{LAYA-YOGA-CHAKRAS} OM: Siddhis and Chakras....cont.

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Could you please expand on the vibratory nature of

mantra. How does one sense theses vibrations? How do

you know they are vibrations from your mantra?

 

Stan810

--- Aishwarya <aishwarya_poudyal wrote:

 

> Yes. Friend. Chakras need clearing and this is why I

> am on this list to learn about it. Desires arise

> time and again. Yes. I am familiar with what you

> describe. Though not all of what I have experienced

> within myself arising from the lower chakras would I

> call either wishes or desires. Some things just

> occur spontaneously and are not desired. They just

> happen. From where they come, I can only say that

> their source is above and beyond me; and yet, they

> are part of and within me. The source of these

> energies stir my bodily organs and I feel like a

> whirlwind carries me off into the sky like a leaf

> swept from the ground into the wind. Yes. One wants

> to isolate themselves and stay away from others,

> " not have people around you... " It is very unnerving

> and ungrounding. And, as you say, denying the

> existance of such momentary experiences as

> acceptable parts of myself/ourselves only leads to

> ruminating upon them; or the mind's constantly being

> pulled back toward's the

> thought/feeling until we feel we have to give in to

> them. And sometimes we do give into them. But, what

> I am really trying to describe is a process of

> acceptance prior to our identifying anything at all

> as a desire or non-desire. It is simply the

> awareness of something arising within...Beyond the

> world of maya, at the level of our very " being " we

> are non-different. Accepting, without judgement the

> experience, as part of what it means to be a

> spiritual entity within a human body has helped me;

> as well as remembering that the source of the

> awareness of the experiences of which you/I speak is

> beyond the limitations of the body. In this regard

> calling on my Ishta Devata from within with the use

> of mantra meditation is very helpful for me. Peace

> lies in accepting that all these experiences, all

> the various energies of the chakras, simply exist as

> part of this life of which something higher and

> greater is the source. Understanding the chakras is

> part of

> self-understanding--balancing the chakras is part

> of balancing the self, realizing the chakras is part

> of Self-realization. Without falling at the feet of

> that source within my heart, in all-humility, from

> which all these feelings have come, and remembering

> that source to be within, I am without any control

> at all over my responses such experiences. The

> mantra is a tool of re/membering God. Forgetting

> that, the mind simply bounces between acceptance and

> nonacceptance (denial) of the facts of what it means

> to live a human life.

>

> Kindly,

>

> Your friend,

>

> Ash

>

>

> pushpa <dalwanip

>

> Friday, June 8, 2007 10:10:03 PM

> Re: {LAYA-YOGA-CHAKRAS}>OM: Re: (Pushpa)

> Was, Himalaya Tirtha...Now, Siddhis

>

>

> Thanks my dear friend,

>

> You seem to talking from experience but as they say

> easier said than done for the past 7 years I have

> been

> trying to be on the above materialistic level and

> purely conscious level there is no life w.o. being

> able to clear the lower chakras until and unless the

> desires are fulfilled the wishes keep coming up and

> till you are not grounded you cant u'stand ppl aound

> you...so utter chaos in my mind...guide me if you

> find

> me confused..I think I have been locking myself up

> for

> the all these years so now I am really feeling the

> need to coomunicate with like-minded people who can

> u'stand me. I am sure there must be lots like me who

> will be guided by the right directions you give us.I

> would suggest if you give us even one step in a day

> to

> work on we all will be feeling better and than after

> a

> week we can commuincate how better we are feeling.

>

> Thanks

>

> --- Aishwarya <aishwarya_poudyal wrote:

>

> > Friend,

> >

> > The answer to your question is contained within

> the

> > question itself.

> >

> > " ...conecntrate on any of yor chakras and taking

> you

> > into memory lane all the time to keep you confused

> > and

> > busy in your ownself... "

> >

> > Your own self is the place where Self-Realization

> > begins. The journey starts when one begins to look

> > within and focus upon these chakras or other parts

> > of ourselves that we have fragmented, purifying

> them

> > and bringing them back into balance. In yogic

> > meditation, we use the mind, directing its

> > concentration toward the depths of true

> > Self-knowledge. Slowly, slowly our mind and ego

> self

> > surrender to become tools of the higher Self or

> > Universal Consciousness, God. Enlightenment is the

> > clear awareness or the state of awakenness of our

> > True Relationship to this higher Self or God

> > Consciousness. Where we tend to get stuck is in

> ego

> > driven desire.

> >

> > The mind is the grand computer or calculator. And,

> > it is also like a set of mirrors which face each

> > other reflecting eternity. But since these mirrors

> > face each other, the mind and ego mistake

> > itself--it's own reflection--for the peice of

> > eternity or Real Eternal Presence/Self within. The

> > mind is very fragile like the glass of a mirror

> and

> > it's strength is nearly untamable. Focused

> > concentration upon a mantra, fully surrendering

> the

> > mind to its vibration, is way a of taming it.

> > However, the mind is very tricky and subtle. It

> > desires, and lusts after the objects of the

> senses.

> > It desires nothing more nor nothing less than to

> be

> > the controller of these objects and Lord them. In

> > order to do this, it measures itself into a

> > psuedo-existence distinct from the material world.

> > It creates a self and other which are for the most

> > part diametrically opposed to one another. Why? To

> > Lord itself over the " other. " This is nothing more

> > than the " power worship " of the ego.

> >

> > The mind (again, like the set of mirrors which

> face

> > one another), when emptied, has the ability to

> > reflect it's own presence into infinity. The mind

> is

> > subtle, astral and material. The levels on which

> the

> > mind is able to operate and project itself are

> > extremely subtle and more than one. Remember, the

> > mind is the grand calculator and as such is the

> > master of addition, subtraction, multiplication

> and

> > division. Thus, one must do a thorough house

> > cleaning, or purify themselves, in order to

> > transcend the labrynth of the mind. On the lower

> > surface levels, one may believe that they are

> > surrendered to the higher Self within and that

> their

> > desires are purely directed toward union with the

> > Source beyond the mind, but at an ever deeper

> level,

> > if one is not ever cautious, ego centered,

> > selfishness may be present and thus ulterior

> motives

> > remain that are rooted in a will to power.

> >

> > The proper direction of the mind is toward

> > Self-Realization, not selfishness. Without fully

> > surrendering oneself, all actions are to some

> degree

> > selfishly motivated. How can one know whether one

> is

> > fully surrendered? Search the heart for any desire

> > to experience the fruits of your own actions. If

> any

> > such desire even at the most subtle level remains,

> > you are locked within the small self of ego

> > attachment and cannot yet propel beyond the

> > nastalgia of re-experiencing the bliss of yogic

> > meditation upon the chakras. It is through

> suffering

> > that God, Universal Consciousness or The Absolute

> > Truth enters us. Realization of this Self is the

> > ultimate bliss. Yet in the world of Maya, or pairs

> > of ever turning opposites, the bliss that is

> > experienced in response to enjoying the fruits of

> > our own actions is transitory and ever fleeting.

