Who is The Self

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Who is The Self

 

b: Namaste

 

sadhu: Namaste

 

b: how do i have your ID my friend?>

 

sadhu: ahhh actually I had emailed you once with regards to

meditation

 

b: oh i see

 

sadhu: I have been a lot on your site

 

b: i see has the information been useful to you? you may like the new

files here also --->

http://groups.msn.com/AnantaYogaSchool/satsang.msnw

 

sadhu: can you help me?

 

b: With what would you like help.

 

sadhu: Vijnana Bhairav Tantra?

 

b: ah! yes... which part of Bhairava tantra dear?

 

sadhu: well to begin with, I used to mediate with the dharana that I

am enclosed with a skin & void inside. Then a miracle happened

 

b: uhuh. Please tell.

 

sadhu: I got a vision, where I was running down a building & A male

voice comanding 'NOTHING IS TO BE DONE, NOTHING IS TO BE OBSERVED' I

woke up next.

 

b: Yes.... Dear might i ask your age?

 

sadhu: 25, I am living in Kuwait.

 

b: mmm .. you have indian back-ground?

 

sadhu: I am an indian, yes.

 

b: mm Do you have a copy of the vijnana-bhairava?

 

sadhu: yes.

 

b: here is a link to it also -->

b:

http://www.upnaway.com/~bindu/anantayogaweb/vijnanabhairava/vijnanabha

irava.html.

 

sadhu: I tried to meditate on with a thoughtless mind, thinking

nothing.... but then I succeeded for 3 days

 

b: and then what happened?

 

sadhu: on the 4th day I had a big fight @ work & lost my abiliy to

meditate and be still.

 

b: ah! have you regained it?

 

sadhu: Ahhh not to the extent I used to have. Before I would just sit

& do into a silence land. Now I must push my cart

 

b: i see. Who is this " i " to whom someone inside you referrs?

 

sadhu: I is the ego, matted with the 3 malas of limitation that is

Identical to Shiva or Parabrahma.

 

b: Yes, Jiva identical but he has forgotten it. The moment that he

thinks he is " i " (i.e. when he identifies with Jiva " AS " self) He

limits Himself in both will and efficacy.

 

sadhu: yes exactly.

 

b: the reoosn this occurs is due to the fact that THE SELF IN ALL IS

HIM... this means the Jiva has no self-nature of HIS OWN. So then who

has to push a cart? Who is pushed by whom in WHAT?

 

sadhu: It is He, who pushes the cart; the cart & the terrain is HE

Himself.

 

b: Yes so then what has that got to do with YOU? If He wishes to push

a cart let Him and ignore it.

 

b: For example: In your MIND He says: " ME " ! He Says: " i " ! HE says i

am .. (your name goes here).

 

b: YOU DO NOT SAY A THING! in fact you cannot say a thing; HE SAYS IT

ALL IN ALL BEINGS!

 

sadhu: True, even hHe is reading what He is typing now.

 

b: Yes, so then why do you worry about YOU? So then what is wrong

with YOU? Who are you? You are no one.

 

sadhu: Yes..... exactly; but there is one problem.

 

b: What is that problem ?

 

sadhu: This itself cannot make me into Him right? I cannot become him

under my own power (this " me " cannot make " me Hm. I cannot rea;iaze

Him.) but that's my ego.

 

b: dDear one what is your name?

 

sadhu: My ego is called Gaurish.

 

b: Garish since HE is ALL and is the SELF IN ALL... how can you who

do not exist realize HIM?

 

b: For example if you are sitting in the desert and there is nothing

there, not even your existence what can you give since you have no

self who can give up anything? To give up thinking you are Jiva is

your only alternative.

 

b: HE IS THINKING that HE is THINKING " AS " YOU; YOU DO NOT THINK OR

KNOW ANYTHING! Oh Dear Self, think only of who you are

stop thinking and subscribing to being Jiva.

 

sadhu: ok.

 

b: Are you seeing what this means?

 

sadhu: i am HIM equation right?

