Alakh Niranjan

[Guest guest]

Urvashi mohan has nicely explained alakh Niranjan. Is alakh niranjan,

sat sri akaal, and sachhidanand same ?

 

can some one tell the meaning of these and the similarities or

differences between these names.

 

also is muslim's allah - o- Akbar same as those or different

 

Ansuya

[Guest guest]

Thank you , dear Anusuya . That is so sweet of you.

 

Basically, the esoteric interpretation for 'Alakh Niranjan' is

the 'untainted , pure , soul ' aka as Atma or self in Hinduism. Sat-

chit-ananda means Truth-consciousness- bliss and a self realized

person ( atma jnani) is always truthful, conscious and blissful he

is supposed to be a Sat chit ananda

 

Sat sri akal is a greeting used by sikhs which means " He/She Be

Blessed Who says Truth is God " .

 

Basically, they are all greetings and they honor the divne as

Truth , pure , untainted and total bliss !

 

Niranjan also means 'flawless' and anusuya , you know what is really

flawless is the Ultimate Truth - this truth has been

called 'Brahman' in hinduism!

 

Namaste - the divine in me bows to the divine in you !

 

ps babaji and others can explain this better .

 

 

 

 

, ansuya80 <no_reply wrote:

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> Urvashi mohan has nicely explained alakh Niranjan. Is alakh

niranjan,

> sat sri akaal, and sachhidanand same ?

>

> can some one tell the meaning of these and the similarities or

> differences between these names.

>

> also is muslim's allah - o- Akbar same as those or different

>

> Ansuya

>

[Guest guest]

, ansuya80 <no_reply wrote:

>

>

> also is muslim's allah - o- Akbar same as those or different

>

> Ansuya

>

 

Dear Ansuya

 

'Allah-hu-akbar' simply means 'Allah is the greatest'

The muslim greeting 'Assalam-o-alaikum' simply means 'may peace be upon

you'

 

With love & peace

 

Farah

[Guest guest]

Dear Urvashi Nath sect is a part of Hinduism only and hasnt seperated like

Sikhism which ahs become kind of an off shoot. The panth has followers from

various religions. You are cute so I am telling you this - normally I dont share

about my Gurus with anyone except those who are very close. We call our Guruji's

place/ sthaan - " dargah " and not mandir. And people who dont know about this ask

us why you are Hindus but go to Dargah? lol

 

Actually the Hindu and Muslim devotees would fight among themselves for the

Nath Guru and the temple. When one of the Gurus took samadhi they started

fighting for his kamli ie a shawl that has divine powers so there was an

aakashvaani that said -divide it into two. hence for such reasons the sthaan is

called mandir by muslims and dargah by Hindus

 

love

[Guest guest]

Hi dearest Aradhana :

 

Thnks for sharing this cute little story on " Kamli "

 

(Actually the Hindu and Muslim devotees would fight among themselves

for the Nath Guru and the temple. When one of the Gurus took samadhi

they started fighting for his kamli ie a shawl that has divine

powers so there was an aakashvaani that said -divide it into two.

hence for such reasons the sthaan is called mandir by muslims and

dargah by Hindus)

 

Very Interesting ! I knew Muslims called their place of

worship 'dargah' and hindus called their place of worship 'mandir' ?

but you say it the other way around ?

 

here is a story for you , Aradhana !

 

On the day of Gobind Rai's birth, Bhikan Shah, a Muslim Pir who

lived in the Punjab, did a very curious thing. He bowed to the east

instead of to the west towards Mecca. His followers were shocked and

asked him why he was doing this. He replied, " On this day, a beloved

of God has been born who will be both a saint and a hero. " He vowed

to go worship the new-born saint, and would perform a daily fast

until he saw him. He made the very long journey to Patna and arrived

there exhausted and weak with hunger. When he came to the Guru's

house, he asked to see the child. The Guru's mother and grandmother

were cautious and sent word to the Pir that he should come back in

three months. He said he would sit, fast, and wait. After two days,

he was still there. Finally, Mata Gujari was moved by his devotion

and allowed him to come in and present his offerings. The Pir

brought in his presents and bowed low to the little child. Then he

did a very strange thing. He put two identical covered pots in front

of the boy, and sat back and waited. The child looked into the Pir's

eyes, smiled, and touched both of the pots. The Pir smiled back at

him and prepared to leave. When the Sikhs and his followers asked

him what he meant by this, he replied, " In one pot were sweets made

by a Hindu sweetmaker, and in the other pot by a Muslim sweetmaker.

By putting his hands on both pots, the Guru will give equal respect

to both Hindus and Muslims, and will include both in his new

religion. " So saying, he blessed the child and returned home,

remaining a steadfast supporter of the Guru his entire life.

 

http:/www.punjabilok.com/misc/kids & youth/two_pots.htm

 

 

-- In , ARADHANA KHANNA <i_free_spirit

wrote:

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> Dear Urvashi Nath sect is a part of Hinduism only and hasnt

[Guest guest]

> Are you people sure that you are not mixing Nathh sect with Sufis

> because the Kamli, Dargah etc are all linked with Sufis and not Nathhs

 

And this Kamli story seems like the one when Kabir died. Both Hindus &

Muslims claimed him as their own, but they only found only flowers

where his body was, which they divided among themselves.

 

Most of the Nath masters were born at least 10,000 years before Islam

was even born.

[Guest guest]

, ARADHANA KHANNA <i_free_spirit

wrote:

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> BUT BECAUSE I AM VERY SCARED OF MR SHANRACER I WILL ONLY SAY

THAT >WHICH HE SAYS IS RIGHT- NATH ARE SANATAN DHARMIS. THEY ARENT

SUFIS OF >MUSLIM SECT.

 

Dear Aradhana,

 

There is nothing to be scared of anybody. This is a free forum

and not an ashram, where everybody has to respect a particular sect.

 

In seven years here, i have been rebuked by ISKCONs to accept

their guru as my guru...then by many others some Fatta Swami, and

some people cursed me to go to hell for not accepting Kripalu

Maharaj as guru...another for not accepting Mata Nirmala devi....and

dozens others...Even muslims rebuked here all hindus to accept Mohd.

as Kalki Avtaar.

 

All gurus are respected here... but no one can force others to

accept their views/gurus on others. I am sure we are not asking for

too much liberty... You present your views...and give freedom to

others to express their views.

 

If some one questions/comments about our faith, and we take it

as insult..then the very purpose of this group is defeated.

 

and please try to avoid this personal comments about anyone...

if you comment about shanracer, he has every right to hit back..and

i have no time to solve personal problems of people here. This

request is for all members here.

 

The question is asked by me... as per my knowledge, Nathhs have

nothing to do with muslims, islam and Dargah. they are disciples of

Guru Gorakhnathh, and have their own Yogic discipline. If you have

clarification, give it... if you dont then better we leave this

topic without unwanted comments

 

I hope you understood what I wished to convey !

 

AUM

[Guest guest]

, ARADHANA KHANNA <i_free_spirit

> HOW THEY ARE CONNECTED TO MUSLIMS I CAN SHARE IF SHANRACER JI

 

Aradhanaji, if you read the original post which has made you so angry,

it was written by Babaji, not me.

 

2nd, I thought Babaji made it clear that no Guru is " copyright " or

" patent " of anyone, anyone of us are free to write/discuss on any

religious topic or any Guru.

 

I assume that since you have returned to this club, you have agreed to

this.

 

PS- I am very interested in knowing what link the Naths have with Islam.