Question-37 - A DIFFICULT QUESTION

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, " jitendra kumar " <jtin_ja

wrote:

>

>

> AUM Sir Ji your statement is really thoughtfull . but i am in

> confusion .

>

> that is it necessary that it is Karmic Debt(marriage ,

child,...) .

> is it not possible that this situation is created by the Lord Sri

> Krishan for Him to perform Niskam karma .

>

> eg once a drunkered was lying on the road and He was trying to get

> up , but He could not . everbody was watching the show. i took him

> ionto the auto and left to his house. and i had only one thing in

my

> mind that i am loving my God. is it necessary that it was my

karmic

> debt .

>

 

 

Dear jeetu bhai ji,

 

One single karma/situation has to be viewed both in totality and in

individual terms.

 

For God all karmas are his and all situations are created by him

only. But for individual souls...it is really a question of

Choice. We have been granted free will to " Chose "

 

God puts us in a situation and presents us some solutions... all

these solutions are result of our past karmas, our environments and

our future plans.

 

When we select a solution, God never interfers in the decision, but

he has our future plans for all the choices.

 

There are innumerable souls and nature is not in a hurry so she

gives free choice to us so that different people chose differently.

 

Our small choices lead us to a definite path....although these

choices are outcome of God's will + our Karmic debts+ our

environments.

 

If we chose to be a drunkard, nature will never stop us...god will

never hold our hand while drinking...but the result of our choice

may be fatal....there too god will not interfere.

 

Karmik debts have a very strong influence upon our decisions..and

sometimes when we do a karma or do not do a karma...we feel god

decided it, but the choice was always ours...god just watches and

smiles

 

love

 

Aum

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Dear Aumji,

 

Yes indeed, I full agree especially with the way you have put it. I am

sure it answers Jitendraji's doubt too, well!

 

Regards,

 

M.S.Thimmappa.

 

 

 

 

 

, aumji <no_reply wrote:

 

> One single karma/situation has to be viewed both in totality and in

> individual terms.

>

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HARE KRISHAN ,HARE RAM

 

 

> Karmik debts have a very strong influence upon our decisions..and

> sometimes when we do a karma or do not do a karma...we feel god

> decided it, but the choice was always ours...god just watches and

> smiles

>

 

YES SIR , GREAT JNAN , THANKS FOR IT

 

Now IF the situation is LIKE THAT than what would you CHOOSE and

WHY

 

1. She is 20 and that person is 33 there is a gap of 13 years .That

person belongs to a village , where age difference matters a lot .

he is not like Sanjay Dutt , Aamir Khan ,.............. where no

body objects for these cases where they do mrriage with age

difference of 20-30 years ,...........

 

2. She is the friend of neice (bhatiji) . i do not know how She has

got the courage to do so . but it is her desire and She proposed

marriage for 2 reasons

a. love because of nature of that person and acheivements of that

person

b. She has some problem because of her family ...........

 

3. That person do not have any interest in marriage as He is happy

in the current mode of life . single living and loving with

God ,working for the Government ............ and also society has

accepted that person in that way . also He is happy in

spiritualism ............. He is upgrading day by day and He is

progressing . so He is thinking to CONTINUE in the same mode

 

4. His parents are not happy with his current mode of life , they

are constantly pressing him to marry ,..............

 

if you are in that situation what would you do . continue with the

same mode of life or marry with THAT girl . That girl is because She

thinks that She would get happiness from that

person ,............AND MOST IMPORTANTLY WHY ......

 

PLEASE SHARE YOUR VIEWS

 

 

why He decided to be alone is a different story happened with Him

but it is over as He has got the knowledge .

 

HARE KRISHAN ,HARE KRISHAN ,KRISHAN KRISHAN ,HARE HARE ,HARE RAM,

HARE RAM ,RAM RAM, HARE HARE

[Guest guest]

, " jitendra kumar " <jtin_ja wrote:

> Now IF the situation is LIKE THAT than what would you CHOOSE and

> WHY

>

 

 

A sadhaka in such situation should sit for meditation and pray god to

guide....and rest assured God will guide him through vision or dream

or intuition.

 

love

 

Aum

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Dear Jitendraji,

 

She is loving him as he is, " happy with current mode of

life,...loving with God...working for the Government... " . Where is the

problem? He can marry her and continue with whatever he is.Parents is

a different issue. He can always carry his parents if he strongly and

genuinely feels for her and his life with her.

