Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Dissent is Democratic, Consensus is Fascist I still remember those days in my early twenties when I got to read the novel `Atlas Shrugged' by `Ayn Rand' loaned to me by my cousin sister. Ayn Rand was a born rebel who had her own vision of a society based on an idealistic objectivism. If someone mentions `capitalism' to me ,then Jefferson, Washington and Ayn Rand only come to my imagination. Such has been her influence on American society. Ayn Rand and democracy: She will tell in one of her works- " Whenever you hear words such as `unanimity, consensus, etc, immediately know that the organization is fascist. Democracy has dissent built into it. No two men think alike and act alike. So , in a large organization like a business corporation or a political party, if there is such a thing as consensus, it simply means that views of one man or a few are pushed down the throats of those down the hierarchy. The result ? Oppression , obviously. Think of an organization or society where plurality of opinion is accepted rather than tolerated and even welcomed. There, my friend , democracy blooms. Where the freedom to think, speak and act is inherent in the society, democracy shows its fragrance. Suppression is fascism. Liberation is Democracy. The ideal society Rabindranath Tagore, in his Gitanjali writes Where the mind is without fear and the held is high Where knowledge is free Where words come out from the depth of truth …………………… Have you ever heard of a land where these values were actually practiced ? Well, it was the wonderland called Bharat. The sons of Bharat , a fearless intellectual group, dared to differ from the mundane and visualized a society based on free enquiry. We see much of it even now in India though the society lost many of its golden standards. The village level self management, freedom for self enquiry and self realization ( as later summarized in the Gita) speak volumes of the society. It was in Bharat that is India that the 'free education for all ' policy was proclaimed and practiced till 1850 when the indigenous Gurukuls were destroyed. An example of a Democratic village: A small village in the erstwhile Chola Kingdom, Uttiramerur, Tamilnadu, (which is a temple village), has a written constitution in the temple complex devoted to Lord Shiva. This temple is typical of Chola Grandeur in stone. There , in a mantap, the gram Sabha met and elected its chief. The tenure was fixed and the election process was by dropping the choice written on a palmyrah leaf into a pot. The votes were counted and the winner declared by the village nobles. The norms were also stringent. The contestant must not have married more than once, not have had illicit relationship, who has not usurped public property and so on. This happened thousand years ago under Rajaraja I. The Present India The India of present is a mix of honest, pious, religious and law abiding citizens headed by a few dishonest, deceitful, bigoted , nepotist and corrupt leaders. They have perfected the art of dividing the population on the basis of religion, caste and language in order to keep the throne for perpetuity. Democracy was made into a laughing stock when a single family of Father, Daughter, Grandson, and his wife were all raised to the throne in almost regular succession. The family employed all the untruthful means to remain in power thus ridiculing the price of the blood of freedome fighters. Undoing of Indians in Democracy They realized that the only true bond of all Indians is their religion. So, they employed all means to keep the Indians disconnected from their umbilicus. To this end, they invented a novel formula of secularism which meant several things to several people. The Hindu was taught that secularism meant sacrificing his rights of his religion over his motherland. It also meant forgiving of all oppressions of the past by other religions. It also said that tolerance even in the face of grim oppression was secularism. The Muslims and Christian were free from such indoctrinations. For them secularism meant they were free to practice their religions and convert anyone to their religion by whatever means. They could even use force on Hindus who had to be complacent as a rule. The Hindu, by such vicious inculcation of untruths, became indifferent to his society. His temples were nationalized and their lands and properties were stolen by the government. He dare not show off his religious affliction as it is a sign of aggression. If he formed a party, he was termed as communal. But the other religions were free from such injunctions and they were as secular as ever. The average Hindu is longing for real democracy. His plight is his own making. He simply has to look back in time and realize what a tradition he belongs to. His tears will vanish and so will the suppressive , fascist , secularistic bondage. J Venkatasubramanian Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Go to http://in.webmessenger./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Hari Om! I am moved by this passionate post from Venkatji. Those of us who are familiar with the free