do it for 6400 or 8000 times (1/10 of japa)?

> > >

> > > 3) Is there a difference between 'pacification of planet'

> > > and 'strengthening of planet' even when it comes to homa? Or, is it

> > > that for homa both are valid at once?

> > >

> > > 4)What IS the difference between pacification and strengthening of

> > > planet? Which is more effective?

> > >

> > > I would really be very grateful if you could throw some light on

> > the

> > > above queries...

> > >

> > > Jai Gurudev!

> > >

> > > - Buddha

> > >

> > > , " scorpion_1112in "

> > > <scorpion_1112in@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hello everybody,

> > > >

> > > > This is my first post in this group so my sadar pranam to all

> > > > gurubhai and group members, and especially Khatri Anandji.

> > > >

> > > > I am already an astrologer so i like to add on to my knowledge

> > > > wherever possible, always a student of life.... so I just went

> > > > through the files section of the group as i was very much

> > > interested

> > > > in knowing the Grah Shanti (Planet Pacification) methods.

> > > >

> > > > There are two things i noticed though

> > > >

> > > > 1) The numver, of Jaap, its different.

> > > >

> > > > From usually what i learnt, the jaap for a grah is same in

> > thousand

> > > > as the number of years for which its mahadasha goes on.

> > > >

> > > > (And in kal yuga, it may have to be done 4 times <= this is only

> > > > because of lack of ability of people in kalyuga to remain pure,

> > > that

> > > > is totally pure during anushthan).

> > > >

> > > > This means

> > > >

> > > > 1) Sun = 6 years => 6,000 * 4 = 24,000

> > > > 2) Moon = 10 years => 10,000 * 4 = 40,000

> > > > 3) Mars = 7 years => 7,000 * 4 = 28,000

> > > > 4) Mercury = 17 years => 17,000 * 4 = 68,000

> > > > 5) Jupiter = 16 Years => 16,000 * 4 = 64,000

> > > > 6) Venus = 20 Years => 20,000 * 4 = 80,000

> > > > 7) Saturn = 19 Years => 19,000 * 4 = 76,000

> > > > 8) Rahu = 18 Years => 18,000 * 4 = 72,000

> > > > 9) Ketu = 7 Years => 7,000 * 4 = 28,000

> > > >

> > > > The mantras in that context are same as given in file section

> > > > Also the havan samidha (wood)is Same

> > > > And samagri for each ahuti aading swaha

> > > >

> > > > Til(white seasame seed)= x (u decide this depending on ahutis

> > > > required)

> > > > Rice = x/2

> > > > Yava = x/4

> > > > Sugar = x/8

> > > > Gud (Jaggery) = x/8

> > > > Dahi(Curd) = x/8

> > > > Ghee(Clarified Butter) = x/16

> > > >

> > > > And the number and procedureof the

> > > > havan = 1/10 Jaap

> > > > tarpan,= 1/10 Havan

> > > > marjan,= 1/10 Tarpan

> > > > bhrahman bhojan = 1/10 Marjan

> > > >

> > > > This everyone knows...

> > > >

> > > > So my first qustion is, From which, which Samhita or puran are

> > > these

> > > > Japa Quantity taken?

> > > >

> > > > Please, i dont contradict whats gives, but i need to know more in

> > > > depth, i respect other systems and wish to know more of this

> > system.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 2) Secondly about yantra..

> > > >

> > > > Well the shape and size of Yantra is same, except for

> > > >

> > > > 1) Absence of Beej Mantras on Yantra

> > > > 2) Prepration on in different type of metal for amulet (taabeez)

> > > >

> > > > And MOST importantly

> > > >

> > > > Here Yantras are given for pacification of planet, while i have

> > > > learnt them for strengthening of planets.

> > > >

> > > > Its like the same issues with gemstones...

> > > >

> > > > For example, Some people make you wear Gessonite (Gomedhak) to

> > get

> > > > better results from Rahu during Rahu Mahadasha while some people

> > > make

> > > > you stay miles away from it.... same for wearing Ble Sapphire

> > > (Neelam)

> > > > during Shani Mahadadha and so on...

> > > >

> > > > While other people make you stay strictly away from these stones

> > > when

> > > > rahu, saturn etc are being maleifc.

> > > >

> > > > Although from my experience over years, i found the second option

> > > to

> > > > be better, gemstones and " even its tantrik yantra) are mean to

> > > > stengthen a planet. If a person cannot afford quality yantra,

> > > atleast

> > > > he can wear yantra as ring in precribed metal and finnger OR he

> > can

> > > > make amulet (taabeez) out of it.

> > > >

> > > > There is only one little twist in the story though

> > > >

> > > > The Vidhi Vidhan of wearing and treating a gemstone or Yantra

> > > >

> > > > I learnt that some system have a vidhi vidhan which reverses the

> > > > procedure of rays absorbption in body... the same gemstone which

> > > was

> > > > increasing rays of certain planet in body... or same yantra which

> > > was

> > > > increasing nenergy of certain planet, can be used oppositely to

> > > > decrease the effect and energy.

> > > >

> > > > If this is the case with the yantras given in the file section, i

> > > > would like to know the asbolutely precise vidhan related to them.

> > > > This knowledge can be seriously of great use/help for all.

> > > >

> > > > Waiting for more light on these 2 topics

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Himanshu

> > > >

> > > > Gurudevo Maheshwaro Namo Namah!

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> >

> >

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> >

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Sadhak,

 

Jai Gurudev,

 

Sadar Pranaam,

 

Thanks for such a enlightening share...

 

With Regards,

 

Prabhat

 

--- On Sun, 22/3/09, scorpion_1112in <scorpion_1112in wrote:

scorpion_1112in <scorpion_1112in

Re: Planetc Pacification (Grah Shanti) for Kind Attn of

Dr. Himanshu

 

Sunday, 22 March, 2009, 11:41 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello sir...

 

 

 

I must say thanks for your humility in your mails???

 

 

 

Everybody, Read this (part of a mail from Buddha)

 

 

 

" if and when you do get the time to do the analysis, I wouldn't want you to

waste your time again writing me a long email... If it is ok with you, I can

call you on your phone or skype or gtalk whatever you may prefer so as to save

you from the trouble of putting down everything to text... "

 

 

 

See... this is the point... this is the problem... this is exactly why i almost

avoid talking on blogs or forums or groups... i dont want people following me.

 

 

 

I hardly get time out of my job, then education (learning new skills), then

practicing those skill, then household works.. and then in the remaining time i

answer such mails, that's why usually Sunday or maybe even Saturday is the day

when i even get some time to answer such mails... and even then, i am man who

believes in Quality or Quantity, it takes me time for each mail.

 

 

 

But you shout out on me as if i have committed a major fault on my part... when

in reality i deal with 10 other people like you simultaneously, and they are in

far more severe condition than you.

 

 

 

I think i have been kind enough... far to gentle in mails, but i will keep the

decency of not copying it here, rather i will just tell you to put forth all

that you sent to me in personal mail over here... i believe my other gurubhais

are far more talented to handle that sort of problem.

 

 

 

In short, you were asking me of a " Vashikaran " type thing... and everyone here

knows how serious issue that is and how much caution needs to be observed.

 

 

 

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-

 

-

 

 

 

But still you know what, i get sick of handling people at time... people want to

improve the conditions around them but they dont want to change themselves!

Their lower mindset which actually lead to these problems... and not just in

this life, in fact in many past lives!

 

 

 

People don't want to become student of Tantra… they don't want to learn the

pure essence of it… the absolute tattava gyan of a soul as well as universe…

but all they want is their wishes to be fulfilled through Tantra.

 

 

 

People want to get the " Practical " knowledge of Tantra… without understanding

the base theory of it… because even Tantrik core theory talks of Moksha as

ultimate aim and cultivating sattvikata and ways to move towards sattvikta even

if a person is trapped in Tamsikta… this to them is like needless prelude or

pravachan. Anyways, in every science its always theory first and then practical,

doing practical without going through theory is dangerous.

 

 

 

And one must remember… " Even more important than spreading of knowledge is the

prevention of misuse of knowledge " And this is totally applicable to field of

Tantra… because if one does not have inner purity… then tantra can and will

take him to lowest level of hell.

 

 

 

They want me to give quick fix formulas to get rid of their sufferings.. . so

that they can again indulge and be lost in pleasures of life... but not having

to learn any spirituality.

 

 

 

This is why, this is " exactly " why masters warn their disciples... " Never

exhaust all you spiritual energy in fulfillment of your material desires "

 

 

 

Tantra in itself was primarily meant for spiritual growth... but as time

progressed, masters saw material problems... physical level problems holding

back their disciples so tantras for the purpose of material growth were also

 

 

 

But if even Tantra is used too much for material desire only, then again sadhak

becomes slave of desires and trapped in maya... earlier your physical level

actions were their for desires, and later your spiritual level effort is their

for wishes... still being away from the silent god element within, hence staying

away from spiritual growth.

 

 

 

And this is why " Guru Diksha " is a must, as it can make sure you move towards

spiritual growth. (not just any other Sadhna Diksha)

 

 

 

In short, my point is, if a person is not wanting to learn the core spiritual

lessons of life... not wanting to get rid of lower mindset, not wanting to

increase his spiritual knowledge but just wants to remain old self and " get his

wish " through Tantra, then please find someone else.

 

 

 

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It is not my objective to write great blogs or books or messages to show off

knowledge... . its not my responsibility to spread knowledge, definitely not on

large scale. If Sometime later in life guruji tells me to do that, i may do

it... or else from myself, i shall not.

 

 

 

As a sadhak you must understand, spreading knowledge is good but lets leave the

teaching part to Gurudev himself... sure helping others is good, but why not

help them by directing them to our greater source. This way you can keep your

sadhna secret intact and still spread knowledge. It is only in rare case of

extreme emergency where one of us may suggest something from our side... and i

usually post something big when i feel wrong or corrupted knowledge is passed...

this can hurt name of tantra and the person practicing it, and please I don't

want that to happen, our gurudeva worked hard enough in his physical lifetime to

battle this situation.

 

 

 

Although its like this, a 10th class student can teach a 2nd class student (and

i am not even in 10th) but this is not the ideal situation... the best situation

is when a qualified teacher teaches a student... because a qualified teacher not

only has higher level of knowledge... more importantly he knows how to put it

correctly in students head.

 

 

 

A 10th class student may be a topper in his class... a brilliant student, but

that doesnt make him a good teacher. Teaching is a totally different skill...

and in spiritual world, its everything.

 

 

 

Please understand

 

 

 

Whatever i can teach you... my master can teach you a thousand times better! No

wait, thats an understatement. .. let me say million times better than me.

 

 

 

So which way do you want it... this pathetic slow way OR million times better

great way?

 

 

 

In my childhood i was virtually trained by my atheist father to hate spiritual

things and occult... call all this non scientific nonsense.

 

 

 

Hence when i first read about Sadhna in early teenage... i thought of it nothing

but a unscientific way of fooling people with religion as trap used by phony

religious heads calling themselves gurus.

 

 

 

Later i realized how sadhna is supposed to be technique for training mind and

intellect... but still felt these Gurus are selfish people trying to keep

knowledge to themselves making others slave by diksha and spiritual secrecy rule

(never tell you sadhna to anyone)

 

 

 

Still later, i realized what the spiritual world is... i had access to Tattva

gyan... various beings from Subtle Positive and Sutble Negative regions of

universe... and then i understood what exactly the word guru means (wait, i

should not say exactly)... he is no human being carrying extra ordinary

spiritual knowledge or magic techniques.. . he is that supreme soul... higher

than Gods themselves!

 

Thats when i realized every sadhna starts with guru... and my sadhnas started.

 

 

 

Still later, i realized sadhna doesnt just start with guru... it is actually

almost carried out by him! We think we do a great job by doing 5-6 hours (or

even 16 hours) of chanting? Well in reality he is also doing work at your

back... his diksha energy in you that is... without which you will never be

complete. Thats why i say Guru Mantra is base for success in sadhnas.

 

 

 

And now when i feel i can see through most sadhnas, i understand Sadhna doesn

only start with Guru... but it ends with Guru.

 

 

 

Think about it... the people of Siddhashram. .. each and everyone of them is

higher than any god or goddess you can imagine... but still they are engaged in

sadhnas... higher level of Sadhnas..

 

 

 

What will such a person do? One who has Asht Maha Siddhi, Nav Nidhi, Dus

Mahavidya almost as servants... and ofcourse all Gaun and shudra siddhis... on

who has mastered yoga and tantra... one who can produce and control anything

just by thought... what will he do? What kind of sadhna?

 

 

 

Well they do Guru Poojan. The absolute highest tattva in universe is Par Bhram

(Pure Unmanifested Consciousness) ... wait its no tattva, it the source of even

tattvas... source of even mind, intellect and ego.. source of even shaktis

triguna... and Guru is the only closest Saakshat form of it.

 

 

 

So from whom do you want to learn... me or him? It will be stupid egoistic and

almost sinful of me to do that...

 

 

 

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Still i will answer your questions to settle your curiosities

 

 

 

Q) About the higher sadhnas and doing 24 lakh mantra in 6 hour... well that is

possible only if you do it in " Pashyanti Vaani " . This is even more subtle form

of Manas Jap....

 

 

 

See if you move your lips... you physically speak out a word... then it takes

time... like Mrityunjaya Mantra... you can atmost do 3-4 Mala (Rosary Round) in

one hour...

 

 

 

Mind moves faster than tongue... mind moves faster than wind... mind moves

faster than even light

 

 

 

Yes, think of it... traveling from sun to earth... light takes 8 minutes and 18

seconds.. but your mind, if has activated 6th sense... it can know whats

happening on sun, and then whats happening on earth in less than a second... see

how outdated our modern gadgets are.

 

 

 

Thats why Mind is faster than even time... you can not just reach any part of

physical plane in one timeline... you can also access different parts of

metaphysical plane... that too in different timelines!

 

 

 

The problem is, man has started developing things outside of him, as a result of

which the quality of physical comforts has increased... but the quality of human

mind and soul has degraded because focus has shifted from spirit/god as form of

bliss to external world as source of happiness.

 

 

 

Anyhow, point was, mind is the fastest thing... it is higher tattva, even higher

than Panch Mahabhoot (5 Absolute Cosmic Elements), or Panch Tan-maatra. Mantra

is the tool for training mind... mantra is the tool for enhancing and directing

minds powers... and using a mind trained by mantra, you direct even higher

energies of universe (energies of gods and goddesses) in your favor.

 

 

 

A japa (chanting) on the mental plane is 1000 times moe effective than a japa on

physical plane... and on top of that, you dont just get more reward for each

japa... you can also chant more number of mantra in the same time of physical

plane. If orally you cant 1 mantra in 10 seconds... then in pashyanti you

multiply that by 1000. So you can imagine the efect... you do more chants and

each chant is more concentrated and effective.. hence result is 1000 * 1000

 

 

 

But using mind in such a manner is not possible for everybody, that takes great

training... we can hardly do proper japa in Vachik (oral) mode.... if you try

Manas, than you will find many other thoughts start clouding your mind...

chanting is totally outlined... and you end up fantasizing/ visualizing

something else... the quality of japa is pathetic.

 

 

 

So how can a not so advanced sadhak do that order of advanced sadhna?

 

 

 

To be honest... he cannot!

 

 

 

It takes not just years but actually lives of training to raise ones

consciousness to that level.

 

 

 

Now understand this:

 

 

 

Consciousness > Conscience > Control

 

 

 

The higher the consciousness (level of awareness), the higher is the link to

universal mind hence higher knowledge and conscience.. .

 

 

 

And higher the conscious conscience.. . higher the control... of even life

forces and mind. (note: i said conscious conscience, not blind conscience which

works as subconsciously acted out rules/habbits)

 

 

 

So main thing is about raising the level/frequency of consciousness. .. but

doing this at will, requires great training. And now focus, the word will is an

attribute of intellect... mind has the instincts and storage but intellect

(buddhi) is the governor... it decides which thought is to be handled how and

how it should be acted out or not. So intellect may train the mind... but what

will train the intellect?

 

 

 

There is only one way.. that is by awakening the real " you " within you. What we

call as " Aatma " (Spirit... not just soul) is a very subtle word.

