can anyone help me comprehend this sloka of vishnu purana.

[Guest guest]

This is the direct translation of Para 217 till 225 ( total 9 paras )

of Vishnu Purana.

 

I am not able to comprehend it with accuracy. I just know that Dhruva

is the controlling axis for our sun, and hence the solar system and

sun somehow rotates in some relation to Dhruva star.

 

This sloka is supposed to explain how it works, and please note that

every word of this sloka means an accurate setting of the galaxy.

 

So please do not take it in simple terms, and please help me

comprehend it.

 

The translation slokas follow :

 

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The chariot of the sun is nine thousand leagues in length, and the

pole is of twice that longitude 1; the axle is fifteen millions and

seven hundred thousand leagues long 2; on which is fixed a wheel with

three naves, five spokes, and six peripheries, consisting of the

ever-during year; the whole constituting the circle or wheel of time

3. The chariot has another axle, which is forty-five thousand five

hundred leagues long 4.

 

p. 218

 

[paragraph continues] The two halves of the yoke are of the same

length respectively as the two axles (the longer and the shorter). The

short axle, with the short yoke, are supported by the pole-star: the

end of the longer axle, to which the wheel of the car is attached,

moves on the Mánasa mountain 5. The seven horses of the sun's car are

the metres of the Vedas, Gáyatrí, Vrihatí, Ushn & #769;ih, Jayatí,

Trisht & #769;ubh,

Anusht & #769;ubh, and Pankti.

 

The city of Indra is situated on the eastern side of the Mánasottara

mountain; that of Yama on the southern face; that of Varun & #769;a on the

west; and that of Soma on the north: named severally Vaswokasárá,

Samyamaní, Mukhyá, and Vibhávarí 6.

 

The glorious sun, Maitreya, darts like an arrow on his southern

course, attended by the constellations of the Zodiac. He causes the

difference between day and night, and is the divine vehicle and path

of the sages who have overcome the inflictions of the world. Whilst

the sun, who is the discriminator of all hours, shines in one

continent in midday, in the opposite Dwípas, Maitreya, it will be

midnight: rising and setting are at all seasons, and are always

(relatively) opposed in the different cardinal and intermediate points

of the horizon. When the sun becomes visible to any people, to them he

is said to rise; when he disappears from their

 

p. 219

 

view, that is called his setting. There is in truth neither rising nor

setting of the sun, for he is always; and these terms merely imply his

presence and his disappearance.

 

When the sun (at midday) passes over either of the cities of the gods,

on the Mánasottara mountain (at the cardinal points), his light

extends to three cities and two intermediate points: when situated in

an intermediate point, he illuminates two of the cities and three

intermediate. points (in either case one hemisphere). From the period

of his rise the sun moves with increasing rays until noon, when he

proceeds towards his setting with rays diminishing (that is, his heat

increases or diminishes in proportion as he advances to, or recedes

from, the meridian of any place). The east and west quarters are so

called from the sun's rising and setting there 7. As far as the sun

shines in front, so far he shines behind and on either hand,

illuminating all places except the summit of Meru, the mountain of the

immortals; for when his rays reach the court of Brahmá, which is there

situated, they are repelled and driven back by the overpowering

radiance which there prevails: consequently there is always the

alternation of day and night, according as the divisions of the

continent lie in the northern (or southern) quarter, or inasmuch as

they are situated north (or south) of Meru 8.

 

p. 220

 

The radiance of the solar orb, when the sun has set, is accumulated in

fire, and hence fire is visible at a greater distance by night than by

day: during the latter a fourth of the rays of fire blend with those

of the sun, and from their union the sun shines with greater intensity

by day. Elemental light, and heat derived from the sun or from fire,

blending with each other, mutually prevail in various proportions,

both by day and night. When the sun is present either in the southern

or the northern hemisphere, day or night retires into the waters,

according as they are invaded by darkness or light: it is from this

cause that the waters look dark by day, because night is within them;

and they look white by night, because at the setting of the sun the

light of day takes refuge in their bosom 9.

