Delhi Blasts

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 Blast after blast is happeing in our country , can't we do any thing !!! How

about this silly campaign

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ities%20with%20previous%20ones,%20says%20Patil(Bangles%20Campaign)

 

 

 

 

 

 

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HARE RAM ,HARE KRISHAN

 

>

>  Blast after blast is happeing in our country , can't we do any

thing !!! How about this silly campaign

>

 

I do respect a lot to Muslim Religion , whenever i pass from

Mosque , i bow down and chant Allah but................

 

Could any Muslim member of this Sadhana Group or anybody who can

acces me expain that which Shastra (KURAN SHARIF , ........) of

Muslim religion tells you to kill the innocent people through this

shameless way . i am feeling shame even to write that these muslims

kill the innocent people through hidden Bomb. what the hell they

want to show to the world , that they are the most coward people in

this universe , who do not have courage to fight in the war .

 

Could any muslim tell me that who wants this henious act . i never

heard that PAGAMBER MOHAMMAD or any Lord Allah had done this act in

his life time . How it can be their choice ...... or could you tell

me the name of any Muslim Lord who had done these kind of cowardee

acts in his life and established cowardee ADHARMA .........

 

if you do not have any record than accept that you are doing for a

devil person . and after death He would not get the place even in

Hell , so you too ..............

 

YES TADA / POTA / ................ ARE THE INSTRUMENTS TO CONTROL

THESE ACT , THERE IS NO DOUBT ......

 

JAG SAKO TO JAG JAO MERE DESHWASIO

 

 

HARE RAM , HARE RAM ,RAM RAM ,HARE HARE , HARE KRISHAN , HARE

KRISHAN , KRISHAN KRISHAN ,HARE HARE

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Thanks Jitinder bringing this topic up for discussion.

 

Hindus are more busy in wasting time on discussing useless

philosophies, asanas, yogas and deities.

 

No one is worried about the christians and muslims hollowing the

roots of India and Hinduism.

 

We have coward Hindus, pseudo secular leaders and a hypocrite

goverment and in such scenario what do you expect ?

 

Lallu yadav, mulayam yadav, paswan all who openly supported SIMI

should be hanged publically

 

But who will do it ?

 

There were more hindus beating their breasts on babri demolitions

than muslims. Seems We have more children of Duryodhana and Shakuni

in India

 

Bear the sufferings till you pepople leave cowardice

 

Vishnu

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Dear Vishnuji,

 

>>> Hindus are more busy in wasting time on discussing useless

 

philosophies, asanas, yogas and deities.

 

Agreed that most Hindus are wasting time.....but if you disregard Hindu

Philosophy, Asanas, Yoga, Deities....Everything :-) What Hindusim are you trying

to protect from outside forces???

 

The purpose of The Hindu Santana Dharma Culture itself is to make oneself more

" aware " and more " capable " to RISE AND PROTECT in such given circumstances. It

is its ABSENCE thats the issue............

 

Regards,

Anupam

 

 

--- On Wed, 9/17/08, kalyugivishnu5 <no_reply > wrote:

kalyugivishnu5 <no_reply >

 

Hindus are more busy in wasting time on discussing useless

 

philosophies, asanas, yogas and deities.

 

 

 

No one is worried about the christians and muslims hollowing the

 

roots of India and Hinduism.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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, kalyugivishnu5 <no_reply wrote:

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> Thanks Jitinder bringing this topic up for discussion.

>

> Hindus are more busy in wasting time on discussing useless

> philosophies, asanas, yogas and deities.

 

Dear Vishnu, I understood the pains in your post and hence cleared it

without moderation.

 

It is after the arrival of Buddhism, that foreign invaders started

looting India and the philosophy of hinduism ,that the world is Maya,

was mainly responsible for this. We hindus have forgotten the Geeta

and remembered only the Maya concept, hence we are suffering

 

If our philosophy is great why God is making us suffer ? we have to

research, analyse and read between the lines, we would find the answer.

I will quote my own example on Answers. I worked hard in YA and

with the help of other good hindus, brought Hinduism on forefront of

YA, by clearing many myths about our philosophy and told good things

about hinduism to others.

