Do you enjoy the Evil side of every thing in this world

[Guest guest]

Without evil there will be no value for good.

And every human posses a evil side which is most of the time

suppressed or unleashed.

If given chance or there would be no law and fear of God are we ready

to do any evil thing.

Bad are those just got caught

Good are those just suppressed the Evil side of themselves.

[Guest guest]

You forgot without evil, most " moralists " & priests would go out of

business, as there would no one to preach their morality to!

[Guest guest]

Dear Shanracer

 

I'm not speaking of anyone else, Just you do you enjoy the evil side

of the world.

[Guest guest]

Bhadraji, personally I dont like this word " evil " - it gives the wrong

idea that there is something inherently evil or wrong in the world or

its people.

 

There is no evil- only ignorance. All sins are done in ignorance of

our true Nature as beings og Truth-Conciousness-Bliss. In fact,

anything done in ignorance can be called a sin.

 

>>Bad are those just got caught

>>Good are those just suppressed the Evil side of themselves.

 

There is no repressed evil in anyone- rather there is only a lack of

wisdom. This lack of wisdom forces them to make the same mistakes

again & again, but that isnt repressed evil, just a lack of correct

thinking.

 

Why call certain acts/people evil? If Hitler hadnt destroyed Europe,

countries like India would still be slaves. How can we judge what is

required for the Divine plan?

 

Rather, think of a Divine Plan that moves slowly towards its goal,

inspite of all the mistakes of the Plans main actors.

 

love,

Shantnu

[Guest guest]

HOW TO DEFINE WHAT IS GOOD AND WHAT IS BAD? ITS ALL PERCEPTION, NOTHING ELSE. BY

VIRTUE OF OUR TRADITIONAL INHERITENCE WE HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO LIVE IN LIMITED

SPHERE OF LIFE, WHICH IS LIMITED TO WHAT OUR SENSE ORGANS CAN PERCIEVE.

 

ENJOYMENT IS YET ANOTHER STATE OF MIND. SO VOLATILE IN NATURE. SOMETHING GOOD

FOR ONE IS BAD FOR ANOTHER. POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE OR EXTREME POLAR NATURE OF

EACH AND EVERYTHING IN THIS WORLD IS COMPLEMENTARY TO EACH OTHER AND IS MUST FOR

SURVIVAL.

 

TO CONCLUDE, PRACTICALLY AND BEHAVIOURLY, SOME HUMAN BEING ENJOY A PARTICULAR

STIMULUS PERCIVED BY THEIR SENSE ORGANS AND AT SAME TIME SOME PEOPLE DONOT ENJOY

THAT. IT ALL DEPEND UPON THE ATTITUDE AND CULTURE DEVELOPED WITHIN.

 

OM NAMAH SHIVAY

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

In my views evil character is developed due to

negative direction towards destruction either may it

be the creature itself or the surroundings. It is flow

of life energy towards negativity.

 

When the life energy is constructive we may say its

godly nature or else if it is reverse its evil nature.

The energy never differentiates whether its flowing

positively or negatively. Only the human throu which

it is flowing has to understand it & divert it.

 

The sheer reality of god is beyond evility or

godlyness.

--- shanracer <no_reply > wrote:

 

> Bhadraji, personally I dont like this word " evil " -

> it gives the wrong

> idea that there is something inherently evil or

> wrong in the world or

> its people.

>

> There is no evil- only ignorance. All sins are done

> in ignorance of

> our true Nature as beings og

> Truth-Conciousness-Bliss. In fact,

> anything done in ignorance can be called a sin.

>

> >>Bad are those just got caught

> >>Good are those just suppressed the Evil side of

> themselves.

>

> There is no repressed evil in anyone- rather there

> is only a lack of

> wisdom. This lack of wisdom forces them to make the

> same mistakes

> again & again, but that isnt repressed evil, just a

> lack of correct

> thinking.

>

> Why call certain acts/people evil? If Hitler hadnt

> destroyed Europe,

> countries like India would still be slaves. How can

> we judge what is

> required for the Divine plan?

>

> Rather, think of a Divine Plan that moves slowly

> towards its goal,

> inspite of all the mistakes of the Plans main

> actors.

>

> love,

> Shantnu

>

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Humble Obeisance! Gurudev, I would like to ask a question with your kind

permission. Dev, please let me know why there are evil, miscreant and

destructive thoughts when I close my eyes for meditation? When eyes are open, I

can concentrate on photograph of Bhagavan Shri Rama for certain time. But I have

heard that meditation or concentration, chanting etc. are to be done with closed

eyes to held up Prana Shakti and with open eyes it is projected outside and

there is certain loss of it. Dev, if you or anybody of our group can guide me, I

shall be highly gratified and grateful unto you forever. Heartful regards.

[Guest guest]

There is no need to worry about these thoughts-they come up because

they exist- whenever you do strong puja, all your bad vrittis come up

to be destroyed. If you get scared & stop puja, they go back into

subconcious.

 

The correct way is to not to worry about them- your worrying &

thinking about them gives them power. Instead, ignore them & they will

die a natural death. And as a bonus, they will release the energy they

were holding up, which will boost your meditation.

 

While it is true the inner meditation is more powerful, it shouldnt be

forced. If you like focussing on picture of Sri Ram, continue doing

that. Same with mantra- it can be chanted loudly. Once you have become

an expert, the process automatically goes inside- you will be able to

visualise the picture & chant mantra in mind- but this process should

happen automatically after practice.

