Acts against conversions

March 12, 2008

As a measure to protect Hinduism from the onslaught of the christianity, I feel

that some acts should be talken legally. What I mean is,

1. Hindu names

Most of the convert christian names remain the same old Hindu names except for a

few change of initials. For example, Ramkumar initially g.. Ramkumar i.e. george

Ramkumar later.

So maybe we should go for something like a patent against our Hindu names. A

person from other faith should not have Hindu names.

2. Imitations

Recently while travelling around Chennai-one of the worst affected place, I came

across a picture where a Brahmin half immersed in the river and with hands

folded exactly similar to our culture - but the change was, the " God " in front

of him was mary. I was rather aghast at seeing this.

Some rule should be brought against usage of our culture in their propogation

process.

3. Abuse

A few days ago while surfing at liesure, I came across a website which

explicitly condemned Hinduism. Unfortunately I couldn't note down the link.

However what it meant was, our relegion preaches what is called " reincarnation " .

Wherein a human will certainly take a rebirth maybe in any form say a bug to

once again a human. They claim that if at all it was true, the population of the

world should be ever increasing and the christian form where the dead goes to

either heaven or hell is true.

Clearly " reincarnation " has a lot in it and the dictionary meaning of it cannot

be assumed.

Atleast these explicit abuses must be stopped.

4.

I don't which category to put this under. During the last Ganesh chaturthi,

while travelling in the streets of Bangalore I noticed a strange thing. A lot of

small pendals similar to the Ganesh pendals were arranged, They were very much

similar from outside but inside you will find an infant jesus or mary shrine and

every evenings a lorry will arrive with lot of eatable, cloths and all such

stuff which will be distributed freely.

5. Sermons and preachers

Things from our religion will be explicitly degraded in many of these.

Shockingly, once while browsing through the channels, I saw some sermon and

watched it for some time. Here they stated that just kept on making fun of the

Ramayana and Mahabharath. For example a stone turning into women with the touch

of Lord Rama.

6. School syllabus

This is one of the very crucial thing which needs some serious step. I really

don't understand the depth of the christian influence. In one of the lesson I

remember, it was against the myths and beliefs of our religion. Here the author

goes to Satya Sai Baba who is known to give ashes and some prasad miraculosly

from nowhere. The author asks the lord to give him a pumpkin.

Whereas the buggers jesus and allah are portrayed as greatest of the great

social reformers.

I have never studied any lesson about Lord Ram or Krishna.

However if the government is not interested to introduce the religion factor,

There are lot of things like the great social reformers Vivekananda, Ramakrishna

Paramhamsa etc.

Concluding, I feel there are still a lot of such factors which needs to be

implemented.

I invite suggestions, critisisms and any sort of feedback from you.

Sriharsha. S

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March 12, 2008

Agree.

But the demand fmust come from the so called hundreds of millions of mentally

dead Hindus.

Our religious leaders and educated hindu leaders should demand, chalk-out and

implement them solidly.

But for all mentally dead hindus, religion is thev last straw.

Actually Hindus don't have any emotional relation and connection to their

faith.

In fact if you ask Hindus why they have not converted , their general

complaint is " we are not approached by any Christian group', otherwise they are

ready to convert.

Fundamental problem

The fundamental problem is religion Hindu is not instutionalized and

systematized at all.

Hindus are never taught by their parents and we don't have a system of

attending faith discourses. Blame falls on our current Peethadipathis, Swamis

and so called Ammas and other religious leaders.

We are never taught pride of our religion.

The biggest problem is we teach " all religions are equal and all lead to the

same God at the end " . The whole problem is here. It is absolute nonsense.

If you are taught that " Hindu religion is superior and complete and no other

religion is worth the name and they are defective and with full violence " , then

when you grow you build pride also in your religion.

We never taught relgious conversion. But if you are taught " relgious

conversion is a great service to your faith, God takes to Heaven for every one

conversion and it is a religious duty " . If you leave Hinduism, then you and your

family will go to Hell " , then things whould have been different.

So problem is within our faith.

All the spiritual leaders like Swami Vivekananda, Saibaba, ISKCON celebrate

Christimas!

So again, the problem is with us.

Best Regards

Srinivas K

sripathi sriharsha <sripathi1 wrote:

As a measure to protect Hinduism from the onslaught of the

christianity, I feel that some acts should be talken legally. What I mean is,

1. Hindu names

Most of the convert christian names remain the same old Hindu names except for a

few change of initials. For example, Ramkumar initially g.. Ramkumar i.e. george

Ramkumar later.

So maybe we should go for something like a patent against our Hindu names. A

person from other faith should not have Hindu names.