 

Regards, and best wishes for 'him'

 

M.S.Thimmappa.

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Hebrews7:1-3. " Melchizedek king of Salem, priest of the Most High God...being

fatherless, motherless, without genealogy having neither beginning of days nor

an end of life " but having been made the Son of God. He remains a priest

perpetually. The New International version footnote says " Contrary to the

practice elsewhere in the early chapters of Genesis, does not mention

Melchizedek parentage and children, or his birth and death. That he was a real

historical figure is clear but the author of Hebrews (in accordance with Jewish

interpretation) uses the silence of Scripture about Melchizedek Genealogy to

portray him as a prefigutation of Christ's eternal existence and unending

priesthood " Who was this mysterious personality above? Please CommentWhy would a

mortal human being Fatherless, motherless, without Genealogy?Why would a mortal

human being having neither beginning of days nor an end of life?

 

: jtin_ja: Tue, 19 Aug 2008

10:37:14 +0000 Re: Question-37 - A DIFFICULT QUESTION

 

 

 

 

HARE KRISHAN ,HARE RAM > Karmik debts have a very strong influence upon our

decisions..and > sometimes when we do a karma or do not do a karma...we feel god

> decided it, but the choice was always ours...god just watches and > smiles>

YES SIR , GREAT JNAN , THANKS FOR IT Now IF the situation is LIKE THAT than what

would you CHOOSE and WHY 1. She is 20 and that person is 33 there is a gap of 13

years .That person belongs to a village , where age difference matters a lot .

he is not like Sanjay Dutt , Aamir Khan ,.............. where no body objects

for these cases where they do mrriage with age difference of 20-30 years

,...........2. She is the friend of neice (bhatiji) . i do not know how She has

got the courage to do so . but it is her desire and She proposed marriage for 2

reasons a. love because of nature of that person and acheivements of that person

b. She has some problem because of her family ...........3. That person do not

have any interest in marriage as He is happy in the current mode of life .

single living and loving with God ,working for the Government ............ and

also society has accepted that person in that way . also He is happy in

spiritualism ............. He is upgrading day by day and He is progressing . so

He is thinking to CONTINUE in the same mode 4. His parents are not happy with

his current mode of life , they are constantly pressing him to marry

,..............if you are in that situation what would you do . continue with

the same mode of life or marry with THAT girl . That girl is because She thinks

that She would get happiness from that person ,............AND MOST IMPORTANTLY

WHY ......PLEASE SHARE YOUR VIEWS why He decided to be alone is a different

story happened with Him but it is over as He has got the knowledge . HARE

KRISHAN ,HARE KRISHAN ,KRISHAN KRISHAN ,HARE HARE ,HARE RAM, HARE RAM ,RAM RAM,

HARE HARE

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Jitender,

 

I think that whoever person that you are talking about must sit and contemplate

himself...If he thinks that he has got some worldly desires left in him, he

should marry that girl. That would also help that girl simultaneously and might

take her out from whatever difficult circumstances she is facing. But if that

person finds out that he has got no worldly desires left in him, he would be of

no help to that girl (if the girl is not so enlightened and has worldly

desires). In that case, the person should talk to that girl and explain all his

condition and can look out for some other good guy and get that girl married and

may take her out from her difficult situation. In this way, his style of living

and spiritual progress will also not get affected.

 

With Regards,

 

Prabhat

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HARE KRISHAN ,HARE RAM

 

 

THANKS TO ALL THE SADHAKAS FOR SHARING THE PROBLEM BY OPEN HEART .

 

THANKS FOR LOVE

 

Prabhat Sir Ji

 

 

In this way, his style of living and spiritual progress will also not

get affected.

>

 

Sir Ji i am agrred with all the statement said by you , THANKS for all

 

But do not you think so that that person is SELFISH PERSON if He is

doing Sadhana for adopting his own style of Living and He can not

change Himself for the welfare of others. ...............esp for those

cases jahan KOI HRADAYA SE KOI KUCH USSE MAANGE .............

 

AUM Sir Ji

 

Thanks for helping the person

 

BUT Sir Ji do not you think so that if that person is asking something

from the God , means He is still in duality

 

AND HE could not understand that

every Karma is Lord Sri Krishan's Karma , Every situation is created

by the Lord Sri Krishan and everything is the Lord Sri Krishan

 

THANKS FOR LOVE OF ALL THE SADHAKAS

 

HARE KRISHAN , HARE KRISHAN ,KRISHAN KRISHAN ,HARE HARE ,HARE RAM,

HARE RAM ,RAM RAM ,HARE HARE

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OM NAMO NARAYANAYA

 Learned Sadhaks,  Should he marry ? Should he not? These questions can be

answered once we remember that celibacy  is a vitue much praised and recognised

by all those who pursue spiritual advancement.