 

When the sun has travelled in the centre of Pushkara a thirtieth part

of the circumference of the globe, his course is equal in time to one

Muhúrtta 10; and whirling round like the circumference of the wheel of

a potter, he distributes day and night upon the earth. In the

commencement of his northern course, the sun passes to Capricornus,

thence to Aquarius, thence to Pisces, going successively from one sign

of the Zodiac to another. After he has passed through these, the sun

attains his equinoctial movement (the vernal equinox), when he makes

the day and night of equal duration. Thenceforward the length of the

night decreases, and the day becomes longer, until the sun reaches the

end of Gemini, when he pursues a different direction, and, entering

Cancer, begins his declension to the south. As the circumference of a

potter's

 

p. 221

 

wheel revolves most rapidly, so the sun travels rapidly on his

southern journey: he flies along his path with the velocity of wind,

and traverses a great distance in a short time. In twelve Muhúrttas he

passes through thirteen lunar asterisms and a half during the day; and

during the night he passes through the same distance, only in eighteen

Muhúrttas. As the centre of the potter's wheel revolves more slowly

than the circumference, so the sun in his northern path again revolves

with less rapidity, and moves over a less space of the earth in a

longer time, until, at the end of his northern route, the day is again

eighteen Muhúrttas, and the night twelve; the sun passing through half

the lunar mansions by day and by night in those periods respectively.

As the lump of clay on the centre of the potter's wheel moves most

slowly, so the polar-star, which is in the centre of the zodiacal

wheel, revolves very tardily, and ever remains in the centre, as the

clay continues in the centre of the wheel of the potter.

 

The relative length of the day or night depends upon the greater or

less velocity with which the sun revolves through the degrees between

the two points of the horizon. In the solstitial period, in which his

diurnal path is quickest, his nocturnal is slowest; and in that in

which he moves quick by night, he travels slowly by day. The extent of

his journey is in either case the same; for in the course of the day

and night he passes through all the signs of the Zodiac, or six by

night, and the same number by day: the length and shortness of the day

are measured by the extent of the signs; and the duration of day and

night by the period which the sun takes to pass through them 11. In

his northern

 

p. 222

 

declination the sun moves quickest by night, and slowest by day; in

his southern declination the reverse is the case.

 

The night is called Ushá, and the day is denominated Vyusht & #769;a, and the

interval between them is called Sandhya. On the occurrence of the

awful Sandhya, the terrific fiends termed Mandehas attempt to devour

the sun; for Brahmá denounced this curse upon them, that, without the

power to perish, they should die every day (and revive by night), and

therefore a fierce contest occurs daily between them and the sun 12.

At this season pious Brahmans scatter water, purified by the mystical

Omkára, and consecrated by the Gáyatri 13; and by this water, as by a

thunderbolt, the foul fiends are consumed. When the first oblation is

offered with solemn invocations in the morning rite 14, the

thousand-rayed deity shines forth with unclouded splendour. Omkára is

Vishn & #769;u the mighty, the substance of the three Vedas, the lord of

speech; and by its enunciation those Rákshasas are destroyed. The sun

is a principal part of Vishn & #769;u, and light is his immutable essence, the

active manifestation of which is excited by the mystic syllable Om.

Light effused by the utterance of Omkára becomes radiant, and burns up

entirely the Rákshasas called Mandehas. The performance of the Sandhya

(the morning) sacrifice must never therefore be delayed, for he who

neglects it is guilty of the murder of the sun. Protected thus by the

Brahmans and the pigmy sages called Bálakhilyas, the sun goes on his

course to give light to the world.

 

p. 223

 

Fifteen twinklings of the eye (Nimeshas) make a Kásht & #769;há; thirty

Kásht & #769;hás, a Kalá; thirty Kalás, a Muhúrtta (forty-eight minutes); and

thirty Muhúrttas, a day and night: the portions of the day are longer

or shorter, as has been explained; but the Sandhyá is always the same

in increase or decrease, being only one Muhúrtta 15. From the period

that a line may be drawn across the sun (or that half his orb is

visible) to the expiration of three Muhúrttas (two hours and

twenty-four minutes), that interval is called Prátar (morning),

forming a fifth portion of the day. The next portion, or three

Muhúrttas from morning, is termed Sangava (forenoon): the three next

Muhúrttas constitute mid-day: the afternoon comprises the next three

Muhúrttas: the three Muhúrttas following are considered as the

evening: and the fifteen Muhúrttas of the day are thus classed in five

portions of three each. But the day consists of fifteen Muhúrttas only

at the equinoxes, increasing or diminishing in number in the northern

and southern declinations of the sun, when the day encroaches on the

night, or the night upon the day. The equinoxes occur in the seasons

of spring and autumn, when the sun enters the signs of Aries and

Libra. When the sun enters Capricorn (the winter solstice), his

northern progress commences; and his southern when he enters Cancer

(the summer solstice).