2. Imitations

Recently while travelling around Chennai-one of the worst affected place, I came

across a picture where a Brahmin half immersed in the river and with hands

folded exactly similar to our culture - but the change was, the " God " in front

of him was mary. I was rather aghast at seeing this.

Some rule should be brought against usage of our culture in their propogation

process.

3. Abuse

A few days ago while surfing at liesure, I came across a website which

explicitly condemned Hinduism. Unfortunately I couldn't note down the link.

However what it meant was, our relegion preaches what is called " reincarnation " .

Wherein a human will certainly take a rebirth maybe in any form say a bug to

once again a human. They claim that if at all it was true, the population of the

world should be ever increasing and the christian form where the dead goes to

either heaven or hell is true.

Clearly " reincarnation " has a lot in it and the dictionary meaning of it cannot

be assumed.

Atleast these explicit abuses must be stopped.

4.

I don't which category to put this under. During the last Ganesh chaturthi,

while travelling in the streets of Bangalore I noticed a strange thing. A lot of

small pendals similar to the Ganesh pendals were arranged, They were very much

similar from outside but inside you will find an infant jesus or mary shrine and

every evenings a lorry will arrive with lot of eatable, cloths and all such

stuff which will be distributed freely.

5. Sermons and preachers

Things from our religion will be explicitly degraded in many of these.

Shockingly, once while browsing through the channels, I saw some sermon and

watched it for some time. Here they stated that just kept on making fun of the

Ramayana and Mahabharath. For example a stone turning into women with the touch

of Lord Rama.

6. School syllabus

This is one of the very crucial thing which needs some serious step. I really

don't understand the depth of the christian influence. In one of the lesson I

remember, it was against the myths and beliefs of our religion. Here the author

goes to Satya Sai Baba who is known to give ashes and some prasad miraculosly

from nowhere. The author asks the lord to give him a pumpkin.

Whereas the buggers jesus and allah are portrayed as greatest of the great

social reformers.

I have never studied any lesson about Lord Ram or Krishna.

However if the government is not interested to introduce the religion factor,

There are lot of things like the great social reformers Vivekananda, Ramakrishna

Paramhamsa etc.

Concluding, I feel there are still a lot of such factors which needs to be

implemented.

I invite suggestions, critisisms and any sort of feedback from you.

Sriharsha. S

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March 13, 2008

Dear Sripath and other devotees ,Namaskaarams,

Kindly go through Old Testament .The word " Prostitute " or " Harlot " comes more

than 100 times. The incidences of daughter in law begetting a child from father

in law (to propagate geneology), polyandry and polygamy are so many that a

Christian priests gave me a spiritual meaning. Jesus Christ is born in the

geneology of Rahab a prostitute of Jericho.

Real Christians do not indulge in conversions through inducements and bad

propaganda agaist Hindu scriptures.

Converting Hindus through inducement is already illegal and is done by paid

pseudo christians of fragile faith.

Hinduism is broad minded and we can light a candle before Virgin Mary without

facing excommunication

yours

ijswamy.

sripathi sriharsha <sripathi1 wrote:

As a measure to protect Hinduism from the onslaught of the

christianity, I feel that some acts should be talken legally. What I mean is,

1. Hindu names

Most of the convert christian names remain the same old Hindu names except for a

few change of initials. For example, Ramkumar initially g.. Ramkumar i.e. george

Ramkumar later.

So maybe we should go for something like a patent against our Hindu names. A

person from other faith should not have Hindu names.

2. Imitations

Recently while travelling around Chennai-one of the worst affected place, I came

across a picture where a Brahmin half immersed in the river and with hands

folded exactly similar to our culture - but the change was, the " God " in front

of him was mary. I was rather aghast at seeing this.

Some rule should be brought against usage of our culture in their propogation

process.

3. Abuse

A few days ago while surfing at liesure, I came across a website which

explicitly condemned Hinduism. Unfortunately I couldn't note down the link.

However what it meant was, our relegion preaches what is called " reincarnation " .

Wherein a human will certainly take a rebirth maybe in any form say a bug to

once again a human. They claim that if at all it was true, the population of the

world should be ever increasing and the christian form where the dead goes to

either heaven or hell is true.

Clearly " reincarnation " has a lot in it and the dictionary meaning of it cannot

be assumed.

Atleast these explicit abuses must be stopped.

4.

I don't which category to put this under. During the last Ganesh chaturthi,

while travelling in the streets of Bangalore I noticed a strange thing. A lot of

small pendals similar to the Ganesh pendals were arranged, They were very much

similar from outside but inside you will find an infant jesus or mary shrine and

every evenings a lorry will arrive with lot of eatable, cloths and all such

stuff which will be distributed freely.

5. Sermons and preachers

Things from our religion will be explicitly degraded in many of these.