 

 

 

Body changes, mind changes, intellects habbit change... but there is something

in you which never changes... which doesnt think or feel... which always keeps

watching silently... that unchanging self, that consciousness is Spirit (Aatma)

 

 

 

Infact spirit doesn't even talk... not even mentally... it is a mere

spectator... although people will tell you spirit can command mind and

intellect.. but from experience i can tell you that is a lie, Aatma doesnt even

talk... its mere awakening is like a fear to mind nd intellect which sets them

straight.

 

 

 

Aatma (Spirit) is not the karta (doer) or Bhokta (experiencing one)... Jivaatma

(Soul) is karta (doer) and bhokta (experiencing one)

 

 

 

Aatma = Spirit

 

Jivaatma = Spirit clouded by Triguna and... Ego + Intellect + Mind

 

 

 

The real process of awakening of Aatma starts when mind and intellect understand

they have to be removed or let me say loosened so that light of Aatma from

within can shine out... that dark cloud of Ego+Intellect+ Mind needs to be

removed.... its not that these three get destroyed, it is just that they direct

themselves to aatma within.

 

 

 

So in order to reach " that " level of consciousness, first step you have to

understand this sort of dissolution of mind and intellect... intellect has to

be convinced this is the best. Only then mental silence and true concentrated

effort starts building.

 

 

 

I am saying it just starts... doesnt happen completely, because although almost

everyone talks how great and important surrender is... may it be to god or

guru... but in reality no one completely surrenders! A total surrender is the

most difficult thing to do... infact one cannot do it, it just happens... doing

is by intellect or ego but surrender is even above them.

 

 

 

It happens when Satvikta increases... then the fear is not experienced by a

sattvik mind and intellect.

 

 

 

Now wait, at this point, mind you... there are souls in his univrse who have

total control of their mind... they can become thoughtless or do single minded,

total concentration Sadhnas... but they have not surrendered as they have not

learnt to lower their ego, rather expanded it... hence their intellect is also

Tamsik.

 

 

 

They will do and succeed in sadhnas... but for evil purpose (like rakshas you

read in Purana). By the power of their concentrated Sadhna they can make even

gods and godesses, even Tridev their slaves...

 

 

 

Like there is a Sidhashram of Positive saints... there are darker regions of

this universe (greater levels of hell/patal) where evil mantriks reside... and

believe it, their power is almost equal to saints of sidhashram. Like Daitya

Guru Shukracharya (Master of Demons)... in front of him even Deva Guru

Brihaspati (Master of Deities) or Manushya Guru Vishwamitra (Master of Humans)

may be outclassed.

 

 

 

(And yes, people ask if siddhashram saints are so great and powerful... what do

they do to help us... well they are busy stopping the evil mantrik, its only

because of their knowledge and selfless support that we even live a day... so

much goes in subtle realms which we may not realize in our whole lives as we are

busy indulged in our own little lives)

 

 

 

The higher evil mantrik train lower evil entities... and supply them with powers

to carry out evil work... and for sometime the lower evil entity enjoy... but

their form of enjoyment is tamsik, and it is eternal rule of universe that

tamsik happiness gives far more sadness in return. Hence they gain 1 unit of

happiness followed by 100 units of sadness... they are in vicious cycle.. to

again get 1 unit of Tamsik happiness, they do more sadhna... 1 unit happiness

and 100 more unit sorrows... they get trapped, and this doesnt change till ego

lowers and sattvikta grows.

 

 

 

So be careful, don't fall for that trap... or their trap as if you worship them,

they will quickly solve your problem by giving you negative energy but then make

you a slave and part of their group.

 

 

 

So sattvikta and lowering of ego is a must when you are on a spiritual path....

and even more so, dedication to a master, because he makes sure you dont fall in

that kind of trap. Still, dedication to a master also happens when atleast some

part of ego is diluted okay.

 

 

 

See i dont like it when people start treating even Guru as a deity to be

worshiped before every ritual... thats almost degrading him, insulting him...

and most people come running primarily because they are troubled by material

life problems due to their karma or stupid desires... not because they are

looking for spiritual growth, or moksh kind of thing.

 

 

 

So you should remember his place and his ultimate purpose... which is to make

you a master.

 

 

 

Anyhow, getting back to point of raising consciousness for higher sadhna... well

what i wrote above was related to this goal only as i told you of two major

obstacles... obstacles from within a Jivatma (soul) and obstacle of Evil

Mantrik's lure...

 

 

 

And now, getting back to even more ground level... for some xyz sadhak who jut

entered the field of sadhna and occult... one whos awareness level if low and

mind is quarreled within most of the time... one who is having hard time even

doing Mantra Anushthan in Vaachik (oral) mode

 

 

 

For him the only remedy... Only way a person can reach that level of

consciousness is by trance or hypnotism. But then, his intellect is dissolved...

he is not controlling the trance direction or depth, rather a therapist is.

 

 

 

Although hypnotism is a temporary calming of conscious mind and intellect, but

its still a great tool and a lot of work can be done through it... that too in

quick time.

 

 

 

Now consider a case where a person in present life is suffering from a disease

or relationship problem due to some bad karma or trauma of last life... (it can

be any last life.. 2 lives ago.. 10 lives ago.. r even 100 lives ago)

 

 

 

See like if you murdered someone in past life... and lets say it credited 100

units from your karma account... then in this life you will have to work hard to

overcome those 100 units... do good deeds to debit 100 units in your karma

account to atleast come to an even point... you may have face mental unrest or

other misfortune till you save 100 people...

 

 

 

And he make take 10 lives to do that! Plus, during these 10 lives he may end up

accuring more bad karma side by side for which he may have to live 10 more lives

just to balance his karma account! Hence it becomes a vicious circle.

 

 

 

See here saving people is an attempt on the physical level... and even the

suffering is meant to help spiritual growth so that person learns killing is

bad... and by repetition cements this rule in head.

 

 

 

As i always say, " A problem of a spiritual nature asks for a solution of

spiritual nature " . In this case you will be using a solution of a spiritual

nature.

 

 

 

A short cut will be Sadhna... instead of wasting his whole life or lives trying

to balance out karma account on physical level, he can do a mantra anushthan and

balance it out in few days (a month atmost if done properly).

 

 

 

Sadhna and its type will be decided by his guru, keeping in mind his karma

account and his soul nature... hence he will learn the required lesson (by

learnin i mean deeply learn so that he doesn't do it again in any life) plus he

will balance out karma account and PLUS he will get more debit in his karma

account.

 

 

 

But the fact is... for the man of today... even doing a sadhna and succeeding is

a big task! If he were to solve it purely by Mantrokt sadhna... that will be a

long cut. A sadhna is an attempt to balance out your karma account as doing

Sadhna in itself is a Punya (good deed).

 

 

 

A Tantrokt Sadhna is lightly easier as compared to Mantrokt one but Tantrokt

sadhna requires more caution and even more precise knowledge of articles to be

used. (this is very relative comparison though, if a souls basic nature is to do

Mantrok then he might find Tantrokt difficult, Mantrokt sadhna is for man of

will power)

 

 

 

And even shorter cut will be a Past Life Therapy... this will be in matter of

hours.

 

 

 

Although Sometimes even in Past life Therapy it happens that end result comes

out to be an answer from either some master or maybe even god (yes, i said god)

 

 

 

In past life therapy, you can directly cross the barriers of time and reach that

lifetime where spiritual root cause of problem originated and then solve it

their itself… like take apology their itself, yes its possible.

 

 

 

I have seen people crying for disastrous marital live… they say we have

kaalsarp yoga and Saturn in 7th house… we have done all astrological remedies

and prayer but still we are cursed..

 

 

 

And even that level of problems have been solved in 2-3 sessions.

 

 

 

And this is the highest level of science I was talking about, and its not my

responsibility to teach you okay… it took me years and hardwork to learn this.

At this point knowledge is very critical and I can take no chance whatsoever of

its misuse.

 

 

 

Still if you want to benefit from it, then go to a therapist.

 

 

 

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Q) About Isht Deva and faster siddhi

 

 

 

Yes i did say that and I totally stick to my words on this one, its true.

 

 

 

But even before you find Isht deva, you should find your Kuldeva... and even

before you find kuldeva, you should find your Gurudeva

 

 

 

That was clear in my last post... wasn't it?

 

 

 

As far as astrological way of finding Isht deva is concerned, well its a long

procedure which takes 1-2 hour to find out... so many Chakras (like Kurma

Chakra, Akdam Chakra... ) need to be consulted with respect to your birth

Nakshatra, hence the Akshar (alphabet) from that nakshatra.

 

 

 

That is a longgg procedure and i don't think its required here... still if you

want, then take appointment from some good astrologer.

 

 

 

But why even take appointment. .. when you have gurudev with you!

 

 

 

I say first you should consult the elders of your family and know your

kuldevta/kuldevi from them, and make kuldeva worship a must right after guru

poojan and ganesh poojan... and then you should take Diksha and consult Guruji.

 

 

 

When you talk to him, just tell you what want and what is the best way to

achieve it... that's it, leave rest to him, he will scan your subtle body and

mind in a minute and tell you which sadhna.

 

 

 

Infact he will not only tell you which deity to worship, but he will also tell

you how to worship that deity

 

 

 

For example:

 

 

 

Lets say one has to do Lakshmi Sadhna

 

 

 

Now every Sadhna can be done in three ways

 

 

 

1) Divya Bhaav => Sattvik Vritti/Nature Sadhak

 

2) Veer Bhaav => Rajasik Vritti/Nature Sadhak

 

3) Pashu Bhaav => Tamsik Vritti/Nature Sadhak

 

 

 

Shri Lakshmi has 4 vehicles

 

 

 

a) Garuda (Crane) = Sattvik

 

b) Hasti (Elephant) = Rajsik

 

c) Kamal (Lotus) = Rajsik

 

d) Ulluka (Owl) = Taamsik

 

 

 

If the ritual was Vedic... a dakshin maarga tantra, then you would choose the

Dhyan image of Lakshmi on Garuda. Then the offerings will also be sattvik.

 

 

 

If the ritual was purely tantrik... then you would choose her image on Hasti or

Kamal. Since common householder is usually between Saatva and Tama, hence the

Lotus one is the most common form we know.

 

 

 

If the ritual was Aghor type... deep in Vaam Marga side, then you choose her

image on Owl. Then the offerigs will also be Tamsik, maybe actual animal

sacrifice.

 

 

 

Really even same sadhna with same mantra can be of So many types..

 

 

 

Sabar Tantrokt

 

Sabar Mantrokt

 

Sabar Aghor

 

 

 

I am giving example of Sabar because usually they are considered to be lowest

class mantra... " Paishachik Mantras " ... lowest in the terms of stimulating

higher bodies. Thats why vedic mantras are called highest mantras since they are

more " meaning " oriented... hence they stimulate mind and intellect more... all

vedic mantra are " Swayam Siddha "

 

 

 

But still, for some person X, a sabar mantra sadhna may be best. And be rest

assured, physically mentally spiritually the effect will be the same.

 

 

 

So I hope how different types of sadhna in different moulds are suited for

different kinds of Sadhak. Really, there are as many paths to god as number of

souls on this planet… even slightest of difference in techniques can change a

lot, and let the master decide that.

 

 

 

Next time you accost any Spiritual Doctor… just keep in mind the points I

elaborated here… because I did this for every other person like you who may

come across this group for your purpose.

 

 

 

Light and Abundance!

 

Himanshu

 

 

 

Gurudevo Maheshwaro Namo Namah

 

 

 

, " silver_rhine " <buddhadevpc@ ...> wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

> Jai Gurudev!

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Dear Dr. Himanshu ji,

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Firstly, my deepest apologies for not being able to respond earlier. I

 

> was very busy and I wanted to have ample amount of time on my hands in

 

> order to reply to your message.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> I must say that this message of yours is one of those rare ones which

 

> needs to be saved for posterity. It contains a wealth of information

 

> especially for a newbie like me (when you said that me being ignorant

 

> about the difference between graha pacification and strengthening being

 

> a very basic question of astrology, it is true that I am absolutely new

 

> to this field and want to learn new things).

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Himanshu ji, the best part which I liked about your mail was when you

 

> said:

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> - " Tantric sadhana can be a cheat code to fate itself. "

 

> That is sooo inspiring and that is precisely the reason why I am here

 

> because I want to change my fate.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> - " In fact, if someone is willing to go higher, I could

 

> tell him ways to completely alter his birth chart. " At this point, I

 

> felt elated. Please tell me how I can do it.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Himanshu ji, you talked about doing a Gayatri chant of 24,00,000 times

 

> in 6 hours but just stopped short of saying " how " . I am really

 

> interested. HOW can it be done? Am surprised that no one else has asked

 

> you regarding this in so many days…

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> You also mentioned about finding the True Isht devta and that praying to

 

> the right Ishta can yield much faster results. I really don't know

 

> how to find my Ishta and am searching but without any avail… Can you

 

> help me on this since I understand you are a very good astrologer plus

 

> sadhak?

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Eagerly awaiting your kind and valuable reply once again.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Thanks so much for taking out precious time to share this wealth of

 

> information with all of us.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Warm Regards,

 

>

 

> Buddha

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> , " N.E. Subhramaniyam " <nes50@>

 

> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Thanks.An excellent and informative post.Thanks for sharing such

 

> wealth of information

 

> > regds

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> > scorpion_1112in scorpion_1112in@

 

> >

 

> > Monday, 23 February, 2009 4:23:15 PM

 

> > Re: Planetc Pacification (Grah Shanti)

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Hello everybody

 

> >

 

> > I see two posts as reply to my last post, and after reading them i

 

> > feel like saying and explaining a few things, today is my offday and

 

> > i have time so i will try to answer Buddha first and then Anand.

 

> >

 

> > First i am taking buddhas questions

 

> >

 

> > 1) Ratio of Japa Is to homa

 

> >

 

> > ( I am doing copy paste of something from my book, this will help)

 

> >

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> >

 

> > The Mantra and its number, of Jaap, it's different for different

 

> > planet.

 

> >

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> >

 

> > The Tantrik Mantras for Planet Pacification are (Most powerful and

 

> > effective)

 

> >

 

> > 1) Sun = " Om Hraam Hreem Hraum Sah Suryay Namah "

 

> > 2) Moon = " Om shraam Shreem Shraum Sah Chandra-masay Namah "

 

> > 3) Mars = " Om Kraam Kreem Kraum Sah Bhomaay Namah "

 

> > 4) Mercury = " Om Braam Breem Braum Sah Budhaay Namah "

 

> > 5) Jupiter = " Om Graam Greem Graum Sah Guruvay Namah "

 

> > 6) Venus = " Om Draam Dreem Draum Sah Shukraay Namah "

 

> > 7) Saturn = " Om Praam Preem Praum Sah Shan-vay Namah "

 

> > 8) Rahu = " Om Chhraam Chhreem Chhraum Sah Rahu-vay Namah "

 

> > 9) Ketu = " Om Ayeim Hreem Ketvay Namah "

 

> >

 

> > The Short Tantrik Mantra for Planets are (Medium range, mostly used

 

> > in Yantras and offerings)

 

> >

 

> > 1) Sun = " Om Ghrini Aadityaay Namah "

 

> > 2) Moon = " Om Som Somaay Namah Namah "

 

> > 3) Mars = " Om Ang Angaar-kaaray Namah "

 

> > 4) Mercury = " Om Boom Budhaay Namah "

 

> > 5) Jupiter = " Om Brim Brihaspat-yay Namah "

 

> > 6) Venus = " Om Shoom Shukray Namah "

 

> > 7) Saturn = " Om Sham Shanesh-charay Namah "

 

> > 8) Rahu = " Om Raam Rahu-vay Namah "

 

> > 9) Ketu = " Om Kaim Ketvay Namah "

 

> >

 

> > The jaap for a planet/grah is same in thousand as the number of years

 

> > for which its mahadasha goes on.

 

> >

 

> > (And in kal yuga, it may have to be done 4 times <= this is only

 

> > because of lack of ability of people in kalyuga to remain pure, that

 

> > is totally pure during anushthan).