 

love,

Shantnu

[Guest guest]

Humble Obeisances! Thanks a lot for very good guidance. Heartful regards.

 

shanracer <no_reply > wrote: There is no need

[Guest guest]

Dear

 

If there is no evil and bad things and if it is all in our perception

, then what Ravana, Kansa, etc are to the world.

What was the necessity of the lord to come to the earth to restore the

Positive energy.

 

 

Thank you

[Guest guest]

, " BHADRA RAO JANAGAM " <bjanagam

wrote:

 

This world was manifested when Adi-shakti divided herself into two

poles, male and female, consciousness and shakti, evil and good,

positive or negative.

 

The day the universe started manifesting positive and negative

energies are struggling with each other trying to annul each other

or establishe its supermacy. Now positive energies are not

necessarily good and negative energies are not just bad.... it is a

perspective of the mind....who plays the game of reaction towards

certain energies and treats them as positive or negative.

 

For a theif, the policeman who tortures him to get information

about the stolen goods, is Evil....for the owner of goods police man

is a positive force trying to solve his problem.

 

Hitler was Hero for germans and evil for jews. Shri Krishna was

thought to be Evil by Kansa, Duryodhana, shakuni and shishupal....

where as for his bhaktas he was God.

 

Yes there is only one thing which we call evil...that is any

energy which hinders the way to spirituality.....but that too is

temporary evil....not really evil in absolute terms.

 

Evil is very necessary for this world. Evil forces us to fight with

it and kill it or it forces us to step back from the war and re-

consider our own energies. Evil awakens our positive energies.

 

SURPRISINGLY, no Bhakta, no gyani no Yogi could force God to

incarnate. It was so called Evil which forced God to come down as

humans

 

Had it not been Kansa, Krishna would not have come down. Had it

not been Duryodhana shakuni etc, Mahabharat would not have occured.

Had it not been Ravan, Rama would not have taken birth.

 

Evil need not be hated...evil must be understood why it has been

brought to fight...whether to show our weaknesses, or to awaken our

positive energies... or if we are weak to destroy us.

 

with love

[Guest guest]

> This world was manifested when Adi-shakti divided herself into two

> poles, male and female, consciousness and shakti, evil and good,

> positive or negative.

 

Babaji, I always thought it was Parashiv(or Ardhnarishwar) who divides

into Concioussness & Shakti(Male & Female).

 

Yet, the Durga Saptashati says that " Ya Devi Chiti rupena Sanstitha " ,

" Ya Devi Chaitnyabhidiyati " .

 

What is the nature of Shiv, & how is he different from Shakti? Can you

pls enlighten?

 

love

Shantnu

[Guest guest]

Brother, there is one shruti vAkyam ' Eko aham bahusyAm babhuva:' For very

large span of time the Suprimo was alone. He thought of creation. One alone can

not create anything hence He provlaimed like this and divided Himself into two.

Male & Female. The play between these two is the creation of universe. In this

universe there is everything good and bad(evil). Evil is that portion which

quite opposing to good but completely dependent of good and has no independent

existence. It is shadow of good. Everybody is scared of darkness. Evil is that

darkness. When we accept good, we have no choice to refuse evil. Hence it is

quite natural that alongwith enjoyment of good, we are bound to enjoy evil

diminishing/reducing its seriousness or harmfulness. While travelling through

dark we use torches of various kinds and thus eliminate intensity of

darkness/evil and go ahead. For better progree we have to enjoy evil to learn

how to avoid impediments in our ways. That's all. Regards.

 

shanracer <no_reply > wrote:

> This world was manifested when Adi-shakti divided herself into two

> poles, male and female, consciousness and shakti, evil and good,

> positive or negative.

 

Babaji, I always thought it was Parashiv(or Ardhnarishwar) who divides

into Concioussness & Shakti(Male & Female).

 

Yet, the Durga Saptashati says that " Ya Devi Chiti rupena Sanstitha " ,

" Ya Devi Chaitnyabhidiyati " .

 

What is the nature of Shiv, & how is he different from Shakti? Can you

pls enlighten?

 

love

Shantnu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

When the eyes are closed the outflowing prana (cosmic)

energy through which knowldge of our world is gained,

diverts inside.But it will make the mind activities

more energified and hence when the start of meditation

is always noisy and full of thoughts which were hidden

or invisible when the mind was busy in other

activities.

 

When the visualiser (the principle life energy) just

observes them and shakes not a moment with the crowd

of thoughts, takes away energy from the thoughts and

hence the thoughts go down to minimisation.

 

the process continuies till a single thought of a

vision of likes god like rama and the sound of a

particular repeated mantra is visible and be heared by

inner senses.

 

This is the way to entrance to dhyana state.

--- keshav daund <keshav_daund wrote:

 

> Humble Obeisance! Gurudev, I would like to ask a

> question with your kind permission. Dev, please let

> me know why there are evil, miscreant and

> destructive thoughts when I close my eyes for

> meditation? When eyes are open, I can concentrate on

> photograph of Bhagavan Shri Rama for certain time.

> But I have heard that meditation or concentration,

> chanting etc. are to be done with closed eyes to

> held up Prana Shakti and with open eyes it is

> projected outside and there is certain loss of it.

> Dev, if you or anybody of our group can guide me, I

> shall be highly gratified and grateful unto you

> forever. Heartful regards.

>

 

 

 

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