Shockingly, once while browsing through the channels, I saw some sermon and

watched it for some time. Here they stated that just kept on making fun of the

Ramayana and Mahabharath. For example a stone turning into women with the touch

of Lord Rama.

6. School syllabus

This is one of the very crucial thing which needs some serious step. I really

don't understand the depth of the christian influence. In one of the lesson I

remember, it was against the myths and beliefs of our religion. Here the author

goes to Satya Sai Baba who is known to give ashes and some prasad miraculosly

from nowhere. The author asks the lord to give him a pumpkin.

Whereas the buggers jesus and allah are portrayed as greatest of the great

social reformers.

I have never studied any lesson about Lord Ram or Krishna.

However if the government is not interested to introduce the religion factor,

There are lot of things like the great social reformers Vivekananda, Ramakrishna

Paramhamsa etc.

Concluding, I feel there are still a lot of such factors which needs to be

implemented.

I invite suggestions, critisisms and any sort of feedback from you.

Sriharsha. S

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March 13, 2008

I have total respect for true Christians,Muslims,BIBLE and QORAN.

IJS

sripathi sriharsha <sripathi1 wrote:

As a measure to protect Hinduism from the onslaught of the

christianity, I feel that some acts should be talken legally. What I mean is,

1. Hindu names

Most of the convert christian names remain the same old Hindu names except for a

few change of initials. For example, Ramkumar initially g.. Ramkumar i.e. george

Ramkumar later.

So maybe we should go for something like a patent against our Hindu names. A

person from other faith should not have Hindu names.

2. Imitations

Recently while travelling around Chennai-one of the worst affected place, I came

across a picture where a Brahmin half immersed in the river and with hands

folded exactly similar to our culture - but the change was, the " God " in front

of him was mary. I was rather aghast at seeing this.

Some rule should be brought against usage of our culture in their propogation

process.

3. Abuse

A few days ago while surfing at liesure, I came across a website which

explicitly condemned Hinduism. Unfortunately I couldn't note down the link.

However what it meant was, our relegion preaches what is called " reincarnation " .

Wherein a human will certainly take a rebirth maybe in any form say a bug to

once again a human. They claim that if at all it was true, the population of the

world should be ever increasing and the christian form where the dead goes to

either heaven or hell is true.

Clearly " reincarnation " has a lot in it and the dictionary meaning of it cannot

be assumed.

Atleast these explicit abuses must be stopped.

4.

I don't which category to put this under. During the last Ganesh chaturthi,

while travelling in the streets of Bangalore I noticed a strange thing. A lot of

small pendals similar to the Ganesh pendals were arranged, They were very much

similar from outside but inside you will find an infant jesus or mary shrine and

every evenings a lorry will arrive with lot of eatable, cloths and all such

stuff which will be distributed freely.

5. Sermons and preachers

Things from our religion will be explicitly degraded in many of these.

Shockingly, once while browsing through the channels, I saw some sermon and

watched it for some time. Here they stated that just kept on making fun of the

Ramayana and Mahabharath. For example a stone turning into women with the touch

of Lord Rama.

6. School syllabus

This is one of the very crucial thing which needs some serious step. I really

don't understand the depth of the christian influence. In one of the lesson I

remember, it was against the myths and beliefs of our religion. Here the author

goes to Satya Sai Baba who is known to give ashes and some prasad miraculosly

from nowhere. The author asks the lord to give him a pumpkin.

Whereas the buggers jesus and allah are portrayed as greatest of the great

social reformers.

I have never studied any lesson about Lord Ram or Krishna.

However if the government is not interested to introduce the religion factor,

There are lot of things like the great social reformers Vivekananda, Ramakrishna

Paramhamsa etc.

Concluding, I feel there are still a lot of such factors which needs to be

implemented.

I invite suggestions, critisisms and any sort of feedback from you.

Sriharsha. S

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March 13, 2008

Thats what exactly I mean. If you refer to any of the school syllabi, you will

find descriptions of " Blind Beliefs " Each and every blind belief is linked to

our religion. Recently some of the freedom fighters are being termed as

extremists.

Right from the first day the children are in one or the other way fed up with

things against our religion.

The first and foremost thing we need to develop in the current generation kids

is SELF ESTEEM. They should be proud being Hindus.

No single person should be blamed but we should unite ourselves, make forums to

discuss about our heritage, try to develop a circle of our own and not a

" social " circle. In cases of love marriages, atleast if the girl is from the

other religion, we should insist on the the girl being a Hindu instead of the

routine way.

Each and everyone should allocate some of their busy schedule for something

related to our culture. Say attending a musical function, paying a visit to a

temple, a social gathering to discuss our heritage, teaching the younger

generation about our religion.

