plz help me

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dear co sadhakas,

pranam

i know it seems foolish at first instance....but could you plz let me

know how to sustain deep love, shradhha and devotion without any

break, not even for a moment? this holds importance if someone is on

this path for years , have deep faith and yet his is

disturbed by some negative thoughts which are not from his chitta,

thoughts of sudden vicharas, sometime....knocking and distracting him

from this highest path..

thoughts like: its all philosphy....neti neti...nothing is absolute,

try hard to have glimpse of the ultimate truth and then have shradhha,

without reaching destination this all is meaning less etc etc.

 

but how to reach the destination without it....impossible, when the

road itself is the destination, is not it?

 

how to ignore such thoughts and remain all the time in aseeem love and

shradhhaa?

 

plz help,

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, " jigyaasuu " <jigyaasuu wrote:

> i know it seems foolish at first instance....but could you plz let

me

> know how to sustain deep love, shradhha and devotion without any

>

Dear Jigyasu,

 

First no question is foolish here... even the simplest looking

questions sometimes force us to think deeply inside and we come up

with many responses.

 

Keeping deep faith..continuously is not possible practically. It

is only when a Bhakta reaches on very high ladders of surrender that

he has this non-breaking shraddha.

 

In the beginning days, we do have shraddha, but our actions are

affected by many factors...like our past karma, our sanskars, our

environment, the depth of our faith and grace of god.

 

Now in the beginning we can not have all these factors to our

favour...and whenever something goes wrong, our faith is shaken...we

always think - Ohh how much i loved God and looks he did this to me.

 

The key is to understand god's love first. If a Bhakta has a

feeling that since he loves God, now nothing bad will happen to

him..must understand God is not there to fight our personal wars.

We have to face the bad situations...and sometimes God deliberately

creates such situations for us,...to clear us of our bad karma, and

to put our faith in him.

 

So there are three stages of Sadhna

 

1- We realise that god has started caring for our needs and sadhna

 

2- we realise that not even now..but when we started sadhna long

ago..god started taking all our things into his hands

 

3- We finally realise that ... irrespective of our sadhna..God had

always been guiding us and taking us towards the heights where we

are now..

 

It is only after the 3rd stage is clearly seen, that the faith

become un-breaking.

 

Those who are bhakta and have a little hope that God will take

care of the problems...and that they would not be subject to any

tyranny...are seriously mistaken..and only such bhakta's faith is

shattered..and many of them become atheists.

 

We can further discuss this if some feed back is given.

 

Aum

[Guest guest]

>

> but how to reach the destination without it....impossible, when the

> road itself is the destination, is not it?

>

> how to ignore such thoughts and remain all the time in aseeem love

and

> shradhhaa?

>

> plz help,

>namaste. This is natural. Because of past karmas and vikaaras that are

very strong we are bound to be distracted from sadhna my such

negativities. However a sadhak suffers viyog because of these

negativities and his suffering burns his karma and leads him closer to

God. This is an inseperable part of sadhna. These negativities sooner

or later you will try to counteract because of your love for sadhna and

you will win over them only after strugglng and suffering much

 

Lord Krishna says- I never stopped you loving for a moment but I

disappeared because when I do so a devotee becomes like a pauper who

had just gained some wealth and lost it.

So in this worry and difficulty as to how he can not be seperated from

divinity even for a moment he becomes closer to God. You have no choice

but to embrace pain if you want oneness. Because then you will be one

forever.

 

Saint Mira sings-

 

" the unripe mango of love is very bitter in the beginning but later

its very sweet "

it means that in early stages of purification there us extreme

difficulty but later there is eternal bliss and oneness.

 

The scriptures say that whatever difficulties we have to bear in sadhna

we should face with courage for we are actually giving very little to

get back a lot

 

Any way I can understand your concern but you have to cope with this

situation as all other sadhaks have to. Who ever said that shraddha and

love are easy and that too after repeated cycles of birth and deaths

and lack of love.The thirst devours you only then you can quench your

thirst.

 

The greater is viyog, the greater becomes love I think

 

Hare Rama

[Guest guest]

Dear fellow devotee, Jai Shri Ram! Are you a beginner, or have

travelled some distnce? Revered Aum has cleared your doubts nicely.

I would like to add a little. During sadhana, interception by

thoughts, good or bad, is inevitable and unavoidable. They are bound

to interfere as they are produced in 'mind'. Mind is ocean of

thoughts and one can not predict what thought will come at what

time. Though thoughts are incessantly encroaching, don't leave

sadhana or meditation. Let the thoughts go freely. Only one thought

will come and play at one time. Just watch its activities and at the

end when mind will take a little pause, as it'what did you get out

of this?'. Follow this method for other thoughts and the mind will

have no answer. it will automatically shy and keep quiet and day by

day the frequency will be reducing slowly but certainly. Note that

one can not control the mind at any time, except change in the way

of thinking and way of worship. Revered Guru will guide in this

matter in better way. In mean time we can apply this method.

Quietness of mind is God's gift. If you study Shreemad Bhagaad Gita,

especially chapter 6, you can get some idea to control mind. Don't

worry and don't leave sadhana. (Sadhana group also). Heartful

regards.

-- In , " jigyaasuu " <jigyaasuu wrote:

>

> dear co sadhakas,

> pranam

> i know it seems foolish at first instance....but could you plz let