{LAYA-YOGA-CHAKRAS} OM: (Pushpa) Was, Himalaya Tirtha...Now, Siddhis

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Friend,

 

The answer to your question is contained within the question itself.

 

"...conecntrate on any of yor chakras and taking youinto memory lane all the time to keep you confused andbusy in your ownself..."

 

Your own self is the place where Self-Realization begins. The journey starts when one begins to look within and focus upon these chakras or other parts of ourselves that we have fragmented, purifying them and bringing them back into balance. In yogic meditation, we use the mind, directing its concentration toward the depths of true Self-knowledge. Slowly, slowly our mind and ego self surrender to become tools of the higher Self or Universal Consciousness, God. Enlightenment is the clear awareness or the state of awakenness of our True Relationship to this higher Self or God Consciousness. Where we tend to get stuck is in ego driven desire.

 

The mind is the grand computer or calculator. And, it is also like a set of mirrors which face each other reflecting eternity. But since these mirrors face each other, the mind and ego mistake itself--it's own reflection--for the peice of eternity or Real Eternal Presence/Self within. The mind is very fragile like the glass of a mirror and it's strength is nearly untamable. Focused concentration upon a mantra, fully surrendering the mind to its vibration, is way a of taming it. However, the mind is very tricky and subtle. It desires, and lusts after the objects of the senses. It desires nothing more nor nothing less than to be the controller of these objects and Lord them. In order to do this, it measures itself into a psuedo-existence distinct from the material world. It creates a self and other which are for the most part

diametrically opposed to one another. Why? To Lord itself over the "other." This is nothing more than the "power worship" of the ego.

 

The mind (again, like the set of mirrors which face one another), when emptied, has the ability to reflect it's own presence into infinity. The mind is subtle, astral and material. The levels on which the mind is able to operate and project itself are extremely subtle and more than one. Remember, the mind is the grand calculator and as such is the master of addition, subtraction, multiplication and division. Thus, one must do a thorough house cleaning, or purify themselves, in order to transcend the labrynth of the mind. On the lower surface levels, one may believe that they are surrendered to the higher Self within and that their desires are purely directed toward union with the Source beyond the mind, but at an ever deeper level, if one is not ever cautious, ego centered, selfishness may be present and thus ulterior motives remain that are rooted in a will

to power.

 

The proper direction of the mind is toward Self-Realization, not selfishness. Without fully surrendering oneself, all actions are to some degree selfishly motivated. How can one know whether one is fully surrendered? Search the heart for any desire to experience the fruits of your own actions. If any such desire even at the most subtle level remains, you are locked within the small self of ego attachment and cannot yet propel beyond the nastalgia of re-experiencing the bliss of yogic meditation upon the chakras. It is through suffering that God, Universal Consciousness or The Absolute Truth enters us. Realization of this Self is the ultimate bliss. Yet in the world of Maya, or pairs of ever turning opposites, the bliss that is experienced in response to enjoying the fruits of our own actions is transitory and ever fleeting. It is true (with a small "t") but it is not Real.

 

Making a "buck" or profit off your confusion, is a product of a mind using it's power to gratify itself.

 

Please forgive the simplicity of my response. As I have stated, I have no formal training nor have I been formally initiated into any spiritual path beyond the initiation of the heart which comes by the causeless mercy of my Ishta Devata Sri Lord Krishna.

 

Hari Om,

 

Ash

pushpa <dalwanip Sent: Friday, June 8, 2007 12:49:44 AMRe: {LAYA-YOGA-CHAKRAS}>OM: Re: Himalaya Tirtha website in english