It is never too late. If we neglect saying that no one has a self esteem being a

Hindu, the situation would be too worse. After all we should protect our culture

and pass it on the next generation if we neglect, like the roman empire, the

Hindu empire will also remain in the text books. It will be certainly picturised

as something bad. Let us not let that situation creep in.

Sriharsha. S

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I have often regretted my speech........

Never my silence....

srinivas kolluri <ksvas97

Wednesday, 12 March, 2008 8:39:15 PM

Re: Acts against conversions

Agree.

But the demand fmust come from the so called hundreds of millions of mentally

dead Hindus.

Our religious leaders and educated hindu leaders should demand, chalk-out and

implement them solidly.

But for all mentally dead hindus, religion is thev last straw.

Actually Hindus don't have any emotional relation and connection to their faith.

In fact if you ask Hindus why they have not converted , their general complaint

is " we are not approached by any Christian group', otherwise they are ready to

convert.

Fundamental problem

The fundamental problem is religion Hindu is not instutionalized and

systematized at all.

Hindus are never taught by their parents and we don't have a system of attending

faith discourses. Blame falls on our current Peethadipathis, Swamis and so

called Ammas and other religious leaders.

We are never taught pride of our religion.

The biggest problem is we teach " all religions are equal and all lead to the

same God at the end " . The whole problem is here. It is absolute nonsense.

If you are taught that " Hindu religion is superior and complete and no other

religion is worth the name and they are defective and with full violence " , then

when you grow you build pride also in your religion.

We never taught relgious conversion. But if you are taught " relgious conversion

is a great service to your faith, God takes to Heaven for every one conversion

and it is a religious duty " . If you leave Hinduism, then you and your family

will go to Hell " , then things whould have been different.

So problem is within our faith.

All the spiritual leaders like Swami Vivekananda, Saibaba, ISKCON celebrate

Christimas!

So again, the problem is with us.

Best Regards

Srinivas K

sripathi sriharsha <sripathi1 > wrote:

As a measure to protect Hinduism from the onslaught of the christianity, I feel

that some acts should be talken legally. What I mean is,

1. Hindu names

Most of the convert christian names remain the same old Hindu names except for a

few change of initials. For example, Ramkumar initially g.. Ramkumar i.e. george

Ramkumar later.

So maybe we should go for something like a patent against our Hindu names. A

person from other faith should not have Hindu names.

2. Imitations

Recently while travelling around Chennai-one of the worst affected place, I came

across a picture where a Brahmin half immersed in the river and with hands

folded exactly similar to our culture - but the change was, the " God " in front

of him was mary. I was rather aghast at seeing this.

Some rule should be brought against usage of our culture in their propogation

process.

3. Abuse

A few days ago while surfing at liesure, I came across a website which

explicitly condemned Hinduism. Unfortunately I couldn't note down the link.

However what it meant was, our relegion preaches what is called " reincarnation "

.. Wherein a human will certainly take a rebirth maybe in any form say a bug to

once again a human.. They claim that if at all it was true, the population of

the world should be ever increasing and the christian form where the dead goes

to either heaven or hell is true.

Clearly " reincarnation " has a lot in it and the dictionary meaning of it cannot

be assumed.

Atleast these explicit abuses must be stopped.

4.

I don't which category to put this under.. During the last Ganesh chaturthi,

while travelling in the streets of Bangalore I noticed a strange thing. A lot of

small pendals similar to the Ganesh pendals were arranged, They were very much

similar from outside but inside you will find an infant jesus or mary shrine and

every evenings a lorry will arrive with lot of eatable, cloths and all such

stuff which will be distributed freely.

5. Sermons and preachers

Things from our religion will be explicitly degraded in many of these.

Shockingly, once while browsing through the channels, I saw some sermon and

watched it for some time. Here they stated that just kept on making fun of the

Ramayana and Mahabharath. For example a stone turning into women with the touch

of Lord Rama.

6. School syllabus

This is one of the very crucial thing which needs some serious step. I really

don't understand the depth of the christian influence. In one of the lesson I

remember, it was against the myths and beliefs of our religion. Here the author

goes to Satya Sai Baba who is known to give ashes and some prasad miraculosly

from nowhere. The author asks the lord to give him a pumpkin.

Whereas the buggers jesus and allah are portrayed as greatest of the great

social reformers.

I have never studied any lesson about Lord Ram or Krishna.

However if the government is not interested to introduce the religion factor,

There are lot of things like the great social reformers Vivekananda, Ramakrishna

Paramhamsa etc.

Concluding, I feel there are still a lot of such factors which needs to be

implemented.

I invite suggestions, critisisms and any sort of feedback from you.

Sriharsha. S

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March 13, 2008

Sir,

I accept it. Personally I too have a lot of respect for other faiths and may not

be as in detail as you have, but I too study quite few things related to other

religous faiths-may it be any religion.