 

> >

 

> > This means

 

> >

 

> > 1) Sun = 6 years => 6,000 * 4 = 24,000

 

> > 2) Moon = 10 years => 10,000 * 4 = 40,000

 

> > 3) Mars = 7 years => 7,000 * 4 = 28,000

 

> > 4) Mercury = 17 years => 17,000 * 4 = 68,000

 

> > 5) Jupiter = 16 Years => 16,000 * 4 = 64,000

 

> > 6) Venus = 20 Years => 20,000 * 4 = 80,000

 

> > 7) Saturn = 19 Years => 19,000 * 4 = 76,000

 

> > 8) Rahu = 18 Years => 18,000 * 4 = 72,000

 

> > 9) Ketu = 7 Years => 7,000 * 4 = 28,000

 

> >

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> >

 

> > Procedure of Following Jaap, Havan, Tarpan, Maarjan, Brahman Bhojan

 

> >

 

> > The number and procedure of the

 

> > Havan = 1/10 Jaap

 

> > Tarpan,= 1/10 Havan

 

> > Marjan,= 1/10 Tarpan

 

> > Brahman bhojan = 1/10 Marjan

 

> >

 

> > For example:

 

> >

 

> > Mantra Jaap = 1,00,000 (=> 1,000 Mala / Rounds of Rosary)

 

> > => Havan = 10 % of Mantra Jaap = 10 % of 1,00,000 = 10,000 (=>

 

> > 100 Mala)

 

> > => Tarpan = 10 % of Havan = 10 % of 10,000 = 1,000 (=> 10 Mala)

 

> > => Maarjan = 10 % of Tarpan = 10 % of 1,000 = 100 (=> 1 Mala)

 

> > => Brahman Bhojan = 10 % of 100 = 10

 

> >

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> >

 

> > If one is not doing havan, tarpan, maarjan after Mantra Jaap then he

 

> > can take sankalp for Tarpan and do twice jap for tarpan, sanaklp and

 

> > twice jap for Maarjan, so the numbers it become

 

> >

 

> > Jap in lieu of Havan = 2 * 100 = 200 Mala

 

> > Jap in lieu of Tarpan = 2 * 10 = 20 Mala

 

> > Jap in lieu of Marjan = 2 * 1 = 2 Mala

 

> > Jap in lieu of Brahman = 1 mala (if less than 108, we do atleast one

 

> > 1 mala)

 

> >

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> >

 

> > 2) Regarding Samidha (wood) and Samagri for Ahuti

 

> >

 

> > (I'll again copy paste from my book but explain more this time)

 

> >

 

> > Samidha (Wood Sticks) for various planets

 

> >

 

> > 1) Sun = Aak Wood

 

> > 2) Moon = Palash Wood

 

> > 3) Mars = khair Wood

 

> > 4) Mercury = Apa-maarga Wood

 

> > 5) Jupiter = Peepal Wood

 

> > 6) Venus = Goolar Wood

 

> > 7) Saturn = Shami Wood

 

> > 8) Rahu = Druva

 

> > 9) Ketu = Kusha

 

> >

 

> > And samagri for each ahuti aading swaha

 

> >

 

> > Til(white seasame seed)= x (u decide this depending on ahutis

 

> > required)

 

> > Rice = x/2

 

> > Yava = x/4

 

> > Sugar = x/8

 

> > Gud (Jaggery) = x/8

 

> > Dahi(Curd) = x/8

 

> > Ghee(Clarified Butter) = x/16

 

> >

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> >

 

> > Now specifically taking your example of Venus.

 

> >

 

> > Venus Jaap = 80,000

 

> >

 

> > => Number of Ahutis required saying " Om Draam Dreem Draum Sah Shukray

 

> > Namah Swaha " = 10 % of 80,00 = 8,000 (this means 80 rounds of rosary)

 

> >

 

> > But to be practical, i never put that many ahutis because it's very

 

> > expensive, although it's ideal thing to do but it's expensive.

 

> >

 

> > Like what i will do is, Make 1000 Ahutis, => 10 Mala. (mala = rosary

 

> > round), So i am left with 70 Mala, so i will do 140 more rounds in

 

> > lieu of ideal 70 more mala havan that was required.

 

> >

 

> > But be careful, you will have to announce this in the sankalp for

 

> > havan that you will give 1000 ahutis and then do double jap for

 

> > remaining ahutis (offerings).

 

> >

 

> > Or you can completely skip homam and directly do 80*2 = 160 rounds of

 

> > rosary by taking sankalp..

 

> >

 

> > But i usually prefer atleast some homa, because it mean what you are

 

> > offering to fire, breaks up into subtle form and goes directly to the

 

> > deity for whom you are doing the homam.

 

> >

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> >

 

> > And further about the samagri for homam

 

> >

 

> > Lets say you have to do homam for 1,000 Ahutis.

 

> > Lets say that takes 1600 grams of ahuti (=> x = 1600gm)

 

> >

 

> > (very rough example, but i am using this number 1600 for sheer ease

 

> > of calculation)

 

> >

 

> > =>Til(white seasame seed)= 1600 gm

 

> > =>Rice = 800 gm

 

> > =>Yava = 400 gm

 

> > =>Sugar = 200 gm

 

> > =>Gud (Jaggery) = 200 gm

 

> > =>Dahi(Curd) = 200 gm

 

> > =>Ghee(Clarified Butter) = 100gm

 

> >

 

> > Total Weight of Misture = 3500 gm = 3.5 kg

 

> >

 

> > You have to offer the a mixture with this composition okay, " the

 

> > mixture " for ahuti.

 

> >

 

> > Remember, take the Til amound as the mean.

 

> >

 

> > And to be precise, if you want to be very scientific about it, then

 

> > calculate total amount of ahuti that you can put on a small teaspoon.

 

> > Multiply that by the number of ahutis you want, then you will get the

 

> > total weight of the mixture you need and then decide quantity of

 

> > specific ingredient accordingly.

 

> >

 

> > Oh and one thing, remember this composition of mixture is for Navgrah

 

> > Shanti, for homam of other purpose, samidha (wood) Ingredient of Ahut

 

> > and basically whole procedure is different. So if this is your first

 

> > homam, then remember this composition applies to Navgrah Shanti only.

 

> >

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> >

 

> > 3) Difference Between Planet Pacification and Strengthening. .. and

 

> > application of Homam if required.

 

> >

 

> > Well ofcourse there IS difference between Pacification and

 

> > strengthening (will explain in answer to your next question)

 

> >

 

> > About Homa, well from my learning and experience, its done after

 

> > certain jap and you decide for what purpose you are doing a Jaap.

 

> > That basically applies to any sort of Mantra Anushthan in general.

 

> > Homa is after jap.

 

> >

 

> > But for strengthening, jaap is not always required.

 

> > There are other methods for that like gemstones, yantras, prayogs of

 

> > the yantra, storas, kavachas etc.

 

> >

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> >

 

> > 4) Which is better, Planet Pacification or Strengthening

 

> >

 

> > Well this is an absolute basic question of astrology; if you don't

 

> > know the precise answer for this question then you are not in a

 

> > situation for remedies as such.

 

> >

 

> > Lets take example of any Healing Science, Doctor Job (as i am)

 

> >

 

> > You need to be master of 4 things help someone

 

> >

 

> > 1) Anatomy (Structure of Body)

 

> > 2) Physiology (Working of Structure)

 

> > 3) Pathology (how structure gets infected/diseases/ injured)

 

> > 4) Medicine (how to overcome infection, diseases, injury)

 

> >

 

> > Taking this in astrological sense, you should know

 

> >

 

> > 1) Precise placement of planets in different charts,

 

> > 2) Their working (exactly what +ve or -ve phal/result they are

 

> > yeilding),

 

> > 3) Which planets are causing suffering?

 

> > 4) Which remedies for those planets?

 

> >

 

> > Basically all astrological (and i mean classical astrological ones as

 

> > from purans) remedies work on

 

> >

 

> > a) Strengthening of Benefic Planet

 

> > b) Pacification of Malefic Planet

 

> >

 

> > Actually explaining this one point may as well mean explaining whole

 

> > of astrology to you, ha ha.... so i will wrap it short and say

 

> >

 

> > Yes, both these can be... should be applied together, but as you

 

> > know, medicine should only be given by an expert, wrong medicine

 

> > could aggravate the problem, so be careful.

 

> >

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> >

 

> > Now coming on to Anandas point...

 

> >

 

> > First, plz let me numerate various ways of Planet Pacification Grah

 

> > Shanti

 

> >

 

> > 1) Wearing Gemstones

 

> > Strengthening a benefic planet also protects from malefic ones.

 

> >

 

> > 2) Puja (Worship)

 

> > Simple worship of unfavorable planet.. shodashupchar, panchopchar. .

 

> > with their viniyog, shyan, path.. etc

 

> >

 

> > 3) Kavach Paath (wearing astral armor)

 

> > Tantrokt Kavach path of the favorable planets protects from malefic

 

> > effect of unfavorable ones.

 

> >

 

> > 4) Japa

 

> > This is like more advanced and rigorous form of Puja where you do

 

> > thousand of chants for pacifying malefic planet.

 

> >

 

> > 5) Donation

 

> > Daan of malefic planet is also one way of pacifying it

 

> >

 

> > 6) Vrat (Fasting)

 

> > Fasting on specific days of malefic planet, with sankalp and

 

> > systematic worship of malefic planet is way to pacify them.

 

> >

 

> > 7) Yantra

 

> > Getting a banefic planets Yantra from a Tantrik (common men cannot

 

> > make it, only initialized tantrik knows how) is also one way of

 

> > protection from malefic planet.

 

> >

 

> > 8) Tantrik Totka

 

> > This simple way of messing (yes practically interfering and messing)

 

> > with working of malefic planet by getting control on their kaark

 

> > Tatvas (causal elements)

 

> >

 

> > Like Kaark Tatva as Rasa (taste) for Mars is Sweet, so you donate

 

> > sweet naan on tuesday, this doesn't let a malefic mars play it game,

 

> > on contrary is reverses.

 

> >

 

> > Causal colours of mars is red, day for mars is Tuesday... colors for

 

> > Jupiter is yellow, day is Thursday... and so on.

 

> >

 

> > Causal taste of venus is sour, for saturn is salty.. and so on.

 

> >

 

> > These totaks are very simple, very quick to apply and still very

 

> > effective.

 

> >

 

> > 9) *** Tantrik Mantra Sadhna *** (Spiritual Practice)

 

> >

 

> > If the person suffering from malefic planet, opts to get diksha for a

 

> > Tantrik Mantra from a Sadguru and does Sadhna, or gets it done by

 

> > some tantrik, then also he can get his those wishes fulfilled which

 

> > were not being fulfilled because of malefic planets.

 

> >

 

> > Lets discuss one of the practical example which i took

 

> >

 

> > Lets say someone has Rahu (Dragons Head) and Saturn in 7th house on

 

> > Aries (Maish rashi) of their enemy Mars, their total enemy, and on

 

> > top of that the lord of 7th house, Mars falls in 8th house and is

 

> > totally dibilited on Taurus sign of Venus... plus Ketu is having full

 

> > negative aspect on Aries sign of Mars in 7th house

 

> >

 

> > In such a case, such a person's marital life and money situation life

 

> > will be totally disturbed, or let me say destroyed

 

> >

 

> > Now the severity of the situation is such, that even complete

 

> > application of the traditional planet pacification procedures, will

 

> > give only a little success.

 

> >

 

> > Come on, lets be serious and honest... as an astrologer i know

 

> > exactly " how much " of a difference which remedy can make in someone's

 

> > life and i know the limits of traditional astrological solutions.

 

> >

 

> > But if he opts for a Tantrik Sadhna, then he will be able to overcome

 

> > ill effect of malefic planet.

 

> >

 

> > Like in this case, if he manages to get succes in a Matangi

 

> > Mahavidya, no matter what his thousand past lives bad karmas may have

 

> > been... that lead to such a bad placement of planet in his chart...

 

> > his power of sadhna will overcome that karma and still give him

 

> > wonderful marital life and loads of wealth.

 

> >

 

> > 10) *** Rudraksh ***

 

> >

 

> > Ruraksh (scientifically known as Utrasum seeds) also actually come in

 

> > Tantrik Category. They are tears and jewels of lord Shiva.

 

> >

 

> > And well what can i say about power of lord shiva... whatever i say

 

> > will be less and sound more of an insult to him... but still i will

 

> > try,

 

> >

 

> > Ruraksh are not gemstone but they can be thousand times more powerful

 

> > than any gemstone, but that totally depends on the person wearing it.

 

> >

 

> > A gemstone is more of one time effort, you can do pran pratishtha and

 

> > wear it forever... if it gives say 10 units goodness, then it will

 

> > keep giving that till its life (although recharging them after 3-4

 

> > years if good way of cleansing any negativity they gain)

 

> >

 

> > But a ruraksh, needs more attention and care, and if its treated

 

> > properly, it can give you 1000 units of goodness, but still,

 

> > observing how common men treat them, they effectiveness is reduced to

 

> > same as gemstone or little more.

 

> >

 

> > One must know tantrik procedure associated for them and follow rules

 

> > of wearing them (like don't wear at night, especially not if you have

 

> > sex at night, no way!)

 

> >

 

> > Still for basic purpose, one can do sankar of ruraksh (initialize and

 

> > energies) and wear it.

 

> >

 

> > The number of facets of rudraksh is the most critical thing. Although

 

> > some people associate different number of facet to different planet,

 

> > but i have found out the number of facet corresponds to number of

 

> > houses in a birth chart

 

> >

 

> > Like in the above example, 7th house is badly inflicted, so he can

 

> > wear a 7 facet rudraksh for that.

 

> >

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> >

 

> > The last two remedies are actually " beyond " planet pacification. ..

 

> >

 

> > Infact Tantrik Sadhna can be called a cheat code to fate itself!

 

> >

 

> > Anand bhai, its true i agree, but the point is... extremely few

 

> > people are ready to take up that kind of task. Even to do sadhna some

 

> > character is required, a dedication to Guru is required, in reality

 

> > this is rare!

 

> >

 

> > Infact if someone is willing to go higher, i can tell him ways to

 

> > completely alter his birth char itself! Yes, its possible!

 

> >

 

> > Even without Tantrik Sadhna, but when i tell this to someone... they

 

> > think of me as fool. Because their minds are so closed with what they

 

> > know and believe right now...

 

> >

 

> > These techniques, even beyond tantra, that i am talking right now are

 

> > very rare and known to very few human beings on this planet. Only

 

> > about 4000 people out of 6 Billion.

 

> >

 

> > Think of it... doing a Maha Anushthan of 24,00,000 Gayatri month...

 

> > in just 6 hours!

 

> >

 

> > Sounds illogical right? When even one mantra takes 10 seconds, 3 -4

 

> > mala take one house... then how can someone chant 24 00 000 mantra

 

> > within 6 hours?

 

> >

 

> > Well that's one of the secrets of higher planes, and siddhashram is

 

> > also such place of secret high level sadhnas, the land of masters.

 

> >

 

> > And with these techniques, the phal/result you get from that, you can

 

> > gain that in just 3 hours!

 

> >

 

> > Anyhow, i will stop this extremely high level point here and come

 

> > back to more ground reality point of Mahavidya.

 

> >

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> >

 

> > Anand bhai, there is a saying

 

> >

 

> > " Raheeman dekh Badhein ko... lagu naa dijay daari...

 

> > Jahan Kaam aaye suyi... kaha karay tarwari! "

 

> >

 

> > (Never under estimate small after looking at big... the place where

 

> > you need need... what will you do with a sword!?)

 

> >

 

> > Same is true for various sadhnas, their levels.

 

> > Because peoples level should match a Sadhaks level!

 

> > Actually this is a big topic, i will try to wrap it short.

 

> >

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> >

 

> > " " " Concept of True Isht and Sure Short Sadhna Siddhi " " "

 

> >

 

> > Success in sadhna largely depends on your aptitude for certain

 

> > deities Sadhna... if as an astrologer you know how to find Isht Deva

 

> > of a person out of 33 crore deities, then you would know what i am

 

> > saying.

 

> >

 

> > Usually people make a deity of their liking as their Isht Deva but

 

> > thats not wise... that's like a patient deciding which medicine he

 

> > should take. Right way is to consult a guru or good astrologer.

 

> >

 

> > A guru or good astrologer can find that out for you... and know this,

 

> > you may worship other deities for 20 years and still be waiting...

 

> > while you worship your Isht deva as told to you by your guru, then

 

> > you can gain astonishing success in 2 years itself.