In Puranic ages we had Lord Hanuman,Bhishmacharya  who stayed celibate and

overcame carnal sensuality. Lord Hanuman visited Ravan`s palace observed many

sleeping beautiful women and admired their charms . But moment after he

repented wondered how he comitted the sin of watching women in deep sleep

Ramakrishna Paramhans married Sarada Devi  and both lived as celibates..

In modern times . Mahatma Gandhi took permission from Kasturba and practised

celibacy

J.B.Kripalani  married Sucheta Kripalani  who as a Brahmakumari never wanted any

physical pleasure  and both lived as celibates.. Coming to the present question

both the 33yr man and the 20yr girl can discuss and decide what type of marriage

they want  and only they should take a decision..

So far so good.

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..And who is  MILCHIZEDIK ?

Bible is transliterated into every known language and it is very easy to get

doubts. Milchizedik is not actually a name and is not a proper noun. Roughly

transliterated into English it means " king of righteousness " an abstract noun

nearly corresponding to the word GURU   both a Sanskrit and English  word. Guru

is an institution not a person. Guru is a teacher in school priest in a

temple,church or mosque and a ruler of spiritual bliss and knowlege. Every

religion emphasizes the need for someone to mediate between God and

humans.Hindus visit a temple and want to perform Archana. but all Hindus can`t

recite all the 108 , or 1000 titles of the Lord .The  priest asks "  utter mama "

and the priest takes over the task of laboriously reciting everything else. And

the result comes to devotee. Guru is never born, never dead and exists in all

societies at all times. 

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Thanks Aupamji , you are the latest Guru about YAGJNOPAVEETHAM.

Thanks Aumji,Sudhakarji et al

ijswamy

 

 

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, " jitendra kumar " <jtin_ja

wrote:

..............

>

> AUM Sir Ji

>

> BUT Sir Ji do not you think so that if that person is asking

something

> from the God , means He is still in duality

 

 

Every sadhaka, every saint, every person is in duality. Duality is

not a thing to be achieved by mere thinking process, nor it is a

wrestling of mind

 

We remain in duality, till we reach Nirvikalpa samadhi and those who

have tasted the unity, do not wander on the net and ask questions or

reply.

 

love

 

aum

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Hi Jitender,

 

You are seeing from only one side of the coin. If you think from Enlightenment

point of you, it is a selfish motive (though GOD says that anything done towards

spiritual progress is not considered a selfishness). Now if we see from material

point of you, it is again a selfish motive in the garb of helping someone.

Unless we give up the thought that WE are the doers, we will remain in these

material entanglements. Remember, in reality, we are not the doers nor we are

the sufferers. We were, are and shall always remain FREE (na karta si, na bhokta

si, mukta evasi sarvada) or (Aham bhojanam naiv bhojyam naa bhokta, Chidanand

Roopah, Shivoham, Shivoham). So a true Sadhak will not be worried about this. He

should really be true to himself and ask whether he really has left in him the

desires of a married life. If he gets the answer yes, then he should definitely

marry as Someone had replied earlier that until your Karmic Debts are clear, you

cannot progress

much in your Sadhana.

 

With Regards,

Prabhat

 

--- On Wed, 20/8/08, jitendra kumar <jtin_ja wrote:

jitendra kumar <jtin_ja

 

Prabhat Sir Ji

 

 

 

In this way, his style of living and spiritual progress will also not

 

get affected.

[Guest guest]

HARE KRISHAN , HARE RAM

 

 

>>

> We remain in duality, till we reach Nirvikalpa samadhi and those who

> have tasted the unity, do not wander on the net and ask questions or

> reply.

>

 

 

THANKS SIR JI FOR REPLY

 

Again Sir Ji , could you please further enlighten me for following 2

queries

 

1. " is it necessary for Karam Yogi to go into Nirvikalpa Samadhi for

getting Moksha or for reaching into the Kingdom of the God or for

Mukti

 

or

 

it is optional for Him ...... "

 

or what is your opinion Sir Ji please enlighten

 

 

2. what is the work of an enlightened person exactly

 

THANKS IN ADVANCE

 

HARE KRISHAN ,HARE KRISHAN ,KRISHAN KRISHAN ,HARE HARE ,HARE RAM, HARE

RAM ,RAM RAM ,HARE HARE

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HARE KRISHAN , HARE RAM

 

 

He should really be true to himself and ask whether he really has left

in him the desires of a married life.