Dear Aish,Since we are on the topic of siddhis etc,I must sharethis with you,it seems it has become a trend now,lotof ppl around us are able to get some chakra openedand conecntrate on any of yor chakras and taking youinto memory lane all the time to keep you confused andbusy in your ownself.CAn u tell me what cn be done about thisThanks--- Aishwarya <aishwarya_poudyal wrote:> Dear friend,> > I have had no interest whatsoever in siddhis, and> still do not. My knowlegde of them is purely> academic. My path is Bhakti. I have no formal> training in any practice, nor have I been initated> into any particular religious path yet. I have> joined this group out of pure interest in the> knowledge and to keep this mind always focused on> God or the Universal Consiousness behind, beyond and> within all appearances, at the end of the day

when> my meditations, cooking, working, cleaning, taking> care of others in need--human and animal have been> completed. I also study jyotish for pure interest in> the subject, but have no qualifications as an> astrologer, nor any desire to acquire such> qualification. I have no special mantra. I am a> Reiki practitioner and use Ayurveda for healing> myself. I lead a solitary, yet quite mundane> existance. For fun, I visit and feel quite welcome> in a variety of churches, synogogues, temples, etc. > > I see no use for such abilities at all in this life,> if they cannot be used for pure loving service;> moreover, there is no need to fear them. I have no> desire for power over anyone nor have I ever had> such desires, period. Such concepts have been what> has kept me away from churches and other religious> places of worship in the past. I

surrender myself to> God completely, chanting Holy Names throughout the> day. That's it. I am a servant with everything I do.> This is the perplexity. I have no need or desire for> such things and yet here they are. What to do? I> guess just accept them, and let them be.> > Hare Rama Krishna friends,> > Ash> > > Linder Stan <stan810> > Thursday, June 7, 2007 2:29:23 AM> Re: {LAYA-YOGA-CHAKRAS}>OM: Re: Himalaya> Tirtha website in english> > > As a goad to practice, the thought of siddhis seems> good, but you will only get yourself into trouble if> you get them. You will become more focused on your> powers then then the goal of yoga. As for raising> Kundalini read some of works of the founder of the>

Kundalini Research foundation. Just because you have> some Kundalini experinces does not mean you have the> full flower of Kundalini.> > Everything I've said above is my personal experince.> hths> > Stan810> --- pushpa <dalwanip wrote:> > > > > Dear Aish,> > what have u been concentrating upon to get> > siddhis,any> > particular mantra or simply raising kundalini> energy> > is giving you the power.> > > > Pls give more details about your experience> > > > > > --- Aishwarya <aishwarya_poudyal wrote:> > > > > What does one do if they experience Siddhis> > without> > > any intention to receive them? Should they speak> > to> > > a spiritual master about the experience? And of> >

what> > > tradition or spiritual path? If one has> meditated> > > regularly, practiced Bhakti daily in all aspects> > of> > > life with complete devotion, yet in all humility> > > feels themselves unqualified to be awarded> Siddhi> > > but nevertheless finds themselves having> > experienced> > > the rise of Kundalini and leaving the body and> > > moreover verified the experience, what is the> > > recommendation? What to do?> > > > > > Just curious.> > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > pushpa <dalwanip> > > > > > Wednesday, June 6, 2007 10:40:59 PM> > > Re: {LAYA-YOGA-CHAKRAS}>OM: Re:>

Himalaya> > > Tirtha website in english> > > > > > > > > is it possible to get siddhis through laya yoga> > like> > > hearing ahahat sounds,seeeing future etc,> > > > > > pushpa> > > --- ranjitmunohur <ranjitmunohur> wrote:> > > > > > > ,> Mohandas> > > > Dakshan > > > > <dakszan wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Hi Everyone! Namaskar!> > > > > > > > > > I start translate website Himalaya Tirtha> > Sangha> > > > into ENGLISH with > > > > my > > > > > friends. Knowledge about Laya, Raja,> > > Bhaishadjya,> > > > Hatha Yoga, > > > >

