Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 , " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote: > > Gorakh Nath was the only Human till then, who was taught Tantra by > Lord Shiva himself. Lord Shiva also blessed him to be alive till > Mahapralaya and spread the correct path of Tan >What do you mean by this??? - " Gorakh Nath was the only human " Why are you calling Guru Gorakh Nath Ji a human? Even after I said that - " Gorakh Guru sabka, Mahadev ka rup pahchano " It means he is te Guru of all, recognize him as a form of Mahadeva/lord Shiva even after this you refuse to acknowledge the fact that he is Lord Shiva's manifestation. What does this mean ?? Its blasphemy to call incarnation of Shiva a human!! You are comitting offence against Lord Shiva, the Naths and thier followers by refusing to acknowledge Guru Gorakh Nath Ji as God himself!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 LOL! We had a long discussion that not all Bhaktas are fanatic, only ISKCON are........seems we need to have it again Guru Gorakhnath is a Siddha-they are even above Gods. One Siddha, Dattatreya, had Shiv for his student. One Rishi, Bhrigu, kicked Vishnu when he didnt welcome him. If Gorakhnath wasnt human, & only Avtaars of Shiv can become Siddhas, that means the rest of 6 billion people have no chance of Moksha, as we arent all Avtaars of Shiv? I believe in a system where everyone has a chance to become a Sidhha, not just a lucky few who are Avtaars of some great Guru/God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 , " i_free_spirit " <i_free_spirit wrote: > you calling Guru Gorakh Nath Ji a human? Even after I said that - > " Gorakh Guru sabka, Mahadev ka rup pahchano " OK replace the sentence " Gorakh Nath was the only Human till then.. " with " Gorakh Nath was the only Siddha in Human form till then.. " I didnt know that i was so strong that i can insult God..and Aradhna is so important that she can save god from disgrace... LOL Thanks for saving me from sin of Blasphemy... (in which i never believed ) AUM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 , " i_free_spirit " <i_free_spirit wrote: > Even after I said that - > " Gorakh Guru sabka, Mahadev ka rup pahchano " It means he is te Guru of > all, recognize him as a form of Mahadeva/lord Shiva even after this you > refuse to acknowledge the fact Dear Aradhana, What is meant by " Even after I said " ? does it mean what ever you say must be taken as TRUTH by all of us or branded blasphemous ? There are billions of people out in the world who do not even know of Gorakhnathh and dont take him as guru. Are they all sinners ? ansuya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: > > LOL! We had a long discussion that not all Bhaktas are fanatic, only >Mr Shanracer you are an ill fated mocker. For your kind information Lord Dattatreya was an amsha avtaara of Vishnu.What do you know about Nath sampradaya by the way?? By just reading 4-5 books you think you have become very knowledgeable and great and you call hurt bhaktas fanatics! I have spent my life with Nath Gurus Lord Krishna says that my birth and activities are spiritual which means incarnation God should not be seen as a " human " but rather as God indeed Guru is greater than God and thats not FOR only my Guru but everyones Guru.mY guru is everybodys guru not only mine. And gurus and prophets and saints are one and the same by the way just as various forms of God are one and the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 , " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote: > > , " i_free_spirit " <i_free_spirit@> > wrote: > > > you calling Guru Gorakh Nath Ji a human? Even after I said that - > > " Gorakh Guru sabka, Mahadev ka rup pahchano " > > > OK replace the sentence " Gorakh Nath was the only Human till then.. " > with " Gorakh Nath was the only Siddha in Human form till then.. " > > AUM >very funny indeed!! I thought you didnt know who was Guru Gorakh Nath ji you said he was an incarnation of patanjali maybe and I told you he is Shiva just so that you can know. But I did a great wrong by sharing something with you people. You say that I am a fool who thinks she can defend God. Let me remind you that Upamanyu tried to burn himself when Lord Shiva was " criticised " which as you say he cant be. Maata Sati burned herself because Lord Shiva wasnt given due respect.I being a very meage person objected that he isnt human but Shiva himself. If you laugh over a hurt bhakta then I really dont know your mentality. Br sure i wont come back because this isnt a satsang for me but a place of egotists trying to display thier greatness and supremacy. You people hurt my feelings for my Guru now Guru Gorakh Nath is the judge.Namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Aradhana... Relax.... Take things easy ... Shivoham. I am Shiva...Everything in this world is Shiva....There is no chance of any blasphemy or everything is blasphemy..... Love Bala... On 9/17/07, ansuya80 <no_reply > wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Dearest Aradhana.. Please do not get angry.... Please see this also as Shiva's Leela...please forgive us and Continue posting... love Bala.. On 9/17/07, i_free_spirit <i_free_spirit wrote: > >very funny indeed!! I thought you didnt know who was Guru Gorakh > Nath ji you said he was an incarnation of patanjali maybe and I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Hi