 

Sir Ji Thanks for reply

 

COULD you please further tell me that

 

" if a person marries with someone without His desires BUT for the

sake of LOVE of other person " . is it DEFINETELY a selfish act

 

OR it may or may not be selfish act.

 

what are the situations in which it is selfish act and what are the

situations in which it is a selfless act.

 

M.S.Thimppa Sir Ji

 

in fact His parents are pressing to anybody .They do not have any

problem with that girl who proposed Him , in fact they like Her .

 

HARE KRISHAN ,HARE KRISHAN , KRISHAN KRISHAN , HARE HARE , HARE RAM ,

HARE RAM ,RAM RAM, HARE HARE

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Hi Jitender,

 

I am not able to understand that why for such an advanced Sadhak the love for

the girl becomes more important than Love for GOD. Anyways, not necessarily,

love for the girl can be a selfless act. The extent of selfless love/intention

will be easily visible after their marriage and at that time that person would

not seek answers anywhere else but within himself. Hope this answers your doubt.

 

Regards,

Prabhat

 

--- On Wed, 20/8/08, jitendra kumar <jtin_ja wrote:

jitendra kumar <jtin_ja

Re: Question-37 - A DIFFICULT QUESTION

 

He should really be true to himself and ask whether he really has left

 

in him the desires of a married life.

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, " jitendra kumar " <jtin_ja wrote:

 

> 1. " is it necessary for Karam Yogi to go into Nirvikalpa Samadhi

>for getting Moksha or for reaching into the Kingdom of the God or for

> Mukti

> or

> it is optional for Him ...... "

 

Jitendarji, you have fallen into the classic trap of " Which Yoga is

best- Gyan, Bhakti or Karma " . All Yogas lead to Nirvikapla Samadhi-

this is not an option, but merely the name for the last stage.

 

 

> 2. what is the work of an enlightened person exactly

 

You will know when you become enlightened!

 

love

Shantnu

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, " jitendra kumar " <jtin_ja

wrote:

>

> 1. " is it necessary for Karam Yogi to go into Nirvikalpa Samadhi

for

> getting Moksha or for reaching into the Kingdom of the God or for

> Mukti

>

> or

>

> it is optional for Him ...... "

>

>

> 2. what is the work of an enlightened person exactly

Dear Jitinder,

 

before i reply to your 2 querries, please let me know what do you

think of Karma yoga ?

 

what does karma yogi do?

 

what is moksha for a karma yogi

 

love

 

Aum

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HARE KRISHAN ,HARE RAM

 

> Ramakrishna Paramhans married Sarada Devi  and both lived as

celibates..

> In modern times . Mahatma Gandhi took permission from Kasturba and

practised celibacy

 

 

THANKS SWAMY SIR JI FOR A GREAT LESSON

 

it teaches us that " MAYA KE ANDAR REHKAR MAYA MAIN JO LIPT NA HO O

BHI BADA YOGI HAI "

 

The case of Great yogi Mahatma Ram Krishan Param Hansa was different

from Mahatma Gandhi . Great Yogi Ram Krishan Param Hansa Married

because of His Mother i think . and Mahatma Gandhi married as a

normal person but later on He changed himself as Karam yogi .

 

 

also for this case that person is worried because of Mother . he has

experienced that everyone could forget but Mother would cry all the

time . becuause His mother can not understand spiritualism , mukti

or whatever ............ She only understand that Her son is in

pain , and hence She would constantly cry for it ...

 

the answer given by AUM Sir Ji , marrigae could be done to clear

the Karmic Debt till Karmic debt are not cleared one can not get

Mukti .. and also Sir Ji has stated in His posting that environment

Karmas should also be cleared ........here i analysed that if He is

not able to accomplish the desires of the mother for His son , than

His environmental Karmas can not be cleared ....

 

i do not know How it is possible to eliminate the desire of marriage

from Mother's consciousness ......... He was failed by convincing

Her through knowledge .. She says ... mujhe Mukti nahin

chahiye ..... saadi karo ....