> It

> > is true (with a small " t " ) but it is not Real.

> >

> > Making a " buck " or profit off your confusion, is a

> > product of a mind using it's power to gratify

>

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Such vibrations are felt within the chakras for which the bija seeds are associated. While I am not studied in Tantra, I am familiar with their associations through a study of Jyotish. As above, so below. As without, so within. The manifestation of chakras coming into balance become apparent and are self-validating within one's experience.

 

Ash

Linder Stan <stan810 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 7:15:00 PMRe: {LAYA-YOGA-CHAKRAS}>OM: Re: Siddhis and Chakras....cont.

Could you please expand on the vibratory nature ofmantra. How does one sense theses vibrations? How doyou know they are vibrations from your mantra?Stan810--- Aishwarya <aishwarya_poudyal wrote:> Yes. Friend. Chakras need clearing and this is why I> am on this list to learn about it. Desires arise> time and again. Yes. I am familiar with what you> describe. Though not all of what I have experienced> within myself arising from the lower chakras would I> call either wishes or desires. Some things just> occur spontaneously and are not desired. They just> happen. From where they come, I can only say that> their source is above and beyond me; and yet, they> are part of and within me. The source of these> energies stir my bodily organs and I feel like a> whirlwind carries me off into the sky like a leaf> swept from the ground into the

wind. Yes. One wants> to isolate themselves and stay away from others,> "not have people around you..." It is very unnerving> and ungrounding. And, as you say, denying the> existance of such momentary experiences as> acceptable parts of myself/ourselves only leads to> ruminating upon them; or the mind's constantly being> pulled back toward's the> thought/feeling until we feel we have to give in to> them. And sometimes we do give into them. But, what> I am really trying to describe is a process of> acceptance prior to our identifying anything at all> as a desire or non-desire. It is simply the> awareness of something arising within...Beyond the> world of maya, at the level of our very "being" we> are non-different. Accepting, without judgement the> experience, as part of what it means to be a> spiritual entity within a human body has helped

me;> as well as remembering that the source of the> awareness of the experiences of which you/I speak is> beyond the limitations of the body. In this regard> calling on my Ishta Devata from within with the use> of mantra meditation is very helpful for me. Peace> lies in accepting that all these experiences, all> the various energies of the chakras, simply exist as> part of this life of which something higher and> greater is the source. Understanding the chakras is> part of> self-understanding--balancing the chakras is part> of balancing the self, realizing the chakras is part> of Self-realization. Without falling at the feet of> that source within my heart, in all-humility, from> which all these feelings have come, and remembering> that source to be within, I am without any control> at all over my responses such experiences.

The> mantra is a tool of re/membering God. Forgetting> that, the mind simply bounces between acceptance and> nonacceptance (denial) of the facts of what it means> to live a human life.> > Kindly,> > Your friend,> > Ash> > > pushpa <dalwanip> > Friday, June 8, 2007 10:10:03 PM> Re: {LAYA-YOGA-CHAKRAS}>OM: Re: (Pushpa)> Was, Himalaya Tirtha...Now, Siddhis> > > Thanks my dear friend,> > You seem to talking from experience but as they say> easier said than done for the past 7 years I have> been> trying to be on the above materialistic level and> purely conscious level there is no life w.o. being> able to clear the lower chakras until and unless the> desires are fulfilled

the wishes keep coming up and> till you are not grounded you cant u'stand ppl aound> you...so utter chaos in my mind...guide me if you> find> me confused..I think I have been locking myself up> for> the all these years so now I am really feeling the> need to coomunicate with like-minded people who can> u'stand me. I am sure there must be lots like me who> will be guided by the right directions you give us.I> would suggest if you give us even one step in a day> to> work on we all will be feeling better and than after> a> week we can commuincate how better we are feeling.> > Thanks> > --- Aishwarya <aishwarya_poudyal wrote:> > > Friend,> > > > The answer to your question is contained within> the> > question itself.> > > > "...conecntrate on any of yor

chakras and taking> you> > into memory lane all the time to keep you confused> > and> > busy in your ownself..."> > > > Your own self is the place where Self-Realization> > begins. The journey starts when one begins to look> > within and focus upon these chakras or other parts> > of ourselves that we have fragmented, purifying> them> > and bringing them back into balance. In yogic> > meditation, we use the mind, directing its> > concentration toward the depths of true> > Self-knowledge. Slowly, slowly our mind and ego> self> > surrender to become tools of the higher Self or> > Universal Consciousness, God. Enlightenment is the> > clear awareness or the state of awakenness of our> > True Relationship to this higher Self or God> > Consciousness. Where we tend to get stuck is in>

ego> > driven desire.> > > > The mind is the grand computer or calculator. And,> > it is also like a set of mirrors which face each> > other reflecting eternity. But since these mirrors> > face each other, the mind and ego mistake> > itself--it's own reflection--for the peice of> > eternity or Real Eternal Presence/Self within. The> > mind is very fragile like the glass of a mirror> and> > it's strength is nearly untamable. Focused> > concentration upon a mantra, fully surrendering> the> > mind to its vibration, is way a of taming it.> > However, the mind is very tricky and subtle. It> > desires, and lusts after the objects of the> senses.> > It desires nothing more nor nothing less than to> be> > the controller of these objects and Lord them. In> > order to do this, it measures

itself into a> > psuedo-existence distinct from the material world.> > It creates a self and other which are for the most> > part diametrically opposed to one another. Why? To> > Lord itself over the "other." This is nothing more> > than the "power worship" of the ego. > > > > The mind (again, like the set of mirrors which> face> > one another), when emptied, has the ability to> > reflect it's own presence into infinity. The mind> is> > subtle, astral and material. The levels on which> the> > mind is able to operate and project itself are> > extremely subtle and more than one. Remember, the> > mind is the grand calculator and as such is the> > master of addition, subtraction, multiplication> and> > division. Thus, one must do a thorough house> > cleaning, or purify themselves,

in order to> > transcend the labrynth of the mind. On the lower> > surface levels, one may believe that they are> > surrendered to the higher Self within and that> their> > desires are purely directed toward union with the> > Source beyond the mind, but at an ever deeper> level,> > if one is not ever cautious, ego centered,> > selfishness may be present and thus ulterior> motives> > remain that are rooted in a will to power.> > > > The proper direction of the mind is toward> > Self-Realization, not selfishness. Without fully> > surrendering oneself, all actions are to some> degree> > selfishly motivated. How can one know whether one> is> > fully surrendered? Search the heart for any desire> > to experience the fruits of your own actions. If> any> > such desire even at the

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One thing more,I regularly do sahaja,till the time I am on the

asana,Kundalini gets awakened but after a while as the day passes the

feeling goes,seems some part of kundalini goes down,specially near my

ears(even after I take bandhan).Pls suggest what to do!

