Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Jai Gurudev !!Dear Guru bhais, I have seen often new sadhaks try a sadhana and if they are unsuccessful, theydo the same sadhana with new sadhana materials. This way they may purchase sadhanamaterials many times and ultimately, if they are not successful, they become sad. Now that we are discussing Chandramoulishar Sadhana, is it better to do the samesadhana 4-5 times with the same sadhana materials before disposing off the materials and till you are satisfied with the results ? Please comment on this.Jai Gurudev ! ! !Thanks & Regards,Avtar SinghSystem Administrator,SmartBuzz Web Services Pvt. Ltd.,SCO - 4-5, Sector - 17-B,Chandigarh.Cell: 91-9988583997 Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 All u need is faith, in absence of faith even if u take highest of diksha & do sadhana of highest of mantra thn 2 it will be fruitless. But even if u chant a small mantra like " namah shivaya " or guru mantra with full faith & devotion it'll bear results like doing the sadhana of highest shakti.....or devata...hence its said that whn it comes to masters u need to " surrender " ... ....for a sadhak a master has to be like sme1 beyond...para brahmn..only when he/she has such a faith/bhakti does the sadhana (any devata)...become fruitful else it never-ever vil it bear results even if u try for 1000's of times. Hop dis helps............... , avtar singh <avtar_450 wrote: > > Jai Gurudev !! > Dear Guru bhais, > I have seen often new sadhaks try a sadhana and if they are unsuccessful, they > do the same sadhana with new sadhana materials. This way they may purchase sadhana > materials many times and ultimately, if they are not successful, they become sad. > Now that we are discussing Chandramoulishar Sadhana, is it better to do the same > sadhana 4-5 times with the same sadhana materials before disposing off the materials and till you are satisfied with the results ? > Please comment on this. > > Jai Gurudev ! ! ! > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > Avtar Singh > System Administrator, > SmartBuzz Web Services Pvt. Ltd., > SCO - 4-5, Sector - 17-B, > Chandigarh. > Cell: 91-9988583997 > > > > > ICC World Twenty20 England & #39;09 exclusively on ! CRICKET http://cricket. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Jai Gurudev,Excellent question Avatar Ji !!Here are my comments: We need to understand the meaning behind Sadhana. When we do sadhana, we sit in specific direction, use specific material and chant specific Mantra concentrating on specific Devata... what is that we are doing? (This is explained in detail in Mantra Rahsya book, I am just summarizing it below) All the issues that we face are either from previous bad karmas or current one. As a result of which we face issues in life. The whole world is a flow /play of energies, and ups and down make you face / suffer in life. Different Gods are owners of those energies. When someone lacks in specific energy, he starts getting issues related to that. You can make out like, if someone lacks in Shukra Graha, he faces issues in Business and married life. Shani causes issues like financial crunch and health issues which are not serious but slow and painful. When we chant the specific mantra, we associate our atma with that God and his energy. Sadhana Material enhances this effect further. As a result of Sadhana, there is a fight of your bad energy and the incomming good energy from God. The incomming flow depends on your purity, your own spiritual level, Gurudev's blessing, your concentration......(this is what other Gurubhai commented as devotion.... etc) As a result your own level starts increasing, but the material used gets affected because of onslought of bad energy and the fight happening. The original Chaitanya level of the material goes down each time you repeat the Sadhana. General norm is, same material can be 3 times. If you do not get the result, change the material, and continue. Getting success in Sadhana etc are driven by what baggage (backlog) you carry. Issues are numerous... like Not having devotion to Guru, lack of concentration, impure material used, previous karmas, purva janma krut dosha, pitru dosha, Janma kundali dosha etc... People getting success in Sadhana, does not mean that do not have any issue. It just mean that some targets they were able to hit with existing baggage. The only analogy I can think of is like, you want to go to Himalaya, and you are starting from say Kanya Kumari. Obeviously you will use some vehicle. Same vehicle may not be able to take you, it may get damaged on the way, so you buy a new vehicle on the way and continue. Vehicle - Sadhan process and the material Fuel - your devotion, concentration, Guru Krupa Vehicle condition - your previous baggage and current bad karma Hehicle speed - existing spiritual level.Regards,AnandAnand's Knowledge Series: /Tantra