Aham - Brahmasmi

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Dear friends in The Self.

 

I offer this to honor The Lord of The Universe who is The self in all

beings.

 

with love and deep respect

 

Ananta-bindu

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Aham - Brahmasmi

 

bindu:

namaste Sadhu

 

Sadhu:

namaste

 

Sadhu:

what is your opinion of zen buddhism?

 

 

bindu:

coincidently i was just reading this page on it given by another

student.

http://www.geocities.com/the_wanderling/luminosity.html

 

 

Sadhu:

I was up last night reading about it

 

 

bindu:

yu might like this--->>

http://www.upnaway.com/~bindu/anantayogaweb/downloads/downloads.html

 

Sadhu:

thank you, looks like there are some good books there

 

bindu:

welcome

 

Sadhu:

what do you see as the fundamental differences between zen buddhism

and sivaism?

 

 

bindu:

Well if we understand how the Saivites really look at Siva, there is

no difference .. but very few really understand it

there is a philosophy from Kashmir called Trika Saivism which is

closer to zen than main-stream Saivism; though

in my view (considering that The Self is Conscious ) it is beyond zen.

 

Sadhu:

mmm how so?

 

bindu:

Well zent talks of MOMENTS of sartori or kensho.... complete

realization though is constant

not flashes.

 

bindu:

Open this page and look at the third image

http://www.upnaway.com/~bindu/animbindu/animbindu.htm

 

In upanishad... it is called the light that lights up light.... as

you know it is love-light... to refer to it we could call it the

light in which the day resides .. or the Naked reality,,,,,

 

Sadhu:

This site is fantastic! thankyou

 

bindu:

The flash is the consciousness coming and going .. but the speed

there is like zero compared to the actual speed of the spanda

(vibration of coming and going)

 

Sadhu:

What is the significance of the BLUE BINDU ??

 

bindu:

Well the blue bindu (or tejobindu as it is also called), is like an

imploding null that signifies neither this nor that, nor in nor out,

neither existing nor not existing; it is a non-existent absolute

point that is not a point. study the page.

 

bindu:

through-out various pages in the Ananta Archives, the Jiva websites

and that page you will find all sorts of referrences which explain it

in detail.

 

Sadhu:

thanks

 

bindu:

basically though, it is the absolute presence; which really has no

form yet has conceptual attributes of a spherical nature .. both in

ward and outward. It is depicted as being spherical due to not

existing in comparison to multi-dimensional existence (which of

course connotes spacial-reality and Time also) in comparison to non-

existence (which of course is dimensionless)

 

We tend to think of The Self as it is some being with a form .....

but it is not ... think of this--->

 

If The Self is infinite then there can be no measurement of

referrences made to large or small because there can be no

comparisons made. hence no distance, no spacial awareness.... no

form, and no Time due to that.

 

Sadhu:

non-duality?

 

bindu:

Yes. non-duality so then there can be NO DIMENSION either. and hence

it is a distanceless point of light that is infinitesimally small yet

massive beyond comprehension also

 

So then in sartori or kensho, the flash may last a nanasecond or an

aeon; it may last an age. Yet to The Self ANY TIME is as nothing at

all thus it is seen as a brief flash.. but the apparent momentary

flash ONLY seems so tiny because to The Self it IS tiny no matter how

long it lasts or does not last.

 

With me so far?

 

Sadhu:

yes

 

bindu:

So then, The Self is infinitely small though also distanceless

massiveness; while in THE NOW as spoken of by the NEW AGEIES

there is an existent (though not real) Cosmic display. Yet at the

moment that it is perceived it has gone already; in less than a

nanosecond it is utterly destroyed and then in the next microdot it

is reappearing. Hence ALL TIME is compressed and expanded like a

heart beat faster than light. That throb is called the Spand-

Principal which causes the Spanda-Sakti; it is spoken of in the

Spanda Karika.

 

The Spand Principal is caused by the present PRESENCE of the I AM (or

OM). So then existence exists because He exists

He does not act to create it... it just comes because He exists; and

existence is the reflection of The Self in The Self. it has the

nature of the light of consciousness and exists as The Self's

Consciousness; but what He is in Himself (before existence flashes

forth --- before he shines forth as existence) it is not possible to

speak about because words are after hHim not before.

 

study that page and you will get a better handle on it. It tallies

with quantum physics - with the quantum world view.

 

 

Sadhu:

sorry to interupt...but why is it that some sages talk of the Light

as being golden in colour

 

 

bindu:

It can be any color; or no color, or all colors; but gold feels nice

and warm -- yet in itself it is colorless .. it is the clear light in

which the day resides. I call it The Naked Reality. The uUpanishads

speak of the light of The Self as being like the light of a thousand

suns; they say it is the light which lights up light. hence the light

of day is lit by it

 

 

Sadhu:

Yes. " Brighter than ten thousand suns shining forth at once "

 

bindu:

yes like that; so look at the first image on the page...

http://www.upnaway.com/~bindu/animbindu/animbindu.htm

you will see the dots of light.