 

Fifteen days of thirty Muhúrttas each are called a Paksha (a lunar

fortnight); two of these make a month; and two months, a solar season;

three seasons a northern or southern declination (Ayana); and those

two compose a year. Years, made up of four kinds of months 16, are

distinguished

 

p. 224

 

into five kinds; and an aggregate of all the varieties of time is

termed a Yoga, or cycle. The years are severally called Samvatsara,

Parivatsara, Idvatsara, Anuvatsara, and Vatsara. This is the time

called a Yuga 17.

 

The mountain range that lies most to the north (in Bhárata-varsha) is

called & #346;ringaván (the horned), from its having three principal

elevations (horns or peaks), one to the north, one to the south, and

one in the centre; the last is called the equinoctial, for the sun

arrives there in the middle of the two seasons of spring and autumn,

entering the equinoctial points in the first degree of Aries and of

Libra, and making day and night of equal duration, or fifteen

Muhúrttas each. When the sun, most excellent sage, is in the first

degree of the lunar mansion, Krittiká, and the moon is in the. fourth

of Vi & #347;ákhá, or when the sun is in the third

 

p. 225

 

degree of Vi & #347;ákhá, and the moon is in the head of Krittiká (these

positions being cotemporary with the equinoxes), that equinoctial

season is holy (and is styled the Mahávishubha, or the great equinox)

18. At this time offerings are to be presented to the gods and to the

manes, and gifts are to be made to the Brahmans by serious persons;

for such donations are productive of happiness. Liberality at the

equinoxes is always advantageous to the donor: and day and night;

seconds, minutes, and hours; intercalary months; the day of full moon

(Paurnamásí); the day of conjunction (Amávásya), when the moon rises

invisible; the day when it is first seen ( & #346;iniválí); the day when it

first disappears (Kuhú); the day when the moon is quite round (Ráká);

and the day when one digit is deficient (Anumati), are all seasons

when gifts are meritorious.

 

The sun is in his northern declination in the months Tapas, Tapasya,

Madhu, Mádhava, & #346;ukra, and & #346;uchi; and in his southern in those of

Nabhas, Nabhasya, Isha, Úrja, Sahas, Sahasya 19.

 

On the Lokáloka mountain, which I have formerly described to you.

......................................................................

 

-- Deito

 

Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam.

[Guest guest]

Dear Deito,

 

I am telling you what i feel. It might be right or wrong. Since you

asked for hari to show himself. He showed you., That is he showed him

in a big manner of cosmic. If you draw in a big paper what you have

mentioned about the geography. You may get the picture of hari. Then

interpet with the things you watch or may be, there might be some

doubt you may had in your past. so think well and you may get the

answer to that question which you may have asked hari too.

 

 

Next talking to crow. Why you feel that different? To me it allways

happens as if i am speaking to the god. But i don't see the picture of

god and just talk. I sit in sofa and just talk and answers are replyed

by her and when i follow, it gives me good results. Try to talk. May

be hari is talking through crow. Speak with love and show it.

 

Sarvamaatha.

[Guest guest]

Dear Mayandi,

 

first of all thanks , because you atleast took my words seriously,

because i was feeling that people will think i am mad and will never

take my words seriously.

 

Actually, What i meant was i feel as if the animals are listening to

me, and everyone is listening to me, without me speaking by words.

 

I never spoke to them by words, but i wanted to ask them something

just by my thought, and they seem to understand me.

 

For example, see yesterday i was waiting for my office Car, and i

saw a cow searchign for food, and looked sad to me, i spoke in mind,

that neither you nor me, find this place fit. Our place is

different, you are so close to Lord, and i am sure i am also loved

by him.. so we need to go home as soon as possible.