 

Many christians and muslims became my fan and sent me mails

thanking me for my questions and answers on YA. Then another hindu

(named jayaraman) got jealous of me and with the help of his contacts

in YA started deleting my Qs and Ans, giving all thumbs downs on all

my answers. So much so I decided to leave YA for good...not because

of christians or muslims... but due to jealousy of our own hindu

friend.

 

Does this example tell something about the problem ? The invaders

were not brave, nor tactical. Our own divisions, jealousy and

hypocricy led to our slavery.

 

Guess what ? even after so many centuries of slavery we have not

understood the lesson. Nature is not going to spare us if we do not

respond in correct way.

 

Discussing philosophies and asanas is not useless, as this is the only

string which will bind all the hindus together. Let us pray that we

Hindus wake up and understand our great values, and leave rest to

Mother Nature

 

With love always

 

Aum

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LOL!

Vishnu you are correct.

Some people encapsulate  'napusakata', with spirituality, and discuss

philosophies, vedanta etc.

Need of the hour is bullet for bullet policy, potent men and women and support

your Hindu religion as you protect your own property.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@ s.com, kalyugivishnu5 <no_reply@.. .> wrote:

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> Thanks Jitinder bringing this topic up for discussion.

>

> Hindus are more busy in wasting time on discussing useless

> philosophies, asanas, yogas and deities.

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> , kalyugivishnu5 <no_reply@> wrote:

> >

> > Thanks Jitinder bringing this topic up for discussion.

> >

> > Hindus are more busy in wasting time on discussing useless

> > philosophies, asanas, yogas and deities.

>

 

Vishnu I dont agree on one point that discussing philosophy is

useless. We were slaves for 100s of years because we forgot our

Dharma and induldged in pulling our own brother's legs.

 

I am in complete agreement with your other points and feel pains of

all those who suffered in bomb blasts.

 

jaya

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Ms Dipti,

 

I dont know what you mean by your comments. But this is certain

that you dont know the pain of those who lost their nears and dears in

those blasts

 

You should be ashamed of your comments. TELL ME WHAT IS SADHNA ?

 

AND WHAT IS NOT SADHNA ?

 

VISHNU

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Mr Kalyug vishnu & people

 

I guess everybody is aware of this groups name and the moto behind the group

Please explain to Mr Vishnu what is sadhana

 

and Mr Vishnu you cannot use the word to harrase me, you should be ashamed

and you cannot use such words

 

We understand what the world is facing, daily attacks

but why dont you try topics like food crises, poverty , donation , bihar

flood, etc , bollywood

these also are painful and intersting subjects

 

we have other groups to discuss such things

 

Hope Mr Vishnu has understood the meaning of Sadhana and can search other

groups like Fun , Movies , Delhi blast and others for such topics

 

Dipti

 

 

On 9/17/08, kalyugivishnu5 <no_reply > wrote:

>

> Ms Dipti,

>

> I dont know what you mean by your comments. But this is certain

> that you dont know the pain of those who lost their nears and dears in

> those blasts

>

> You should be ashamed of your comments. TELL ME WHAT IS SADHNA ?

>

> AND WHAT IS NOT SADHNA ?

>

> VISHNU

>

>

>

 

 

 

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, " Dipti Nagar " <itsmedipti

wrote:

 

So called Dipti,

 

I really doubt your identity. Are you a muslim who is happy on

blasts ? Are you a TROLL ?

 

For you Fun Bollywood and Delhi Blasts are same ?

 

I really dont know the purpose of your wild reaction. If there is

anything wrong in my post dont reply it. My only aim to bring this

topic is to see if Hindus can find out why they are being targetted

without any cause. I am happy to see many people including aumji

and Jayaji accepted my views.

 

Vishnu

 

(THIS IS A MODERATED VERSION OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE !)

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, kalyugivishnu5 <no_reply wrote:

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> , " Dipti Nagar " <itsmedipti@>

> wrote:

>

I am happy to see many people including aumji

> and Jayaji accepted my views.

>

> Vishnu

 

 

Dear Vishnu,

 

I did not accept your views that " Meditation, Yoga etc are

useless philosophies "

 

abt blasts i agree with you and share the pain of all those who

suffered.

 

May I request you to be a little respectful to other members,

even while disagreeing with them. Disagreeing is a democratic thing

and we normally do allow different views, even if they are against

the tenents of Hinduism. Foul language, inciting words or insulting

remarks are moderated.