 

b: NO you ARE NOT HIM. because when we say " i " it is NOT US who is

saying it....<<< this means HE IS YOU ... but you are not him.....

<<< THE YOU is the Jiva see? He SAYS IT in all minds in all beings!

No one else is there to say it you see?

 

sadhu: yes, I get it.

 

b: sSo then what problem is in the SELF? The problem is the

subsription to the idea that The Jiva is the self.

 

sadhu: yes.

 

b: Jiva is merely HIS reflection IN HIS own being

 

sadhu: The false notion.

 

b: Yes. So then all the Jeeva are his modes of being.. just as Siva

Sutra Says " HE is FREE IN ALL the MODES of HIS own consciousness.

This means the existence is HIS consciousness; i.e. it is the

ParamAtma. It (existence) is HIS body; it is Bhairava!

 

sadhu: yes, right!

 

b: HE IN HIMSELF (not his consciousNESS) is conscious << THIS means

HE is in HIS own transcendental nature and is conscious WITHOUT and

prior to HIS CONSCIOUSNESS.. thus HE is The ParaBrahman also Om Tat

Sat!

 

 

sadhu: correct!

 

b: SO, who has any problem? Only the mistaken idea that the

reflection......IS SELF

 

sadhu: hmm...but 'i' still need to break from the shackles right?

 

b: So then Garish, that reflection of HIM in HIMSELF is HIS prakrti

existing as the light shining on HIS Vimarsha flashing with light and

consciousness; thus all things exist in HIM and HE SHINES " AS "

existence\light\love -- consciousness and is Satchitananda! He

vibrates as the Spanda Sakti ... He does not act to create, his

iicchaa-sakti (the power of his WILL ) causes existence because that

is HIS NATURE and being Om Tat Sat!

 

sadhu: Correct, so how does an 'Anu' do the upaya to

realise 'Bhairava'? Theory is not just sufficent right?

 

b: The anu cannot do u-paya...when anu realizes that it is HE who is

doing it... then he does not do any upaya he sees that he should only

meditate upon THE SELF INSIDE HIMSELF ... not upon what he can do

thru either action or sadhana.

the previous sadhana.s and such things as asanas and pranayama's only

got him ready to hold the Will on the Self within himself. All other

sadhanas require the body or the Jiva ... So at this point he goes

beyond the body... not by going outside it or expanding the ability

of the body ... but by going inward until he is existing prior to the

jiva-consciousness; i.e. he goes to the point where the words " i am "

arise and the mind is born...i.e. mind arises as the container of " i

am " ; then to that is added all the attriubtes of Jiva (his kosha and

mala etc>)

 

sadhu: How should he meditate on the self inside?

 

b: He has to go inward to the self and to being the SELF

instead of the jiva that might or could become the Self... (the jiva

can never become the Self<< this means Jiva can never ever reach

realization) .. The reason why he cannot is because it is the SELF

WHO realizes HIMSELF IN HIMSELF AS HIMSELF!

 

b: do you see?

 

sadhu: I get it. If one gets his foundation wrong he can't build the

building.

 

b: Yes, exactly; so then meditation is not sitting.. it is not

pranayama, it is not absorption in samadhi either; it is constant

focus upon the fact of the Self. This is devotion; it is bhakti; it

is seva; it is YOGA! OM Tat Sat.

 

b: Sri Krishna says: " To my bhakti's will accrue ALL YOGAS " . what i

have said is what HE means .

 

sadhu: I have ran out of time today when can I meet you online next?

 

b: i am here every morning early... (5 hours from now and every

evening around two hours earlier than now) 7 days per week

b: please save this talk and re-read it. i will edit it and place it

in the yoga school (i will change the names ).

 

sadhu: hmm ok would you prescribe me anything now.....?

 

b: Namaste __/|\__

 

b: No. just think only of the Self IN YOU as i have described here

today. We will talk again soon.

 

sadhu: OM! Thanks a lot.

 

b: Om Bye now.