 

> >

 

> > This finding of Isht Deva is directly related to Tattva Gyan. A guru

 

> > has enlightened vision, he can see through your soul and in an

 

> > instance decide which tattva in your physical and subtle body needs

 

> > to be corrected and which deity corresponding to that Tattva will

 

> > yield fastest result for you... while an astrologer can use his

 

> > knowledge and intellect as his this eye to guide someone on right

 

> > sadhna.

 

> >

 

> > Its like although wealth luxury (aishwarya dhan laabh) is Maha

 

> > Lakshmi's department.. . but in reality any other deity if worshiped

 

> > properly, can grant you all that. So sometimes worshiping your Isht

 

> > deva and asking for things not related to genric department of your

 

> > Isht deva, will still yield you faster results, sure shot results.

 

> >

 

> > Like you can say why worship kul deva when Shiva is the supreme....

 

> > but stil kul deva has is importance!

 

> >

 

> > People come to astrologers for problems in material life... you can

 

> > just tell them why run after pain pleasure and happiness of this

 

> > physical world... why not directly do Kundalini Sadhna and go beyond

 

> > even happiness to bliss...

 

> >

 

> > But do you think that is practical? Ofcourse not, hence every sadhna,

 

> > even grah shanti at its level has its prime importance.

 

> >

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> >

 

> > And now taking case of our Guruji...

 

> >

 

> > First thing, he wasn't an ordinary human being, even before being

 

> > born he was already a Siddha in his past life. This actually applies

 

> > to almost any spiritual master you may see anywhere in world, they

 

> > had gone beyond the point of no return, no fall back

 

> >

 

> > Like :

 

> > Jesus was already enlightened under Essenes group from master Mosses.

 

> > Same is true for Sai Baba, or Mahavira...

 

> >

 

> > Infact in Gautam Buddhas case, the legends have it written, the

 

> > moment he gained devine realization under that bodhi tree...

 

> >

 

> > All the gods and goddesses of heaven, even Brahma Vishnu Mahesha

 

> > came to his feet and said " Array bhagwan yeh kya kiya... aapne to wo

 

> > prapt kar liya jo aaj tak kisi ne prapt nahin kiya " (you have

 

> > attained what no one has attained till today in this kalpa)

 

> >

 

> > He totally deciphered the damn coding of the universe itself!

 

> >

 

> > In reality, our Guru had done Sadhnas for thousands of year before,

 

> > so you can imagine the purity of his mind and level of his

 

> > consciousness.

 

> >

 

> > Masters take a human birth for specific purposes. Although they are

 

> > masters but its rule of physical realm that they still have to again

 

> > do all the sadhnas, again rise kundli, but they are able to do this

 

> > because their consciousness is already at an high level and their

 

> > minds are pure.

 

> >

 

> > And actually this will also explain to you " why the thousands of

 

> > people taking dikshas for Mahavidya Sadhnas are not Siddhas "

 

> >

 

> > But this does not mean that we cannot succeed in them hence we should

 

> > not even think of them, its just that we have to move in different

 

> > ways, directly doing those sadhna is not one of those ways.

 

> >

 

> > One has to work on deeper purification, correcting of Tattvas in his

 

> > body and soul to be ready for all sadhna (guru mantra is base for

 

> > that purpose)

 

> >

 

> > There is a famous example, " How can a metal ring float in water? "

 

> > Answer " Well it can float if the ring is put around a light stick "

 

> > In this case, light stick is the master.

 

> >

 

> > Although he will not leave you there, a master's true aim is always

 

> > to make his disciple a master, so more training.

 

> >

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> >

 

> > Getting back to use of classical astrological solutions

 

> >

 

> > Think about it... even Dashrath, father of Lord Rama, the king of

 

> > Aayodhya! He had to do pacification of Saturn,

 

> >

 

> > He could have asked the Raaj Guru Kashyap to do certain tantrik

 

> > sadhna but even his guru told him other way.

 

> >

 

> > On top of that, he had to get done a Putra Kaameshti Homam,

 

> >

 

> > Even kashyap, guru of Rama had to direct dashrath somewhere as

 

> > because that time only one rishi was expert of Atharveda Putra

 

> > Kaameshthi Yagya hence Dashratha had to beg with tears in front of

 

> > him, wash rishi's feet with his tears...

 

> >

 

> > And later, he actually had to ask Saturn to stop in his path so that

 

> > his sons may have good birth chart.

 

> >

 

> > So please, i hope you understand Astrology is no joke.

 

> >

 

> > Its a great tool for knowing the precise problem coming due to

 

> > results of past life karma and events.

 

> >

 

> > Infact even if you classify this as a tool, then saamudrik gyan and

 

> > jyotish is Sthool (Gross) while things like karnpishachni, vaartal

 

> > devi siddhi, Panchanguli Sadhna, Agyra Chakra Siddhi (complete

 

> > psychic sense) these are subtle sciences.

 

> >

 

> > While astrology can give you blue print of someons life, these subtle

 

> > sciences can give you fine details.

 

> >

 

> > STILL, Astrology has its own place and importance. Some places,

 

> > infact most places a Sthool (gross) but quick and easy to use sceince

 

> > is required.

 

> >

 

> > And being a true sadhak, you would know, that almost all tantrik

 

> > sadhna require certain muhrat. You cannot imagine sadhna success

 

> > without right muhrat.

 

> >

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> > -

 

> >

 

> > And finally, the purpose of remedies

 

> >

 

> > Everything in universe has three levels

 

> >

 

> > 1) Physical --(Matter)

 

> > 2) Mental ----(Energy)

 

> > 3) Spiritual -(Consciousness)

 

> >

 

> > Finally, lord shiva, cause of the three causes, lord of Maha Maya

 

> > Shakti.

 

> >

 

> > More than 70% of problems in life arise due to a mental or spiritual

 

> > cause, infact let me say purely spiritual cause, and

 

> >

 

> > " " " A Spiritual level problem asks for a Spiritual level Solution! " " "

 

> >

 

> > Birth chart tell you your destiny... and your destiny is nothing but

 

> > what you carry from last lives, your mentality and karma account.

 

> >

 

> > And when it comes to using Spiritual Level Solution, Sadhna, it

 

> > basically deals with correcting the problems in ones destiny (result

 

> > of past karma and events).

 

> >

 

> > Astrology is a wonderful tool in quickly determining the severity of

 

> > a problem nd if you are very good astrologer, you can know cause of

 

> > it in past life.

 

> >

 

> > 1) A Mild problem due to destiny can be solved by moderate spiritual

 

> > practice (like sadhna which may include Tantrik Prayog demanding 5-6

 

> > hours a day from person)

 

> >

 

> > 2) A Moderate problem due to destiny can be solved by intense Sadhna

 

> > (this may be like an Anushthan that demands 12-14 hours a day)

 

> >

 

> > 3) A Severe problem due to destiny, cannot be solved by even expert

 

> > level sadhna which goes for 16+ hours a day, it can only be solved by

 

> > Gurus grace where Guru will have to use some of his spiritual power

 

> > to uplift a person from that misery.

 

> >

 

> > But mind you, no guru will readily do that, its not good. Even if you

 

> > have that much spiritual power, it's not wise to take this step.

 

> >

 

> > Most of suffering in life, no matter how unfair and extreme they look

 

> > to a person, are meant to teach them a lesson... and if you solve the

 

> > problem, then that person does not get suffering and deep down

 

> > doesn't change himself, you actually inhibit his growth.

 

> >

 

> > Although these days. as you can see on TV, it has become a market to

 

> > offer best spiritual solution to help people get of their suffering

 

> > due to fate! None of them is a true master; hence their results are

 

> > also minimal

 

> >

 

> > A true guru never does that... but if he can see doing that leads to

 

> > your spiritual growth, then he might do it.

 

> >

 

> > Mind you, spiritual growth does not mean material growth... Spiritual

 

> > growth means dissolution of mind, merging with god

 

> >

 

> > But still, he might help in material growth only if he sees that will

 

> > lead to spiritual growth. Like if a person is so frustrated about no

 

> > money situation in life that he is too busy making his and other

 

> > peoples life hell... not even thinking about spiritual growth, then

 

> > he might solve it so that atleast then he will look at spiritual

 

> > growth, but even then, first he will try to advise that person a

 

> > sadhna so he can do it himself,

 

> >

 

> > A master by himself has far more spiritual energy than even deities,

 

> > but his job is not to provide you material luxuries that trap you

 

> > more in this physical dimension... that job is left to devi/devtas

 

> > (deities)

 

> >

 

> > His job is to help you become a master, move to bliss. Take you to

 

> > Siddhashram, land of Masters. Deities reside only in third loka..

 

> > Swarga (heaven) but there are places universe far more superior to

 

> > even heaven. Master plane (loka) is the highest, closest to the

 

> > formless OM.

 

> >

 

> > One precaution thought, even if someone becomes a master of Tantra

 

> > for material gains by overcoming even destiny… he will be like a

 

> man

 

> > who learnt to master the horses of his chariot (ratha) but forgot

 

> > where he was supposed to go.

 

> >

 

> > So always remember that as aim, when you do " any " sadhna or even

 

> > advise someone else a Sadhna.

 

> >

 

> > Love, light and joy!

 

> > Peace and Abundance!

 

> >

 

> > Dr Himanshu

 

> >

 

> > Gurudevo Maheshwaro Namo Namah

 

> >

 

> > , Khatri Anand <khatrianand@ ...>

 

> > wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > > Jai Gurudev,

 

> > >

 

> > > This is really interesting discussion guys !!

 

> > >

 

> > > I want to pull out you attention from numbers to something else

 

> > now.....

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > Let's take some overview here:

 

> > >

 

> > > 1. People across the world are interested in sadhanas. Many

 

> > of them get Guru, a large portion of them are deciples of Gurudev

 

> > Nikhileshwarananda, and are our fellow Gurubhais. If you are member

 

> > of MTYV magazine, must have attended shivirs, seen videos of Gurudev.

 

> > Everywhere regarding success of sadhana, one thing which is always

 

> > repeated.... if you do not get success in one try, repeat it second

 

> > time, again failure, again repeat, continue till you get success.

 

> > > 2. There are probably few thousand people taking Mahavidya

 

> > Diksha every year. Generally for mahavidya 1.25 lacks of mantra japa

 

> > is prescribed. If done well, can be finished in just 21 days. Even

 

> > considering new entrants, finishing in 1..5 - 2 years is not

 

> > difficult. Do we see those many Mahavidya Siddhas around??

 

> > >

 

> > > What conclusions can you draw from this?

 

> > >

 

> > > If just chanting mantra can get me Mahavdya siddhi.... Graha Pida

 

> > is a small problem to tackle.

 

> > >

 

> > > Then why waste time in doing graha shanti for each graha?

 

> > >

 

> > > Say on the current discussion of Just one graha shanti costs me

 

> > 64000 - 80000 japa, why not do 1.25 lacks of Mahavidya japa, forget

 

> > of all the navagraha issues for the lifetime, and you can use that

 

> > Mahavidya power to do all the Shatakarma (Maran, Mohan, Vashikaran,

 

> > Ucchatan, Stambhan, Shantikaran) ? Mahavidya can give much more than

 

> > any graha can ever give.

 

> > >

 

> > > Where is the issue? We see people spending their whole life for

 

> > getting siddhi of just one Mahavidya... . How many times they would

 

> > have chanted the mantra?

 

> > >

 

> > > Our beloved Gurudev got all 10 Mahavidyas, and much more.....

 

> > what is it that he has ?...one thing is sure, its not just the

 

> > count....... ......... ...... how could he get success in all the

 

> > Tantra sadhanas he attempted?

 

> > >

 

> > > And not only success in one or two sadhana, he got many, and

 

> > mastered the whole Tantra field including all branches. He knows

 

> > everything about everything !!

 

> > >

 

> > > Even if we consider time to get siddhi, no other guru ever got any

 

> > siddhi as fast as Guruji got, and as much as he got. Thats why is the

 

> > the third chosen deciple of Param Gurudev Satchitanandji in past

 

> > 15000 years.

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > ... I do not want to quote my comments.... let forum people discuss

 

> > this, and we will get back to the count issue after this discussion.

 

> > >

 

> > > Anand's Knowledge Series:

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > http://groups. / group/guru- nikhil/

 

> > > Tantra Public chat room: http://xat.com/ ISSP

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> > > silver_rhine <buddhadevpc@ ...>

 

> > >

 

> > > Sunday, 22 February, 2009 12:11:53 AM

 

> > > Re: Planetc Pacification (Grah Shanti)

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > Hi Himanshu,

 

> > >

 

> > > You have raised a very pertinent question and am sure someone will

 

> > > soon answer you. After reading your post, few questions have arisen

 

> > > in my mind:

 

> > >

 

> > > 1) Regarding the ratio of the havan to jaap as 1:10, I would like

 

> > to

 

> > > ask you that if it is possible in every case. Because, according to

 

> > > the file uploaded here (at least for the Shukra Graha Pida Nivaran)

 

> > > case, it doesn't really distinguish between the number of japa and

 

> > > number of homam. In fact, if I were to understand correctly, the

 

> > > number of homam (for Kali yug as they say its 64,000... its a

 

> > > different thing that your number is different - 80,000) corresponds

 

> > > to the number of mantra jaap... Is that right, or am I mistaken?

 

> > >

 

> > > 2) When you say ahuti, and for the samagri you say

 

> > > " Til(white seasame seed)= x (u decide this depending on ahutis

 

> > > required) "

 

> > >

 

> > > Do you mean that if number of japa to be done is 64,000 or 80,000

 

> > > (whichever is the case), then number of tils should be 64,000 or

 

> > > 80,000 respectively or is it by weight? Because counting would

 

> > really

 

> > > be a mammoth task!!

 

> > >

 

> > > Also, do you have to MIX all of the listed samagri in the given

 

> > > ratios and then for each ahuti take a pinch of that and put it in

 

> > the

 

> > > fire and do it for 6400 or 8000 times (1/10 of japa)?

 

> > >

 

> > > 3) Is there a difference between 'pacification of planet'

 

> > > and 'strengthening of planet' even when it comes to homa? Or, is it

 

> > > that for homa both are valid at once?

 

> > >

 

> > > 4)What IS the difference between pacification and strengthening of

 

> > > planet? Which is more effective?

 

> > >

 

> > > I would really be very grateful if you could throw some light on

 

> > the

 

> > > above queries...

 

> > >

 

> > > Jai Gurudev!

 

> > >

 

> > > - Buddha

 

> > >

 

> > > , " scorpion_1112in "

 

> > > <scorpion_1112in@ ...> wrote:

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Hello everybody,

 

> > > >

 

> > > > This is my first post in this group so my sadar pranam to all

 

> > > > gurubhai and group members, and especially Khatri Anandji.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > I am already an astrologer so i like to add on to my knowledge

 

> > > > wherever possible, always a student of life.... so I just went

 

> > > > through the files section of the group as i was very much

 

> > > interested

 

> > > > in knowing the Grah Shanti (Planet Pacification) methods.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > There are two things i noticed though

 

> > > >

 

> > > > 1) The numver, of Jaap, its different.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > From usually what i learnt, the jaap for a grah is same in

 

> > thousand

 

> > > > as the number of years for which its mahadasha goes on.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > (And in kal yuga, it may have to be done 4 times <= this is only

 

> > > > because of lack of ability of people in kalyuga to remain pure,

 

> > > that

 

> > > > is totally pure during anushthan).