 

With love

 

Aum

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Thanks AUM for moderating the message and a message to Vishnu

 

Well to let vishnu know that i am hindu and a brahmin by caste

 

but these acts are done by politicians and terrorist

by the way let me tell you the moto of this group

The Group description of is

 

*Namaskaar ...Welcome to Saadhnaa, a Virtual Satsangh dedicated to

discussion and sharing of spiritual paths and practices; its obstacles,

effects and experiences. Please feel free to share your views in an

atmosphere of love and mutual respect!! Hari AUM*

 

hope everything is clear and should now talk about Spirituals

 

Thanks

Dipti

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, aumji <no_reply wrote:

>

 

> Does this example tell something about the problem ? The invaders

> were not brave, nor tactical. Our own divisions, jealousy and

> hypocricy led to our slavery.

>

> Guess what ? even after so many centuries of slavery we have not

> understood the lesson. Nature is not going to spare us if we do not

> respond in correct way.

>

 

Sun Tzu, in the Art of War, says " We can only hope to make our own

defences so strong that the enemy cannot attack us; we cannot hope to

defeat the enemy using any method we train for: for the way to defeat

the enemy is provided by the enemy himself, when he shows his weaknesses. "

 

A street fighter expressed this more simply when asked for a sure way

to win in a street fight " Son, dont trip over your own foot! " , meaning

dont screw up your defence.

 

Thats why Indians have been losing for so long- they keep tripping

over their own foot, perhaps due to all the infighting.

 

with love

Shantnu

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, kalyugivishnu5 <no_reply wrote:

Dear Kalyugvishnuji and Srinivas Kolluriji,

 

Namaste!

 

What is your individual contribution towards making Hindus strong,

not discussing useless philosophies, asanas, yogas and deities?

What exactly have you done could you please elaborate.

As far as Vishnuji is concerned you have been discussing the

same thing on this forum and Mr. Srinivasji you were discussing which

temple to visit in usa along with mr. Swamyji so in what context you

are brave, macho etc., could you both enlighten me please.

I am waiting for your reply.

 

Thanks

 

With warm wishes,

 

Sudhakar

HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! )

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HARE RAM ,HARE KRISHAN

 

The invaders were not brave, nor tactical. Our own divisions,

jealousy and

> hypocricy led to our slavery.

>

THANKS TO ALL THE SADHAKAS FOR GREAT SATSANG , CONTINUE IT........

 

YES AUM SIR JI , THANKS A LOT FOR A GREAT LESSON

 

and Hence the only solution to the problem is that our Politicians

should implement the right policies eg TADA, POTA, ...............

 

Please Comment on this Sir ji also i request to all the Sadhakas

 

thanks a lot to ALL THE SADHAKAS FOR THEIR GREAT CONTRIBUTIONS

 

HARE RAM ,HARE RAM ,RAM RAM, HARE HARE ,HARE KRISHAN , HARE KRISHAN ,

KRISHAN KRISHAN ,HARE HARE

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, " spbyoga9 " <spbyoga9 wrote:

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> , kalyugivishnu5 <no_reply@> wrote:

> Dear Kalyugvishnuji and Srinivas Kolluriji,

>

> Namaste!

>

> What is your individual contribution towards making Hindus strong,

> not discussing useless philosophies, asanas, yogas and deities?

> What exactly have you done could you please elaborate.

> As far as Vishnuji is concerned you have been discussing the

> same thing on this forum and Mr. Srinivasji you were discussing which

 

Mr. spbyoga9 JI, do you think contribution is only by those who become

Yoga teachers ? and all others are useless ?

 

My contribution is that I am trying to awaken Hindus before the

oncoming dangers take them over. Hindus have already suffered a lot

and if not awaken now, God may not give second chance

 

Vishnu

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, " Dipti Nagar " <itsmedipti wrote:

 

> Well to let vishnu know that i am hindu and a brahmin by caste

>

 

That answer shows the hypocrisy. Why you are so proud of being a

brahmin ? Caste politics has put hinduism down in the eyes of the

world. 50% hindus were hated by Brahmins like you and they converted

to Islam, Christianity and Buddhism.

 

My next question is : IS CASTEISM A DOGMA OF HINDUISM ? if not then

why are we following it ?

 

vishnu

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, shanracer <no_reply wrote:

> Thats why Indians have been losing for so long- they keep tripping

> over their own foot, perhaps due to all the infighting.

