Guest guest Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 The Nature of Consciousness Dear friends in The Self, May this lead to Him Realizing Himself in all of us! Om Tat Sat with respect and love bindu ------------------------- The Nature of Consciousness sadhu: Namaste Binju sadhu: is it correct to say the Naked Reality is the conscious seeing or observing of Self either as consciousness of manifest form or in the absence of form (consciousness of the void or non-manifest)? b: hmm... let me study your question. b: Your question: " Is it correct to say the Naked Reality is the conscious seeing or observing of Self either as consciousness of manifest form or in the absence of form? " The answer is both and neither ... as both consciousness of form and form itself appear in the naked reality thus THAT Naked reality is NOT the consciousness (not its content) but the content is its manifestation (or reflection) in itself; The hard thing to understand is how the multiplicity we call maya or existence comes about in the nothingness; we can see the unreality of what we think is real when we look at atomic flux... (ie. all things are in a state of change even as we observe them regardless if we are looking at an obejct such as a table or an atom) hence nothing is as it seems.... but is existing " AS " the potency itself! So then this reality (the Cosmos) is THAT potency and is not really real; hence as Sri Krishna says ... all things exist in HIS potency. i.e. it is referred to as HIS maya-Sakti. sadhu: I am trying to understand the big picture before delving too much into the detail. So the Naked Reality is conscious of consciousness either with or without content? b: Yes! sadhu: Is the appearance of that content is dependant on a spontaneous idea from Atman? b: The appearance is dependant yes, but NOT dependant upon an IDEA; ALL... everything, existence-itself. The universe all bits of knowledge; and the SUM of knowledge, along with all beings experiencing any and everything or knowing any and everthing in all variations; ALL of it is The Nature of the Self; it is the attribute; it is the beingness of the Self hence it continues to change and grow and develope it evolves etc. Thus it is naturally existing it (everything) does not appear due to an act or thought had by the Self. It is like YOU in your own mirror; You are completely there; yet each moment you move however inperceptibly. Hence your image is changing ... the difference between what we see in the mirror and the consciousness-miror is that whatever you were previous to having moved is not visible in YOUR bathroom mirror; but the modes of the Self take time to dissolve and reform, hence that appearance is TIME- Itself and ALL that Time contains; the modes of consciousness thus change infinity and consciousness appears as what we in our modern age might call the space-time continuem. But in itself as the naked one the Consciousness does not appear, thus it is said to be conscious of the consciousness. Which will mean it exists previous-to during and after the end of the world. i.e. as Sri Nissagaddatta says: it exists prior to Consciousness! Thus there are countless beings coming and going; in this way all the Minds of all beings are modes of the Self's Self-consciousness (they constitute His jnana-sakti); that is why the Jiva is conscious of himself! They are the self-consciousness .. all appearing in the Naked reality; which we could call the psychic space of the Self. sadhu: Is animabindu a bit like God or the Naked Reality blinking? b: Yes, that is correct. That flashing extends into the heart of the atom; whereby we can see the photons flashing and pulsing. But what it not seen nor seeable is that the whole is flashing ALL-at-once; that is why the heart beats and why there are rythms in all modes of being and in all things. It is the same vibration called the Spanda- Sakti. sadhu: Is it Om? b: YES! Thus OM is said to be existence itself. So then the mantra: " Om Soham Om " is like an affirmation as to what i have just described to you. This reprograms the nueron pathways in the brain, then we cease refer to Jiva " AS " self and begin to open to the Infinite Self; the Soham Mantra connects the synapses of the brain to the Sakti then there is the realization that the jiva is part of the energy of the Self, like a drop is part of the ocean... but just as a drop is not the ocean....nor is the Jiva The Self. The bija, seed, bindu, the soul the sharira... (names of the individual self or soul) is the drop. Thus from the drop there are also reflections hence the Jiva is the God of ITS OWN universe but not the rReal Self of countless Universes Jiva is not the Cosmic Purusha. b: dot this is getting very deep here LOL sadhu: Thankyou Binduji for this chat, i will enjoy reflecting on this. I must go now as our tea is ready. b: Namaste sadhu: namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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