 

 

 

 

, Tadeusz Majewski

<tadeusz.majewski wrote:

>

> Namaskar All,

>

> Chakras are in fact defining you as a living, instinctual being and

than

> as a human being and than as a spiritual being. Each of the chakras

> in essence is what we could call the main aspect or the core

> of yoga psychology or bio-psychology.

> Each chakra vibrates with its own root sound, but equally important

> with the sound of the vrtiis ( propensities ) assigned to each

petal.

> Please remember that in reality each lotus with a different number

> of petals is only the symbolical representation of each chakra and

> should not be taken literally. Also colors of each chakra is not

> what you will see in the most, commercially available publications.

> According to Tantric tradition, this knowledge is secret and should

> not be disclosed to anyone as some kind of " open source " .

> Everyone is able to learn it, after receiving diksha ( initiation )

from

> the Guru

> and should be protected as the most important treasurer of sadhaka's

> life. One of the oaths taken during initiation is the secrecy of

your

> meditation techniques, including very detailed information of the

chakras

> and their functions. What you read in 99% of the chakras dedicated

> books is of very superficial nature.

> There is many lessons in Tantra, related to chakras and their

purification

> For example six lessons of Sahaja Yoga and many more lessons

> of advance, Vishes Yoga. In the third lesson of Sahaj Yoga, called

> Tattva Dharana, we use the special, sanskrit mantras ( not only

commonly

> known Biija Seed Sound) As each chakra has its own vibrational

> characteristics of sound, form and color, the use of certain

techniques

> of concentration and use of root Mantras, brings a great degree of

> control upon the Chakras. These techniques also help one's power

of

> concentration, control of the activities of the Chakras and assist

in

> regulating energy flows in the body.

> In the fifth lesson of Sahaja Yoga, Chakra Shodhana, chakras are

the

> controlling

> points of mind, mental activities and the body. through a special

way of

> using

> Mantra, the Chakras are vibrated to bring about purification of

mind and

> body.

>

> In Vishes Yoga you are concentrated on each petal ( vrtii ) and

with

> that focus

> mind you are applying a unique Mantra for each petal ( vrtii )

>

> During awakening of the Kulakundalini, sadhaka will experience

different

> sounds

> ( Awakening itself will be experience by HUM ( M sound more like

NG )

> When kundalinii is passing through each chakra you will hear

different

> sounds.

>

> 1. Between Muladhara and Svadhisthana you will hear the sound of

the

> crickets

> with the feeling, that there is a Supreme Consciousness ( I exist,

He

> also exist )

> 2.. Between Svadhisthana and Manipura Chakra you will hear the

sound of

> the ankle bells and the feeling of close proximity with the Supreme

> Consciousness.

> ( He is very close to me, almost touching )

> 3. Between Manipura and Anahata you will hear the sound of the

flute and

> feeling

> of actual contact with the Supreme Consciousness ( I am in His

embrace )

> 4. Between Anahata and Vishuddha you will hear sound of the ringing

bell

> and you will experience the feeling that one's individual self has

> merged with the Supreme Consciousness. ( I and He are one )

> 5. Between Vishuddha and Ajina Chakra you will hear the sound of

an ocean

> and One's sense of " I " is no longer that of an individual ( I am

that

> Infinite Entity )

> 6. Between Ajina and Sahasrara Chakra you will hear or rather

experience

> the Cosmic Sound " OM " (AUM ) and " I " feeling completely

disappears.

>

> In Him,

>

> Trilokesh

> www.anandamarga.org

>

>

> ============================================================

>

>

> Aishwarya wrote:

>

> > Such vibrations are felt within the chakras for which the bija

seeds

> > are associated. While I am not studied in Tantra, I am familiar

with

> > their associations through a study of Jyotish. As above, so

below. As

> > without, so within. The manifestation of chakras coming into

balance

> > become apparent and are self-validating within one's experience.

> >

> > Ash

> >

> >

> > Linder Stan <stan810

> >

> > Wednesday, June 13, 2007 7:15:00 PM

> > Re: {LAYA-YOGA-CHAKRAS}>OM: Re: Siddhis and

Chakras....cont.

> >

> > Could you please expand on the vibratory nature of

> > mantra. How does one sense theses vibrations? How do

> > you know they are vibrations from your mantra?

> >

> > Stan810

> > --- Aishwarya <aishwarya_poudyal wrote:

> >

> > > Yes. Friend. Chakras need clearing and this is why I

> > > am on this list to learn about it. Desires arise

> > > time and again. Yes. I am familiar with what you

> > > describe. Though not all of what I have experienced

> > > within myself arising from the lower chakras would I

> > > call either wishes or desires. Some things just

> > > occur spontaneously and are not desired. They just

> > > happen. From where they come, I can only say that

> > > their source is above and beyond me; and yet, they

> > > are part of and within me. The source of these

> > > energies stir my bodily organs and I feel like a

> > > whirlwind carries me off into the sky like a leaf

> > > swept from the ground into the wind. Yes. One wants

> > > to isolate themselves and stay away from others,

> > > " not have people around you... " It is very unnerving

> > > and ungrounding. And, as you say, denying the

> > > existance of such momentary experiences as

> > > acceptable parts of myself/ourselves only leads to

> > > ruminating upon them; or the mind's constantly being

> > > pulled back toward's the

> > > thought/feeling until we feel we have to give in to

> > > them. And sometimes we do give into them. But, what

> > > I am really trying to describe is a process of

> > > acceptance prior to our identifying anything at all

> > > as a desire or non-desire. It is simply the

> > > awareness of something arising within...Beyond the

> > > world of maya, at the level of our very " being " we

> > > are non-different. Accepting, without judgement the

> > > experience, as part of what it means to be a

> > > spiritual entity within a human body has helped me;

> > > as well as remembering that the source of the

> > > awareness of the experiences of which you/I speak is

> > > beyond the limitations of the body. In this regard

> > > calling on my Ishta Devata from within with the use

> > > of mantra meditation is very helpful for me. Peace

> > > lies in accepting that all these experiences, all

> > > the various energies of the chakras, simply exist as

> > > part of this life of which something higher and

> > > greater is the source. Understanding the chakras is

> > > part of

> > > self-understanding--balancing the chakras is part

> > > of balancing the self, realizing the chakras is part

> > > of Self-realization. Without falling at the feet of

> > > that source within my heart, in all-humility, from

> > > which all these feelings have come, and remembering

> > > that source to be within, I am without any control

> > > at all over my responses such experiences. The

> > > mantra is a tool of re/membering God. Forgetting

> > > that, the mind simply bounces between acceptance and

> > > nonacceptance (denial) of the facts of what it means

> > > to live a human life.