> Vajrasattva, Spiritual Path, Angels, Chakras> > > etc.> > > > But I am not > > > > sure > > > > > that everything is very good to understood> for> > > > english-reading > > > > people.> > > > > > > > > > So, I have a BIG WISH to read texts in this> > > > website and tell me > > > > about > > > > > mistakes ets. It will be very helpful ang> good> > > job> > > > for promote > > > > this > > > > > knowledge in the world > > > > > > > > > > The website is not open formally because I> > have> > > a> > > > lot work to do > > > > and > > > > > translate more

teachings. But the basis is> > > nearly> > > > finished. I will > > > > be > > > > > very happy if someone will help in this job> > > > > > > > > > > address of this website:> > > > > http://www.himalaya-tirtha.org/en> > > > > > > > > > Jay Om Namah Shivaya!> > > > > Dakshan> > > > >> > > > Namaskar> > > > > > > > I would be more than happy to be of assistance> > in> > > > your laudable work.> > > > > > > > Kindly communicate/send anything on the> > following> > > > email addresses:> > > > (i) rmunohur (ii)> > >

ranjit.munohur > > > > > > > Ranjit> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > Shape in your own image. Join our> Network> > > Research Panel today! > > >> >>http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------> === message truncated ===

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Thanks my dear friend,

 

You seem to talking from experience but as they say

easier said than done for the past 7 years I have been

trying to be on the above materialistic level and

purely conscious level there is no life w.o. being

able to clear the lower chakras until and unless the

desires are fulfilled the wishes keep coming up and

till you are not grounded you cant u'stand ppl aound

you...so utter chaos in my mind...guide me if you find

me confused..I think I have been locking myself up for

the all these years so now I am really feeling the

need to coomunicate with like-minded people who can

u'stand me. I am sure there must be lots like me who

will be guided by the right directions you give us.I

would suggest if you give us even one step in a day to

work on we all will be feeling better and than after a

week we can commuincate how better we are feeling.

 

Thanks

 

--- Aishwarya <aishwarya_poudyal wrote:

 

> Friend,

>

> The answer to your question is contained within the

> question itself.

>

> " ...conecntrate on any of yor chakras and taking you

> into memory lane all the time to keep you confused

> and

> busy in your ownself... "

>

> Your own self is the place where Self-Realization

> begins. The journey starts when one begins to look

> within and focus upon these chakras or other parts

> of ourselves that we have fragmented, purifying them

> and bringing them back into balance. In yogic

> meditation, we use the mind, directing its

> concentration toward the depths of true

> Self-knowledge. Slowly, slowly our mind and ego self

> surrender to become tools of the higher Self or

> Universal Consciousness, God. Enlightenment is the

> clear awareness or the state of awakenness of our

> True Relationship to this higher Self or God

> Consciousness. Where we tend to get stuck is in ego

> driven desire.

>

> The mind is the grand computer or calculator. And,

> it is also like a set of mirrors which face each

> other reflecting eternity. But since these mirrors

> face each other, the mind and ego mistake

> itself--it's own reflection--for the peice of

> eternity or Real Eternal Presence/Self within. The

> mind is very fragile like the glass of a mirror and

> it's strength is nearly untamable. Focused

> concentration upon a mantra, fully surrendering the

> mind to its vibration, is way a of taming it.

> However, the mind is very tricky and subtle. It

> desires, and lusts after the objects of the senses.

> It desires nothing more nor nothing less than to be

> the controller of these objects and Lord them. In

> order to do this, it measures itself into a

> psuedo-existence distinct from the material world.

> It creates a self and other which are for the most

> part diametrically opposed to one another. Why? To

> Lord itself over the " other. " This is nothing more

> than the " power worship " of the ego.

>

> The mind (again, like the set of mirrors which face

> one another), when emptied, has the ability to

> reflect it's own presence into infinity. The mind is

> subtle, astral and material. The levels on which the

> mind is able to operate and project itself are

> extremely subtle and more than one. Remember, the

> mind is the grand calculator and as such is the

> master of addition, subtraction, multiplication and

> division. Thus, one must do a thorough house

> cleaning, or purify themselves, in order to

> transcend the labrynth of the mind. On the lower

> surface levels, one may believe that they are

> surrendered to the higher Self within and that their

> desires are purely directed toward union with the

> Source beyond the mind, but at an ever deeper level,

> if one is not ever cautious, ego centered,

> selfishness may be present and thus ulterior motives

> remain that are rooted in a will to power.

