Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 When Tantriks say the whole world is a manifestation of Shakti ( conscious energy) or when Vedanti say whole universe is Maya (illusion), we can not just dismiss their claims. If we go Scientifically we will find how big a truth they are revealing. Let us see first what the science has to say about Universe. Science which was prejudiced earlier due to christian beliefs and Greek philosophies, treated matter as dead building blocks. Finally they found that all matter in the Universe is made of atoms. The Atoms were further pierced and it was found that each atom is made of Electrons, protons and neutrons. Protons(having positive electrical charge) and neutrons(having no electric charge) making the core of the atoms and the electrons (having negative charge) encircle around the core. So what is the basis of matter----it is atom. and what is an Atom--- an arrangement of electrons and protons. An atom is basically a negative charge of electricity encircling a positive charge that's all. There is no solid thing called matter. When energy condenses to form electrons/protons, we are introduced to matter. Hence there is nothing called a matter in absolute terms. Energy behaving in a specific manner is taken as matter by us. Is it not similar to what Tantriks and vedantin say ? The Energy is found in two forms Static and Kinetic. A water reservoir upside hill is full of static energy because when it is made to fall down the hill, it exerts energy which can be utilised to generate electricity. In kinetic form the energy is always working….when it is in Moving condition, when it is in vibrating condition. And if we see carefully the energy is always in kinetic form, as static is a relative term. There is nothing in the universe which is not in motion. Our good earth on which we think we are resting without movement, we are experiencing numerous motions some outward and some inward. The outward motions are 1- Earth's tilted axis is moving, completing its one circle in 26,0000 years (thus bringing ice-age) 2- earth is moving around its own axis completing one circle in about 24 hours which we experience as day and night. 3- earth is moving around Sun completing one circle in 365.25 days which we experience as one year. 4- The sun alongwith its planets, is moving around the center of our Galaxy and may take millions of years to complete one rotation. 5- Sun and its planets, alongwith all the matter in our galaxy are moving away from the centre of Universe in an expanding way. 6-. Whole universal system is encircling around the centre of the big bang. Out of these 6 movements, we experience none, we, at the most, guess about 2 motions, through day and night and change of seasons. Now let us see our resting body. Even when we are at rest our blood circulates, our respirations continues, thousands of messages are delivered by our nervous system between various parts of the body and brain. Our whole body is made up of molecules which are in constant motion. Molecules are made of atoms. Electrons are encircling around protons at fierce speed (a little less than speed of light). Further the electrons are nothing but some photons encircling at a speed more than that of light. When an electron is broken, it emits photons which we see as light. Such tremendous motions in our so-called resting body, so many movements and so many energies working !!! What is light ? We do not know Scientists do not know. What we know as light is the reaction of our brain to the vibration of photons falling on our retina. Our mind has given it a name LIGHT. What is sound ? We do not know. scientists do not know. What we know as sound is the reaction of our mind to the vibrations falling on our ear-drums. What is heat ? nobody knows….what we conceive as heat is the reaction of our brain of the vibrations of energy felt by our skin. Different type of energies come to our body with different wavelengths and frequencies and our mind reacts to them…..and we give a name to that reaction. when we are travelling in a train and find another train passing by..can we read the signboard on that train ….NO So our mind is continually vibrating and so are all the things in the Universe…..a vibrating organ receives some signals from other vibrating energies and makes an incomplete and distorted idea about the reaction of both the vibrations..which are known as sound, light, heat, electricity and the whole universe around us. If our mind does not react to a sound…..the sound has no meaning If our mind does not react to light ….the light has no absolute status If our mind does not react to thoughts….the thoughts are dead There is only one thing in this Universe which is not vibrating….which is not reacting to any of the energies….which is not drawing conclusions….it is the pure consciousness which is only a spectator of the phenomenon….this pure-consciousness is our true- self. with love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Obeisances unto the master. Your illustration of energy is absolutely correct. You have correctly stated about the " shakti " . Sir, shakti can not be alone, as relativity says there should always be action for any reaction. Shakti is reaction. Then what is action? or if shakti is action, what is reaction? Who is controller or generator of this shakti. In this universe, nothing can happen automatically or without reason. Can you put some more light on this? please. Heartful Regards. beirut_ka_baba <no_reply > wrote: When Tantriks say the whole world is a manifestation of Shakti ( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 , keshav daund <keshav_daund wrote: > Keshav ji you are very right...shakti can not be alone. As per our hindu philosophy there is only One Brahm (supreme consciousness) who manifests itself into Shiva and shakti. You must have read about 36 Tattwas of universe in Tantrik/shakta literatures. As per this philosophy the supreme Tattwa whom they call Turiya Tattwa manifests as follows : TURIYA==> PARAMSHIVA + SHAKTI ==> SADASHIVA+ISHWAR+VIDYA ==> MAYA, AVIDYA, GUNAS AND ALL OTHER TATTWAS OF THE UNIVERSE. This separation of shakti tattwa from Shiva is apparent. we can say active shiva tattwa is called shakti...and inactive shakti tattwa is shiva. But for the manifestation purpose Shakti and shiva become two poles as consciousness and energy or as male & female, who mate and manifest the Universe with my love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Rev. Sir, heartful obeisances. Thanks for clarification. Kindly explain 'Sadashiva + Ishwara + Vidya'. I presume Sadashiva Himself is Ishwara. Is Vidya (Knowledge) Shakti? Also favour me with link to Tantrik / Shakta literature. Humble regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Dear Keshav, Tantric Cosmology goes something like this: 1. The highest is Parashiv, where Shiv & Shakti are combined(Ardhnarishwar). He/She has a desire to create/expand. This causes the male & female parts to separate. 2. Parashiv becomes Sadashiv & Shakti separate. Shakti creates the worlds. Sadashiv sees these worlds as part of Himself ie, He says, I am this Universe. 3. Sadashiv then becomes Ishwar(Brahma Vishnu & Rudra- Rudra is also called Shiv in Puranas). Brahma, Vishnu & Rudra- who are actually 1 Conciousness- much to sorrow of Vaishnavs/Shaivs who spend so much time fighting! The difference is Ishwar seems himself separate from world- He says- That is the world, this is Me, & I am teh Master of this world. 4. At the same level as Ishwar is Vidya- this is Gayatri of the Vedas. Vidya is the Shakti that tells Ishwar that he is Ishwar, not an ordinary man. Below Vidya is Maya & all Jivas. Vidya is the most powerful Shakti, as she can turn an ordinary man into Ishwar with her blessing, she can also make make Ishwar forget who he is, which is the proable reason while Brahma/Vishnu/Rudra sometimes behave like ordinary fools in the Puranas. The ancient Rishis understood this, so they made Gayatri the highest mantra, & called Shakti Mother of the Vedas. love Shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: > > Dear Keshav, Shanracer has explained it well left no room for further explanation. I would just add 2 cents that Vidya & Avidya both are manifestations of shakti. I would rather say all manifestations are of Shakti only...consciousness projects shakti and shakti manifests and let consciousness feel as paramashiva, sadashiva, ishwar or jeeva. It is not consciousness which is differentiating...shiva tattawa remains un-differentiated throughout....shakti's masks change the persona. regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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