Aradhana, You may not know me but i know you from y/a. I agree what was said against your guru was harsh but do you know redemption of such people is only thru criticising and fighting with the god/guru/ avatar/prophet etc., Do you think all these evil people who fought god are rotting in hell - no they are in heaven because of encountering the supreme. Same was Jesus who forgave Judas at last supper and is in heaven and not in hell. As someone rightly said, it is the pinching of other satsangi brothers and should just be taken in that spirit and this sort of pinching did take place when Gora-Kumbhar (the potter saint), Gyandev, Sopan, Mukhtabai, Namdev all had assembled physically in Gora's house unlike us where we are assembling in the privacy of our home/office by posting. At this meeting it was decided that gora should knock on everyone's head to find out whether they are baked or still unripe and accordingly he kept hammering lightly on everyone's head saying baked, baked and when he came to Namdev's head i feel he purposefully hit little harder so he squirmed in pain and ran out crying towards Vithoba's temple and there he poured out his heart to the stone idol which use to come alive and speak to him. But even Vithoba told him he was unripe because though with his bhakti he could bring a stone god alive he did not have a physical live master/guru. This shocked namdev and he asked god to name the living master to him and god replied at that moment it was Visoba Kechar. Since you are a north indian let me put it this way. Mein roya kyonki mera padosi maar gaya. Mein roya isliye nahin ki muje mere padosi se pyar tha, mein roya kyonki mera padosi mera nindak tha aur meri ninda karke woh mere paap muft mein dhota ta, ab mera paap dhone wala kohi nahin isliya mein ro raha hoon. Loosely translated it means: I cried because my neighbour died. I cried not because i loved my neighbour but because he was my critic and by daily criticising me he was washing away my sins for free and now i have no one to wash my sins for free that is why i am crying. I HOPE YOU GET THE DRIFT AND PLEASE DON'T THINK ABOUT LEAVING. This is a lesson for you to toughen up. Good luck and cheers! ) Regards Sudhakar - In , " Balachander Govindaraghavan " <balachand wrote: > > Dearest Aradhana.. > > Please do not get angry.... Please see this also as Shiva's Leela...please > forgive us and Continue posting... > > love > > Bala.. > > On 9/17/07, i_free_spirit <i_free_spirit wrote: > > >very funny indeed!! I thought you didnt know who was Guru Gorakh > > Nath ji you said he was an incarnation of patanjali maybe and I > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 , " spbyoga9 " <spbyoga9 wrote: > > You may not know me but i know you from y/a. I agree what was said > against your guru was harsh but do you know redemption of such My dear, will you kindly tell me in which post and where " Harsh " was written against Guru GorakshNath ? did you really read my post ? Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 , " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote: Dear Aum, I reacted on her message stating that " you have insulted guru gorakh nath and that is why i am leaving " . My only attempt was if she feels hurt by harsh comments ok but there is no need to quit the group that is all. Did i go wrong anywhere? Regards Sudhakar From AUM: Dear Sudhakar, you should have first read the messages. I have no where insulted nor used harsh words, nor has shanracer done it. All the messages are there ...anyone can read them and decide. Guru Gorakhnath is nobody's personal property and he is equally respectable to me....that z why i wrote a beautiful post on him telling about his contribution to Tantra. If somebody wishes to create problems by cooking things, we cant do anything. If Aradhna writes constructive posts i will welcome but no more post on this useless and baseless blabberings will be allowed... this group is for discussing spirituality... Thanks... let us continue > > , " spbyoga9 " <spbyoga9@> wrote: > > > > You may not know me but i know you from y/a. I agree what was said > > against your guru was harsh but do you know redemption of such > > > My dear, > > will you kindly tell me in which post and where " Harsh " was written > against Guru GorakshNath ? did you really read my post ? > > > Aum > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 My Dear sweet flower, Aradhana... I know u are defending your guru, as part of your duty. But know for sure that defending should be done against directed insult. This insult, IF you consider it so also, is unintentional. and un-intentional insults are not insults. You are my sweet sister, i want you to be with me, don't react for this and at once, forget this one. Aum has written this in terms of the extensive information he collected from the strata, form different sources. Take this as your brothers plea, and immediately come back , and write some beautiful words for me. whenever you wrote good for bhaktas, i read it silently and enjoyed it.. but i did not wish to write some nice things about it, because that would be limited to my capability, and would not really express my feelings. I love you my sister, we all love you flower, i hope to hear form you soon. -- Deito Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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