 

Sadhu:

Yes.

 

bindu:

They are souls (which are reflections of the ever-shining Self in

Himself; each has its own inner light which is borrowed from the

source; but if you throw a torch into the sun as it gets closer to

the sun the torch-light will be utterly overwhelmed just as you and i

were.

 

Sadhu:

yes.

 

bindu:

Then the lights of all the souls shines forth IN ONE MASSIVE STAR;

but that star is the mind\consciousness of God

The star shines on His forehead like a blazing third eye. Yet when

the souls are all resolved into him there is no knowing His true

form. So He creates god to tell Him who and what He is ..... then

just as once you have seen your face in your bathroom mirror you can

see in your mind who you are; the mirror is not necessary anymore; so

it is when The Self knows Himself His form and the effect of it in

Himself is no longer needed.

 

Sri Dattatreya says in Chapter Four of Avadhuta Gita:

 

http://www.upnaway.com/~bindu/anantayogaweb/avadhuta/chap04.ht

m

 

18. Know me as free from all and from the details composing

the all.

 

I have neither illusion nor freedom from illusion.

 

How shall I speak of such rituals as morning and evening

devotions?

 

I am free from disease - my form has been extinguished.

 

I am free from disease - my form has been extinguished.

 

 

bindu:

are you with me? is it clear?

 

Sadhu:

Yes.

 

bindu:

This mirror thing is a bit tricky to understand: For example; Once

the witness merges with the witnessing by understanding that He IS

what He is witnessing both the witness and the witnessing are no

longer needed .... He can then let go of the beingness.

and recognize the infinite as He is no longer bound to definition or

form; He understands Himself to be formless and conscious ... He

knows He is the Conscious Absolute and can enter Himself or look at

the reflection... .

 

 

About this, Siva sutra says: " He is free in all modes of His OWN

consciousness "

To understand this we must look at the meaning of samadhi:

 

Samadhi --- " Enstasy, " which means " standing within one's

Self. " " Sameness; contemplation; union, wholeness; completion,

accomplishment. " Samadhi is the state of true yoga, in which the

meditator and the object of meditation are one. Samadhi is of two

levels. The first is savikalpa samadhi ( " enstasy with form or seed " ),

identification or oneness with the essence of an object. Its highest

form is the realization of the primal substratum or pure

consciousness, Satchidananda. The second is nirvikalpa samadhi

( " enstasy without form or seed " ), identification with the Self, in

which all modes of consciousness are transcended and Absolute

Reality, Parashiva, beyond time, form and space, is experienced. This

brings in its aftermath a complete transformation of consciousness.

See: kundalini, Parashiva, raja yoga, Self Realization, trance.

 

Sadhu:

What do you think about the idea of re-incarnation? and what do the

scriptures say about someone who has experienced the Light-- What is

to happen at death?

 

bindu:

Well, since the spanda-sakti is flashing in and out of existence AS

existence, the Jiva dies instantly along with existence

then comes back, in an instant.

 

Sadhu:

But what of the jiva that realizes himself as the Self what of he??

 

bindu:

A jiva never realizes himself. Not ever. The Self realizes who HE IS.

There is no such REAL thing as Jiva; jiva is a reflection

 

 

Sadhu:

i see.

 

bindu:

Can your own reflection in the bathroon mirror do anything without

you? Is he conscious? NO. In the same way the Jiva has no self-nature

of his own. His existence is an illusion; while that which is

conscious in all beings is THE SELF. The I AM existing in all beings

IS THE SELF

 

 

Sadhu:

True. Right now though are you not aware of your self as being in an

incarnation?

 

bindu:

Yes, i am aware of being IN an incarnation as well as being aware

that what i was has evolved to oneness with the I AM ... The I AM is

The Absolute Self. What is incarnate is an aspect of HIM.

 

This is the case in all beings; yet in the minds of most this is not

apparent.

 

Sadhu:

I think I read somewhere... by Shanti Sadan that even the sage is not

in the pure state of advaita when he talks and walks because it would

not be possible.

 

bindu:

That is right but inwardly he is.

 

Sadhu:

yes

 

bindu:

His inner state is open-ended inwardly. but the problem is in how to

understand inward as oppposed to outward

 

I said above there is no distance, this means the existence is INSIDE

not outseide The Self; hence is is His consciousness

 

 

Sadhu:

Is it possible for my Self to realize the Self by a mere means of

will? If so how?

 

bindu:

Whose will?

 

Sadhu:

mmm.

 

bindu:

In The Pratyabhijna-hrydayam and in Siva Sutra there is referrence to

iichaa-sakti

 

Search here for it using the top search box;

http://www.upnaway.com/~bindu/yogadocs/upanishadsearch.htm

 

bindu:

Since The Self is distanceless it is ever-present existence. This

means the light, the love, the consciousness and the WILL are the

same thing; hence he does not act at all; it just happens

spontaneously. The iichaa-saki is utter-stasis

 

 

Sadhu:

The seconed awakening of the Siva sutra?