 

> > > >

 

> > > > This means

 

> > > >

 

> > > > 1) Sun = 6 years => 6,000 * 4 = 24,000

 

> > > > 2) Moon = 10 years => 10,000 * 4 = 40,000

 

> > > > 3) Mars = 7 years => 7,000 * 4 = 28,000

 

> > > > 4) Mercury = 17 years => 17,000 * 4 = 68,000

 

> > > > 5) Jupiter = 16 Years => 16,000 * 4 = 64,000

 

> > > > 6) Venus = 20 Years => 20,000 * 4 = 80,000

 

> > > > 7) Saturn = 19 Years => 19,000 * 4 = 76,000

 

> > > > 8) Rahu = 18 Years => 18,000 * 4 = 72,000

 

> > > > 9) Ketu = 7 Years => 7,000 * 4 = 28,000

 

> > > >

 

> > > > The mantras in that context are same as given in file section

 

> > > > Also the havan samidha (wood)is Same

 

> > > > And samagri for each ahuti aading swaha

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Til(white seasame seed)= x (u decide this depending on ahutis

 

> > > > required)

 

> > > > Rice = x/2

 

> > > > Yava = x/4

 

> > > > Sugar = x/8

 

> > > > Gud (Jaggery) = x/8

 

> > > > Dahi(Curd) = x/8

 

> > > > Ghee(Clarified Butter) = x/16

 

> > > >

 

> > > > And the number and procedureof the

 

> > > > havan = 1/10 Jaap

 

> > > > tarpan,= 1/10 Havan

 

> > > > marjan,= 1/10 Tarpan

 

> > > > bhrahman bhojan = 1/10 Marjan

 

> > > >

 

> > > > This everyone knows...

 

> > > >

 

> > > > So my first qustion is, From which, which Samhita or puran are

 

> > > these

 

> > > > Japa Quantity taken?

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Please, i dont contradict whats gives, but i need to know more in

 

> > > > depth, i respect other systems and wish to know more of this

 

> > system.

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > > 2) Secondly about yantra..

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Well the shape and size of Yantra is same, except for

 

> > > >

 

> > > > 1) Absence of Beej Mantras on Yantra

 

> > > > 2) Prepration on in different type of metal for amulet (taabeez)

 

> > > >

 

> > > > And MOST importantly

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Here Yantras are given for pacification of planet, while i have

 

> > > > learnt them for strengthening of planets.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Its like the same issues with gemstones...

 

> > > >

 

> > > > For example, Some people make you wear Gessonite (Gomedhak) to

 

> > get

 

> > > > better results from Rahu during Rahu Mahadasha while some people

 

> > > make

 

> > > > you stay miles away from it.... same for wearing Ble Sapphire

 

> > > (Neelam)

 

> > > > during Shani Mahadadha and so on...

 

> > > >

 

> > > > While other people make you stay strictly away from these stones

 

> > > when

 

> > > > rahu, saturn etc are being maleifc.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Although from my experience over years, i found the second option

 

> > > to

 

> > > > be better, gemstones and " even its tantrik yantra) are mean to

 

> > > > stengthen a planet. If a person cannot afford quality yantra,

 

> > > atleast

 

> > > > he can wear yantra as ring in precribed metal and finnger OR he

 

> > can

 

> > > > make amulet (taabeez) out of it.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > There is only one little twist in the story though

 

> > > >

 

> > > > The Vidhi Vidhan of wearing and treating a gemstone or Yantra

 

> > > >

 

> > > > I learnt that some system have a vidhi vidhan which reverses the

 

> > > > procedure of rays absorbption in body... the same gemstone which

 

> > > was

 

> > > > increasing rays of certain planet in body... or same yantra which

 

> > > was

 

> > > > increasing nenergy of certain planet, can be used oppositely to

 

> > > > decrease the effect and energy.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > If this is the case with the yantras given in the file section, i

 

> > > > would like to know the asbolutely precise vidhan related to them.

 

> > > > This knowledge can be seriously of great use/help for all.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Waiting for more light on these 2 topics

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Regards

 

> > > > Himanshu

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Gurudevo Maheshwaro Namo Namah!

 

> > > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Dr. Himanshu ji,

 

Jai Gurudev!

 

My sincere apologies if my intentions have been miscommunicated in my mail. Just

to bring to light the context behind my words which you have quoted, I would

like to say that you had replied initially very positively to my first mail to

you, saying that it would take you a few days time to answer my queries as you

were very busy with your work and I replied back saying it would be no problem

with me. And I thought I could make it a bit easier for you if you didn't have

to type out everything. Just wanted to help. That was all there was to it. No

intention of following you or shadowing you.

 

If you think I was in any way " shouting out to you as if you had committed a

major fault " then am sorry, I need to improve my communication skills in order

to convey my right feelings. I assure you that this was not the intention.

 

Yes, my problem appears to be very trivial. I wish you had told me that right at

the outset instead of saying that you would take some time to answer my mail.

It's just that I think that you are a very learned and knowledgeable person.

That is why I was so impressed and I approached you personally. But yes, maybe,

my problem is too small and trivial for you to solve. Had I known this earlier,

I wouldn't have bothered you by emailing you in detail my full problem, just as

a patient would completely repose his entire trust while consulting a doctor.

 

Respected Himanshu ji, I sincerely beg apology for this misrepresentation of my

thoughts and assure you once again that it is not what you thought my intentions

were. And am sorry for having bothered you with such a small problem and having

infringed on your precious time.

 

Needless to say, your this mail too contains jewels of knowledge as well. Since

you mentioned it yourself, I would like to state that I am also in that stage

where you might have been when you were just introduced to sadhanas in your

teenage. I too, am a willing student of tantra sadhana not just for fulfilling

low material desires but also for higher spiritual upliftment. That is the

reason I have so many questions in my mind. I am just in search of a true living

Master.

 

Pranam,

Buddha

 

OM NAMAH SHIVAYA

 

, " scorpion_1112in " <scorpion_1112in

wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> Hello sir...

>

> I must say thanks for your humility in your mails???

>

> Everybody, Read this (part of a mail from Buddha)

>

> " if and when you do get the time to do the analysis, I wouldn't want you to

waste your time again writing me a long email... If it is ok with you, I can

call you on your phone or skype or gtalk whatever you may prefer so as to save

you from the trouble of putting down everything to text... "

>

> See... this is the point... this is the problem... this is exactly why i

almost avoid talking on blogs or forums or groups... i dont want people

following me.

>

> I hardly get time out of my job, then education (learning new skills), then

practicing those skill, then household works.. and then in the remaining time i

answer such mails, that's why usually Sunday or maybe even Saturday is the day

when i even get some time to answer such mails... and even then, i am man who

believes in Quality or Quantity, it takes me time for each mail.

>

> But you shout out on me as if i have committed a major fault on my part...

when in reality i deal with 10 other people like you simultaneously, and they

are in far more severe condition than you.

>

> I think i have been kind enough... far to gentle in mails, but i will keep the

decency of not copying it here, rather i will just tell you to put forth all

that you sent to me in personal mail over here... i believe my other gurubhais

are far more talented to handle that sort of problem.

>

> In short, you were asking me of a " Vashikaran " type thing... and everyone here

knows how serious issue that is and how much caution needs to be observed.

>

> -

> -

> -

>

>

> But still you know what, i get sick of handling people at time... people want

to improve the conditions around them but they dont want to change themselves!

Their lower mindset which actually lead to these problems... and not just in

this life, in fact in many past lives!

>

> People don't want to become student of Tantra… they don't want to learn the

pure essence of it… the absolute tattava gyan of a soul as well as universe… but

all they want is their wishes to be fulfilled through Tantra.

>

> People want to get the " Practical " knowledge of Tantra… without understanding

the base theory of it… because even Tantrik core theory talks of Moksha as

ultimate aim and cultivating sattvikata and ways to move towards sattvikta even

if a person is trapped in Tamsikta… this to them is like needless prelude or

pravachan. Anyways, in every science its always theory first and then practical,

doing practical without going through theory is dangerous.

>

> And one must remember… " Even more important than spreading of knowledge is the

prevention of misuse of knowledge " And this is totally applicable to field of

Tantra… because if one does not have inner purity… then tantra can and will take

him to lowest level of hell.

>

> They want me to give quick fix formulas to get rid of their sufferings... so

that they can again indulge and be lost in pleasures of life... but not having

to learn any spirituality.

>

> This is why, this is " exactly " why masters warn their disciples... " Never

exhaust all you spiritual energy in fulfillment of your material desires "

>

> Tantra in itself was primarily meant for spiritual growth... but as time

progressed, masters saw material problems... physical level problems holding

back their disciples so tantras for the purpose of material growth were also

>

> But if even Tantra is used too much for material desire only, then again

sadhak becomes slave of desires and trapped in maya... earlier your physical

level actions were their for desires, and later your spiritual level effort is

their for wishes... still being away from the silent god element within, hence

staying away from spiritual growth.

>

> And this is why " Guru Diksha " is a must, as it can make sure you move towards

spiritual growth. (not just any other Sadhna Diksha)

>

> In short, my point is, if a person is not wanting to learn the core spiritual

lessons of life... not wanting to get rid of lower mindset, not wanting to

increase his spiritual knowledge but just wants to remain old self and " get his

wish " through Tantra, then please find someone else.

>

> -

> -

> -

>

>

> It is not my objective to write great blogs or books or messages to show off

knowledge.... its not my responsibility to spread knowledge, definitely not on

large scale. If Sometime later in life guruji tells me to do that, i may do

it... or else from myself, i shall not.

>

> As a sadhak you must understand, spreading knowledge is good but lets leave

the teaching part to Gurudev himself... sure helping others is good, but why not

help them by directing them to our greater source. This way you can keep your

sadhna secret intact and still spread knowledge. It is only in rare case of

extreme emergency where one of us may suggest something from our side... and i

usually post something big when i feel wrong or corrupted knowledge is passed...

this can hurt name of tantra and the person practicing it, and please I don't

want that to happen, our gurudeva worked hard enough in his physical lifetime to

battle this situation.

>

> Although its like this, a 10th class student can teach a 2nd class student

(and i am not even in 10th) but this is not the ideal situation... the best

situation is when a qualified teacher teaches a student... because a qualified

teacher not only has higher level of knowledge... more importantly he knows how

to put it correctly in students head.

>

> A 10th class student may be a topper in his class... a brilliant student, but

that doesnt make him a good teacher. Teaching is a totally different skill...

and in spiritual world, its everything.

>

> Please understand

>

> Whatever i can teach you... my master can teach you a thousand times better!

No wait, thats an understatement... let me say million times better than me.

>

> So which way do you want it... this pathetic slow way OR million times better

great way?

>

> In my childhood i was virtually trained by my atheist father to hate spiritual

things and occult... call all this non scientific nonsense.

>

> Hence when i first read about Sadhna in early teenage... i thought of it

nothing but a unscientific way of fooling people with religion as trap used by

phony religious heads calling themselves gurus.

>

> Later i realized how sadhna is supposed to be technique for training mind and

intellect... but still felt these Gurus are selfish people trying to keep

knowledge to themselves making others slave by diksha and spiritual secrecy rule

(never tell you sadhna to anyone)

>

> Still later, i realized what the spiritual world is... i had access to Tattva

gyan... various beings from Subtle Positive and Sutble Negative regions of

universe... and then i understood what exactly the word guru means (wait, i

should not say exactly)... he is no human being carrying extra ordinary

spiritual knowledge or magic techniques... he is that supreme soul... higher

than Gods themselves!

> Thats when i realized every sadhna starts with guru... and my sadhnas started.

>

> Still later, i realized sadhna doesnt just start with guru... it is actually

almost carried out by him! We think we do a great job by doing 5-6 hours (or

even 16 hours) of chanting? Well in reality he is also doing work at your

back... his diksha energy in you that is... without which you will never be

complete. Thats why i say Guru Mantra is base for success in sadhnas.

>

> And now when i feel i can see through most sadhnas, i understand Sadhna doesn

only start with Guru... but it ends with Guru.

>

> Think about it... the people of Siddhashram... each and everyone of them is

higher than any god or goddess you can imagine... but still they are engaged in

sadhnas... higher level of Sadhnas..

>

> What will such a person do? One who has Asht Maha Siddhi, Nav Nidhi, Dus

Mahavidya almost as servants... and ofcourse all Gaun and shudra siddhis... on

who has mastered yoga and tantra... one who can produce and control anything

just by thought... what will he do? What kind of sadhna?

>

> Well they do Guru Poojan. The absolute highest tattva in universe is Par Bhram

(Pure Unmanifested Consciousness)... wait its no tattva, it the source of even

tattvas... source of even mind, intellect and ego.. source of even shaktis

triguna... and Guru is the only closest Saakshat form of it.

>

> So from whom do you want to learn... me or him? It will be stupid egoistic and

almost sinful of me to do that...

>

> -

> -

> -

> -

> -

>

>

> Still i will answer your questions to settle your curiosities

>

> Q) About the higher sadhnas and doing 24 lakh mantra in 6 hour... well that is

possible only if you do it in " Pashyanti Vaani " . This is even more subtle form

of Manas Jap....

>

> See if you move your lips... you physically speak out a word... then it takes

time... like Mrityunjaya Mantra... you can atmost do 3-4 Mala (Rosary Round) in

one hour...

>

> Mind moves faster than tongue... mind moves faster than wind... mind moves

faster than even light

>

> Yes, think of it... traveling from sun to earth... light takes 8 minutes and

18 seconds.. but your mind, if has activated 6th sense... it can know whats

happening on sun, and then whats happening on earth in less than a second... see

how outdated our modern gadgets are.

>

> Thats why Mind is faster than even time... you can not just reach any part of

physical plane in one timeline... you can also access different parts of

metaphysical plane... that too in different timelines!

>

> The problem is, man has started developing things outside of him, as a result

of which the quality of physical comforts has increased... but the quality of

human mind and soul has degraded because focus has shifted from spirit/god as

form of bliss to external world as source of happiness.

>

> Anyhow, point was, mind is the fastest thing... it is higher tattva, even

higher than Panch Mahabhoot (5 Absolute Cosmic Elements), or Panch Tan-maatra.

Mantra is the tool for training mind... mantra is the tool for enhancing and

directing minds powers... and using a mind trained by mantra, you direct even

higher energies of universe (energies of gods and goddesses) in your favor.

>

> A japa (chanting) on the mental plane is 1000 times moe effective than a japa

on physical plane... and on top of that, you dont just get more reward for each

japa... you can also chant more number of mantra in the same time of physical

plane. If orally you cant 1 mantra in 10 seconds... then in pashyanti you

multiply that by 1000. So you can imagine the efect... you do more chants and

each chant is more concentrated and effective.. hence result is 1000 * 1000

>

> But using mind in such a manner is not possible for everybody, that takes

great training... we can hardly do proper japa in Vachik (oral) mode.... if you

try Manas, than you will find many other thoughts start clouding your mind...

chanting is totally outlined... and you end up fantasizing/visualizing something

else... the quality of japa is pathetic.

>

> So how can a not so advanced sadhak do that order of advanced sadhna?

>

> To be honest... he cannot!

>

> It takes not just years but actually lives of training to raise ones

consciousness to that level.

>

> Now understand this:

>

> Consciousness > Conscience > Control

>

> The higher the consciousness (level of awareness), the higher is the link to

universal mind hence higher knowledge and conscience...

>

> And higher the conscious conscience... higher the control... of even life

forces and mind. (note: i said conscious conscience, not blind conscience which

works as subconsciously acted out rules/habbits)

>

> So main thing is about raising the level/frequency of consciousness... but

doing this at will, requires great training. And now focus, the word will is an

attribute of intellect... mind has the instincts and storage but intellect

(buddhi) is the governor... it decides which thought is to be handled how and

how it should be acted out or not. So intellect may train the mind... but what

will train the intellect?

>

> There is only one way.. that is by awakening the real " you " within you. What

we call as " Aatma " (Spirit... not just soul) is a very subtle word.

>

> Body changes, mind changes, intellects habbit change... but there is something

in you which never changes... which doesnt think or feel... which always keeps

watching silently... that unchanging self, that consciousness is Spirit (Aatma)

>

> Infact spirit doesn't even talk... not even mentally... it is a mere

spectator... although people will tell you spirit can command mind and

intellect.. but from experience i can tell you that is a lie, Aatma doesnt even

talk... its mere awakening is like a fear to mind nd intellect which sets them

straight.

>

> Aatma (Spirit) is not the karta (doer) or Bhokta (experiencing one)...

Jivaatma (Soul) is karta (doer) and bhokta (experiencing one)

>

> Aatma = Spirit

> Jivaatma = Spirit clouded by Triguna and... Ego + Intellect + Mind

>

> The real process of awakening of Aatma starts when mind and intellect

understand they have to be removed or let me say loosened so that light of Aatma

from within can shine out... that dark cloud of Ego+Intellect+Mind needs to be

removed.... its not that these three get destroyed, it is just that they direct

themselves to aatma within.