 

Please know that all these things i never spoke in words or

something, just in my mind, my thought was this.

 

Than the cow came to me very close, and sat down exactly facing me,

the cow which was on the other side of the rad, in a corner,

directly came to me.

 

Did you understand what i am telling, i am not able to think

anythign myself, if i think something, which is related to some,

than all those will know what i am thinking.

 

the same thing happenned with the crow... so what i am doing now is

trying to stop thinking about ANYTHING else other than Lord. because

i have no problem, If he knows about my distress and everythign

else, whcih is personal. I don't want others to know this.

 

Thanks for the upper part you spoke, yes may be everythign is in

him, and i am not able to understand this. and even more funnier

thing, is that Even i do not know if you are right or wrong, because

i myself, do not know what is right. what can you expect form such a

confused being.

 

-- Deito

 

Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam.

 

, sarvamaatha <no_reply wrote:

>

> Dear Deito,

>

> I am telling you what i feel. It might be right or wrong. Since

[Guest guest]

Dear Deito,

 

 

About the crow, I mean by thoughts not words. Any sad or any

happiness i share to god and just talk to him. I sometimes think

wall as god and have talked( in sense i think and talk in my heart

as if i am talking to god directly by thinking wall as god) and i

get lots of advice how to be and all. Later in days i could feel

that Shakthi was sitting near to me in the sofa and talking to me.

All these are happening in thoughts through my heart. I could even

feel the vibration. Still now when i leave my house. There would be

no one in house, But i could feel she is in my house and tell her

bye as loudly as that of i talk to others with words.( only this

with words)I nevermind what others think of it. sometimes, i tell it

by thoughts or from my heart.

 

Regarding cosmic, after writing to you, by evening i thought that

duruva was the agya chara of shree hari and Sun is the heart of

shree hari. I don't know it is right or wrong. I am writting here

what i felt when i was just thinking of it. Thought to share.

 

Sarvamaatha.

[Guest guest]

yes mine is similar, and the only difference, is that is see

response.. so now i have got somewhat feeling that these responses

are true..

 

I guess, really these guys are understanding my mind... but how do i

prevent it... how can i prevent such pervasion of my mind, by anyone

and everyone.

 

seems liek my mind is clear and open t anyone to see into it and

understand what i am thinkign or what i am feeling.... this makes me

feel insecure..

 

don't you think so... even the cow knows whats in my mind.. i dont

want anyone other than hari to know whats going on inside..

offcourse he is omnipresent.. but still .. i dont want all these

things to know all my feelings .. bcoz i feel insecure.

 

if you know any method, to protect my thoughts.. please tell me.

 

-- Deito ( also i have left some slokas for you dear mayandi, see

below, it is the first para of " Hari Stotra " ... it is very

auspicious )

 

Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam.

 

Jagajjalapalam kachad kanda malam,

Sarahandraphalam mahadaithyakalam,

Nabho neelakayam duravaramayam,

Supadmasahayam Bajeham Bajeham

 

Means

 

I worship and worship him,

Who is the protector of the world,

Who wears shining garland on his neck,

Who has a forehead like autumn moon,

Who is the god of death to great asuras,

Who has the blue colour of the sky,

Who has unstoppable powers of illusion,

And who is the helper to Goddess Lakshmi

 

 

 

, sarvamaatha <no_reply wrote:

 

> About the crow, I mean by thoughts not words. Any sad or any

> happiness i share to god and just talk to him. I sometimes think

[Guest guest]

Dear Deito,

 

That was lovely to know about shree hari. Thanks for it. Deito as

far as i have noticed, Only when we talk to them first, they talk to

us. IF you feel insecure, then don't say or talk anything about it

other than hari.I feel like you are confusing your thoughts. When

you talk to cow with thoughts, it is your love unknowingly came from

you and showed towards cow and it shows back to you, as it can only

show it, not talk to us.Even with the crow, you showed affection

unknowingly, it came to you.when you sleep, it went.