But the same soft attitude is immolating us. As Sri.Srinvas Kolluri rightly

pointed out, we are showing a soft attitude towards other faiths. What is the

result?

I have lot of friends who think like you and visit churches and mosques on their

festivals but in return? How many of them are doing the same? Are they

encouraging our faith to the same extent?

We must show a hard attitude towards other faiths not because we hate them or

they are junk, but because we need to protect our faith. Each and every faith is

unique in its own way.

First we need to stabilize our own rapidly destabilizing religion first and

later on think of something else.

Sriharsha. S

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I have often regretted my speech........

Never my silence....

J.SWAMY IRAGAVARAPU <jiragavarapu

Thursday, 13 March, 2008 9:19:27 AM

Re: Acts against conversions

I have total respect for true Christians,Muslims, BIBLE and QORAN.

IJS

sripathi sriharsha <sripathi1 > wrote:

As a measure to protect Hinduism from the onslaught of the christianity, I feel

that some acts should be talken legally. What I mean is,

1. Hindu names

Most of the convert christian names remain the same old Hindu names except for a

few change of initials. For example, Ramkumar initially g.. Ramkumar i.e. george

Ramkumar later.

So maybe we should go for something like a patent against our Hindu names. A

person from other faith should not have Hindu names.

2. Imitations

Recently while travelling around Chennai-one of the worst affected place, I came

across a picture where a Brahmin half immersed in the river and with hands

folded exactly similar to our culture - but the change was, the " God " in front

of him was mary. I was rather aghast at seeing this.

Some rule should be brought against usage of our culture in their propogation

process.

3. Abuse

A few days ago while surfing at liesure, I came across a website which

explicitly condemned Hinduism. Unfortunately I couldn't note down the link.

However what it meant was, our relegion preaches what is called " reincarnation "

.. Wherein a human will certainly take a rebirth maybe in any form say a bug to

once again a human.. They claim that if at all it was true, the population of

the world should be ever increasing and the christian form where the dead goes

to either heaven or hell is true.

Clearly " reincarnation " has a lot in it and the dictionary meaning of it cannot

be assumed.

Atleast these explicit abuses must be stopped.

4.

I don't which category to put this under.. During the last Ganesh chaturthi,

while travelling in the streets of Bangalore I noticed a strange thing. A lot of

small pendals similar to the Ganesh pendals were arranged, They were very much

similar from outside but inside you will find an infant jesus or mary shrine and

every evenings a lorry will arrive with lot of eatable, cloths and all such

stuff which will be distributed freely.

5. Sermons and preachers

Things from our religion will be explicitly degraded in many of these.

Shockingly, once while browsing through the channels, I saw some sermon and

watched it for some time. Here they stated that just kept on making fun of the

Ramayana and Mahabharath. For example a stone turning into women with the touch

of Lord Rama.

6. School syllabus

This is one of the very crucial thing which needs some serious step. I really

don't understand the depth of the christian influence. In one of the lesson I

remember, it was against the myths and beliefs of our religion. Here the author

goes to Satya Sai Baba who is known to give ashes and some prasad miraculosly

from nowhere. The author asks the lord to give him a pumpkin.

Whereas the buggers jesus and allah are portrayed as greatest of the great

social reformers.

I have never studied any lesson about Lord Ram or Krishna.

However if the government is not interested to introduce the religion factor,

There are lot of things like the great social reformers Vivekananda, Ramakrishna

Paramhamsa etc.

Concluding, I feel there are still a lot of such factors which needs to be

implemented.

I invite suggestions, critisisms and any sort of feedback from you.

Sriharsha. S

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March 13, 2008

I hope you do not have an issue with the teachings of Jesus Christ but

only with the Christians. By the details you have given, it seems that

syncretism is occurring, which means a blend between religious

traditions, such as the substitution of deities, which is most rampant

in your argument.

One must remember the words of Sri Ramakrishna " All paths lead to God. "

Yet, what seems most grotesque to you appears to be the workings of

Protestant Christianity. They are the most narrow minded of Christians

on the face of the earth. Roman Catholicism has great respect for the

Hindus, which is stated in their proceedings in Vatican II. What you

have seen are the petty interventions of lay-people rather than the

Religion of Conversion. Most converts wish to continue with the

cultural traditions and so will continue Vedic symbolism yet in a

Christian context as observed. Yet that is the doing of the convert

rather than the converter, unless the Converter is of ignorance and

therefore a blind understanding of faith, then one can make the

argument of a religious tug of war. Let me just say that the main

instigators are Protestants and narrow-minded Catholics who do not know

their own religion. Catholicism teaches more about dialogue rather than

conversion, yet the latter is encouraged in a passive sense. The days

of " going to Hell for being a gentile " are over, with the exception of

some idiots. Catholics believe that although one is Hindu, God would

judge the Hindu by the Hindu's values and beliefs.