 

bindu: yes

 

Sadhu:

I agree it does happen spontaneously... but why for some and not for

others?

 

bindu:

That is becuase they think they exist and due to that they try to be

the doer; if there is any attempt made it is the jiva.

 

Sadhu:

Then why practice yoga?

 

bindu:

Indeed.! Who is the practicianer?

 

Sadhu:

Jiva?

 

bindu:

There in lies the problem. So then the secret of acting is this--->

 

Who is acting? it seems to be jiva but it is not; it is The Self. but

the reflection in the conscious ONE of the consciousness makes it

appear that the reflection (The Jiva) is the practicianer. So then

ALL is done by The Self. For example try this excercise for yourself.

 

Say " I AM " in your head but dont add anything to the words " I

AM "

 

Add NOTHING - No attributes. Becuase there are no attributes

it is The Self saying IT!

 

He is completey aware. So then, say " I AM " again; this time add to

the words. Ss soon as there is an addition the jiva comes. What we

must do is not confuse what comes with the source of what came.

 

 

Sadhu:

I have come to think of the thought of I AM as being the absence of

thought

 

 

bindu:

NO that is not so at all. When thought is thought to be absent it is

empty mind only. There is stiill the i-concept.

 

Sadhu:

i see

 

bindu:

The Self is present always. Yet when there is the thought of " I AM "

(existing previous to the addition of attributes) it is the first

step away from Him; So he is the sayer of " I AM " in ALL MINDS!

 

bindu:

 

Sadhu:

what is the difference between the thought " I AM " and the Self?

Sadhu:

ok

Sadhu:

me too brb

bindu:

there is NO difference at all

bindu:

NONE

bindu:

so he is right there always

bindu:

and is fully consicous

bindu:

I AM means I EXIST as existence

bindu:

I am I AM

bindu:

that is my name

bindu:

i am OM

bindu:

see?

Sadhu:

yes

bindu:

as I AM he is opened being and conscious without limit of the

endless endlessness within which the Cosmos shines .... the cosmos is

his form but it is his conception of himself in himself hence it is

coming from the seed ....

bindu:

..

bindu:

When i use the word " Cosmos " it means the sum of uncountable

universes.

 

Sadhu:

k

 

bindu:

Hence it is existence without end; or omnipresent being existing as

His consciousness; but He is the Conscious ONE

i.e. He is not merely the Absolute Consciousness... He is the

CONSCIOUS ABSOLUTE

 

bindu:

Aham-Brahmasmi

 

Sadhu:

I am Brahman?

 

bindu:

Yes.

 

Sadhu:

What is your opinion of what will happen at death of the apparent

body that is?

 

bindu:

dust to dust etc.. or do you mean the self-concept or i-ness?

 

Sadhu:

So at death there is a final mukti liberation and thus no

reincarnation?

 

bindu:

No, there is a final mukti liberation and thus no reincarnation only

for he who has realized The Self; this is due to the fact that The

Self is pretending to be Jiva. When He decides He does not wish to go

on pretending He is jiva then liberation will result else He will

come again and again and die millions of times. In that way that

world He enters is death not life.

 

Sadhu:

What of the various Lokas that one can go to?

 

bindu:

His death is born when He is born else He would be trapped here in an

unrealized state for eternity.

 

Sadhu:

What of the realized?

 

bindu:

Lokas, worlds, realms etc.. are existing and come into existence due

to the belief held by the indwelling-Self who is still pretending He

is Jiva; the diversity comes due to His having become an individual;

the incredible diversity and variation of being and realm. loka,

world, TIME and seeming infinitely different spaces and atom

structures come into being and comprise all of existence because he

has come into being as Jiva (it means he has diversified to become

ONE!)

 

Sadhu:

What of The realized sage when his apparent body falls off at the

moment of death?

does He merges with the Self?

 

bindu:

He is already in The Self previous to His death. He chooses to come

and always will choose to come here to tell HIMSELF (Who is hiding in

other beings) who He is. He creates God to tell Him Who He is.. then

just as the mirror is extraneous so is god also then extraneous once

He knows who He is. Because chooses to come again and again

(incarnate) He is called the ocean of compassion

 

 

Sadhu:

OM!

 

bindu:

Yes, He is OM . The phrase goes: I Am Come.. It also means: " Thy

kingdom come! " etc.

 

Sadhu:

Bindu this has been a very nice conversation but I must go for about

a half hour I will be back online soon so I might see you then

 

bindu:

i will edit this file and email it to you

 

Sadhu:

ok

 

bindu:

Do you have any objections to sharing it with others?

 

Sadhu:

No, none at all.

 

bindu:

ok namaste then. __/|\__

 

Sadhu:

namaste