>

> So in order to reach " that " level of consciousness, first step you have to

understand this sort of dissolution of mind and intellect... intellect has to

be convinced this is the best. Only then mental silence and true concentrated

effort starts building.

>

> I am saying it just starts... doesnt happen completely, because although

almost everyone talks how great and important surrender is... may it be to god

or guru... but in reality no one completely surrenders! A total surrender is the

most difficult thing to do... infact one cannot do it, it just happens... doing

is by intellect or ego but surrender is even above them.

>

> It happens when Satvikta increases... then the fear is not experienced by a

sattvik mind and intellect.

>

> Now wait, at this point, mind you... there are souls in his univrse who have

total control of their mind... they can become thoughtless or do single minded,

total concentration Sadhnas... but they have not surrendered as they have not

learnt to lower their ego, rather expanded it... hence their intellect is also

Tamsik.

>

> They will do and succeed in sadhnas... but for evil purpose (like rakshas you

read in Purana). By the power of their concentrated Sadhna they can make even

gods and godesses, even Tridev their slaves...

>

> Like there is a Sidhashram of Positive saints... there are darker regions of

this universe (greater levels of hell/patal) where evil mantriks reside... and

believe it, their power is almost equal to saints of sidhashram. Like Daitya

Guru Shukracharya (Master of Demons)... in front of him even Deva Guru

Brihaspati (Master of Deities) or Manushya Guru Vishwamitra (Master of Humans)

may be outclassed.

>

> (And yes, people ask if siddhashram saints are so great and powerful... what

do they do to help us... well they are busy stopping the evil mantrik, its only

because of their knowledge and selfless support that we even live a day... so

much goes in subtle realms which we may not realize in our whole lives as we are

busy indulged in our own little lives)

>

> The higher evil mantrik train lower evil entities... and supply them with

powers to carry out evil work... and for sometime the lower evil entity enjoy...

but their form of enjoyment is tamsik, and it is eternal rule of universe that

tamsik happiness gives far more sadness in return. Hence they gain 1 unit of

happiness followed by 100 units of sadness... they are in vicious cycle.. to

again get 1 unit of Tamsik happiness, they do more sadhna... 1 unit happiness

and 100 more unit sorrows... they get trapped, and this doesnt change till ego

lowers and sattvikta grows.

>

> So be careful, don't fall for that trap... or their trap as if you worship

them, they will quickly solve your problem by giving you negative energy but

then make you a slave and part of their group.

>

> So sattvikta and lowering of ego is a must when you are on a spiritual

path.... and even more so, dedication to a master, because he makes sure you

dont fall in that kind of trap. Still, dedication to a master also happens when

atleast some part of ego is diluted okay.

>

> See i dont like it when people start treating even Guru as a deity to be

worshiped before every ritual... thats almost degrading him, insulting him...

and most people come running primarily because they are troubled by material

life problems due to their karma or stupid desires... not because they are

looking for spiritual growth, or moksh kind of thing.

>

> So you should remember his place and his ultimate purpose... which is to make

you a master.

>

> Anyhow, getting back to point of raising consciousness for higher sadhna...

well what i wrote above was related to this goal only as i told you of two major

obstacles... obstacles from within a Jivatma (soul) and obstacle of Evil

Mantrik's lure...

>

> And now, getting back to even more ground level... for some xyz sadhak who jut

entered the field of sadhna and occult... one whos awareness level if low and

mind is quarreled within most of the time... one who is having hard time even

doing Mantra Anushthan in Vaachik (oral) mode

>

> For him the only remedy... Only way a person can reach that level of

consciousness is by trance or hypnotism. But then, his intellect is dissolved...

he is not controlling the trance direction or depth, rather a therapist is.

>

> Although hypnotism is a temporary calming of conscious mind and intellect, but

its still a great tool and a lot of work can be done through it... that too in

quick time.

>

> Now consider a case where a person in present life is suffering from a disease

or relationship problem due to some bad karma or trauma of last life... (it can

be any last life.. 2 lives ago.. 10 lives ago.. r even 100 lives ago)

>

> See like if you murdered someone in past life... and lets say it credited 100

units from your karma account... then in this life you will have to work hard to

overcome those 100 units... do good deeds to debit 100 units in your karma

account to atleast come to an even point... you may have face mental unrest or

other misfortune till you save 100 people...

>

> And he make take 10 lives to do that! Plus, during these 10 lives he may end

up accuring more bad karma side by side for which he may have to live 10 more

lives just to balance his karma account! Hence it becomes a vicious circle.

>

> See here saving people is an attempt on the physical level... and even the

suffering is meant to help spiritual growth so that person learns killing is

bad... and by repetition cements this rule in head.

>

> As i always say, " A problem of a spiritual nature asks for a solution of

spiritual nature " . In this case you will be using a solution of a spiritual

nature.

>

> A short cut will be Sadhna... instead of wasting his whole life or lives

trying to balance out karma account on physical level, he can do a mantra

anushthan and balance it out in few days (a month atmost if done properly).

>

> Sadhna and its type will be decided by his guru, keeping in mind his karma

account and his soul nature... hence he will learn the required lesson (by

learnin i mean deeply learn so that he doesn't do it again in any life) plus he

will balance out karma account and PLUS he will get more debit in his karma

account.

>

> But the fact is... for the man of today... even doing a sadhna and succeeding

is a big task! If he were to solve it purely by Mantrokt sadhna... that will be

a long cut. A sadhna is an attempt to balance out your karma account as doing

Sadhna in itself is a Punya (good deed).

>

> A Tantrokt Sadhna is lightly easier as compared to Mantrokt one but Tantrokt

sadhna requires more caution and even more precise knowledge of articles to be

used. (this is very relative comparison though, if a souls basic nature is to do

Mantrok then he might find Tantrokt difficult, Mantrokt sadhna is for man of

will power)

>

>

> And even shorter cut will be a Past Life Therapy... this will be in matter of

hours.

>

> Although Sometimes even in Past life Therapy it happens that end result comes

out to be an answer from either some master or maybe even god (yes, i said god)

>

> In past life therapy, you can directly cross the barriers of time and reach

that lifetime where spiritual root cause of problem originated and then solve it

their itself… like take apology their itself, yes its possible.

>

> I have seen people crying for disastrous marital live… they say we have

kaalsarp yoga and Saturn in 7th house… we have done all astrological remedies

and prayer but still we are cursed..

>

> And even that level of problems have been solved in 2-3 sessions.

>

> And this is the highest level of science I was talking about, and its not my

responsibility to teach you okay… it took me years and hardwork to learn this.

At this point knowledge is very critical and I can take no chance whatsoever of

its misuse.

>

> Still if you want to benefit from it, then go to a therapist.

>

> -

> -

> -

> -

> -

> -

> -

>

>

>

> Q) About Isht Deva and faster siddhi

>

> Yes i did say that and I totally stick to my words on this one, its true.

>

> But even before you find Isht deva, you should find your Kuldeva... and even

before you find kuldeva, you should find your Gurudeva

>

> That was clear in my last post... wasn't it?

>

> As far as astrological way of finding Isht deva is concerned, well its a long

procedure which takes 1-2 hour to find out... so many Chakras (like Kurma

Chakra, Akdam Chakra... ) need to be consulted with respect to your birth

Nakshatra, hence the Akshar (alphabet) from that nakshatra.

>

> That is a longgg procedure and i don't think its required here... still if you

want, then take appointment from some good astrologer.

>

> But why even take appointment... when you have gurudev with you!

>

> I say first you should consult the elders of your family and know your

kuldevta/kuldevi from them, and make kuldeva worship a must right after guru

poojan and ganesh poojan... and then you should take Diksha and consult Guruji.

>

> When you talk to him, just tell you what want and what is the best way to

achieve it... that's it, leave rest to him, he will scan your subtle body and

mind in a minute and tell you which sadhna.

>

> Infact he will not only tell you which deity to worship, but he will also tell

you how to worship that deity

>

> For example:

>

> Lets say one has to do Lakshmi Sadhna

>

> Now every Sadhna can be done in three ways

>

> 1) Divya Bhaav => Sattvik Vritti/Nature Sadhak

> 2) Veer Bhaav => Rajasik Vritti/Nature Sadhak

> 3) Pashu Bhaav => Tamsik Vritti/Nature Sadhak

>

>

>

> Shri Lakshmi has 4 vehicles

>

> a) Garuda (Crane) = Sattvik

> b) Hasti (Elephant) = Rajsik

> c) Kamal (Lotus) = Rajsik

> d) Ulluka (Owl) = Taamsik

>

> If the ritual was Vedic... a dakshin maarga tantra, then you would choose the

Dhyan image of Lakshmi on Garuda. Then the offerings will also be sattvik.

>

> If the ritual was purely tantrik... then you would choose her image on Hasti

or Kamal. Since common householder is usually between Saatva and Tama, hence the

Lotus one is the most common form we know.

>

> If the ritual was Aghor type... deep in Vaam Marga side, then you choose her

image on Owl. Then the offerigs will also be Tamsik, maybe actual animal

sacrifice.

>

>

> Really even same sadhna with same mantra can be of So many types..

>

> Sabar Tantrokt

> Sabar Mantrokt

> Sabar Aghor

>

> I am giving example of Sabar because usually they are considered to be lowest

class mantra... " Paishachik Mantras " ... lowest in the terms of stimulating

higher bodies. Thats why vedic mantras are called highest mantras since they are

more " meaning " oriented... hence they stimulate mind and intellect more... all

vedic mantra are " Swayam Siddha "

>

> But still, for some person X, a sabar mantra sadhna may be best. And be rest

assured, physically mentally spiritually the effect will be the same.

>

> So I hope how different types of sadhna in different moulds are suited for

different kinds of Sadhak. Really, there are as many paths to god as number of

souls on this planet… even slightest of difference in techniques can change a

lot, and let the master decide that.

>

>

> Next time you accost any Spiritual Doctor… just keep in mind the points I

elaborated here… because I did this for every other person like you who may come

across this group for your purpose.

>

> Light and Abundance!

> Himanshu

>

> Gurudevo Maheshwaro Namo Namah

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

, " silver_rhine " <buddhadevpc@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Jai Gurudev!

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Dr. Himanshu ji,

> >

> >

> >

> > Firstly, my deepest apologies for not being able to respond earlier. I

> > was very busy and I wanted to have ample amount of time on my hands in

> > order to reply to your message.

> >

> >

> >

> > I must say that this message of yours is one of those rare ones which

> > needs to be saved for posterity. It contains a wealth of information

> > especially for a newbie like me (when you said that me being ignorant

> > about the difference between graha pacification and strengthening being

> > a very basic question of astrology, it is true that I am absolutely new

> > to this field and want to learn new things).

> >

> >

> >

> > Himanshu ji, the best part which I liked about your mail was when you

> > said:

> >

> >

> >

> > - " Tantric sadhana can be a cheat code to fate itself. "

> > That is sooo inspiring and that is precisely the reason why I am here

> > because I want to change my fate.

> >

> >

> >

> > - " In fact, if someone is willing to go higher, I could

> > tell him ways to completely alter his birth chart. " At this point, I

> > felt elated. Please tell me how I can do it.

> >

> >

> >

> > Himanshu ji, you talked about doing a Gayatri chant of 24,00,000 times

> > in 6 hours but just stopped short of saying " how " . I am really

> > interested. HOW can it be done? Am surprised that no one else has asked

> > you regarding this in so many days…

> >

> >

> >

> > You also mentioned about finding the True Isht devta and that praying to

> > the right Ishta can yield much faster results. I really don't know

> > how to find my Ishta and am searching but without any avail… Can you

> > help me on this since I understand you are a very good astrologer plus

> > sadhak?

> >

> >

> >

> > Eagerly awaiting your kind and valuable reply once again.

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks so much for taking out precious time to share this wealth of

> > information with all of us.

> >

> >

> >

> > Warm Regards,

> >

> > Buddha

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " N.E. Subhramaniyam " <nes50@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Thanks.An excellent and informative post.Thanks for sharing such

> > wealth of information

> > > regds

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > scorpion_1112in scorpion_1112in@

> > >

> > > Monday, 23 February, 2009 4:23:15 PM

> > > Re: Planetc Pacification (Grah Shanti)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello everybody

> > >

> > > I see two posts as reply to my last post, and after reading them i

> > > feel like saying and explaining a few things, today is my offday and

> > > i have time so i will try to answer Buddha first and then Anand.

> > >

> > > First i am taking buddhas questions

> > >

> > > 1) Ratio of Japa Is to homa

> > >

> > > ( I am doing copy paste of something from my book, this will help)

> > >

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > >

> > > The Mantra and its number, of Jaap, it's different for different

> > > planet.

> > >

> > > -

> > > -

> > >

> > > The Tantrik Mantras for Planet Pacification are (Most powerful and

> > > effective)

> > >

> > > 1) Sun = " Om Hraam Hreem Hraum Sah Suryay Namah "

> > > 2) Moon = " Om shraam Shreem Shraum Sah Chandra-masay Namah "

> > > 3) Mars = " Om Kraam Kreem Kraum Sah Bhomaay Namah "

> > > 4) Mercury = " Om Braam Breem Braum Sah Budhaay Namah "

> > > 5) Jupiter = " Om Graam Greem Graum Sah Guruvay Namah "

> > > 6) Venus = " Om Draam Dreem Draum Sah Shukraay Namah "

> > > 7) Saturn = " Om Praam Preem Praum Sah Shan-vay Namah "

> > > 8) Rahu = " Om Chhraam Chhreem Chhraum Sah Rahu-vay Namah "

> > > 9) Ketu = " Om Ayeim Hreem Ketvay Namah "

> > >

> > > The Short Tantrik Mantra for Planets are (Medium range, mostly used

> > > in Yantras and offerings)

> > >

> > > 1) Sun = " Om Ghrini Aadityaay Namah "

> > > 2) Moon = " Om Som Somaay Namah Namah "

> > > 3) Mars = " Om Ang Angaar-kaaray Namah "

> > > 4) Mercury = " Om Boom Budhaay Namah "

> > > 5) Jupiter = " Om Brim Brihaspat-yay Namah "

> > > 6) Venus = " Om Shoom Shukray Namah "

> > > 7) Saturn = " Om Sham Shanesh-charay Namah "

> > > 8) Rahu = " Om Raam Rahu-vay Namah "

> > > 9) Ketu = " Om Kaim Ketvay Namah "

> > >

> > > The jaap for a planet/grah is same in thousand as the number of years

> > > for which its mahadasha goes on.

> > >

> > > (And in kal yuga, it may have to be done 4 times <= this is only

> > > because of lack of ability of people in kalyuga to remain pure, that

> > > is totally pure during anushthan).

> > >

> > > This means

> > >

> > > 1) Sun = 6 years => 6,000 * 4 = 24,000

> > > 2) Moon = 10 years => 10,000 * 4 = 40,000

> > > 3) Mars = 7 years => 7,000 * 4 = 28,000

> > > 4) Mercury = 17 years => 17,000 * 4 = 68,000

> > > 5) Jupiter = 16 Years => 16,000 * 4 = 64,000

> > > 6) Venus = 20 Years => 20,000 * 4 = 80,000

> > > 7) Saturn = 19 Years => 19,000 * 4 = 76,000

> > > 8) Rahu = 18 Years => 18,000 * 4 = 72,000

> > > 9) Ketu = 7 Years => 7,000 * 4 = 28,000

> > >

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > >

> > > Procedure of Following Jaap, Havan, Tarpan, Maarjan, Brahman Bhojan

> > >

> > > The number and procedure of the

> > > Havan = 1/10 Jaap

> > > Tarpan,= 1/10 Havan

> > > Marjan,= 1/10 Tarpan

> > > Brahman bhojan = 1/10 Marjan

> > >

> > > For example:

> > >

> > > Mantra Jaap = 1,00,000 (=> 1,000 Mala / Rounds of Rosary)

> > > => Havan = 10 % of Mantra Jaap = 10 % of 1,00,000 = 10,000 (=>

> > > 100 Mala)

> > > => Tarpan = 10 % of Havan = 10 % of 10,000 = 1,000 (=> 10 Mala)

> > > => Maarjan = 10 % of Tarpan = 10 % of 1,000 = 100 (=> 1 Mala)

> > > => Brahman Bhojan = 10 % of 100 = 10

> > >

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > >

> > > If one is not doing havan, tarpan, maarjan after Mantra Jaap then he

> > > can take sankalp for Tarpan and do twice jap for tarpan, sanaklp and

> > > twice jap for Maarjan, so the numbers it become

> > >

> > > Jap in lieu of Havan = 2 * 100 = 200 Mala

> > > Jap in lieu of Tarpan = 2 * 10 = 20 Mala

> > > Jap in lieu of Marjan = 2 * 1 = 2 Mala

> > > Jap in lieu of Brahman = 1 mala (if less than 108, we do atleast one

> > > 1 mala)

> > >

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > >

> > > 2) Regarding Samidha (wood) and Samagri for Ahuti

> > >

> > > (I'll again copy paste from my book but explain more this time)

> > >

> > > Samidha (Wood Sticks) for various planets

> > >

> > > 1) Sun = Aak Wood

> > > 2) Moon = Palash Wood

> > > 3) Mars = khair Wood

> > > 4) Mercury = Apa-maarga Wood

> > > 5) Jupiter = Peepal Wood

> > > 6) Venus = Goolar Wood

> > > 7) Saturn = Shami Wood

> > > 8) Rahu = Druva

> > > 9) Ketu = Kusha

> > >

> > > And samagri for each ahuti aading swaha

> > >

> > > Til(white seasame seed)= x (u decide this depending on ahutis

> > > required)

> > > Rice = x/2

> > > Yava = x/4

> > > Sugar = x/8

> > > Gud (Jaggery) = x/8

> > > Dahi(Curd) = x/8

> > > Ghee(Clarified Butter) = x/16

> > >

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > >

> > > Now specifically taking your example of Venus.