 

When you are not able to understand the cosmic which you see in

meditation. Ask hari, that you are a child to him, how can a child

can understand all these and tell him to let you know what exactly

hari wanted to convey you.Only you ask him, the questions are

answered.Please note all the actions which you made about this

cosmic. I feel like, in your eagerness, you started to think. At

times you have to relax your mind and thoughts. so you may get

answer. you are keeping your mind working like 24 hours.( Sorry if i

hurt you by this, i said what i felt. This may also be the reason

for deley in getting answer.)

 

Did you make a picture of what you explained and do let us know what

exactly you find it?So we also will enjoy it.

 

" don't you think so... even the cow knows whats in my mind.. i dont

want anyone other than hari to know whats going on inside..

offcourse he is omnipresent. . but still .. i dont want all these

things to know all my feelings .. bcoz i feel insecure. "

 

What made you feel insecure with the cow? Have you thought this?

What does kevalam means?

 

Sarvamaatha.

[Guest guest]

no, i am not insecure of exactly that cow... lol .. what i mean is,

today even crows and cows can comprehend, tomorrow even humans will

be able to comprehend .. and imagine if every human just by seeing

me understands what is going on inside.

 

But you were right. due to curiosity .. i try to apply my own

limited thoughts.. may be that is the reason .. and again as you

state, my dear mayandi, correct you are in telling that only he can

make me understand what he wants..

 

> other than hari.I feel like you are confusing your thoughts.

 

Yes, very true, i told this already, i always get confused with my

thoughts, and may be now i feel, the very process of igniting a

thought, to comprehend the divine is currupting by its nature.

 

because my thoughs would be so limited and if i try to use it as a

weapon to understand the marks of unlimited.. dosent make sense..

only the unlimited can make me understand his appearances.

 

I myself had told before, that he is the only kshetragna, but see i

again forgot myself.

 

-- Deito

 

Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam.

 

, sarvamaatha <no_reply wrote:

>

> Dear Deito,

>

> That was lovely to know about shree hari. Thanks for it. Deito as

[Guest guest]

Dear Deito,

 

> no, i am not insecure of exactly that cow... lol .. what i mean is,

> today even crows and cows can comprehend, tomorrow even humans will

> be able to comprehend .. and imagine if every human just by seeing

> me understands what is going on inside.

>

 

If this is a case to me like someone can see what i am thinking off.

first sure i feel insecure, But at the time, i leave it god and face

it whatever comes to me. who knows it might also be test from god.

 

Next in the begining you said don't be mad at you for what you said

about crow and cow. Don't you realised, if you really think if

people will be mad at you, first place you would have not written in

here. It shows how you are facing it indirectly without knowing by

yourself. That's why i said watch your actions and thoughts. After

watching it don't get excited. Because your excitement start to make

actions without thinking it and finally end up sad( like you said

for cosmic). Before starting be relax and pray god and then make

your thoughts. You would get a clear mind and get your answers

easily. So this way you will not confuse your thoughts.

 

when you feel that insecure, think of hari and say to him and

finally say i have left everything in his feet and then he will take

care it.Don't think i am forceing you in this. I am telling what i

know and i don't know any other method for this. Upto your

hands. .

 

What do you mean by " kshetragna " ?? Atually i didn't understand the

vishnu purana( yet too.. lolz) But when i read your reply to

aradhana, and when i look about vishnu purana what you said. I

thought that may be hari is trying to show himself in cosmic. The

description which given was like map. So thought like that way. But

please do let me know when you find the answer.I would be so happy.

 

Sarvamaatha.

[Guest guest]

Dear Mayandi,

 

Hear form me what ever i know, i am happ yto describe this to you,

as the very subject is close to my heart.

 

Once, Saunaka Muni asked holy sage Pippalada of the Angiras Gotra,

various enquires about the Soul, and The different ways of Nirguna

Dhyana , and also the seats of Manifestation.

 

IN this regards, Highly pleased Pippalada Muni, started explaining

his subsequent enquires. This is recorded in Brahmopanishad and is

taken athoritative for Nirguna Dhyana.

 

These explaination about the Human body and its constitution is

nothign less than excellend, and by his grace is comprehendable by

mere mortals.

 

Here in this regards, There is an instance when he explains the

following :

 

" He who knows thus about the manifest, obtains Brahma, the Supreme,

the support of all things, and the Kshetragna (witness, or the real

owner who can verify teh correctness... this is possible for the

owner of the manifest). The Purusha has four seats, — navel, heart,

neck, and head . "

 

and this is also confirmed in VishnuSahashranama, in The 16th Name

of the Lord, which is also kshetragna.