> > >

> > > Kindly,

> > >

> > > Your friend,

> > >

> > > Ash

> > >

> > >

> > > pushpa <dalwanip

> > >

> > > Friday, June 8, 2007 10:10:03 PM

> > > Re: {LAYA-YOGA-CHAKRAS}>OM: Re: (Pushpa)

> > > Was, Himalaya Tirtha...Now, Siddhis

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks my dear friend,

> > >

> > > You seem to talking from experience but as they say

> > > easier said than done for the past 7 years I have

> > > been

> > > trying to be on the above materialistic level and

> > > purely conscious level there is no life w.o. being

> > > able to clear the lower chakras until and unless the

> > > desires are fulfilled the wishes keep coming up and

> > > till you are not grounded you cant u'stand ppl aound

> > > you...so utter chaos in my mind...guide me if you

> > > find

> > > me confused..I think I have been locking myself up

> > > for

> > > the all these years so now I am really feeling the

> > > need to coomunicate with like-minded people who can

> > > u'stand me. I am sure there must be lots like me who

> > > will be guided by the right directions you give us.I

> > > would suggest if you give us even one step in a day

> > > to

> > > work on we all will be feeling better and than after

> > > a

> > > week we can commuincate how better we are feeling.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > --- Aishwarya <aishwarya_poudyal wrote:

> > >

> > > > Friend,

> > > >

> > > > The answer to your question is contained within

> > > the

> > > > question itself.

> > > >

> > > > " ...conecntrate on any of yor chakras and taking

> > > you

> > > > into memory lane all the time to keep you confused

> > > > and

> > > > busy in your ownself... "

> > > >

> > > > Your own self is the place where Self-Realization

> > > > begins. The journey starts when one begins to look

> > > > within and focus upon these chakras or other parts

> > > > of ourselves that we have fragmented, purifying

> > > them

> > > > and bringing them back into balance. In yogic

> > > > meditation, we use the mind, directing its

> > > > concentration toward the depths of true

> > > > Self-knowledge. Slowly, slowly our mind and ego

> > > self

> > > > surrender to become tools of the higher Self or

> > > > Universal Consciousness, God. Enlightenment is the

> > > > clear awareness or the state of awakenness of our

> > > > True Relationship to this higher Self or God

> > > > Consciousness. Where we tend to get stuck is in

> > > ego

> > > > driven desire.

> > > >

> > > > The mind is the grand computer or calculator. And,

> > > > it is also like a set of mirrors which face each

> > > > other reflecting eternity. But since these mirrors

> > > > face each other, the mind and ego mistake

> > > > itself--it's own reflection--for the peice of

> > > > eternity or Real Eternal Presence/Self within. The

> > > > mind is very fragile like the glass of a mirror

> > > and

> > > > it's strength is nearly untamable. Focused

> > > > concentration upon a mantra, fully surrendering

> > > the

> > > > mind to its vibration, is way a of taming it.

> > > > However, the mind is very tricky and subtle. It

> > > > desires, and lusts after the objects of the

> > > senses.

> > > > It desires nothing more nor nothing less than to

> > > be

> > > > the controller of these objects and Lord them. In

> > > > order to do this, it measures itself into a

> > > > psuedo-existence distinct from the material world.

> > > > It creates a self and other which are for the most

> > > > part diametrically opposed to one another. Why? To

> > > > Lord itself over the " other. " This is nothing more

> > > > than the " power worship " of the ego.

> > > >

> > > > The mind (again, like the set of mirrors which

> > > face

> > > > one another), when emptied, has the ability to

> > > > reflect it's own presence into infinity. The mind

> > > is

> > > > subtle, astral and material. The levels on which

> > > the

> > > > mind is able to operate and project itself are

> > > > extremely subtle and more than one. Remember, the

> > > > mind is the grand calculator and as such is the

> > > > master of addition, subtraction, multiplication

> > > and

> > > > division. Thus, one must do a thorough house

> > > > cleaning, or purify themselves, in order to

> > > > transcend the labrynth of the mind. On the lower

> > > > surface levels, one may believe that they are

> > > > surrendered to the higher Self within and that

> > > their

> > > > desires are purely directed toward union with the

> > > > Source beyond the mind, but at an ever deeper

> > > level,

> > > > if one is not ever cautious, ego centered,

> > > > selfishness may be present and thus ulterior

> > > motives

> > > > remain that are rooted in a will to power.

> > > >

> > > > The proper direction of the mind is toward

> > > > Self-Realization, not selfishness. Without fully

> > > > surrendering oneself, all actions are to some

> > > degree

> > > > selfishly motivated. How can one know whether one

> > > is

> > > > fully surrendered? Search the heart for any desire

> > > > to experience the fruits of your own actions. If

> > > any

> > > > such desire even at the most subtle level remains,

> > > > you are locked within the small self of ego

> > > > attachment and cannot yet propel beyond the

> > > > nastalgia of re-experiencing the bliss of yogic

> > > > meditation upon the chakras. It is through

> > > suffering

> > > > that God, Universal Consciousness or The Absolute

> > > > Truth enters us. Realization of this Self is the

> > > > ultimate bliss. Yet in the world of Maya, or pairs

> > > > of ever turning opposites, the bliss that is

> > > > experienced in response to enjoying the fruits of

> > > > our own actions is transitory and ever fleeting.

> > > It

> > > > is true (with a small " t " ) but it is not Real.

> > > >

> > > > Making a " buck " or profit off your confusion, is a

> > > > product of a mind using it's power to gratify

> > >

> > === message truncated ===

> >

> >

> > The life of the flesh is in the blood.

> > Choose life that you may live.

> > Flee sexual sin!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > Teachings about CHAKRA system, for spiritual progress and healing.

> > OM NAMAH ¦HIVAAYA! MAHE¦HVARAAYA! NAMAH OM!

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Namaskar,

 

You need not to worrying.

Please surrender to Parama Brahma

and enjoy meditation. It is by His will

that kundalini is raising and it is by

His will that it goes down.

It is normal, until you are in this physical

form. Enjoy the moment.

I can give you one practical advice.

Do a lot of kiirtana and sing Siidha Mantra

" Baba Nam Kevalam "

This mantra will prolong your uplifting

experiences and will also help you in

any mental discomforts

 

Cheers,

 

In Him

 

Trilokesh

www.anandamarga.org

 

================================

 

dalwanip wrote:

One thing more,I regularly do sahaja,till the time I am on the

asana,Kundalini gets awakened but after a while as the day passes the

feeling goes,seems some part of kundalini goes down,specially near my

ears(even after I take bandhan).Pls suggest what to do!