>

> with love

> Shantnu

>

 

 

Thanks Shantnuji, I agree with you. We have been divided in the

name of North & South, Brahmins & non-Brahmins, Shaiva & Vaishnava

and many such useless divisions.

 

What is God's plan in making hindus so weak and so divisive ? If our

religion is so strong why God not helping hindus ? Why God is

helping Chrisitians by giving them money and power and muslim

countries by giving them oil.

 

We can not close our eyes like a pigeon before a cat and think there

is no cat. We have to see the oncoming dangers and find ways to

fight them

 

Do you agree with me ?

 

with regards

 

vishnu

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, kalyugivishnu5 <no_reply wrote:

 

Respected vishnuji,

 

Being a yoga teacher is also a big contribution to the growth of

hinduism. Each one is doing his part in the Leela, hence we can not

say others are useless. Like you are doing your part. Aumji is

contributing by this Group, jitinder is contributing by asking wise

questions and others are contributing by replying to them

 

jaya

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, kalyugivishnu5 <no_reply wrote:

 

> What is God's plan in making hindus so weak and so divisive ? If our

> religion is so strong why God not helping hindus ? Why God is

> helping Chrisitians by giving them money and power and muslim

> countries by giving them oil.

 

Vishnuji, God is helping us by giving us His support.

 

In the Mahabharat, the Kaurvas had Krishnas huge army, while Arjun

only had Krishna, & he refused to fight as well. The Pandavs had the

support of the Gods, & the Power of Spirit behind them.

 

In any battle, material or spiritual, outer wealth & power count for

little. The Spirit, if it wants, can tilt the balance of power easily.

 

Success in the physical battles means little, as we stay so little

time here. We come here to develop character & strength, & this can be

better developed by facing great odds & difficulties, not by living

confortable lives like the rich Arab Sheikhs are. They are like the

Gods- totally at mercy of their previous Karma. They arent creating

any new good Karma, & hence will suffer a lot in the future. We should

feel sorry for them, not be jealous of them!

 

with love

Shantnu

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OMNAMONARAYANAYA !

Dear Sadhaks ,

 50% of  Hindus (not 49% 0r 51%) are hated by Brahmins. So the hated victims

became Christians(what%), Muslims(what %) and Buddhists(what %).  How to arrive

at this impeccable  statistics ?

Cateism in India is self perpetuating. Only a goldsmith and his progeny know how

to shine gold. and theprocess is  secret. 

192 castes refuse to be called " forward " . More and more are demading to be

included in " other bacward " castes.

Of these " backward " " other backward "  and " very backward " castes , not a single

one is willing for " inter caste " marriage. 

Brahmins are also victims  of casteism not beneficiaries.

your co sadhak

ijswamy    

 

 

~SWAMY

http://gjnanaswarup.spaces.live.com/blog/

 

--- On Thu, 9/18/08, kalyugivishnu5 <no_reply > wrote:

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> 50% of Hindus (not 49% 0r 51%) are hated by Brahmins. So the

hated victims became Christians(what%), Muslims(what %) and Buddhists

(what %). How to arrive at this impeccable statistics ?

> Cateism in India is self perpetuating. Only a goldsmith and his

 

Dear Vishnuji,

 

 

I do not know if Brahmins hate others or not... but I can

certainly quote my own experience. I am a Brahmin (by birth & by

deeds) and I have been denied any promotion due to my higher caste.

 

Government of India is the only body who is spreading hatered in the

name of caste and religion. Those (so-called) lower castes who were

5/6 years' junior to me, have become my bosses and I have been

facing tormenting and taunting by them for years.

 

I never hated anybody for caste, but I have been subject to tyranny

of so called lower castes for long... and this is bringing out

discontentment and may finally lead to hatered.

-

here is an article of interest

 

Giving details of the federation, its general secretary

Yajnanarayana Herleru and K.L.B. Aithal, K. Keshava Holla, K.N.

Raghavendra and Ganesh Rao, executive committee members, said that a

statement by the government on the floor of the Legislative Assembly

prompted them to take up such philanthropic programme for Brahmins.