 

Hence only at his will, can one get real knowledge and only by his

witness can that knowledge be verified to be correct.

 

Thanks for asking me such a great topic... because of you, i

remembered Brahmopanishad, though i do nto intend to walk such a

path, Its always most exiting are his features and dynamics.

 

-- Deito

 

Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam.

 

, sarvamaatha <no_reply wrote:

> vishnu purana( yet too.. lolz) But when i read your reply to

> aradhana, and when i look about vishnu purana what you said. I

> thought that may be hari is trying to show himself in cosmic. The

> description which given was like map. So thought like that way.

But

> please do let me know when you find the answer.I would be so happy.

>

> Sarvamaatha.

>

[Guest guest]

Also Mayandi, i foudn another sloka form vishnu Purana..

 

I have translation below, it is sloka : 232. this makes me really

feel better.

 

" The sun is sustained by Dhruva with the strings of control; and

Dhruva is supported by the celestial porpoise-shaped sphere, which

is one with Náráyanìa. Náráyanìa, the primeval existent, and eternally

enduring, seated in the heart of the stellar sphere, in the ocean of

milk, is the supporter of all beings. "

 

see now we are able to comprehend soemthing... So better than

thinking i should just meditate on the Lord... my great Divine..

 

My heart is filled with Love, today , Hari is dancing and making me

dance in my heart.. i will come and wirte a lot of stuff... I will

be back shortly.. i will write all the glories i can remeber about

my hari.. be careful .. this thread may get flooded with too many

messages.

 

-- Deito

 

, deito01 <no_reply wrote:

>

> Dear Mayandi,

>

> Hear form me what ever i know, i am happ yto describe this to you,

[Guest guest]

Shaantakaram Bhujagashayanam Padmanaabham Suresham

Vishwadhaaram Gaganasadhrasham Megavarnam Shubangam.

Lakshmikantam Kamalanayanam Yogibhridhyaanagamyam

Vande Vishnum BHavahayaharam Sarvalokaikanatham.

 

How beautiful is this sloka .. this dosent need translation.. i

guess whole world knows this

 

every one knows, and many have todl it millions of times still.. i

love to write and listen to this one..

 

 

The follwoing form Brahma Samitha is also beautiful. Thsi is part of

the prayers offerred by Brahma to Hari.

 

yam krodha-kama-sahaja-pranayadi-bhuti-

vatsalya-moha-guru-gaurava-sevya-bhavaih

sancintya tasya sadrsim tanum apur ete

govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami

 

Whoever serves Govinda and adheres to any of these types of moods in

relation to Krishna, such as krodha (anger), kama (desire for sense

gratification), sahaja pranaya (natural friendly love), and so

forth, will one day attain perfection.

 

Different people have different types of relationships with

Narayana, and through this relation they attain Him. Brahma says in

this verse that one who comes to Hari must one day attain

perfection; there is no doubt about it. The type of sraddha one has

in his heart determines what type of perfection he ultimately

attains.

 

very beautiful indeed

 

-- Deito

 

Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam.

 

, deito01 <no_reply wrote:

>

> Also Mayandi, i foudn another sloka form vishnu Purana..

[Guest guest]

See this beautiful sloka upholding his supremacy .

 

 

Rigvedhapi Yajurveda Sama vedhopyadharvana,

Adheenasthana yenoktham hari rithyakshara dwayam. 4

 

Rig Veda, Yajur Veda,

Sama Veda and Atharvana Veda,

Become themselves his,

Who chants the two letters Hari.

 

And see how merciful Hari , my father is.. can anyone match him..

obviously not.

 

Harir harathi dushta chithair api smrutha,

Anichayapi samsprushto dahathyevahi pavaka. 1

 

Hari removes sins even from,

The bad ones meditating on him,

Similar to the fire burning any one,

Who touches it without even realizing it.

 

 

These two are form the Rig Veda. I Love Rig Veda.

 

very beautiful.. . I am going for meditating on Hari .. will get

back soon guys .