 

,

Tadeusz Majewski

<tadeusz.majewski wrote:

>

> Namaskar All,

>

> Chakras are in fact defining you as a living, instinctual being and

 

than

> as a human being and than as a spiritual being. Each of the chakras

> in essence is what we could call the main aspect or the core

> of yoga psychology or bio-psychology.

> Each chakra vibrates with its own root sound, but equally important

> with the sound of the vrtiis ( propensities ) assigned to each

petal.

> Please remember that in reality each lotus with a different number

> of petals is only the symbolical representation of each chakra and

> should not be taken literally. Also colors of each chakra is not

> what you will see in the most, commercially available publications.

> According to Tantric tradition, this knowledge is secret and should

> not be disclosed to anyone as some kind of "open source".

> Everyone is able to learn it, after receiving diksha ( initiation )

 

from

> the Guru

> and should be protected as the most important treasurer of sadhaka's

> life. One of the oaths taken during initiation is the secrecy of

your

> meditation techniques, including very detailed information of the

chakras

> and their functions. What you read in 99% of the chakras dedicated

> books is of very superficial nature.

> There is many lessons in Tantra, related to chakras and their

purification

> For example six lessons of Sahaja Yoga and many more lessons

> of advance, Vishes Yoga. In the third lesson of Sahaj Yoga, called

 

> Tattva Dharana, we use the special, sanskrit mantras ( not only

commonly

> known Biija Seed Sound) As each chakra has its own vibrational

> characteristics of sound, form and color, the use of certain

techniques

> of concentration and use of root Mantras, brings a great degree of

 

> control upon the Chakras. These techniques also help one's power

of

> concentration, control of the activities of the Chakras and assist

 

in

> regulating energy flows in the body.

> In the fifth lesson of Sahaja Yoga, Chakra Shodhana, chakras are

the

> controlling

> points of mind, mental activities and the body. through a special

way of

> using

> Mantra, the Chakras are vibrated to bring about purification of

mind and

> body.

>

> In Vishes Yoga you are concentrated on each petal ( vrtii ) and

with

> that focus

> mind you are applying a unique Mantra for each petal ( vrtii )

>

> During awakening of the Kulakundalini, sadhaka will experience

different

> sounds

> ( Awakening itself will be experience by HUM ( M sound more like

 

NG )

> When kundalinii is passing through each chakra you will hear

different

> sounds.

>

> 1. Between Muladhara and Svadhisthana you will hear the sound of

the

> crickets

> with the feeling, that there is a Supreme Consciousness ( I exist,

 

He

> also exist )

> 2.. Between Svadhisthana and Manipura Chakra you will hear the

sound of

> the ankle bells and the feeling of close proximity with the Supreme

 

> Consciousness.

> ( He is very close to me, almost touching )

> 3. Between Manipura and Anahata you will hear the sound of the

flute and

> feeling

> of actual contact with the Supreme Consciousness ( I am in His

embrace )

> 4. Between Anahata and Vishuddha you will hear sound of the ringing

 

bell

> and you will experience the feeling that one's individual self has

 

> merged with the Supreme Consciousness. ( I and He are one )

> 5. Between Vishuddha and Ajina Chakra you will hear the sound of

an ocean

> and One's sense of "I" is no longer that of an individual ( I am

that

> Infinite Entity )

> 6. Between Ajina and Sahasrara Chakra you will hear or rather

experience

> the Cosmic Sound " OM " (AUM ) and " I " feeling completely

disappears.

>

> In Him,

>

> Trilokesh

> www.anandamarga.org

>

>

> ============================================================

>

>

> Aishwarya wrote:

>

> > Such vibrations are felt within the chakras for which the bija

 

seeds

> > are associated. While I am not studied in Tantra, I am familiar

 

with

> > their associations through a study of Jyotish. As above, so

below. As

> > without, so within. The manifestation of chakras coming into

balance

> > become apparent and are self-validating within one's experience.

> >

> > Ash

> >

> >

> > Linder Stan <stan810

> >

> > Wednesday, June 13, 2007 7:15:00 PM

> > Re: {LAYA-YOGA-CHAKRAS}>OM: Re: Siddhis and

Chakras....cont.

> >

> > Could you please expand on the vibratory nature of

> > mantra. How does one sense theses vibrations? How do

> > you know they are vibrations from your mantra?

> >

> > Stan810

> > --- Aishwarya <aishwarya_poudyal wrote:

> >

> > > Yes. Friend. Chakras need clearing and this is why I

> > > am on this list to learn about it. Desires arise

> > > time and again. Yes. I am familiar with what you

> > > describe. Though not all of what I have experienced

> > > within myself arising from the lower chakras would I

> > > call either wishes or desires. Some things just

> > > occur spontaneously and are not desired. They just

> > > happen. From where they come, I can only say that

> > > their source is above and beyond me; and yet, they

> > > are part of and within me. The source of these

> > > energies stir my bodily organs and I feel like a

> > > whirlwind carries me off into the sky like a leaf

> > > swept from the ground into the wind. Yes. One wants

> > > to isolate themselves and stay away from others,

> > > "not have people around you..." It is very unnerving

> > > and ungrounding. And, as you say, denying the

> > > existance of such momentary experiences as

> > > acceptable parts of myself/ourselves only leads to

> > > ruminating upon them; or the mind's constantly being

> > > pulled back toward's the

> > > thought/feeling until we feel we have to give in to

> > > them. And sometimes we do give into them. But, what

> > > I am really trying to describe is a process of

> > > acceptance prior to our identifying anything at all

> > > as a desire or non-desire. It is simply the

> > > awareness of something arising within...Beyond the

> > > world of maya, at the level of our very "being" we

> > > are non-different. Accepting, without judgement the

> > > experience, as part of what it means to be a

> > > spiritual entity within a human body has helped me;

> > > as well as remembering that the source of the

> > > awareness of the experiences of which you/I speak is

> > > beyond the limitations of the body. In this regard

> > > calling on my Ishta Devata from within with the use

> > > of mantra meditation is very helpful for me. Peace

> > > lies in accepting that all these experiences, all

> > > the various energies of the chakras, simply exist as

> > > part of this life of which something higher and

> > > greater is the source. Understanding the chakras is

> > > part of

> > > self-understanding--balancing the chakras is part

> > > of balancing the self, realizing the chakras is part

> > > of Self-realization. Without falling at the feet of

> > > that source within my heart, in all-humility, from

> > > which all these feelings have come, and remembering

> > > that source to be within, I am without any control

> > > at all over my responses such experiences. The

> > > mantra is a tool of re/membering God. Forgetting

> > > that, the mind simply bounces between acceptance and

> > > nonacceptance (denial) of the facts of what it means

> > > to live a human life.