 

Mr. Herleru said the per capita income of Christians was Rs. 1,562,

Vokkaligas Rs. 914, Muslims Rs. 794, Scheduled Castes Rs. 680, but

that of Brahmins was the lowest with Rs. 537 in the State. He said

that 50 per cent of the rickshaw pullers in Patel Nagar of Delhi

were Brahmins and 44 per cent of the children from the caste were

dropouts at the primary school level and 36 per cent at the high

school level.

 

He said that while 45 per cent of the people across the country

belonged to the below-the-poverty line, it was 55 among Brahmins.

Mr. Herleru said that the federation had the desire to extend the

scholarship to other sections, but only after meeting the needs of

Brahmin children.

 

Brahmins, even though educated, were not getting employment and were

not getting even menial jobs and were in penury. The federation

would be inaugurated by the Pejawar Math's Vishvesha Tirtha Swami on

May 3.

 

 

http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/4602.html

 

with love

 

Aum

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, kalyugivishnu5 <no_reply wrote:

Dear Vishnuji,

 

Namaste!

 

Have you read my posting. Is there anywhere i have mentioned that

yoga teachers are only contributing and others are useless?

Why don't you read properly before levelling any accusations?

Further your replies to others and me reflect your hot headedness.

Please do not show it here. Don't think we cannot express our hot

headedness? Atleast i am quite capable of doing so. So keep your

anger to yourself and on this forum talk or express more politely.

 

Don't think i am going to take any accusations without retaliating

just because i am a yoga teacher. Ofcourse you may question, show that

anger to christains and muslims. What i am doing you cannot even

dream of and i do not want any attention drawn to me. You can do your

own contribution towards fighting atrocities without doing any

publicity and i am doing that.

 

With warm wishes,

 

Sudhakar

HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! )

 

 

 

> , " spbyoga9 " <spbyoga9@> wrote:

>>

> Mr. spbyoga9 JI, do you think contribution is only by those who

become

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OMNAMONARAYANAYA

Venerable sadhaks,

God has not created anything or anyone useless.  Thorny bushes are useful. They

are grown as a natural fence around gardens containing plants and trees  whose

leaves,fruits and stems are used as vegetables and medicines. Bitter leaves of

neem etc protect the tree itself and act as disinfectants. Snake venom in very

high dilutions is a drug which prevents blood clotting and till recently

prescribed as a drug for heart  attacks and strokes

Kaliyuga Vishnu means the Kalki incarnation. In these days of blasts and anarchy

Kaliyuga Vishnu is  very much needed. The world is praying Vishnu to become

Kaliyug Vishnu.

Getting angry is  sign of weakness.Staying calm in the face of evil and

adversity is strength.

Thanks.

ijswamy

 

 

~SWAMY

http://gjnanaswarup.spaces.live.com/blog/

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OM,

 

This is not new, it's been happening for ages. Ultimately the people who spread

hate always end up getting consumed in their own hate, just look at pakistan &

afghanistan. The US and west are moving towards oil free battery based vehicles

[new Chevy Volt 2010, Tesla Motors..etc], which means nations from gulf to

pakistan will look like afghansitan. So no need to panic.

 

All this funding for terror is going to come to an end in the next10-20 yrs.In

the mean time we need to stay calmn, keep making progress economically and

importantly spiritually. The west is also falling because the it's spiritual

pillars have become hollow.We need to keep raising our conciousness and

Kunadlini by meditation and Mantra Jaapa to elevate ourselves.

 

Only a society with high consciousness can produce great Kshatriyas and Saints.

We have beaten back the British Empire, the Moghul empire and so many others.. a

100-200 odd fanatics can't finish us. But we need to keep producing the Saints

like Ramdas who inspire Shivajis, Saint Vidyaranya who inspired Harihar bukka

etc...

 

India will arise and no one can stop.. that it is written, it's our destiny.

But make no mistake the rise will be turbulent and very voilent...but by the end

of this century will be what we have always been a " Spiritual, Economic and

Military " Superpower, not to bully anyone but to be a peacful bridge for man to

reach his divinity [God].

 

We are a race is immortal because and only because we connect to the immortal

otherwise like the Romans, Greeks, Egyptians, Mayans and so many other we would

have also vanished....so keep praying....OM OM OM

 

Sri Ram Jai Ram Jai Jai Ram

 

 

 

 

J.SWAMY IRAGAVARAPU <jiragavarapu

 

OMNAMONARAYANAYA

Venerable sadhaks,

God has not created anything or anyone useless. Thorny bushes are