 

 

-- Deito

 

 

, deito01 <no_reply wrote:

>

> Also Mayandi, i foudn another sloka form vishnu Purana..

>

[Guest guest]

, deito01 <no_reply wrote:

>

> Shaantakaram Bhujagashayanam Padmanaabham Suresham

> Vishwadhaaram Gaganasadhrasham Megavarnam Shubangam.

> Lakshmikantam Kamalanayanam Yogibhridhyaanagamyam

> Vande Vishnum BHavahayaharam Sarvalokaikanatham.

>

>

 

Dear deito,

 

Please explain the above sloga. I never know the meaning for any sloga

which i read in sanskrit.I learn this sloga through cassette. First i

didn't even had lyrics. later i bought a book and read along with it.

But it didn't have any meaning for this sloga. Thanks deito.

 

 

Sarvamaatha.

[Guest guest]

Dear Mayandi, here's the translation. I just want to spread petals of

lotus in abundance, at his feet ... and want to tell this verse to Hari.

 

My Humble salutations to

 

" Lord Vishnu, the One Master of the Universe, who is ever peaceful,

who reclines on the great serpent bed, from whose navel springs the

Lotus of the Creative Power, who is the Supreme Being, who supports

the entire universe, who is all-pervading and has entered into

everything, whose color is dark like the new rain clouds and has a

beautiful form; the Lord of Lakshmi, the lotus-eyed One, whom the

yogis are able to perceive through meditation, He, who is the

destroyer of the fear of cycle of rebirth and worldly suffering. "

 

 

 

, sarvamaatha <no_reply wrote:

>

> , deito01 <no_reply@> wrote:

> >

> > Shaantakaram Bhujagashayanam Padmanaabham Suresham

> > Vishwadhaaram Gaganasadhrasham Megavarnam Shubangam.

> > Lakshmikantam Kamalanayanam Yogibhridhyaanagamyam

> > Vande Vishnum BHavahayaharam Sarvalokaikanatham.

> >

> >

>

> Dear deito,

>

> Please explain the above sloga. I never know the meaning for any sloga

> which i read in sanskrit.I learn this sloga through cassette. First i

> didn't even had lyrics. later i bought a book and read along with it.

> But it didn't have any meaning for this sloga. Thanks deito.

>

>

> Sarvamaatha.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear deito,

 

 

I am so thankfull for your beautifull explanation deito. It's like a

gift from god, today i know the meaning for that particular sloga

through you.

 

wishes,

Sarvamaatha.

[Guest guest]

Dear Mayandi, I have been more blessed, for the lord has given me the

oppurtunity to share my minute knowledge about him, to a sweet devotee

like you.

 

and these words are flowing from my heart with every swara, in the

mode f thanksgiving to you, my dear Mayandi.

 

-- Deito

 

Gunatwam Harihi, Nirgunatwam Cha Harihi.

Sarvam harihi, Sarvasya Natham Harihi.

 

I have composed this for Dearest Hari, My father who is without bound

of any duty, but still is workign hard without any rest, performing

all his duties, As a perfect Yogi, Just to Deliver the fallen souls ,

his son's . who have been bitten by the rotten snake of Material

Desire and show the right way to us. Selflessness personified is

defined by His actions and nothing else , and this is for sure Mayandi.

 

 

Mayandi, Teh sloka i composed means means

 

" All the manifested gunas, for execution of control by Maya,is also

Hari, and The one without any Guna is also Hari, Everything is Hari

and The master of that Everythign is also Hari "

 

Is this nice Mayandi, did you like it,

 

Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam.

 

 

 

, sarvamaatha <no_reply wrote:

>

> Dear deito,

>

>

> I am so thankfull for your beautifull explanation deito. It's like a

> gift from god, today i know the meaning for that particular sloga

> through you.

>

> wishes,

> Sarvamaatha.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear deito,

 

I could not understand what you written below..

 

> all his duties, As a perfect Yogi, Just to Deliver the fallen

souls ,

> his son's . who have been bitten by the rotten snake of Material

> Desire and show the right way to us. Selflessness personified is

> defined by His actions and nothing else , and this is for sure

Mayandi.