>

> The proper direction of the mind is toward

> Self-Realization, not selfishness. Without fully

> surrendering oneself, all actions are to some degree

> selfishly motivated. How can one know whether one is

> fully surrendered? Search the heart for any desire

> to experience the fruits of your own actions. If any

> such desire even at the most subtle level remains,

> you are locked within the small self of ego

> attachment and cannot yet propel beyond the

> nastalgia of re-experiencing the bliss of yogic

> meditation upon the chakras. It is through suffering

> that God, Universal Consciousness or The Absolute

> Truth enters us. Realization of this Self is the

> ultimate bliss. Yet in the world of Maya, or pairs

> of ever turning opposites, the bliss that is

> experienced in response to enjoying the fruits of

> our own actions is transitory and ever fleeting. It

> is true (with a small " t " ) but it is not Real.

>

> Making a " buck " or profit off your confusion, is a

> product of a mind using it's power to gratify

> itself.

>

> Please forgive the simplicity of my response. As I

> have stated, I have no formal training nor have I

> been formally initiated into any spiritual path

> beyond the initiation of the heart which comes by

> the causeless mercy of my Ishta Devata Sri Lord

> Krishna.

>

> Hari Om,

>

> Ash

>

>

>

> pushpa <dalwanip

>

> Friday, June 8, 2007 12:49:44 AM

> Re: {LAYA-YOGA-CHAKRAS}>OM: Re: Himalaya

> Tirtha website in english

>

>

> Dear Aish,

>

> Since we are on the topic of siddhis etc,I must

> share

> this with you,it seems it has become a trend now,lot

> of ppl around us are able to get some chakra opened

> and conecntrate on any of yor chakras and taking you

> into memory lane all the time to keep you confused

> and

> busy in your ownself.

>

> CAn u tell me what cn be done about this

>

> Thanks

> --- Aishwarya <aishwarya_poudyal wrote:

>

> > Dear friend,

> >

> > I have had no interest whatsoever in siddhis, and

> > still do not. My knowlegde of them is purely

> > academic. My path is Bhakti. I have no formal

> > training in any practice, nor have I been initated

> > into any particular religious path yet. I have

> > joined this group out of pure interest in the

> > knowledge and to keep this mind always focused on

> > God or the Universal Consiousness behind, beyond

> and

> > within all appearances, at the end of the day when

> > my meditations, cooking, working, cleaning, taking

> > care of others in need--human and animal have been

> > completed. I also study jyotish for pure interest

> in

> > the subject, but have no qualifications as an

> > astrologer, nor any desire to acquire such

> > qualification. I have no special mantra. I am a

> > Reiki practitioner and use Ayurveda for healing

> > myself. I lead a solitary, yet quite mundane

> > existance. For fun, I visit and feel quite welcome

> > in a variety of churches, synogogues, temples,

> etc.

> >

> > I see no use for such abilities at all in this

> life,

> > if they cannot be used for pure loving service;

> > moreover, there is no need to fear them. I have

> no

> > desire for power over anyone nor have I ever had

> > such desires, period. Such concepts have been what

> > has kept me away from churches and other religious

> > places of worship in the past. I surrender myself

> to

> > God completely, chanting Holy Names throughout the

> > day. That's it. I am a servant with everything I

> do.

> > This is the perplexity. I have no need or desire

> for

> > such things and yet here they are. What to do? I

> > guess just accept them, and let them be.

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna friends,

> >

> > Ash

> >

> >

> > Linder Stan <stan810

> >

> > Thursday, June 7, 2007 2:29:23 AM

> > Re: {LAYA-YOGA-CHAKRAS}>OM: Re: Himalaya

> > Tirtha website in english

> >

> >

> > As a goad to practice, the thought of siddhis

> seems

> > good, but you will only get yourself into trouble

> if

> > you get them. You will become more focused on your

> > powers then then the goal of yoga. As for raising

> > Kundalini read some of works of the founder of the

> > Kundalini Research foundation. Just because you

> have

> > some Kundalini experinces does not mean you have

> the

> > full flower of Kundalini.

> >

> > Everything I've said above is my personal

> experince.

> > hths

> >

> > Stan810

> > --- pushpa <dalwanip wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Dear Aish,

>

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