But if they convert from Hinduism, Let them be. Most find it appalling

due to the " archaic " caste system and the seemingly chaotic pantheon of

gods worshipped by the " masses. " Rather than that, the people must be

encouraged to focus on the Yogas and philosophies that make India a gem

in the world.

Most Christian's argue against reincarnation because they state if a

soul is reincarnated, that means the soul is not created, just reborn.

If one soul is reborn, another is reborn as well. Since it all

originated from an original soul, either there is an infinity in

differentiation of the Absolute or a limited, finite amount of souls

that unceasingly are reborn except those who have transcended the wheel

of Karma....just thoughts on the debate.

March 13, 2008

Sir,

I have a question for you. A few days ago there was a similar mail saying that

Mecca was also a place where Hinduism thrived. However it is contravarsial and

setting it aside, consider Bangaladesh, Pakistan and places around. These were

all the places where once Hinduism had firmly established its roots. Today?

Don't you think it is the same soft attitude is the cause for it? Don't you feel

this attitude to be self immolating.

Either of them must be true: either our attitude is soft and needs to be changed

or other faiths are better than ours.

Or atleast my thinking is improper.

Sriharsha. S

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I have often regretted my speech........

Never my silence....

J.SWAMY IRAGAVARAPU <jiragavarapu

Thursday, 13 March, 2008 9:17:40 AM

Re: Acts against conversions

Dear Sripath and other devotees ,Namaskaarams,

Kindly go through Old Testament .The word " Prostitute " or " Harlot " comes more

than 100 times. The incidences of daughter in law begetting a child from father

in law (to propagate geneology), polyandry and polygamy are so many that a

Christian priests gave me a spiritual meaning. Jesus Christ is born in the

geneology of Rahab a prostitute of Jericho.

Real Christians do not indulge in conversions through inducements and bad

propaganda agaist Hindu scriptures.

Converting Hindus through inducement is already illegal and is done by paid

pseudo christians of fragile faith.

Hinduism is broad minded and we can light a candle before Virgin Mary without

facing excommunication

yours

ijswamy.

sripathi sriharsha <sripathi1 > wrote:

As a measure to protect Hinduism from the onslaught of the christianity, I feel

that some acts should be talken legally. What I mean is,

1. Hindu names

Most of the convert christian names remain the same old Hindu names except for a

few change of initials. For example, Ramkumar initially g.. Ramkumar i.e. george

Ramkumar later.

So maybe we should go for something like a patent against our Hindu names. A

person from other faith should not have Hindu names.

2. Imitations

Recently while travelling around Chennai-one of the worst affected place, I came

across a picture where a Brahmin half immersed in the river and with hands

folded exactly similar to our culture - but the change was, the " God " in front

of him was mary. I was rather aghast at seeing this.

Some rule should be brought against usage of our culture in their propogation

process.

3. Abuse

A few days ago while surfing at liesure, I came across a website which

explicitly condemned Hinduism. Unfortunately I couldn't note down the link.

However what it meant was, our relegion preaches what is called " reincarnation "

.. Wherein a human will certainly take a rebirth maybe in any form say a bug to

once again a human. They claim that if at all it was true, the population of the

world should be ever increasing and the christian form where the dead goes to

either heaven or hell is true.

Clearly " reincarnation " has a lot in it and the dictionary meaning of it cannot

be assumed.

Atleast these explicit abuses must be stopped.

4.

I don't which category to put this under. During the last Ganesh chaturthi,

while travelling in the streets of Bangalore I noticed a strange thing. A lot of

small pendals similar to the Ganesh pendals were arranged, They were very much

similar from outside but inside you will find an infant jesus or mary shrine and

every evenings a lorry will arrive with lot of eatable, cloths and all such

stuff which will be distributed freely.

5. Sermons and preachers

Things from our religion will be explicitly degraded in many of these.

Shockingly, once while browsing through the channels, I saw some sermon and

watched it for some time. Here they stated that just kept on making fun of the

Ramayana and Mahabharath. For example a stone turning into women with the touch

of Lord Rama.

6. School syllabus

This is one of the very crucial thing which needs some serious step. I really

don't understand the depth of the christian influence. In one of the lesson I

remember, it was against the myths and beliefs of our religion. Here the author

goes to Satya Sai Baba who is known to give ashes and some prasad miraculosly

from nowhere. The author asks the lord to give him a pumpkin.

Whereas the buggers jesus and allah are portrayed as greatest of the great

social reformers.

I have never studied any lesson about Lord Ram or Krishna.

However if the government is not interested to introduce the religion factor,

There are lot of things like the great social reformers Vivekananda, Ramakrishna

Paramhamsa etc.