 

Shantanu Sir Ji ...

 

thanks for reply

 

i had doubt about the Karam Yogi vs Samadhi because it is said for

Karam Yogi that He chant the name of the Lord in Sakshi Bhav at the

time of death and He gets the Mukti ... while for Shankhya Yogi he

goes into Samadhi and than He leaves the body ...........

 

Mahatma Gandhi chanted the name of the Lord at the time of the

death .

 

also for Enlightened person works are given in Sri Mad Bhagwad

Geeta ..... but i wanted to know the Wisdom of all the Sadhakas of

this forum .. so that things could be cleared after discussion .

 

 

what is the seen today

 

Bapoo Asha Ram Ji are enlightened person and they are giving

knowledge to people on TV .............. One of His act after

enlightenment ...

 

i personally think that giving knowledge on Internet is better than

giving knowledge on TV as Enlightened Sadhaka of this forum are

doing .... whatever .....

 

Prabhat Sir Ji

 

thanks for reply

 

as you have written that " I am not able to understand that why for

such an advanced Sadhak the love for the girl becomes more important

than Love for GOD "

 

this question i had asked in messanger many times and in fact

at the begining of the spiritual journey ........

 

finally i analysed at one stage and in some conditions the love for

the girl also become same as the love for the God because that girl

is also the one form of the God . .............but UNDER SOME

CONDITIONS ........though word Love is associated with the God ie

the totality only ........please do not take conditions as

BANDHAN ........as it said that kisi ki Niswarth bhav se madad karna

parmatma se bhi prem karna hai.

 

THANKS TO ALL THE SADHAKAS FOR GIVING SUGGESTIONS AND SHARING THEIR

WISDOM HEARTFULLY FOR THE SITUATION OF A PERSON . THANKS TO ALL

 

THANKS FOR LOVE ........

 

BANKE BIHARI KI JAI

 

HARE KRISHAN ,HARE KRISHAN ,KRISHAN KRISHAN ,HARE HARE ,HARE

RAM ,HARE RAM ,RAM RAM ,HARE HARE

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HARE KRISHAN ,HARE RAM

 

 

> before i reply to your 2 querries, please let me know what do you

> think of Karma yoga ?

>

> what does karma yogi do?

>

> what is moksha for a karma yogi

>

>

 

THNAKS FOR REPLY SIR JI

 

In my opinion Karam Yoga is the Yoga in which a person does WORK

and simultaneously chanted the name of the Lord .

 

though lastly when Anupam Sir Ji , Shantanu Sir Ji were discussing

about the Cosnciousness vs Samadhi that time though it was in my

mind that " Sakhsi Bhav and Samadhi " both are different things.

though i asked one question on consciousness that was very good

question indeed .

 

in Sakshi BHav a person does Karma but He just watches everything

what is going on in his SELF .........,

 

while in Samadhi a person sit for meditation and He is filled with

the light and light only in his surroundings and He feels so many

things.........

 

that is what i know Sir Ji truely .... and now You have to enhance

my Knowledge

 

THNAKS FOR GREAT KNOWLEDGE WHICH I AM GETTING AND PERHAPS OTHERS TOO

 

HARE KRISHAN ,HARE KRISHAN ,KRISHAN KRISHAN ,HARE HARE , HARE

RAM ,HARE RAM ,RAM RAM ,HARE HARE

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, " jitendra kumar " <jtin_ja

wrote:

>

> In my opinion Karam Yoga is the Yoga in which a person does WORK

> and simultaneously chanted the name of the Lord .

>

 

Dear jitinder bhai,

 

 

As shantnu said, all these names Karma yoga, bhakti gyan etc are the

names to begin the sadhna.

 

One can start Karma yoga by a deep feeling and confidence that he is

doing karma for the lord and is happy with the result, even if it is

against his wishes.

 

In further progress in karma yoga, one sees as Sakshi Bhava that the

body is doing Karma and he has no desire of his own in the karma

 

With more progress, Karma yogi finds that there is no other doer but

the god himself, in his karma and the karma of others..

 

It is after that the Karma yogi enters the realm of Gyan and bhakti.

 

All the three paths, Bhakti, karma and gyan start differently but

they end up on a path where all the three join together and it is

from this place that the divine love and Samadhi starts.

 

Samadhi (or Kundalini jagaran).. is not a unique thing connected

with a particular path, but this happens in all paths and till this

happens, the sadhna is incomplete.