> > >

> > > Venus Jaap = 80,000

> > >

> > > => Number of Ahutis required saying " Om Draam Dreem Draum Sah Shukray

> > > Namah Swaha " = 10 % of 80,00 = 8,000 (this means 80 rounds of rosary)

> > >

> > > But to be practical, i never put that many ahutis because it's very

> > > expensive, although it's ideal thing to do but it's expensive.

> > >

> > > Like what i will do is, Make 1000 Ahutis, => 10 Mala. (mala = rosary

> > > round), So i am left with 70 Mala, so i will do 140 more rounds in

> > > lieu of ideal 70 more mala havan that was required.

> > >

> > > But be careful, you will have to announce this in the sankalp for

> > > havan that you will give 1000 ahutis and then do double jap for

> > > remaining ahutis (offerings).

> > >

> > > Or you can completely skip homam and directly do 80*2 = 160 rounds of

> > > rosary by taking sankalp..

> > >

> > > But i usually prefer atleast some homa, because it mean what you are

> > > offering to fire, breaks up into subtle form and goes directly to the

> > > deity for whom you are doing the homam.

> > >

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > >

> > > And further about the samagri for homam

> > >

> > > Lets say you have to do homam for 1,000 Ahutis.

> > > Lets say that takes 1600 grams of ahuti (=> x = 1600gm)

> > >

> > > (very rough example, but i am using this number 1600 for sheer ease

> > > of calculation)

> > >

> > > =>Til(white seasame seed)= 1600 gm

> > > =>Rice = 800 gm

> > > =>Yava = 400 gm

> > > =>Sugar = 200 gm

> > > =>Gud (Jaggery) = 200 gm

> > > =>Dahi(Curd) = 200 gm

> > > =>Ghee(Clarified Butter) = 100gm

> > >

> > > Total Weight of Misture = 3500 gm = 3.5 kg

> > >

> > > You have to offer the a mixture with this composition okay, " the

> > > mixture " for ahuti.

> > >

> > > Remember, take the Til amound as the mean.

> > >

> > > And to be precise, if you want to be very scientific about it, then

> > > calculate total amount of ahuti that you can put on a small teaspoon.

> > > Multiply that by the number of ahutis you want, then you will get the

> > > total weight of the mixture you need and then decide quantity of

> > > specific ingredient accordingly.

> > >

> > > Oh and one thing, remember this composition of mixture is for Navgrah

> > > Shanti, for homam of other purpose, samidha (wood) Ingredient of Ahut

> > > and basically whole procedure is different. So if this is your first

> > > homam, then remember this composition applies to Navgrah Shanti only.

> > >

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > >

> > > 3) Difference Between Planet Pacification and Strengthening. .. and

> > > application of Homam if required.

> > >

> > > Well ofcourse there IS difference between Pacification and

> > > strengthening (will explain in answer to your next question)

> > >

> > > About Homa, well from my learning and experience, its done after

> > > certain jap and you decide for what purpose you are doing a Jaap.

> > > That basically applies to any sort of Mantra Anushthan in general.

> > > Homa is after jap.

> > >

> > > But for strengthening, jaap is not always required.

> > > There are other methods for that like gemstones, yantras, prayogs of

> > > the yantra, storas, kavachas etc.

> > >

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > >

> > > 4) Which is better, Planet Pacification or Strengthening

> > >

> > > Well this is an absolute basic question of astrology; if you don't

> > > know the precise answer for this question then you are not in a

> > > situation for remedies as such.

> > >

> > > Lets take example of any Healing Science, Doctor Job (as i am)

> > >

> > > You need to be master of 4 things help someone

> > >

> > > 1) Anatomy (Structure of Body)

> > > 2) Physiology (Working of Structure)

> > > 3) Pathology (how structure gets infected/diseases/ injured)

> > > 4) Medicine (how to overcome infection, diseases, injury)

> > >

> > > Taking this in astrological sense, you should know

> > >

> > > 1) Precise placement of planets in different charts,

> > > 2) Their working (exactly what +ve or -ve phal/result they are

> > > yeilding),

> > > 3) Which planets are causing suffering?

> > > 4) Which remedies for those planets?

> > >

> > > Basically all astrological (and i mean classical astrological ones as

> > > from purans) remedies work on

> > >

> > > a) Strengthening of Benefic Planet

> > > b) Pacification of Malefic Planet

> > >

> > > Actually explaining this one point may as well mean explaining whole

> > > of astrology to you, ha ha.... so i will wrap it short and say

> > >

> > > Yes, both these can be... should be applied together, but as you

> > > know, medicine should only be given by an expert, wrong medicine

> > > could aggravate the problem, so be careful.

> > >

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > >

> > > Now coming on to Anandas point...

> > >

> > > First, plz let me numerate various ways of Planet Pacification Grah

> > > Shanti

> > >

> > > 1) Wearing Gemstones

> > > Strengthening a benefic planet also protects from malefic ones.

> > >

> > > 2) Puja (Worship)

> > > Simple worship of unfavorable planet.. shodashupchar, panchopchar. .

> > > with their viniyog, shyan, path.. etc

> > >

> > > 3) Kavach Paath (wearing astral armor)

> > > Tantrokt Kavach path of the favorable planets protects from malefic

> > > effect of unfavorable ones.

> > >

> > > 4) Japa

> > > This is like more advanced and rigorous form of Puja where you do

> > > thousand of chants for pacifying malefic planet.

> > >

> > > 5) Donation

> > > Daan of malefic planet is also one way of pacifying it

> > >

> > > 6) Vrat (Fasting)

> > > Fasting on specific days of malefic planet, with sankalp and

> > > systematic worship of malefic planet is way to pacify them.

> > >

> > > 7) Yantra

> > > Getting a banefic planets Yantra from a Tantrik (common men cannot

> > > make it, only initialized tantrik knows how) is also one way of

> > > protection from malefic planet.

> > >

> > > 8) Tantrik Totka

> > > This simple way of messing (yes practically interfering and messing)

> > > with working of malefic planet by getting control on their kaark

> > > Tatvas (causal elements)

> > >

> > > Like Kaark Tatva as Rasa (taste) for Mars is Sweet, so you donate

> > > sweet naan on tuesday, this doesn't let a malefic mars play it game,

> > > on contrary is reverses.

> > >

> > > Causal colours of mars is red, day for mars is Tuesday... colors for

> > > Jupiter is yellow, day is Thursday... and so on.

> > >

> > > Causal taste of venus is sour, for saturn is salty.. and so on.

> > >

> > > These totaks are very simple, very quick to apply and still very

> > > effective.

> > >

> > > 9) *** Tantrik Mantra Sadhna *** (Spiritual Practice)

> > >

> > > If the person suffering from malefic planet, opts to get diksha for a

> > > Tantrik Mantra from a Sadguru and does Sadhna, or gets it done by

> > > some tantrik, then also he can get his those wishes fulfilled which

> > > were not being fulfilled because of malefic planets.

> > >

> > > Lets discuss one of the practical example which i took

> > >

> > > Lets say someone has Rahu (Dragons Head) and Saturn in 7th house on

> > > Aries (Maish rashi) of their enemy Mars, their total enemy, and on

> > > top of that the lord of 7th house, Mars falls in 8th house and is

> > > totally dibilited on Taurus sign of Venus... plus Ketu is having full

> > > negative aspect on Aries sign of Mars in 7th house

> > >

> > > In such a case, such a person's marital life and money situation life

> > > will be totally disturbed, or let me say destroyed

> > >

> > > Now the severity of the situation is such, that even complete

> > > application of the traditional planet pacification procedures, will

> > > give only a little success.

> > >

> > > Come on, lets be serious and honest... as an astrologer i know

> > > exactly " how much " of a difference which remedy can make in someone's

> > > life and i know the limits of traditional astrological solutions.

> > >

> > > But if he opts for a Tantrik Sadhna, then he will be able to overcome

> > > ill effect of malefic planet.

> > >

> > > Like in this case, if he manages to get succes in a Matangi

> > > Mahavidya, no matter what his thousand past lives bad karmas may have

> > > been... that lead to such a bad placement of planet in his chart...

> > > his power of sadhna will overcome that karma and still give him

> > > wonderful marital life and loads of wealth.

> > >

> > > 10) *** Rudraksh ***

> > >

> > > Ruraksh (scientifically known as Utrasum seeds) also actually come in

> > > Tantrik Category. They are tears and jewels of lord Shiva.

> > >

> > > And well what can i say about power of lord shiva... whatever i say

> > > will be less and sound more of an insult to him... but still i will

> > > try,

> > >

> > > Ruraksh are not gemstone but they can be thousand times more powerful

> > > than any gemstone, but that totally depends on the person wearing it.

> > >

> > > A gemstone is more of one time effort, you can do pran pratishtha and

> > > wear it forever... if it gives say 10 units goodness, then it will

> > > keep giving that till its life (although recharging them after 3-4

> > > years if good way of cleansing any negativity they gain)

> > >

> > > But a ruraksh, needs more attention and care, and if its treated

> > > properly, it can give you 1000 units of goodness, but still,

> > > observing how common men treat them, they effectiveness is reduced to

> > > same as gemstone or little more.

> > >

> > > One must know tantrik procedure associated for them and follow rules

> > > of wearing them (like don't wear at night, especially not if you have

> > > sex at night, no way!)

> > >

> > > Still for basic purpose, one can do sankar of ruraksh (initialize and

> > > energies) and wear it.

> > >

> > > The number of facets of rudraksh is the most critical thing. Although

> > > some people associate different number of facet to different planet,

> > > but i have found out the number of facet corresponds to number of

> > > houses in a birth chart

> > >

> > > Like in the above example, 7th house is badly inflicted, so he can

> > > wear a 7 facet rudraksh for that.

> > >

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > >

> > > The last two remedies are actually " beyond " planet pacification. ..

> > >

> > > Infact Tantrik Sadhna can be called a cheat code to fate itself!

> > >

> > > Anand bhai, its true i agree, but the point is... extremely few

> > > people are ready to take up that kind of task. Even to do sadhna some

> > > character is required, a dedication to Guru is required, in reality

> > > this is rare!

> > >

> > > Infact if someone is willing to go higher, i can tell him ways to

> > > completely alter his birth char itself! Yes, its possible!

> > >

> > > Even without Tantrik Sadhna, but when i tell this to someone... they

> > > think of me as fool. Because their minds are so closed with what they

> > > know and believe right now...

> > >

> > > These techniques, even beyond tantra, that i am talking right now are

> > > very rare and known to very few human beings on this planet. Only

> > > about 4000 people out of 6 Billion.

> > >

> > > Think of it... doing a Maha Anushthan of 24,00,000 Gayatri month...

> > > in just 6 hours!

> > >

> > > Sounds illogical right? When even one mantra takes 10 seconds, 3 -4

> > > mala take one house... then how can someone chant 24 00 000 mantra

> > > within 6 hours?

> > >

> > > Well that's one of the secrets of higher planes, and siddhashram is

> > > also such place of secret high level sadhnas, the land of masters.

> > >

> > > And with these techniques, the phal/result you get from that, you can

> > > gain that in just 3 hours!

> > >

> > > Anyhow, i will stop this extremely high level point here and come

> > > back to more ground reality point of Mahavidya.

> > >

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > >

> > > Anand bhai, there is a saying

> > >

> > > " Raheeman dekh Badhein ko... lagu naa dijay daari...

> > > Jahan Kaam aaye suyi... kaha karay tarwari! "

> > >

> > > (Never under estimate small after looking at big... the place where

> > > you need need... what will you do with a sword!?)

> > >

> > > Same is true for various sadhnas, their levels.

> > > Because peoples level should match a Sadhaks level!

> > > Actually this is a big topic, i will try to wrap it short.

> > >

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > >

> > > " " " Concept of True Isht and Sure Short Sadhna Siddhi " " "

> > >

> > > Success in sadhna largely depends on your aptitude for certain

> > > deities Sadhna... if as an astrologer you know how to find Isht Deva

> > > of a person out of 33 crore deities, then you would know what i am

> > > saying.

> > >

> > > Usually people make a deity of their liking as their Isht Deva but

> > > thats not wise... that's like a patient deciding which medicine he

> > > should take. Right way is to consult a guru or good astrologer.

> > >

> > > A guru or good astrologer can find that out for you... and know this,

> > > you may worship other deities for 20 years and still be waiting...

> > > while you worship your Isht deva as told to you by your guru, then

> > > you can gain astonishing success in 2 years itself.

> > >

> > > This finding of Isht Deva is directly related to Tattva Gyan. A guru

> > > has enlightened vision, he can see through your soul and in an

> > > instance decide which tattva in your physical and subtle body needs

> > > to be corrected and which deity corresponding to that Tattva will

> > > yield fastest result for you... while an astrologer can use his

> > > knowledge and intellect as his this eye to guide someone on right

> > > sadhna.

> > >

> > > Its like although wealth luxury (aishwarya dhan laabh) is Maha

> > > Lakshmi's department.. . but in reality any other deity if worshiped

> > > properly, can grant you all that. So sometimes worshiping your Isht

> > > deva and asking for things not related to genric department of your

> > > Isht deva, will still yield you faster results, sure shot results.

> > >

> > > Like you can say why worship kul deva when Shiva is the supreme....

> > > but stil kul deva has is importance!

> > >

> > > People come to astrologers for problems in material life... you can

> > > just tell them why run after pain pleasure and happiness of this

> > > physical world... why not directly do Kundalini Sadhna and go beyond

> > > even happiness to bliss...

> > >

> > > But do you think that is practical? Ofcourse not, hence every sadhna,

> > > even grah shanti at its level has its prime importance.

> > >

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > >

> > > And now taking case of our Guruji...

> > >

> > > First thing, he wasn't an ordinary human being, even before being

> > > born he was already a Siddha in his past life. This actually applies

> > > to almost any spiritual master you may see anywhere in world, they

> > > had gone beyond the point of no return, no fall back

> > >

> > > Like :

> > > Jesus was already enlightened under Essenes group from master Mosses.

> > > Same is true for Sai Baba, or Mahavira...

> > >

> > > Infact in Gautam Buddhas case, the legends have it written, the

> > > moment he gained devine realization under that bodhi tree...

> > >

> > > All the gods and goddesses of heaven, even Brahma Vishnu Mahesha

> > > came to his feet and said " Array bhagwan yeh kya kiya... aapne to wo

> > > prapt kar liya jo aaj tak kisi ne prapt nahin kiya " (you have

> > > attained what no one has attained till today in this kalpa)

> > >

> > > He totally deciphered the damn coding of the universe itself!

> > >

> > > In reality, our Guru had done Sadhnas for thousands of year before,

> > > so you can imagine the purity of his mind and level of his

> > > consciousness.