> > >

> > > Kindly,

> > >

> > > Your friend,

> > >

> > > Ash

> > >

> > >

> > > pushpa <dalwanip

> > >

> > > Friday, June 8, 2007 10:10:03 PM

> > > Re: {LAYA-YOGA-CHAKRAS}>OM: Re: (Pushpa)

> > > Was, Himalaya Tirtha...Now, Siddhis

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks my dear friend,

> > >

> > > You seem to talking from experience but as they say

> > > easier said than done for the past 7 years I have

> > > been

> > > trying to be on the above materialistic level and

> > > purely conscious level there is no life w.o. being

> > > able to clear the lower chakras until and unless the

> > > desires are fulfilled the wishes keep coming up and

> > > till you are not grounded you cant u'stand ppl aound

> > > you...so utter chaos in my mind...guide me if you

> > > find

> > > me confused..I think I have been locking myself up

> > > for

> > > the all these years so now I am really feeling the

> > > need to coomunicate with like-minded people who can

> > > u'stand me. I am sure there must be lots like me who

> > > will be guided by the right directions you give us.I

> > > would suggest if you give us even one step in a day

> > > to

> > > work on we all will be feeling better and than after

> > > a

> > > week we can commuincate how better we are feeling.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > --- Aishwarya <aishwarya_poudyal wrote:

> > >

> > > > Friend,

> > > >

> > > > The answer to your question is contained within

> > > the

> > > > question itself.

> > > >

> > > > "...conecntrate on any of yor chakras and taking

> > > you

> > > > into memory lane all the time to keep you confused

> > > > and

> > > > busy in your ownself..."

> > > >

> > > > Your own self is the place where Self-Realization

> > > > begins. The journey starts when one begins to look

> > > > within and focus upon these chakras or other parts

> > > > of ourselves that we have fragmented, purifying

> > > them

> > > > and bringing them back into balance. In yogic

> > > > meditation, we use the mind, directing its

> > > > concentration toward the depths of true

> > > > Self-knowledge. Slowly, slowly our mind and ego

> > > self

> > > > surrender to become tools of the higher Self or

> > > > Universal Consciousness, God. Enlightenment is the

> > > > clear awareness or the state of awakenness of our

> > > > True Relationship to this higher Self or God

> > > > Consciousness. Where we tend to get stuck is in

> > > ego

> > > > driven desire.

> > > >

> > > > The mind is the grand computer or calculator. And,

> > > > it is also like a set of mirrors which face each

> > > > other reflecting eternity. But since these mirrors

> > > > face each other, the mind and ego mistake

> > > > itself--it's own reflection--for the peice of

> > > > eternity or Real Eternal Presence/Self within. The

> > > > mind is very fragile like the glass of a mirror

> > > and

> > > > it's strength is nearly untamable. Focused

> > > > concentration upon a mantra, fully surrendering

> > > the

> > > > mind to its vibration, is way a of taming it.

> > > > However, the mind is very tricky and subtle. It

> > > > desires, and lusts after the objects of the

> > > senses.

> > > > It desires nothing more nor nothing less than to

> > > be

> > > > the controller of these objects and Lord them. In

> > > > order to do this, it measures itself into a

> > > > psuedo-existence distinct from the material world.

> > > > It creates a self and other which are for the most

> > > > part diametrically opposed to one another. Why? To

> > > > Lord itself over the "other." This is nothing more

> > > > than the "power worship" of the ego.

> > > >

> > > > The mind (again, like the set of mirrors which

> > > face

> > > > one another), when emptied, has the ability to

> > > > reflect it's own presence into infinity. The mind

> > > is

> > > > subtle, astral and material. The levels on which

> > > the

> > > > mind is able to operate and project itself are

> > > > extremely subtle and more than one. Remember, the

> > > > mind is the grand calculator and as such is the

> > > > master of addition, subtraction, multiplication

> > > and

> > > > division. Thus, one must do a thorough house

> > > > cleaning, or purify themselves, in order to

> > > > transcend the labrynth of the mind. On the lower

> > > > surface levels, one may believe that they are

> > > > surrendered to the higher Self within and that

> > > their

> > > > desires are purely directed toward union with the

> > > > Source beyond the mind, but at an ever deeper

> > > level,

> > > > if one is not ever cautious, ego centered,

> > > > selfishness may be present and thus ulterior

> > > motives

> > > > remain that are rooted in a will to power.

> > > >

> > > > The proper direction of the mind is toward

> > > > Self-Realization, not selfishness. Without fully

> > > > surrendering oneself, all actions are to some

> > > degree

> > > > selfishly motivated. How can one know whether one

> > > is

> > > > fully surrendered? Search the heart for any desire

> > > > to experience the fruits of your own actions. If

> > > any

> > > > such desire even at the most subtle level remains,

> > > > you are locked within the small self of ego

> > > > attachment and cannot yet propel beyond the

> > > > nastalgia of re-experiencing the bliss of yogic

> > > > meditation upon the chakras. It is through

> > > suffering

> > > > that God, Universal Consciousness or The Absolute

> > > > Truth enters us. Realization of this Self is the

> > > > ultimate bliss. Yet in the world of Maya, or pairs

> > > > of ever turning opposites, the bliss that is

> > > > experienced in response to enjoying the fruits of

> > > > our own actions is transitory and ever fleeting.

> > > It

> > > > is true (with a small "t") but it is not Real.

> > > >

> > > > Making a "buck" or profit off your confusion, is a

> > > > product of a mind using it's power to gratify

> > >

> > === message truncated ===

> >

> >

> > The life of the flesh is in the blood.

> > Choose life that you may live.

> > Flee sexual sin!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > LAYA-YOGA-CHAKRAS-TANTRA-VEDA-AYURVEDA-SHIVA-DEVI-SPIRITUALITY-

KALI-DURGA...

> > This group is for those interested in Laya Yoga, Tantra and

Ancient

> > Teachings about CHAKRA system, for spiritual progress and healing.

> > OM NAMAH ¦HIVAAYA! MAHE¦HVARAAYA! NAMAH OM!

> > Om Mahaa-Kundalinyai Namah!

> > -----------

> > Remember! Year 2006 is year 5108 of Krishna (Kali Yuga) Kala!!!

 

On the

> > 22nd of December Sun enters into Capricorn (Uttarayana Samkranti)

 

and

> > Esoterical New Year Starts!

> > -----------

> >

[Guest guest]

Sent ya Reiki. Wishing you all the best, friend.

 

Ash

pushpa <dalwanip Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 1:44:21 AMRe: {LAYA-YOGA-CHAKRAS}>OM: Re: Siddhis and Chakras....cont.