>

>

> Mayandi, Teh sloka i composed means means

>

> " All the manifested gunas, for execution of control by Maya,is

also

> Hari, and The one without any Guna is also Hari, Everything is Hari

> and The master of that Everythign is also Hari "

>

 

I only understand " Sarvam harihi " that everything is hari itself.

One question deito. When you think everything is hari, even your

feeling of insecure is also hari. Didn't you think that? Please let

me know if i ask too much. I will decrease it.

 

Sarvamaatha.

[Guest guest]

yes Mayandi, you are so true, i was thinking same thing..

 

see the words you read now, are based upon scriptures, and hence it is

so correct.

 

but some times ,in excitation, see i try to use my limited

intelligence and try to derive understanding, and hence resulted in

confusion.

 

hence i told he is the only Kshetragna and hence only he can validate

my understanding, if i try to validate , i will only confuse myself..

, and what i have derived will always only confuse me and do no better

than increasing my ocnfusion.

 

I agree with this and i am making conscious effort, for depending on

him solely for all thoughts and understanding.

 

> I only understand " Sarvam harihi " that everything is hari itself.

 

 

the sloka i composed is :

 

Gunatwam Harihi, Nirgunatwam Cha Harihi.

Sarvam harihi, Sarvasya Natham Harihi.

 

Gunatwam Harihi = The illustration of gunas ( Viz Sat guna, Rajo guna

and tamo guna) used for operation of this material manifest is also Hari.

 

Nirgunatwam Cha Harihi = The illustration of existence of modelesness

or wihtout the effect of any of these modes, OR IN SIMPLE WORDS, The

Spiritual Realm ... is ALSO ( Cha means ALSO ) Hari himself.

 

Sarvam Harihi = Everythign is Harihi.

 

Sarvasya Natham Harihi = This " Everything " Personified, which i stated

above, which is also hari, is also controlled by Hari OR Hari si

the mater of " Everything " whcih is inturn hari himselff.

 

 

 

Am i able to convey the deep meaning i have accurately assembled into

these words, froming a small sloka for My Lord, My father My Lotus

Eyes Hari ..

 

 

Is this beautiful.. please understand and tell me if my sloka is

beautiful.....MAINLY I WANT TO KNOW IS THIS WORTHY OF BEING OFFERRED

TO HARI...

 

 

Dear Aradhana, and Dear Mayandi, Dear Aum and all others, please let

me know .. if this is anywhere worthy of being used to praise my

Revered Lord.

 

 

-- Deito

[Guest guest]

Dear deito,

 

It was such a lovely and cute little poem. It shows how you have

admired him in your heart.

 

Wishes,

Sarvamaatha.

[Guest guest]

, deito01 <no_reply wrote:

>

> yes Mayandi, you are so true, i was thinking same thing..

>

> Dear Aradhana, and Dear Mayandi, Dear Aum and all others, please let

> me know .. if this is anywhere worthy of being used to praise my

> Revered Lord.

>

>

> -- Deito

>Thanks Dieto, I feel comfortable with your outlook. Your thoughts

coincide with mine. I understand that you love Hari.According to my

thoughts Dieto, there is nothing that is there is no praise that is

worthy enough to be offered to God.Its just that Hari is so sweet

that he accepts our inadequate feelings and words. Shesha with his

thousand mouths can not praise Hari enough nor can Saraswati Maata.

They too loose thier heart in love while in thier efforts to praise

him. No one has been able to praise him well enough be it the Vedas

who forever sing his praises or offer him stuti. Offering him your

praises you can go mad in love those praises are so strong even when

you can praise him so little.Its his greatness that he accepts even

from unworthy people like us and gives us greatest rewards ie his

bhakti. We can never be sure that any praiseis good enough for him we

can only remember that its all we can do, its our duty to try to

offer him stuti which we should never feel tired of doing.

 

" tere rup anup ki shobha ko;

tere sundar swarrop ki shobha ko rishi muni naa sake batla "

then who are we??

 

I think you understand Hindi Dieto.

I feel like praising God but I am so sinful that I am not even able

to praise him as you do. Atleast you are able to praise him. My mind

is too small and Hari is so great. I am so wretched that I can not

even praise him. Bless me my Lord so that I can praise you even

though my praises can not ever be worthy of being called praises. But

without praising you how will I live?