Public chat room: http://xat.com/ISSP--- On Tue, 23/6/09, avtar singh <avtar_450 wrote: avtar singh <avtar_450 Suggestions for New Sadhak Date: Tuesday, 23 June, 2009, 10:39 AM Jai Gurudev !!Dear Guru bhais, I have seen often new sadhaks try a sadhana and if they are unsuccessful, theydo the same sadhana with new sadhana materials. This way they may purchase sadhanamaterials many times and ultimately, if they are not successful, they become sad. Now that we are discussing Chandramoulishar Sadhana, is it better to do the samesadhana 4-5 times with the same sadhana materials before disposing off the materials and till you are satisfied with the results ? Please comment on this.Jai Gurudev ! ! !Thanks & Regards,Avtar SinghSystem Administrator,SmartBuzz Web Services Pvt. Ltd.,SCO - 4-5, Sector - 17-B,Chandigarh.Cell: 91-9988583997 Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Thanks Anand Ji and other Guru Bhais for your valuable comments.JAI GURUDEV !!!Thanks & Regards,Avtar SinghSystem Administrator,SmartBuzz Web Services Pvt. Ltd.,SCO - 4-5, Sector - 17-B,Chandigarh.Cell: 91-9988583997--- On Tue, 23/6/09, Khatri Anand <khatrianand wrote:Khatri Anand <khatrianandRe: Suggestions for New Sadhak Date: Tuesday, 23 June, 2009, 5:19 PM Jai Gurudev,Excellent question Avatar Ji !!Here are my comments: We need to understand the meaning behind Sadhana. When we do sadhana, we sit in specific direction, use specific material and chant specific Mantra concentrating on specific Devata... what is that we are doing? (This is explained in detail in Mantra Rahsya book, I am just summarizing it below) All the issues that we face are either from previous bad karmas or current one. As a result of which we face issues in life. The whole world is a flow /play of energies, and ups and down make you face / suffer in life. Different Gods are owners of those energies. When someone lacks in specific energy, he starts getting issues related to that. You can make out like, if someone lacks in Shukra Graha, he faces issues in Business and married life. Shani causes issues like financial crunch and health issues which are not serious but slow and painful. When we chant the specific mantra, we associate our atma with that God and his energy. Sadhana Material enhances this effect further. As a result of Sadhana, there is a fight of your bad energy and the incomming good energy from God. The incomming flow depends on your purity, your own spiritual level, Gurudev's blessing, your concentration. .....(this is what other Gurubhai commented as devotion.... etc) As a result your own level starts increasing, but the material used gets affected because of onslought of bad energy and the fight happening. The original Chaitanya level of the material goes down each time you repeat the Sadhana. General norm is, same material can be 3 times. If you do not get the result, change the material, and continue. Getting success in Sadhana etc are driven by what baggage (backlog) you carry. Issues are numerous... like Not having devotion to Guru, lack of concentration, impure material used, previous karmas, purva janma krut dosha, pitru dosha, Janma kundali dosha etc... People getting success in Sadhana, does not mean that do not have any issue. It just mean that some targets they were able to hit with existing baggage. The only analogy I can think of is like, you want to go to Himalaya, and you are starting from say Kanya Kumari. Obeviously you will use some vehicle. Same vehicle may not be able to take you, it may get damaged on the way, so you buy a new vehicle on the way and continue. Vehicle - Sadhan process and the material Fuel - your devotion, concentration, Guru Krupa Vehicle condition - your previous baggage and current bad karma Hehicle speed - existing spiritual level.Regards,AnandAnand's Knowledge Series: http://groups. / group/guru- nikhil/Tantra Public chat room: http://xat.com/ ISSP--- On Tue, 23/6/09, avtar singh <avtar_450 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: avtar singh <avtar_450 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Suggestions for New SadhakTuesday, 23 June, 2009, 10:39 AM Jai Gurudev !!Dear Guru bhais, I have seen often new sadhaks try a sadhana and if they are unsuccessful, theydo the same sadhana with new sadhana materials. This way they may purchase sadhanamaterials many times and ultimately, if they are not successful, they become sad. Now that we are discussing Chandramoulishar Sadhana, is it better to do the samesadhana 4-5 times with the same sadhana materials before disposing off the materials and till you are satisfied with the results ? Please comment on this.Jai Gurudev ! ! !Thanks & Regards,Avtar SinghSystem Administrator,SmartBuzz Web Services Pvt. Ltd.,SCO - 4-5, Sector - 17-B,Chandigarh.Cell: 91-9988583997 Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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