 

Nirvikalapa samadhi is when kundalini sits in Agya chakra and

pierces the Rudra Granthhi...then personal ego is dissolved into the

supreme.

 

(although as per Tantra, this too is not final Moksha as there is a

long way from Agya chakra to Sahasradhara...but by nirvikalapa

samadhi, one is free from births and deaths and is one with the

supreme

 

Now tell me your question again..

 

with love always

 

Aum

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HARE KRISHAN , HARE RAM

 

 

THANSK SIR JI FOR VALUABLE KNOWLEDGE YOU HAVE POSTED IN THIS FORUM

YES IT IS THE TRUTH AND TRUTH CAN NOT BE CHANGED

 

 

 

> It is after that the Karma yogi enters the realm of Gyan and

bhakti.

>

 

Further my quiry Sir Ji

 

 

QUERY NO 1

 

what is the difference between Gyan , Jnan and Braham jnan

 

could you please give little bit hint about Braham jnan , if could

be expressed into some words

 

 

> (although as per Tantra, this too is not final Moksha as there is

a

> long way from Agya chakra to Sahasradhara...but by nirvikalapa

> samadhi, one is free from births and deaths and is one with the

> supreme

>

 

QUERY NO 2

 

What are types of Mukti . Could you please write with reference to

this posting ie with reference to above two kinds of Mukti's

 

 

ONCE AGAIN THANKS SIR JI

 

 

HARE KRISHAN , HARE KRISHAN ,KRISHAN KRISHAN , HARE HARE , HARE

RAM , HARE RAM ,RAM RAM ,HARE HARE

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, " jitendra kumar " <jtin_ja

wrote:

>

>>

>

> QUERY NO 1

>

> what is the difference between Gyan , Jnan and Braham jnan

>

> could you please give little bit hint about Braham jnan , if could

> be expressed into some words

 

 

Gyan and jnan is one... it is because British spoilt our words they

changed Gyan into jnana as they could not pronounce it properly like

they did with Simla (shimla) meerut (merathh) Chatterjee

(chattopadhayaya) etc.

 

The correct pronunciation is G-Y-aa-N.

 

 

so gyan is when we know there is another force than our will , who

is running the universe.

 

and Brahm-gyan is when we see that one single entity is in all beings

 

and this gyan is not perfect when known to the mind, this becomes a

perfect gyan when one becomes Brahmm himself and sees the whole

universe in him

 

rest in next

 

love

 

aum

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, aumji <no_reply wrote:

> One can start Karma yoga by a deep feeling and confidence that he is

> doing karma for the lord and is happy with the result, even if it is

> against his wishes.

>

 

Dear sir and what are such steps in Bhakthi yoga and Jnana yoga ?

 

Does it mean that where evr you start from you reach same path?

 

vishnu

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HARE KRISHAN , HARE RAM

 

 

> and Brahm-gyan is when we see that one single entity is in all beings

>

> and this gyan is not perfect when known to the mind, this becomes a

> perfect gyan when one becomes Brahmm himself and sees the whole

> universe in him

>

> rest in next

>

THANKS A LOT SIR JI , FOR YOUR GREAT ANSWER IN WORDS NO COMPARISON

 

EAGERLY WAITING FOR THE NEXT ................

 

 

HARE KRISHAN ,HARE KRISHAN ,KRISHAN KRISHAN ,HARE HARE , HARE

RAM ,HARE RAM ,RAM RAM, HARE HARE

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, kalyugivishnu5 <no_reply wrote:

>

> Dear sir and what are such steps in Bhakthi yoga and Jnana yoga ?

>

> Does it mean that where evr you start from you reach same path?

>

> vishnu

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Dear Vishnuji,

 

In bhatki the steps would be

 

1- when one thinks himself as child of god and worships him only

forgetting all other faiths

 

2- With further progress a Bhakta finds that his form of god is in

all forms in the universe and he respects all taking them as God

 

3- Finally Bhakta knows there is no one but his God and his own ego

is temporary/illusion

 

it is from here the path of Divine love and samadhi starts

 

Shri Hanumanji gave perfect answer to Sita Mata who asked him what

was his relation with Shri Ram... Hanumanji replied

 

In body form Shri Ram is master and hanuman is his slave

 

In Atma form Shri Ram is Supreme Atma and Hanuman a tiny part of

him

 

In Brahmm form Hanuman himself is Shri Rama

 

 

with love

 

Aum