Concluding, I feel there are still a lot of such factors which needs to be

implemented.

I invite suggestions, critisisms and any sort of feedback from you.

Sriharsha. S

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March 13, 2008

Dear Kolluri Srnivas, It`s very easy to disprove Christianity. Christianity

started 2008 yrs ago Islam started 600 yrs afterwards. That means according to

Christians and Muslims human beings born and dead before 2009 yrs had no way of

reaching and realising God. Such people must be in hell.

Hinduism existed since creation and has taught that God accepts any type of

devotion.

Hinduism survived Moghuls,Christians and other religeons. even with mentally

dead Hindus. I share your views but not your worry about Hinduism

Hinduism survives the conversion business as well

yours sincerely.

ijswamy

srinivas kolluri <ksvas97 wrote:

Agree.

But the demand fmust come from the so called hundreds of millions of mentally

dead Hindus.

Our religious leaders and educated hindu leaders should demand, chalk-out and

implement them solidly.

But for all mentally dead hindus, religion is thev last straw.

Actually Hindus don't have any emotional relation and connection to their faith.

In fact if you ask Hindus why they have not converted , their general complaint

is " we are not approached by any Christian group', otherwise they are ready to

convert.

Fundamental problem

The fundamental problem is religion Hindu is not instutionalized and

systematized at all.

Hindus are never taught by their parents and we don't have a system of attending

faith discourses. Blame falls on our current Peethadipathis, Swamis and so

called Ammas and other religious leaders.

We are never taught pride of our religion.

The biggest problem is we teach " all religions are equal and all lead to the

same God at the end " . The whole problem is here. It is absolute nonsense.

If you are taught that " Hindu religion is superior and complete and no other

religion is worth the name and they are defective and with full violence " , then

when you grow you build pride also in your religion.

We never taught relgious conversion. But if you are taught " relgious conversion

is a great service to your faith, God takes to Heaven for every one conversion

and it is a religious duty " . If you leave Hinduism, then you and your family

will go to Hell " , then things whould have been different.

So problem is within our faith.

All the spiritual leaders like Swami Vivekananda, Saibaba, ISKCON celebrate

Christimas!

So again, the problem is with us.

Best Regards

Srinivas K

sripathi sriharsha <sripathi1 wrote:

As a measure to protect Hinduism from the onslaught of the christianity, I feel

that some acts should be talken legally. What I mean is,

1. Hindu names

Most of the convert christian names remain the same old Hindu names except for a

few change of initials. For example, Ramkumar initially g.. Ramkumar i.e. george

Ramkumar later.

So maybe we should go for something like a patent against our Hindu names. A

person from other faith should not have Hindu names.

2. Imitations

Recently while travelling around Chennai-one of the worst affected place, I came

across a picture where a Brahmin half immersed in the river and with hands

folded exactly similar to our culture - but the change was, the " God " in front

of him was mary. I was rather aghast at seeing this.

Some rule should be brought against usage of our culture in their propogation

process.

3. Abuse

A few days ago while surfing at liesure, I came across a website which

explicitly condemned Hinduism. Unfortunately I couldn't note down the link.

However what it meant was, our relegion preaches what is called " reincarnation " .

Wherein a human will certainly take a rebirth maybe in any form say a bug to

once again a human. They claim that if at all it was true, the population of the

world should be ever increasing and the christian form where the dead goes to

either heaven or hell is true.

Clearly " reincarnation " has a lot in it and the dictionary meaning of it cannot

be assumed.

Atleast these explicit abuses must be stopped.

4.

I don't which category to put this under. During the last Ganesh chaturthi,

while travelling in the streets of Bangalore I noticed a strange thing. A lot of

small pendals similar to the Ganesh pendals were arranged, They were very much

similar from outside but inside you will find an infant jesus or mary shrine and

every evenings a lorry will arrive with lot of eatable, cloths and all such

stuff which will be distributed freely.

5. Sermons and preachers

Things from our religion will be explicitly degraded in many of these.

Shockingly, once while browsing through the channels, I saw some sermon and

watched it for some time. Here they stated that just kept on making fun of the

Ramayana and Mahabharath. For example a stone turning into women with the touch

of Lord Rama.

6. School syllabus

This is one of the very crucial thing which needs some serious step. I really

don't understand the depth of the christian influence. In one of the lesson I

remember, it was against the myths and beliefs of our religion. Here the author

goes to Satya Sai Baba who is known to give ashes and some prasad miraculosly

from nowhere. The author asks the lord to give him a pumpkin.

Whereas the buggers jesus and allah are portrayed as greatest of the great

social reformers.

I have never studied any lesson about Lord Ram or Krishna.