Thanks dear,For the wonderful reply.But we seem still on differentwavelengths.I think as you have been trying to u'stand things fromexperience and reading.My experience has been slightlydifferent.But seems I am u'standing the prob.Thanks to theperson who sent us the divinity thru sex links.Lot ofppl around us follow that cult and think themselvesvery highly spritual ppl and to flaunt their so-calledacquired energies,they use these on you w.o. asking orletting you know about it,Obviously,lot of hypnotismis involved in it and you land up getting more intolower worlds then reaching any kind of spiritualgrowth.Now my question is...what is the solution,should I gofor reiki treatment,That will help or anything elsecan be done too.And are you in Delhi?Regardsfriend--- Aishwarya <aishwarya_poudyal wrote:> Yes. Friend. Chakras need clearing and this is

why I> am on this list to learn about it. Desires arise> time and again. Yes. I am familiar with what you> describe. Though not all of what I have experienced> within myself arising from the lower chakras would I> call either wishes or desires. Some things just> occur spontaneously and are not desired. They just> happen. From where they come, I can only say that> their source is above and beyond me; and yet, they> are part of and within me. The source of these> energies stir my bodily organs and I feel like a> whirlwind carries me off into the sky like a leaf> swept from the ground into the wind. Yes. One wants> to isolate themselves and stay away from others,> "not have people around you..." It is very unnerving> and ungrounding. And, as you say, denying the> existance of such momentary experiences as> acceptable parts of myself/ourselves only

leads to> ruminating upon them; or the mind's constantly being> pulled back toward's the> thought/feeling until we feel we have to give in to> them. And sometimes we do give into them. But, what> I am really trying to describe is a process of> acceptance prior to our identifying anything at all> as a desire or non-desire. It is simply the> awareness of something arising within...Beyond the> world of maya, at the level of our very "being" we> are non-different. Accepting, without judgement the> experience, as part of what it means to be a> spiritual entity within a human body has helped me;> as well as remembering that the source of the> awareness of the experiences of which you/I speak is> beyond the limitations of the body. In this regard> calling on my Ishta Devata from within with the use> of mantra meditation is very helpful for

me. Peace> lies in accepting that all these experiences, all> the various energies of the chakras, simply exist as> part of this life of which something higher and> greater is the source. Understanding the chakras is> part of> self-understanding--balancing the chakras is part> of balancing the self, realizing the chakras is part> of Self-realization. Without falling at the feet of> that source within my heart, in all-humility, from> which all these feelings have come, and remembering> that source to be within, I am without any control> at all over my responses such experiences. The> mantra is a tool of re/membering God. Forgetting> that, the mind simply bounces between acceptance and> nonacceptance (denial) of the facts of what it means> to live a human life.> > Kindly,> > Your friend,> > Ash> >

> pushpa <dalwanip> > Friday, June 8, 2007 10:10:03 PM> Re: {LAYA-YOGA-CHAKRAS}>OM: Re: (Pushpa)> Was, Himalaya Tirtha...Now, Siddhis> > > Thanks my dear friend,> > You seem to talking from experience but as they say> easier said than done for the past 7 years I have> been> trying to be on the above materialistic level and> purely conscious level there is no life w.o. being> able to clear the lower chakras until and unless the> desires are fulfilled the wishes keep coming up and> till you are not grounded you cant u'stand ppl aound> you...so utter chaos in my mind...guide me if you> find> me confused..I think I have been locking myself up> for> the all these years so now I am really feeling the> need to

coomunicate with like-minded people who can> u'stand me. I am sure there must be lots like me who> will be guided by the right directions you give us.I> would suggest if you give us even one step in a day> to> work on we all will be feeling better and than after> a> week we can commuincate how better we are feeling.> > Thanks> > --- Aishwarya <aishwarya_poudyal wrote:> > > Friend,> > > > The answer to your question is contained within> the> > question itself.> > > > "...conecntrate on any of yor chakras and taking> you> > into memory lane all the time to keep you confused> > and> > busy in your ownself..."> > > > Your own self is the place where Self-Realization> > begins. The journey starts when one begins to look> >

within and focus upon these chakras or other parts> > of ourselves that we have fragmented, purifying> them> > and bringing them back into balance. In yogic> > meditation, we use the mind, directing its> > concentration toward the depths of true> > Self-knowledge. Slowly, slowly our mind and ego> self> > surrender to become tools of the higher Self or> > Universal Consciousness, God. Enlightenment is the> > clear awareness or the state of awakenness of our> > True Relationship to this higher Self or God> > Consciousness. Where we tend to get stuck is in> ego> > driven desire.> > > > The mind is the grand computer or calculator. And,> > it is also like a set of mirrors which face each> > other reflecting eternity. But since these mirrors> > face each other, the mind and ego mistake> >

itself--it's own reflection--for the peice of> > eternity or Real Eternal Presence/Self within. The> > mind is very fragile like the glass of a mirror> and> > it's strength is nearly untamable. Focused> > concentration upon a mantra, fully surrendering> the> > mind to its vibration, is way a of taming it.> > However, the mind is very tricky and subtle. It> > desires, and lusts after the objects of the> senses.> > It desires nothing more nor nothing less than to> be> > the controller of these objects and Lord them. In> > order to do this, it measures itself into a> > psuedo-existence distinct from the material world.> > It creates a self and other which are for the most> > part diametrically opposed to one another. Why? To> > Lord itself over the "other." This is nothing more> > than the "power

worship" of the ego. > > > > The mind (again, like the set of mirrors which> face> > one another), when emptied, has the ability to> > reflect it's own presence into infinity. The mind> is> > subtle, astral and material. The levels on which> the> > mind is able to operate and project itself are> > extremely subtle and more than one. Remember, the> > mind is the grand calculator and as such is the> > master of addition, subtraction, multiplication> and> > division. Thus, one must do a thorough house> > cleaning, or purify themselves, in order to> > transcend the labrynth of the mind. On the lower> > surface levels, one may believe that they are> > surrendered to the higher Self within and that> their> > desires are purely directed toward union with the> > Source beyond

the mind, but at an ever deeper> level,> > if one is not ever cautious, ego centered,> > selfishness may be present and thus ulterior> motives> > remain that are rooted in a will to power.> > > > The proper direction of the mind is toward> > Self-Realization, not selfishness. Without fully> > surrendering oneself, all actions are to some> degree> > selfishly motivated. How can one know whether one> is> > fully surrendered? Search the heart for any desire> > to experience the fruits of your own actions. If> any> > such desire even at the most subtle level remains,> > you are locked within the small self of ego> > attachment and cannot yet propel beyond the> > nastalgia of re-experiencing the bliss of yogic> > meditation upon the chakras. It is through> suffering> > that God,