flow of discussion in this forum and in other forums dedicated to spiritual matters, would know well how the Indians have the passion for truth. We are an intellectual society. Ours is not a banana religion or a banana democracy. The bane of the present Indian society is its polity. Our people grow and progress despite the retarding influence of the politics. Thugs have captured the political institutions. We need really a kind of revolution to clean the Aegean's stable. That revolution could be triggered by a movement wherein all the members of Sanathana Dharma practise their religion very seriously without any discrimiantion amongst themselves. The internal social discrimination should go at any cost and all sections of the society must feel at home being in the religion. The downtrodden in the society will be led by the example shown by the previleged who are looked upon not for their social status but for their spiritual attainment. Being steeped in your sadhana is the effective tool against the onslaught of other religions. All those who had been herded away from the Sanadhana Dharma will turn back to their home, once they find the difference between the conditions prevailaing in their new situation and that of the original faith. We need to make our faith more soothing and comfortable. As Venkatji rightly said due to ignorance of our glorious tradition, much of the people have no will to fight to defend our faith. Hence, the emphasis should be on our spiritual tradition. It is not the first time that Hindu religion was subjected to dangers of conversion etc. Our Bhakti movement won back our place of pre-eminence from such non-Vedic religions like Jainism and Bhuddhism. That Hinduism absorbed much of the teaching of these two religions speaks volumes about its vibrant dynamism. The moving hymns of Devaram and Thiruvasagam and those of Nalaayira Dhivya Prabhandams in Tamil bear witness to the role played by Bhakti movement in vanquishing the evil that fell on this religion. Saint Thirunavukkarasar's valiant struggle against the oppression of the royalty, after his re-conversion to Saivism and the fact that he emerged alive after all the attempts to kill him had failed with the grace of Lord Siva and that of the Saint Thirugnanasambandar winning over the Pankya King back to Saivism, defeating the Jains and the Buddhists in 'Anal vadam' (Test of Fire) and 'Punal Vadam' (Test of Water) are there for all of us to follow as an example to withstand the newer threats to our faith. One may wonder what is wrong if this religion is allowed to die and some other religion comes to engage the people. I am afraid this argument stems from a basic misconception about the greatness of our faith. Many seek to convert as a mark of protest. Even if there is some personal justification for leaving this religion, they cannot negate the ultimate truth contained in this theology. Even the Jainism and Buddhism still retained certain fundamental truths of the Sanathana Dharma. But, the neo-Christians, especially the recent converts try to repudiate every thing about this religion. They seek to throw the baby with the tub-water. As a member of the Hindu Society, I acknowledge that my society requires reformation at the social level. But, I am deeply entrenched in its theology. I firmly believe that my sadhana will elevate me and help me in my journey towards Self-Realisation and that will serve as an impetus for others to follow my faith. ulaganathan p Venkat <apexpreci2000 Dissent is Democratic, Consensus is Fascist I still remember those days in my early twenties when I got to read the novel `Atlas Shrugged' by ` Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Dear Venkatji, It is excellent, Venkatji, excellent. I couldn't agree with you more. You have summed up well what majority right minded and hearted people think! Congratulations! , Venkat <apexpreci2000 wrote: > > Dissent is Democratic, Consensus is Fascist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Dear Ulaganathanji, Yes, indeed, I fully agree with you and appreciate you elaboration on Venkatji's submission. We all should move towards that. Vedas ( Original ! ) are the ultimate in human enrichment, humanity as a whole, and also to reach the pinnacle of human existence. Regards, M.S.Thimmappa. , ulaganathan p <apunathan wrote: > > Hari Om! > > I am moved by this passionate post from Venkatji. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 The writings of AYN RAND has beautiful flares of " Karma Yoga " ....especially in THE FOUNTAINHEAD.......ATLAS SHRUGGED too one of her Classics. Karma, Gyana and faint glimpses of Bhakti is what I perceive from the works of AYN RAND. Her writings are Simply Superb !!! She is among the rare people who could weave into words the innate craving within every Human being for - " Poornata " ...and also present in a commerically acceptable platter. Regards, Anupam --- On Thu, 9/11/08, ulaganathan p <apunathan wrote: ulaganathan p <apunathan Hari Om! I am moved by this passionate post from Venkatji. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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