> > >

> > > Masters take a human birth for specific purposes. Although they are

> > > masters but its rule of physical realm that they still have to again

> > > do all the sadhnas, again rise kundli, but they are able to do this

> > > because their consciousness is already at an high level and their

> > > minds are pure.

> > >

> > > And actually this will also explain to you " why the thousands of

> > > people taking dikshas for Mahavidya Sadhnas are not Siddhas "

> > >

> > > But this does not mean that we cannot succeed in them hence we should

> > > not even think of them, its just that we have to move in different

> > > ways, directly doing those sadhna is not one of those ways.

> > >

> > > One has to work on deeper purification, correcting of Tattvas in his

> > > body and soul to be ready for all sadhna (guru mantra is base for

> > > that purpose)

> > >

> > > There is a famous example, " How can a metal ring float in water? "

> > > Answer " Well it can float if the ring is put around a light stick "

> > > In this case, light stick is the master.

> > >

> > > Although he will not leave you there, a master's true aim is always

> > > to make his disciple a master, so more training.

> > >

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > >

> > > Getting back to use of classical astrological solutions

> > >

> > > Think about it... even Dashrath, father of Lord Rama, the king of

> > > Aayodhya! He had to do pacification of Saturn,

> > >

> > > He could have asked the Raaj Guru Kashyap to do certain tantrik

> > > sadhna but even his guru told him other way.

> > >

> > > On top of that, he had to get done a Putra Kaameshti Homam,

> > >

> > > Even kashyap, guru of Rama had to direct dashrath somewhere as

> > > because that time only one rishi was expert of Atharveda Putra

> > > Kaameshthi Yagya hence Dashratha had to beg with tears in front of

> > > him, wash rishi's feet with his tears...

> > >

> > > And later, he actually had to ask Saturn to stop in his path so that

> > > his sons may have good birth chart.

> > >

> > > So please, i hope you understand Astrology is no joke.

> > >

> > > Its a great tool for knowing the precise problem coming due to

> > > results of past life karma and events.

> > >

> > > Infact even if you classify this as a tool, then saamudrik gyan and

> > > jyotish is Sthool (Gross) while things like karnpishachni, vaartal

> > > devi siddhi, Panchanguli Sadhna, Agyra Chakra Siddhi (complete

> > > psychic sense) these are subtle sciences.

> > >

> > > While astrology can give you blue print of someons life, these subtle

> > > sciences can give you fine details.

> > >

> > > STILL, Astrology has its own place and importance. Some places,

> > > infact most places a Sthool (gross) but quick and easy to use sceince

> > > is required.

> > >

> > > And being a true sadhak, you would know, that almost all tantrik

> > > sadhna require certain muhrat. You cannot imagine sadhna success

> > > without right muhrat.

> > >

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > > -

> > >

> > > And finally, the purpose of remedies

> > >

> > > Everything in universe has three levels

> > >

> > > 1) Physical --(Matter)

> > > 2) Mental ----(Energy)

> > > 3) Spiritual -(Consciousness)

> > >

> > > Finally, lord shiva, cause of the three causes, lord of Maha Maya

> > > Shakti.

> > >

> > > More than 70% of problems in life arise due to a mental or spiritual

> > > cause, infact let me say purely spiritual cause, and

> > >

> > > " " " A Spiritual level problem asks for a Spiritual level Solution! " " "

> > >

> > > Birth chart tell you your destiny... and your destiny is nothing but

> > > what you carry from last lives, your mentality and karma account.

> > >

> > > And when it comes to using Spiritual Level Solution, Sadhna, it

> > > basically deals with correcting the problems in ones destiny (result

> > > of past karma and events).

> > >

> > > Astrology is a wonderful tool in quickly determining the severity of

> > > a problem nd if you are very good astrologer, you can know cause of

> > > it in past life.

> > >

> > > 1) A Mild problem due to destiny can be solved by moderate spiritual

> > > practice (like sadhna which may include Tantrik Prayog demanding 5-6

> > > hours a day from person)

> > >

> > > 2) A Moderate problem due to destiny can be solved by intense Sadhna

> > > (this may be like an Anushthan that demands 12-14 hours a day)

> > >

> > > 3) A Severe problem due to destiny, cannot be solved by even expert

> > > level sadhna which goes for 16+ hours a day, it can only be solved by

> > > Gurus grace where Guru will have to use some of his spiritual power

> > > to uplift a person from that misery.

> > >

> > > But mind you, no guru will readily do that, its not good. Even if you

> > > have that much spiritual power, it's not wise to take this step.

> > >

> > > Most of suffering in life, no matter how unfair and extreme they look

> > > to a person, are meant to teach them a lesson... and if you solve the

> > > problem, then that person does not get suffering and deep down

> > > doesn't change himself, you actually inhibit his growth.

> > >

> > > Although these days. as you can see on TV, it has become a market to

> > > offer best spiritual solution to help people get of their suffering

> > > due to fate! None of them is a true master; hence their results are

> > > also minimal

> > >

> > > A true guru never does that... but if he can see doing that leads to

> > > your spiritual growth, then he might do it.

> > >

> > > Mind you, spiritual growth does not mean material growth... Spiritual

> > > growth means dissolution of mind, merging with god

> > >

> > > But still, he might help in material growth only if he sees that will

> > > lead to spiritual growth. Like if a person is so frustrated about no

> > > money situation in life that he is too busy making his and other

> > > peoples life hell... not even thinking about spiritual growth, then

> > > he might solve it so that atleast then he will look at spiritual

> > > growth, but even then, first he will try to advise that person a

> > > sadhna so he can do it himself,

> > >

> > > A master by himself has far more spiritual energy than even deities,

> > > but his job is not to provide you material luxuries that trap you

> > > more in this physical dimension... that job is left to devi/devtas

> > > (deities)

> > >

> > > His job is to help you become a master, move to bliss. Take you to

> > > Siddhashram, land of Masters. Deities reside only in third loka..

> > > Swarga (heaven) but there are places universe far more superior to

> > > even heaven. Master plane (loka) is the highest, closest to the

> > > formless OM.

> > >

> > > One precaution thought, even if someone becomes a master of Tantra

> > > for material gains by overcoming even destiny… he will be like a

> > man

> > > who learnt to master the horses of his chariot (ratha) but forgot

> > > where he was supposed to go.

> > >

> > > So always remember that as aim, when you do " any " sadhna or even

> > > advise someone else a Sadhna.

> > >

> > > Love, light and joy!

> > > Peace and Abundance!

> > >

> > > Dr Himanshu

> > >

> > > Gurudevo Maheshwaro Namo Namah

> > >

> > > , Khatri Anand <khatrianand@ ...>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Jai Gurudev,

> > > >

> > > > This is really interesting discussion guys !!

> > > >

> > > > I want to pull out you attention from numbers to something else

> > > now.....

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Let's take some overview here:

> > > >

> > > > 1. People across the world are interested in sadhanas. Many

> > > of them get Guru, a large portion of them are deciples of Gurudev

> > > Nikhileshwarananda, and are our fellow Gurubhais. If you are member

> > > of MTYV magazine, must have attended shivirs, seen videos of Gurudev.

> > > Everywhere regarding success of sadhana, one thing which is always

> > > repeated.... if you do not get success in one try, repeat it second

> > > time, again failure, again repeat, continue till you get success.

> > > > 2. There are probably few thousand people taking Mahavidya

> > > Diksha every year. Generally for mahavidya 1.25 lacks of mantra japa

> > > is prescribed. If done well, can be finished in just 21 days. Even

> > > considering new entrants, finishing in 1..5 - 2 years is not

> > > difficult. Do we see those many Mahavidya Siddhas around??

> > > >

> > > > What conclusions can you draw from this?

> > > >

> > > > If just chanting mantra can get me Mahavdya siddhi.... Graha Pida

> > > is a small problem to tackle.

> > > >

> > > > Then why waste time in doing graha shanti for each graha?

> > > >

> > > > Say on the current discussion of Just one graha shanti costs me

> > > 64000 - 80000 japa, why not do 1.25 lacks of Mahavidya japa, forget

> > > of all the navagraha issues for the lifetime, and you can use that

> > > Mahavidya power to do all the Shatakarma (Maran, Mohan, Vashikaran,

> > > Ucchatan, Stambhan, Shantikaran) ? Mahavidya can give much more than

> > > any graha can ever give.

> > > >

> > > > Where is the issue? We see people spending their whole life for

> > > getting siddhi of just one Mahavidya... . How many times they would

> > > have chanted the mantra?

> > > >

> > > > Our beloved Gurudev got all 10 Mahavidyas, and much more.....

> > > what is it that he has ?...one thing is sure, its not just the

> > > count....... ......... ...... how could he get success in all the

> > > Tantra sadhanas he attempted?

> > > >

> > > > And not only success in one or two sadhana, he got many, and

> > > mastered the whole Tantra field including all branches. He knows

> > > everything about everything !!

> > > >

> > > > Even if we consider time to get siddhi, no other guru ever got any

> > > siddhi as fast as Guruji got, and as much as he got. Thats why is the

> > > the third chosen deciple of Param Gurudev Satchitanandji in past

> > > 15000 years.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ... I do not want to quote my comments.... let forum people discuss

> > > this, and we will get back to the count issue after this discussion.

> > > >

> > > > Anand's Knowledge Series:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > http://groups. / group/guru- nikhil/

> > > > Tantra Public chat room: http://xat.com/ ISSP

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > silver_rhine <buddhadevpc@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sunday, 22 February, 2009 12:11:53 AM

> > > > Re: Planetc Pacification (Grah Shanti)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi Himanshu,

> > > >

> > > > You have raised a very pertinent question and am sure someone will

> > > > soon answer you. After reading your post, few questions have arisen

> > > > in my mind:

> > > >

> > > > 1) Regarding the ratio of the havan to jaap as 1:10, I would like

> > > to

> > > > ask you that if it is possible in every case. Because, according to

> > > > the file uploaded here (at least for the Shukra Graha Pida Nivaran)

> > > > case, it doesn't really distinguish between the number of japa and

> > > > number of homam. In fact, if I were to understand correctly, the

> > > > number of homam (for Kali yug as they say its 64,000... its a

> > > > different thing that your number is different - 80,000) corresponds

> > > > to the number of mantra jaap... Is that right, or am I mistaken?

> > > >

> > > > 2) When you say ahuti, and for the samagri you say

> > > > " Til(white seasame seed)= x (u decide this depending on ahutis

> > > > required) "

> > > >

> > > > Do you mean that if number of japa to be done is 64,000 or 80,000

> > > > (whichever is the case), then number of tils should be 64,000 or

> > > > 80,000 respectively or is it by weight? Because counting would

> > > really

> > > > be a mammoth task!!

> > > >

> > > > Also, do you have to MIX all of the listed samagri in the given

> > > > ratios and then for each ahuti take a pinch of that and put it in

> > > the

> > > > fire and do it for 6400 or 8000 times (1/10 of japa)?

> > > >

> > > > 3) Is there a difference between 'pacification of planet'

> > > > and 'strengthening of planet' even when it comes to homa? Or, is it

> > > > that for homa both are valid at once?

> > > >

> > > > 4)What IS the difference between pacification and strengthening of

> > > > planet? Which is more effective?

> > > >

> > > > I would really be very grateful if you could throw some light on

> > > the

> > > > above queries...

> > > >

> > > > Jai Gurudev!

> > > >

> > > > - Buddha

> > > >

> > > > , " scorpion_1112in "

> > > > <scorpion_1112in@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello everybody,

> > > > >

> > > > > This is my first post in this group so my sadar pranam to all

> > > > > gurubhai and group members, and especially Khatri Anandji.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am already an astrologer so i like to add on to my knowledge

> > > > > wherever possible, always a student of life.... so I just went

> > > > > through the files section of the group as i was very much

> > > > interested

> > > > > in knowing the Grah Shanti (Planet Pacification) methods.

> > > > >

> > > > > There are two things i noticed though

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) The numver, of Jaap, its different.

> > > > >

> > > > > From usually what i learnt, the jaap for a grah is same in

> > > thousand

> > > > > as the number of years for which its mahadasha goes on.

> > > > >

> > > > > (And in kal yuga, it may have to be done 4 times <= this is only

> > > > > because of lack of ability of people in kalyuga to remain pure,

> > > > that

> > > > > is totally pure during anushthan).

> > > > >

> > > > > This means

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) Sun = 6 years => 6,000 * 4 = 24,000

> > > > > 2) Moon = 10 years => 10,000 * 4 = 40,000

> > > > > 3) Mars = 7 years => 7,000 * 4 = 28,000

> > > > > 4) Mercury = 17 years => 17,000 * 4 = 68,000

> > > > > 5) Jupiter = 16 Years => 16,000 * 4 = 64,000

> > > > > 6) Venus = 20 Years => 20,000 * 4 = 80,000

> > > > > 7) Saturn = 19 Years => 19,000 * 4 = 76,000

> > > > > 8) Rahu = 18 Years => 18,000 * 4 = 72,000

> > > > > 9) Ketu = 7 Years => 7,000 * 4 = 28,000

> > > > >

> > > > > The mantras in that context are same as given in file section

> > > > > Also the havan samidha (wood)is Same

> > > > > And samagri for each ahuti aading swaha

> > > > >

> > > > > Til(white seasame seed)= x (u decide this depending on ahutis

> > > > > required)

> > > > > Rice = x/2

> > > > > Yava = x/4

> > > > > Sugar = x/8

> > > > > Gud (Jaggery) = x/8

> > > > > Dahi(Curd) = x/8

> > > > > Ghee(Clarified Butter) = x/16

> > > > >

> > > > > And the number and procedureof the

> > > > > havan = 1/10 Jaap

> > > > > tarpan,= 1/10 Havan

> > > > > marjan,= 1/10 Tarpan

> > > > > bhrahman bhojan = 1/10 Marjan

> > > > >

> > > > > This everyone knows...

> > > > >

> > > > > So my first qustion is, From which, which Samhita or puran are

> > > > these

> > > > > Japa Quantity taken?

> > > > >

> > > > > Please, i dont contradict whats gives, but i need to know more in

> > > > > depth, i respect other systems and wish to know more of this

> > > system.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) Secondly about yantra..

> > > > >

> > > > > Well the shape and size of Yantra is same, except for

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) Absence of Beej Mantras on Yantra

> > > > > 2) Prepration on in different type of metal for amulet (taabeez)

> > > > >

> > > > > And MOST importantly

> > > > >

> > > > > Here Yantras are given for pacification of planet, while i have

> > > > > learnt them for strengthening of planets.

> > > > >

> > > > > Its like the same issues with gemstones...

> > > > >

> > > > > For example, Some people make you wear Gessonite (Gomedhak) to

> > > get

> > > > > better results from Rahu during Rahu Mahadasha while some people

> > > > make

> > > > > you stay miles away from it.... same for wearing Ble Sapphire

> > > > (Neelam)

> > > > > during Shani Mahadadha and so on...

> > > > >

> > > > > While other people make you stay strictly away from these stones

> > > > when

> > > > > rahu, saturn etc are being maleifc.

> > > > >

> > > > > Although from my experience over years, i found the second option

> > > > to

> > > > > be better, gemstones and " even its tantrik yantra) are mean to

> > > > > stengthen a planet. If a person cannot afford quality yantra,

> > > > atleast

> > > > > he can wear yantra as ring in precribed metal and finnger OR he

> > > can

> > > > > make amulet (taabeez) out of it.

> > > > >

> > > > > There is only one little twist in the story though

> > > > >

> > > > > The Vidhi Vidhan of wearing and treating a gemstone or Yantra

> > > > >

> > > > > I learnt that some system have a vidhi vidhan which reverses the

> > > > > procedure of rays absorbption in body... the same gemstone which

> > > > was

> > > > > increasing rays of certain planet in body... or same yantra which

> > > > was

> > > > > increasing nenergy of certain planet, can be used oppositely to

> > > > > decrease the effect and energy.

> > > > >

> > > > > If this is the case with the yantras given in the file section, i

> > > > > would like to know the asbolutely precise vidhan related to them.

> > > > > This knowledge can be seriously of great use/help for all.

> > > > >

> > > > > Waiting for more light on these 2 topics

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Himanshu

> > > > >

> > > > > Gurudevo Maheshwaro Namo Namah!

> > > > >

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