Universal Consciousness or The Absolute> > Truth enters us. Realization of this Self is the> > ultimate bliss. Yet in the world of Maya, or pairs> > of ever turning opposites, the bliss that is> > experienced in response to enjoying the fruits of> > our own actions is transitory and ever fleeting.> It> > is true (with a small "t") but it is not Real.> > > > Making a "buck" or profit off your confusion, is a> > product of a mind using it's power to gratify> === message truncated ===Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.http://farechase./promo-generic-14795097----------SUBJECTS ON OUR GROUP:Enlightement - Soul Liberation - Meditations - Divinity!LAYA-YOGA-CHAKRAS-TANTRA-VEDA-AYURVEDA-SHIVA-DEVI-SPIRITUALITY-KALI-DURGA...This group is for those interested in Laya Yoga, Tantra and Ancient Teachings about CHAKRA system, for spiritual progress and healing.OM NAMAH ¦HIVAAYA! MAHE¦HVARAAYA! NAMAH OM! Om Mahaa-Kundalinyai Namah!-----------Remember! Year 2006 is year 5108 of Krishna (Kali Yuga) Kala!!! On the 22nd of December Sun enters into Capricorn (Uttarayana Samkranti) and Esoterical New Year Starts!--------------------

[Guest guest]

I received it,very pleasant feeling Thanks

 

But now I have now come across this new world the

World of Mars...The Mars Records.com

 

Its really interesting to see how the world is

changing and how the normal human being is reacting to

it and how each one of us needs to come together and

work on these forces around us

 

 

Thanks

Pushpa

--- Aishwarya <aishwarya_poudyal wrote:

 

> Sent ya Reiki. Wishing you all the best, friend.

>

> Ash

>

>

>

> pushpa <dalwanip

>

> Wednesday, June 13, 2007 1:44:21 AM

> Re: {LAYA-YOGA-CHAKRAS}>OM: Re: Siddhis and

> Chakras....cont.

>

>

> Thanks dear,

>

> For the wonderful reply.But we seem still on

> different

> wavelengths.

>

> I think as you have been trying to u'stand things

> from

> experience and reading.My experience has been

> slightly

> different.

>

> But seems I am u'standing the prob.Thanks to the

> person who sent us the divinity thru sex links.Lot

> of

> ppl around us follow that cult and think themselves

> very highly spritual ppl and to flaunt their

> so-called

> acquired energies,they use these on you w.o. asking

> or

> letting you know about it,Obviously,lot of hypnotism

> is involved in it and you land up getting more into

> lower worlds then reaching any kind of spiritual

> growth.

>

> Now my question is...what is the solution,should I

> go

> for reiki treatment,That will help or anything else

> can be done too.And are you in Delhi?

>

> Regards

> friend

> --- Aishwarya <aishwarya_poudyal wrote:

>

> > Yes. Friend. Chakras need clearing and this is why

> I

> > am on this list to learn about it. Desires arise

> > time and again. Yes. I am familiar with what you

> > describe. Though not all of what I have

> experienced

> > within myself arising from the lower chakras would

> I

> > call either wishes or desires. Some things just

> > occur spontaneously and are not desired. They

> just

> > happen. From where they come, I can only say that

> > their source is above and beyond me; and yet, they

> > are part of and within me. The source of these

> > energies stir my bodily organs and I feel like a

> > whirlwind carries me off into the sky like a leaf

> > swept from the ground into the wind. Yes. One

> wants

> > to isolate themselves and stay away from others,

> > " not have people around you... " It is very

> unnerving

> > and ungrounding. And, as you say, denying the

> > existance of such momentary experiences as

> > acceptable parts of myself/ourselves only leads to

> > ruminating upon them; or the mind's constantly

> being

> > pulled back toward's the

> > thought/feeling until we feel we have to give in

> to

> > them. And sometimes we do give into them. But,

> what

> > I am really trying to describe is a process of

> > acceptance prior to our identifying anything at

> all

> > as a desire or non-desire. It is simply the

> > awareness of something arising within...Beyond the

> > world of maya, at the level of our very " being " we

> > are non-different. Accepting, without judgement

> the

> > experience, as part of what it means to be a

> > spiritual entity within a human body has helped

> me;

> > as well as remembering that the source of the

> > awareness of the experiences of which you/I speak

> is

> > beyond the limitations of the body. In this

> regard

> > calling on my Ishta Devata from within with the

> use

> > of mantra meditation is very helpful for me. Peace

> > lies in accepting that all these experiences, all

> > the various energies of the chakras, simply exist

> as

> > part of this life of which something higher and

> > greater is the source. Understanding the chakras

> is

> > part of

> > self-understanding--balancing the chakras is part

> > of balancing the self, realizing the chakras is

> part

> > of Self-realization. Without falling at the feet

> of

> > that source within my heart, in all-humility, from

> > which all these feelings have come, and

> remembering

> > that source to be within, I am without any control

> > at all over my responses such experiences. The

> > mantra is a tool of re/membering God. Forgetting

> > that, the mind simply bounces between acceptance

> and

> > nonacceptance (denial) of the facts of what it

> means

> > to live a human life.

> >

> > Kindly,

> >

> > Your friend,

> >

> > Ash

> >

> >

> > pushpa <dalwanip

> >

> > Friday, June 8, 2007 10:10:03 PM

> > Re: {LAYA-YOGA-CHAKRAS}>OM: Re: (Pushpa)

> > Was, Himalaya Tirtha...Now, Siddhis

> >

> >

> > Thanks my dear friend,

> >

> > You seem to talking from experience but as they

> say

> > easier said than done for the past 7 years I have

> > been

> > trying to be on the above materialistic level and

> > purely conscious level there is no life w.o. being

> > able to clear the lower chakras until and unless

> the

> > desires are fulfilled the wishes keep coming up

> and

> > till you are not grounded you cant u'stand ppl

> aound

> > you...so utter chaos in my mind...guide me if you

> > find

> > me confused..I think I have been locking myself up

> > for

> > the all these years so now I am really feeling the

> > need to coomunicate with like-minded people who

> can

> > u'stand me. I am sure there must be lots like me

> who

> > will be guided by the right directions you give

> us.I

> > would suggest if you give us even one step in a

> day

> > to

> > work on we all will be feeling better and than

> after

> > a

> > week we can commuincate how better we are feeling.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > --- Aishwarya <aishwarya_poudyal wrote:

> >

> > > Friend,

> > >

> > > The answer to your question is contained within

> > the

> > > question itself.

> > >

> > > " ...conecntrate on any of yor chakras and taking

> > you

> > > into memory lane all the time to keep you

> confused

> > > and

> > > busy in your ownself... "

> > >

> > > Your own self is the place where

> Self-Realization

> > > begins. The journey starts when one begins to

> look

> > > within and focus upon these chakras or other

> parts

> > > of ourselves that we have fragmented, purifying

> > them

> > > and bringing them back into balance. In yogic

> > > meditation, we use the mind, directing its

> > > concentration toward the depths of true

> > > Self-knowledge. Slowly, slowly our mind and ego

> > self

> > > surrender to become tools of the higher Self or

> > > Universal Consciousness, God. Enlightenment is

> the

>

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