However if the government is not interested to introduce the religion factor,

There are lot of things like the great social reformers Vivekananda, Ramakrishna

Paramhamsa etc.

Concluding, I feel there are still a lot of such factors which needs to be

implemented.

I invite suggestions, critisisms and any sort of feedback from you.

Sriharsha. S

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Never my silence....

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March 13, 2008

Like Swami Vivekananda said, if we build Santhana Dharma with Islamic Body but

Hindu heart " , then it can survive..

sripathi sriharsha <sripathi1 wrote:

Sir,

I accept it. Personally I too have a lot of respect for other faiths and may not

be as in detail as you have, but I too study quite few things related to other

religous faiths-may it be any religion.

But the same soft attitude is immolating us. As Sri.Srinvas Kolluri rightly

pointed out, we are showing a soft attitude towards other faiths. What is the

result?

I have lot of friends who think like you and visit churches and mosques on their

festivals but in return? How many of them are doing the same? Are they

encouraging our faith to the same extent?

We must show a hard attitude towards other faiths not because we hate them or

they are junk, but because we need to protect our faith. Each and every faith is

unique in its own way.

First we need to stabilize our own rapidly destabilizing religion first and

later on think of something else.

Sriharsha. S

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I have often regretted my speech........

Never my silence....

J.SWAMY IRAGAVARAPU <jiragavarapu

Thursday, 13 March, 2008 9:19:27 AM

Re: Acts against conversions

I have total respect for true Christians,Muslims, BIBLE and QORAN.

IJS

sripathi sriharsha <sripathi1 > wrote:

As a measure to protect Hinduism from the onslaught of the christianity, I feel

that some acts should be talken legally. What I mean is,

1. Hindu names

Most of the convert christian names remain the same old Hindu names except for a

few change of initials. For example, Ramkumar initially g.. Ramkumar i.e. george

Ramkumar later.

So maybe we should go for something like a patent against our Hindu names. A

person from other faith should not have Hindu names.

2. Imitations

Recently while travelling around Chennai-one of the worst affected place, I came

across a picture where a Brahmin half immersed in the river and with hands

folded exactly similar to our culture - but the change was, the " God " in front

of him was mary. I was rather aghast at seeing this.

Some rule should be brought against usage of our culture in their propogation

process.

3. Abuse

A few days ago while surfing at liesure, I came across a website which

explicitly condemned Hinduism. Unfortunately I couldn't note down the link.

However what it meant was, our relegion preaches what is called " reincarnation "

.. Wherein a human will certainly take a rebirth maybe in any form say a bug to

once again a human.. They claim that if at all it was true, the population of

the world should be ever increasing and the christian form where the dead goes

to either heaven or hell is true.

Clearly " reincarnation " has a lot in it and the dictionary meaning of it cannot

be assumed.

Atleast these explicit abuses must be stopped.

4.

I don't which category to put this under.. During the last Ganesh chaturthi,

while travelling in the streets of Bangalore I noticed a strange thing. A lot of

small pendals similar to the Ganesh pendals were arranged, They were very much

similar from outside but inside you will find an infant jesus or mary shrine and

every evenings a lorry will arrive with lot of eatable, cloths and all such

stuff which will be distributed freely.

5. Sermons and preachers

Things from our religion will be explicitly degraded in many of these.

Shockingly, once while browsing through the channels, I saw some sermon and

watched it for some time. Here they stated that just kept on making fun of the

Ramayana and Mahabharath. For example a stone turning into women with the touch

of Lord Rama.

6. School syllabus

This is one of the very crucial thing which needs some serious step. I really

don't understand the depth of the christian influence. In one of the lesson I

remember, it was against the myths and beliefs of our religion. Here the author

goes to Satya Sai Baba who is known to give ashes and some prasad miraculosly

from nowhere. The author asks the lord to give him a pumpkin.

Whereas the buggers jesus and allah are portrayed as greatest of the great

social reformers.

I have never studied any lesson about Lord Ram or Krishna.

However if the government is not interested to introduce the religion factor,

There are lot of things like the great social reformers Vivekananda, Ramakrishna

Paramhamsa etc.

Concluding, I feel there are still a lot of such factors which needs to be

implemented.

I invite suggestions, critisisms and any sort of feedback from you.

Sriharsha. S

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March 13, 2008

Sir,

I respect Roman Catholics. They are emenable to change and accommodative. I

studied in an RCM school. My son also studied in another RCM school. We are

Hidus but very broad minded . About protestants my finding is that they are not

amenable to any change. But they are divided into hundred churches

like,Lutherans,Presbytarians,Pentecostals,Jehova`s witnesses,Christadelphians

,Seventh day adventists. Each of these protestant church interprets Bible in

their own version.

Thanks

yours truly

ijswamy

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